Game Moves

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Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women. The best place to be is when expectations

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00:11 Justin: are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Can't wait! Jake: Welcome to JKN podcast. Longest Running Year Jets Podcast Ever. I'm Jake, and joining me on this sultry Wednesday, I'm actually sweating in my Jets outfit. But anyway, joining me for the 150th time is Justin. How you doing Justin? Thank you. I was actually admiring your Jets outfit. I was looking at you from afar and noticed that you had Jets sneakers on and Jets shirt on today and I wonder oh and a Jets wristwatch as you're now showing me. Yes. How about the underpants? No, no that's game time baby. Are you wearing underpants? I am they're not Jets. They're green though. How about the socks? Nah. They are green. Thanks for that. Alright. This podcast just went super explicit. So, you know, sometimes I just, let's just be clear about the shoes. They're just Nike shoes. They're Nike customs. Right. Actually, we built them at the same time. Yes, we did. I told you about those. Yes. Well, I think you showed me your own... I built mine. I built mine for the US World Cup soccer team in 2006. I built the same... And you built the same time you built these. I built one for myself. The only thing is I put a little thing... You put a little MYJ on it. A little tiny little MYJ. They're green suede, like Jett's color, with the MYJ on it. Yeah. So I kind of thought about shoes and I thought, oh, I'll throw on my jets. It's a polo, which is like a polo with a little tiny little jet. Like what like Tannenbaum would wear. Well, yeah, you're on you're basically in the front office. Yeah, basically. And then I went to the bank and some guy made fun of me at the bank because he's a Giants fan. He's like, how do you think things are going to go this year? And I'm like, yeah. Anyway, so speaking of things we need not talk about, got some news this week, not a ton, but let's just get into smooth. So Jett's sign, let's just go down the list. Jett's, Kendry Guyos, who we talked about last week, you were concerned because he was going to... Was concerned. Right? He's going to serve 45 days starting June 15th. He'll miss a little bit of camp. This is the luckiest man in the universe. Yeah. Who gets to say when they get to go to jail and for how long? Well, because he plea bargain, that's why. So he was like, I'll plea bargain if you give me this amount of days and I get to go at this time. No, it's I want to go as soon as possible. I want to serve. He's serving actually serving. It's like a 90 day sentence, but he only has to do 45 because it was 45 if he does well. So he's got to like... behave. So, someone commented, I thought it was funny, that this is the second year in a row,

03:01 Jake: we're gonna have a training camp where someone comes from out of prison to go to jail. That's where you want guys coming right out of jail. To right to the training camp. Ricky Vaughn style. Yeah, I mean this is 45 days. He's not, this isn't gonna be a thing of shape, this isn't gonna be a thing of mentality, this isn't gonna be a thing of anything. This is It's a nuisance. He's gonna miss like a week per crime. Yeah, per crime. Committed. Now the question is whether the NFL's gonna do anything about it. I think burst defense probably gonna get a fine. Right? Serve time, get a fine. I mean shouldn't the NFL have absolutely... I think we talked about this last week. Yes we did. The NFL should have absolutely nothing to do with this. But... they will right because they're there because he's now a national football player but he did something not as an NFL player so so it's an interesting parallel if you follow the NFL standards he will get punished because they don't care about where you did something and when and who they hurt at the present time right they care about the player fuck that right it's the rules Right. Eh, whatever. So, but I think the good news is, from a Jets fan point of view, this is not going to affect the season. No. This is not a season affecting thing. He probably isn't going to have a huge effect on the season anyway, so... Well, but if he was going to miss games, it would have affected the season. Yeah. Missing a week of training camp. Right? And who's a free agent? Who? Big Howard Green. Oh really? Yeah, we better sign him. I want green. I want him back, too He's just so sexual winning Howard green, right? Yeah He's just awesome. Why don't we sign him for like that? Money well speaking of people we did sign for three dollars, we picked up a free agent local back Didn't we pick up a safety since we last talked to I don't know I didn't say I believe we did Oh, you're right. We picked up Yerama. I ring my bell we did yeah, that's actually good But we have that in the question so that'll come up in the question all right Yeah, we picked up her fullback. Yeah, I'm gonna let you take this one Fui Vaka Vaka Puna Vaka Puna Vaka Vaka not gonna play very much Puna wanna Put you in your Puna. I guess who knows? Okay Well, it's interesting is that the side story in this is he is he was on Cincinnati when they did the hard knocks in Cincinnati So with the Bengals We're not talking about hard knocks anymore. Well, I have one last piece of news. No, they never offered it to the Jets I know wait stop it. Whoa, that that's different news. We've all just turned it down They're saying which means that none of this news is relevant. None of it is correct. Well, no, I have broadcasting standards There are standards I need to follow and We are giving bad information on the air about hard knocks. I don't want to talk about it. I'm gonna say we're getting right Fine, I guarantee it great guarantee it good. Don't name it. They don't get

06:00 Jake: Other news hold on this fullback thing. Yeah, really whatever so so we have another fullback This is a little different last year. We only had one fullback on the roster John Connor Yep, and he didn't play very much. Like he wasn't that involved in the offense. He wasn't on the field for, I would say, maybe 20% of the place he was on the field. I believe, if you look at all the numbers. So clearly this is a shift in philosophy where we're going to need, where the fullback's going to play a role in this offense, blocking whatever it might be, where we need to carry more than one. News flash. We'll be right back. Jets are gonna run this year. Yeah, basically news flash We're gonna run out of the out of the you know, I form or pro form whatever you want to call it There's gonna be two running backs in the backfield news flash We're gonna run a shit ton and we're just gonna put a bunch of bodies up there and run Yeah, John Connor is gonna be knocking people senseless. Yeah, I mean Casey knocks himself Another guy's knock himself. Yes news flash Not huge news, but again, this is not a lot of... You know what's interesting? I think last night was the Dancing with the Stars finale. Oh yes. With Donald Driver. He won, did he? Yeah, he won. So, thanks for telling me that. This morning, when I got to the podcasting studio here in Times Square, he was dancing. Saw him dancing outside. Oh, he was actually for like Good Morning America, whatever they film right outside the studio here Yes, outside of our studio our studio. There's another studio. They set up right in the middle of Times Square We set up the middle Times Square and record for them. It's too loud. It is The he was out there dancing. I was like, oh what's going on out there? And then I looked and I was like, oh That's Donald Driver dancing. There's almost always something going on. Always. When I get here in the morning, it's like loud out there. It's insanity. So I saw Donald Driver dancing this morning live. Speaking of insanity... Go on. Madden 13 will feature T-Bowling. It should. It's a celebration. Like when you score a touchdown with like Ocho Cinco, I'm sure he does like a Riverdance or something stupid. Riverdance. So why not have a little... Is it just T-bo? Is it just T-bo T-boing? Because if it's just T-boing... I mean, you gotta be kind of stupid to play a video game with T-bo as your quarterback. Um... Well, no, but you could play him as your running back. I guess. I mean, what do you do? If you're using the Jets in Madden... I don't know like I don't play Madden enough to know like can you say a lot you yeah You there's got to be ways to like set For this formation. This is my quarterback for this formation Like there's got to be ways to get Tebow into the game I know one is it's a celebration and you'll be able to do it I don't know if you'll go to do it do it on command cuz every time I score at Tebow. Yeah

09:03 Jake: So there's actually some kid who at the college or high school, and I read this news today too, talk about T-bowing, he T-bowed when he picked up his diploma on stage. So he got up on stage, he T-bowed, and they actually kept the diploma away from him. They wouldn't give it to him. which I thought was... which I thought was... funny. It kind of goes back to this whole T-Boat thing. I don't know if you want to really hash it because we got the entire season to talk about it. This is your thing. You threw it on here. Yeah. I don't care. I'm actually just looking forward to Madden 13. It's coming up. It's got, well, I guess it's usually like August. I can't wait to play it at your house. Yes, me too. I can't wait to play it at my house as well. All right, well, that was really the big news. We have a couple of things we're always talking about. which is our Jet Kingdom Fantasy Football League entries. Still haven't come up with exactly. I think we have a couple weeks to do that. I think we're in June. In June we gotta start. But we'll announce it. We gotta collaborate. We'll come up with the actual entry criteria. We'll announce it and then you'll be able to join in. What did we say? There's eight spots. There's seven spots seven spots left. So one of them's filled the person whose idea it was right? That's one that was you too. Oh Steven something. Okay. Yeah. Oh, we got it. I also feel like actually Steven James Peterson I think I also feel like just throwing it out there Matty jets should also if he wants to be in it should be in it because he's been in the jet Kingdom pics like for the last bunch of years and has been a consistent contributor to the show don't you feel that way? No, I think you should have to jump through fire. Everybody should have to jump through fire. There's a few people I could think of that like if they wanted to be in it they should be in it. It's exclusive man, you can't just get into this. You gotta earn your way in. They've like earned their way in over time by being part of the fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know about that. Um, I do have... I could give a whole, I think, uh, nah, I don't wanna do it. Do you have a fuck you for this week? I don't. There hasn't been enough real, like, things going on. Okay. Um, alright, so let's take some tweets and Facebook. Speaking of Matty Jets, at Matty Jets, twitter.com, this is gonna be a fun little exercise. This is gonna be a fun one. We've only got two questions. One, I've already- This could take a while. Well, we have only ten minutes. Okay. So, this is actually a funny question, so I think we'll take some time on it. Who would be, Matty Jets asks, who would be your all superhero football team by position and your all villain team? Wow. if the off season and uh it's the off season I get two boards so first of all all villain obviously tom brady less walker oh you're just giving me that way it was so easy why don't we alternate

12:03 Jake: all right so quarterback let's go let's just go let's just go let's set up a starting lineup offensive lineup first with superheroes I don't know if you know that I was gonna go villain all right go villain well I had it because when I read this I was like oh okay I have the first villain. Okay. And a position for that villain? And a position for that villain. So wide receiver Terrell Owens. Okay. I just thought, okay. Wait, wait, no. You're a super hero. You're picking Ceylon. He's a villain. No. Sorry, Matty Jets. I didn't explain this to you on the metal. It says, who would be your all-super-vol- who would be your all-superhero football team? And your villain team! Right. Superhero villains. conditions. T.O. He's is he a superhero? What are you talking about? All right, I'll start this off. I don't get it What do you mean? I'm supposed to pick the whole cause a quarterback. That's stupid. Sorry, Matty Gents. That's dumb It's cool. I don't think that's I don't get it that way. That's what it is. I don't read it that way superhero So quarterback who would be your if you're bringing the superhero football team. Oh, I don't really read it that way. Yes So superhero for me quarterback gotta be Superman If you're gonna get like who's the number one guy who you want passing whatever it's Superman as my quarterback Oh, I would say Captain America cuz he's a good born leader choice a leader on the villain I don't know if this is really superhero, but kind of fits in the genre on the villain head coach Darth Vader I guess I'm a villain right there you go. I don't like this. I was gonna pick players who were like Yeah, well like like all-time team. I guess I'm wrong. Yeah, you're dead wrong I don't really I'm not that geeky like I don't know that many. That's what I thought I didn't think you'd be able to play this game I can't enough like you'd want an offensive lineman like juggernaut Okay, I want like the whole like a what position with the whole play Like I know like- Running back, right? I- Full back? Tight end? I don't know. I mean I only know like the Avengers cause I just saw the movie. Yes, I saw. Come on, really? Well like your wide receiver you'd want to be able to fly. So who flies? Well, a lot of people fly. So like you'd probably want like Superman as your wide receiver or maybe Iron Man cause he could like fly and like- There you go. Now you're getting into it. I go fast. That's right. right? That's right, Thor. Like, what would be a good position for Thor? That'd be a good one. Thor would be like a middle linebacker, I feel. Oh yes, good defense. See, there you go. That's the fun of it. Is that the idea? That was the idea. What would Spider-Man do? He's a cornerback. Corner. See? He could just put people in a web. Right, and you can get this. I'm good at this. Goodness for someone who didn't know how to play this at all. I, yeah, I guess I really didn't get the idea behind this. Yeah. And I also don't know that, like Batman is, I know Batman. Yeah, Batman. What can you do? I don't know. He doesn't really fit. Hmm. He's got like a lot of toys and stuff. Yeah, that's a good one. Safety. Not really tight end. He's strong, physically fit, fast,

15:07 Jake: but he's not also like super fast. But he also can't take the Batmobile out onto the field. No. Because that's where all his stuff is. It's in the gadgets. You can take your gadgets. Can I pick Inspector Gadget to sneak out? No. No. No. I'm just trying to think like Wolverine. Go to the X-Men. There we go. Go to X-Men. Professor X, head coach. Sure. That's a good one. Makes obvious sense. Is Magneto the head coach of the villain team? I kind of like the art theater, but yeah, Magneto's pretty good there too. God, there's so much. There's so many big ones, but they just wouldn't play football because they're too big. like the Phoenix, I mean, talk about all powerful, or something like Jean Grey, who could read your mind. I'd want her as like offensive coordinator. Deep into coordinator. Both. She's both coordinators. She could read the other people's minds. And then tell them what to do. Tell them, right, you don't even need headsets. No headsets allowed on the supervillains. Ha ha. So anyway, that was fun. Aw. I'm a little upset about that. Because you wanted to put, but you didn't make any sense. I wanted to put T.O. as my villain. Fine. All right. Do it your way. Make an all-villain team. T.O. There you go. It's done. Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis. Randy Moss. Justin: Yeah. Jake: So that's a good team. That's not superheroes. They're villains. Reading comprehension. Those are villains. Do they not teach that in broadcasting school? No. We don't need to read. No. Not even a prompter? I don't read the prompter. You just talked from the heart. He will say anything on the prompter. You're doing Anchorman 2 is coming out. I can't wait. Alright, so we got one other question from the from the... Were you just speaking of movies? Were you... was it Battleship that we saw the preview for Ted? Yes. I then went home and you went on YouTube and looked... for the preview to show my lady friend and we found the explicit version. Oh shit. Is it funny? Go watch that. It's hysterical. Yeah. Like the cursing is unreal. Yeah. It's just great. Yeah. Do that at home. That would be funny. Stop listening to this. Go search on YouTube for tag explicit. After we're done, go listen. Just do it now. You've already downloaded it. All right. That's true. Just download it again. Download it again and then go. Alright. So we have one other question and we have a question and an answer. Oh. I like when I don't have to even think there's already an answer. So Stephen asks... Go on, Stephen. ...from Facebook. He is the person who suggested we do the fantasy league, by the way. He's in. What does Sarah think of the Jets trading... No stealing safety Jeremiah Bell will Bell get back to the Pro Bowl forum with the improved and clearly superior Jets defense Can we convert some of these dolphin fans to South Florida Florida is more jet green color the Miami home game Lots of questions there lots of questions. We didn't feel well, let's talk about your steel. You're my belt

18:00 Jake: Let's talk about your my bell. Let's just say that we didn't steal him cuz he was still a free agent right well past the frenzy So anyone could have signed the Yeramaiabelle. And you've opened a lot of places, right? I think... So what do you think about the signing? Good insurance policy. But if you're going to tell me that our starting safety tandem is Yeramaiabelle and Laurent Landry, I'm not pleased. I'm pleased from a run-stopping possession. Yeah, they can't cover both of them That's why we have these two young rookies. We just signed I still feel like Jeremiah Bell was brought in because they're worried that La Ron Landry is not gonna be able to play a full season let alone week one So I mean he's not at any of these activities these OTAs, right? That's you know just bring in a veteran presence and at first glance when I heard this I said, oh that means Jimmy won't be back but I've actually rethought that and I Actually think Leonard still has a chance of being back on the team Again, unless someone else picks him up, but I have not heard Anything about Leonard. I've heard him going to visit people. I've heard him really not. He's probably still not ready to do anything I just don't think that they're stacking their boat for safety because they don't think that he can be back and he is back Well great, then I'm sure they'll be a spot for him. But if you think about like Jeremiah Bell and Derek Smith Jeremiah Bell and the Ron Landry. Ron Landry Eric Smith none of those guys strike me as good cover like we know where we've seen Eric Smith can't cover right? So we know that he's not fast either. What's the last cover safety we've had? This is the problem. We don't and this is why tight ends best tight ends cream us name the best top three cover Safeties in the league every Troy Palomolo It's a cliff after that. It's a cliff. I wouldn't say it's a cliff. Seattle's got a couple of good ones out there. There's guys. Good job. Good job naming the two most famous safeties ever. Not ever. Pretty much. Hall of Famers. Sure. Instant Hall of Famers. But they can cover. Yeah. I know. But that's like a rarity. I think it's a rarity to have a safety that can cover. That's why you have corners. first. I just think it's a very rare thing. Yeah, but the tight ends kill the Jets. And there's a reason. The tight ends killed everybody last year. Gronkowski had the most unbelievable... Not just against the Jets, against everybody, because... But bad tight ends kill us. Well, that's the other problem, but yes. Like, alright, fine. We play Gronkowski and Hernandez twice a year, and you have to plan for that. But bad tight ends beat the Jets, too. Like not just good ones, average ones beat the Jets constantly. I just don't feel like a true cover safety exists. Don't you feel like Kyle Wilson could be a good safety? Maybe. I don't know. I feel like they're wasting him as like a nickel corner.

21:02 Jake: I know he's on the field a lot. Right. I feel like he could be a good safety. I just feel like he could do that. I feel like here's the thing. We've got safeties. There's a lot. We've got two rookies, and I've got two vets, and we've got another that we... So there's... Well, three vets. Well, three vets, but... Two rooks. There's enough in there. Those rooks are gonna be playing special teams, really. Yeah, but there's enough in there. I think there's enough. You never know when those sixth round safeties, that's, you know, they pop. I like the signing. I like the signing. It's actually someone I heard he was on the market, and they were actually talking about, I was like... Now he's 34. Yeah, he's old, but he's still like you know, well he knows the division so that's yeah He knows the competition So anyway, the question was was sent towards my wife Sarah, right? Who's a dolphin fan right who I think and I'm predicting right now is gonna be the bottom dollar of the AFC's awesome here We love that. So then I sent the question off to my wife and said could you answer she's done this now and again She's not a fan of the podcast. You know, it's all about Jets But, whatever. So she says, you can tell him. And then she goes in the third... She can focus on second worst fantasy. That's an uptick from her dolphin. She's a good pick. She's a good first round pick. For last year? Well, no. Well, because she finished so low, she has a good pick. And she keeps her number one, which she probably won't. She shouldn't. Anyway. She has Adrian Peterson. She picked it. She picked number one last year still came in the bottom and then yeah has AP that She keeps and she loses that that round So I think she'll give up AP because you could pick them at number two if you wanted them again That'll be a smart move on her not number two Well, no to not keep them and then if you want it if you want it if you really care to have them You could probably pick right if you'd like Then she says the worst loss ever though was West Walker to the Pats This is a tough one. It's not a tough one at the time, it's only in what he has become. And again, I don't think if West Walker were on the Dolphins, he would be, I don't think he's on the Jets. There was something about- There was, he wasn't traded for a sixth rounder. Like he was traded for a second round pick, which means someone knew he was gonna be good. Like the Jets traded for homes for a fourth round pick. So like a second round pick. is substantial. Like the patch traded for Randy Moss for a fifth round pick or a fourth round pick. So like to trade a second round pick for a guy, you got TiVo for a four. Well, that's why you traded second round pick for a player. That's significant. So you know you're giving up something decent and you know you're getting something decent. I don't know why the Dolphins would trade in the division to the Pats. a player like that who had some significant upside but dolphins have not been able to recover from their sort of woes and I

24:05 Jake: Don't think this year they were dolphins haven't been able to recover since damn Reno. Well, that's what I'm saying Oh And there's other questions in there will Bell so make a prediction will Bell be a pro ball safety this year not a chance Will Landry be a pro ball safety this year? No, I don't think of playing up games You really don't think it's gonna make it this is not at all Okay, well why would why why should I think he is right? He's had this Achilles injury. He had it like two years ago Decided he did not want to have surgery against what everyone told him rehabbed it Reinjured right again have the surgery Nope, gonna rehab it. So what do you think's gonna happen? It's gonna be injured. That's right You can fix it or you can put a band-aid on it. He chooses a band-aid Can we convert some of these dollar fans to South Florida to more jet green color? No. No, we don't want no we don't want them and But interesting enough I am that is one of the games on my plate this year Hey, you always go to that one. Yeah last year kind of had a family illness. I couldn't go we had tickets we had side-blowing tickets I had like I are going on the field I was going on the field again sort of a big thing whatever but anyway so yeah we're going down that game that actually I'm that's early in the season I don't like dolphin games early season cuz it was no fucking hot down there want that in December you get a little vacation you get out of the cold you go down you go to a game in shorts in December it's awesome right Well, we're going to go down to the Titans game. We are. So don't know what the weather will be like in December and Tennessee. It'll be warmer down there. It's usually 55 in New York, so it'll be 65 in Tennessee. Yeah, it should be nice. All right, well, that wraps it up for this week. We'll probably be back next week. If there's news to talk about, we'll talk about it. Go to jettkingham.com if you want to see all the news and podcasts and whatever. Twitter.com slash justjetkingdom for Mr. Justin here. I'm at Twitter.com slash jetkingdom We're at Facebook.com slash jetkingdom, which is where we post on there and Google and everywhere else We post that we're gonna do a podcast so you can send in your questions there It's on iTunes, of course, subscribe on iTunes. We love it Leave us reviews there. We'd love some more reviews on iTunes. It's great But until next week, and as always, go Jets. you