On To London

September 30, 2015 · 31:15 · Reviewing the loss to the Eagles, Week 4 picks and Throne Picks for all AFC East games, Keys to the Castle in beating the Dolphins in London.
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00:20 Jake: Welcome to Jet Kingdom podcast, the longest running year just podcast ever. I'm Jake joining me. 247 times in a row From the island of cranky pants Justin Justin cranky McCrankster Great cranky one. I was pretty fucking cranky during that game. I rewatch the game today You rewatch the whole game today. I rewatch the 45 minute condensed version Every play every single play every single play. Yeah, I have some I have a still lost You know what? No, actually we watched it. They won. They want. Yeah, that's really cool All right. So let's worry we got an agenda We got a little quickie quickie quickie podcast cuz we are off to London this week So we're trying to get through a bunch stuff. So we're gonna talk with a Jets vs. Eagle. We talked about that We'll do the JK ping don't Jake JK pink We'll do our throne picks and we'll get the fuck out, tell how we're gonna beat the shit out of those dolphin fans. Not dolphin fans, we don't do that, that's not nice. Alright, so let's start with the Jess versus Eagles game. Just two days ago, voice is still hurting from screaming. What do you thoughts? Disappointing It was disappointing that we got off to such a really poor start to the game That sproles pump return really really killed In the in the second quarter there because otherwise nobody was doing anything. It was like three nothing and it was like whatever It's not like you know Sam Bradford did anything in this game. He didn't do shit. And I think in the second half, they had like 60 yards and three first downs in the entire second half. Yeah, he was 14 for 2818 yards and one touchdown. That's pretty much nothing. Matthews and Sproles did run on us. Yeah, that's unfortunate that Ryan Matthews was able to run on us after watching them not be able to run for two whole weeks. With Demarco Murray, who's supposed to be the better player. So a little disappointing. There was a couple of bad tendencies that I saw. We got beat on the same play like three times. Wheel route! Yeah, that wheel route. And they dropped it like three times. One time, I think they caught it. and went for a decent gain and the other times they just dropped it and it was like, oh okay, thank you. But other than that, they didn't, to me they didn't do shit. We saw,
03:00 Jake: you know, the real Ryan Fitzpatrick stood up. He said, you're gonna ask me to throw the ball 58 times, I'm gonna throw three picks. And, you know, it's going to be the situation because I'm basically, you know, a an above average backup, but a below average starting quarterback. And that's what we saw. We saw the, you know, the career. 20 games under 500 as a starter 16 on six in six different years quarterback and What was disappointing was that we put him in this bad position by having such a? shitbag start with the With the punt return for a touchdown which sucks the bullshit wheel route touchdown that sucks and You know turnovers to give them the ball In short, you know short drives basically just letting them drive the ball No, not making them go 80 90 yards, which we should have been making them do and we didn't really make them do that But I could because they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have been able to Beyond the first quarter and I was disappointed and I thought we made a valiant comeback Uh, we, we, we never quit. We tried. We did not give up any points in the second half scored, uh, you know, a touchdown at the end of the first half to at least go in with some points, scored another touchdown and I thought at 24, 14 with nine minutes left, I was like. We're in this game. We caused a turnover. We got the ball back and I was like, we are rocking. The stadium was rocking. And I thought, here we come. And you know what Ryan Fitzpatrick did? He did what we hate about Gino and what we hated about Sanchez was he didn't not lose the game. He lost the game, which is a goddamn shame that he had to throw three picks. Yeah. So I went back and I watched the game again and I actually saw all three picks again. Again, I saw them from the seats, but you know, it's a different perspective. More beer in the seats this time I was watching just on my iPad. You know, they weren't actually bad picks. Like, they were picks and he turned the ball over and we had four turnovers in the game. Every stupid football announcer on the planet, every stupid broadcaster will say, well, if you don't win the turnover battle, like four to one, we're going to lose. And yet we had the chance to win. They weren't terrible. A batted ball is a batted ball. It just gets knocked in the air and someone grabs it. The one-two, Smith. I feel like that's a, it's between him and Smith. These guys who haven't been, like, and played a game, they probably practice together for maybe a week, like, and Smith is a rookie, and they just are not on the same page. He under-threw it, and Smith wasn't there, and actually Smith didn't really kind of fight. Like, I watched the play, and he didn't,
06:00 Jake: he almost could've knocked it out. He just was not, you know, if this Brandon Marshall guy would've caught it and Brandon would've pulled it away from him or tackled him. And then I forgot what the third one was. They weren't. Well, Brandon Marshall was the third one. He just let a ball go through his hands. No, he tipped it. He popped it up. Yeah, it just went through his hands. So there you go. That's a bad pick on Marshall. On Marshall. But the bad one really was when it's 24-14 and you just got a turnover and the crowd is going nuts. Oh yeah. Two plays later you turn it over. I totally agree. You have to be more aware you can't let that happen. But I'll tell you, since I'm an expert in Geno Smith picks, that would have happened anyway. More heartbreaking perhaps. They wouldn't work there. They weren't first of all you thought you make Geno Smith He couldn't he wouldn't be doing 58 attempts. If he did he'd have 17 interceptions Like, if you look at like how many he attempts. Justin: Yeah, I don't want to really compare them. Jake: No, no, no, but what I'm saying is the picks were bad, but they weren't, they weren't that just god-awful, throw it down the middle of the field. There's nobody there but some safety who's just like, thank you, mama. Like, it was tips and things. Justin: But the turnover, the timing of the... Jake: The bad timing of the 24-14. But you're playing at your trying, like you're, you know. I mean, we had the ball. But we had the ball. We run. Here's my sort of... my big thing on this they lost by by seven points yeah lost by a touchdown right yes we meet 15 chances to have that touchdown we we were down 24 nothing we scored a touchdown I thought they should have went for two immediately right didn't 24 seven Fine. That's one point we leave on the board. Potentially. Potentially. We weren't running the ball. The first of Ryan Fitzpatrick's interceptions came, I believe, on third down and we were on the 30. Yep. That's three more points that he gave away. That would be four total points. Give me a moment. All right. And then the pick that he threw that went through Marshall's we were infield goal range there as well. That's another three points. That's seven. That's a tie game. I agree. But so is the Brandon Marshall first. The first turnover was Brandon Marshall's the worst play in the history of the NFL. But when you throw picks, when you are in scoring, you're in the scoring zone. Right. You've got three points on the board. You've got three points on the board and you're giving the ball away. Okay. He took six points off the board. This team, so again, if some stat line. I'm Fitzpatrick is 35 for 50, 283 yards, two touchdowns and three picks. You're saying they lost the game. That's not this team. What was disappointing was we couldn't run the ball. No running game. We couldn't have any turnovers. I'm active.
09:06 Jake: I think... I think that's it for now. I'll see you next time. Bye! Right. Yeah, but they scored 24 points so there's five. I'm almost a pun so that you know, what was a pun? They were short fields because of the interceptions One of them was a short field Yeah, I mean whatever they were big putt touchdowns were blown like they were well as the pun Yeah. And the other was the touchdown. There's three touchdowns though. Yeah. It's 24. 24. I understand. One was the punt return, which is a big play. So that was two more. The other was the missed blown coverage to Ryan Matthews. Right. And that's it. The other one was a one yard touchdown run. I don't think there's like a big play there. Yeah. No, because he did. the me , 10 catches for 109 and a touch but I know that Iing that fumble was really stupid. So in the swing of the game that was a dry 30 at that point and there was no reason for it. It was the first big play that we have the whole game. And then in the second first down. Like you have something first. Like big actual. I'm like, I want that guy in the field. He's a playmaker. He's doing stuff that I really impressed with. He also returned punts better than we've seen him. Exactly. So two things I. I liked about Curlick. Depressed. Bulls in the play, he's now 0 for 3. And I kind of defended him last week. And I was like, oh, you know, that was not a bad one. Or maybe he's 0 for 4. I was like, oh, that wasn't a bad one.
12:06 Jake: The two this time were... Davis got burned and he had that terrible penalty. There was no bullshit penalty. There was one big penalty when we were driving. He had a couple. I'm going to go over the stats, but he had a couple big penalties. Any of that just bad play You know who's amazing? Put I watched it again. He's just like, unbelievable. David Harris, very good player. Anybody else you want to throw in there? Well fits, I mean that was depressing to sort of see the real fits and I'm hoping that I'm hoping that in Miami or in London in Miami I mean he did you know you're sitting there You're like you know throw the ball down the field and every time he did nothing good happened I think ever I think there was one big play that he caught it and nothing down the sideline Just man to man down the field worked. Because there's a lot to Smith. It was like this rookie. It was all to Smith. He had nine targets, which is a lot for a guy playing his first game. I just, yeah, the whole game plan just seemed kind of off. And I think we got blown out of it. And we didn't think we'd beat a 24-0. Yeah, that's a tough spot to be in. But we fought back valiantly. I'm going to do it. playing him short and just bumping him a linebacker, just hitting him in the first five yards to like throw everything off. And the problem with not having Decker on the field is you can do that. When you have Decker on the field, and Decker's in the middle, then Decker's just open. So you take this linebacker. Why is his mind really just open? Because he's not Decker. Decker's like six foot four, big guy over the middle, much more talented. And Jeremy Curly's like a little, you know, a little slot receiver. He's not that good. Right. And a lot and a little too many drops from the from the, you know, receiving core. Yeah, I just kept seeing drop after drop after drop. And I was like, oh, I mean, some great catches. But it's like Marshall is the catcher and everybody else. And Curly just had he had a great game. He had one bad drop. But other than that, I mean, he made an incredible catch. Again, if not just landing the right way, I'd be on to highlight films all week long. I'd be like, look at that catch. Marshall had an amazing catch on the side. He turns around, comes back, drops his legs.
15:01 Jake: I mean, it was just like, no, I just he can't do stuff that's like trying to press it. I'm still on Team Marshall. Just whatever. Team Marshall all the way. All the way. Let's get to our picks. Let's do picks. So I think you almost caught up or did you catch up? We're only like one game apart. It's not like... No, no, well, then you catch up. I did a great eight burger. You got a nine burger, so then I think you are caught up. We're all caught up. All caught up. All right, let's do it. Hold on. Let's pick all the games except for the AFC East. Yes, and we're going to do them in the rapidest of rapid fashion. I'm actually going to pick them as we are at 24-23. Who's leading? Hey Lex is now in the first and I'll buy over that you know colleges and the rocks did you know colleges? Yeah Justin: Awesome name. Oh, is that the no hold till That's the best Jake: I was really really really good. All right, let's go. Okay. I'm ready. We're really have to pound through Alright, so I'm doing this for you. He's got to leave kids. Well, I can I can I still like 10-15 minutes. Alright, so Let's start on Thursday night Baltimore Pittsburgh No, Ben Ben Baltimore. Oh and three need it No, big Ben in Pittsburgh Baltimore favorite two and a half. Give me the favorite Michael big Give me give me Baltimore. Hey, that's gonna be ugly Skipity skips skip that one. Alright Atlanta the 3 and 0 Atlanta Falcons are hosting Houston giving six and a half. I'll take Atlanta Atlanta and Julio Okay, Oakland goes to Chicago. I think still Jimmy Clausen Oakland can play some offense Give me Oakland giving two and a half Absolutely Chicago got shut out last week ten puns. Pun, pun, pun, pun, pun, pun. Gimme Oakland. I mean they did play Seattle but still. Alright, Cincinnati, Kansas City, no line cause Kansas City just played last night. Since, I'm just gonna pick Cincy. They were lost by a touchdown. But they were getting destroyed and then kinda like came back. Remember I think Kansas is halfway decent. I just think Cincinnati's it's better better. Well, they're better than a regular season. Uh Give me a cincy for now until I find a line. I have the same pick indie is hosting Jacksonville. It's eight It's a lot. It's a division. Game indeed doesn't often I never showed anyone out They really like put it to somebody so I'm gonna Put I just I just watched you know just get destroyed by the Patriots will do that to you give me a knee alright By the way, I picked all right, so that's my whole strategy this week I'm Carolina so it works out for you Carolina is going to Tampa and they're favored by three I, three What'd you do? I said I'm picking Carolina but I wish it was more because I feel like it was like five I'd go for Tampa but three's too little. Philly's going to Washington and they're favored by three I'll take Philly.
18:01 Jake: I'm a little nervous about that but I, prospective way Philly shut our running game down I feel like they're gonna be able to do that to Washington too and then they're I'll take Denver. Arizona, who looks like the best human on the planet, is 6.5 favorite over St I'll take Arizona. I'm not disagreeing with you. You're just with me on all the favorites then. I don't know. I've got a couple in here. I've got Washington and the other ones we haven't talked about. San Francisco is hosting Green Bay This line is off, I'm picking you guys. Yeah, I've got to move this to San Francisco's in the favorite Column, there's no line yet. Oh, you should pick them pick them their favorite I and I um we will not by the way there's just football all day it would be fun like we're going to London and we have no time to talk about it. I guess we'll talk about when we come back. But it would actually be fun to be here because we would get football from nine in the morning. Oh, we'll have it later on in the year. The Bills are playing at 9.30. So I'll like wanna get up and watch that game. Oh yeah, yeah. And it's only on, I don't think it's on TV. Really? Yeah, it's only on the internet nationally. I don't know why I have the internet. I think, anyway. All right, go. This one's national, I think, the Jet Game. So anyway, New Orleans is hosting Dallas. There's no line. Off, there's a breeze. Please. I guess I think Breeze is playing and I like New Orleans. Uh, agreed and... Seattle's favored by 9 and a half. Too much. And we get to Detroit, give me Seattle. Too much, too much, too much, too much. Let's get to the AFCs, it's only two games because two of us are playing each other and the Pats are off. Pats are off. So let's start with... You know Pats, how'd we do last week? I went 1 and 2, you went 2 and 1. I went 2 and 1. You were leading by 1. Basically dominating you. So... Buffalo is going to play at MetLife. Raps' return. You screwed that up. I don't think I did. Hold on. Let me go. Let me go see. Alright, I'll just cough into the mic. Cough into the mic. That's what people like about you. You don't really care. You like that I... Yeah. It's at Buffalo. Very professional. It's at Buffalo. Even better. Score doesn't change. I got the Bills. winning this game 28 it's two and a half line nope that's the other one more two and a half 28 13 Buffalo Terrod Taylor too much for the G-men Oh I asked Ryan
21:00 Jake: my Rex Ryan R I too much Who just got demolished but I feel like the like giant no where of a and game than the dolphins do. They have one player, they back them. And when Randall decides to show up, I guess if there's no corner on the other side, I just have a feeling that sexy rexy. like a little like a little axe to grind with these with these giants. Why? This carry bowl. Yeah, he's carrying that ovaries, like I didn't get to win my Snoopy bowl this year. I'm gonna win it in the regular season. I like I like so now you switch this whole thing on me. Yeah, yeah I did so I got bills winning 28. 13. I will take I'm going to keep it close. I'm throwing my safety score game of the biggest thing you can think of. Let's do the rest of the polecast with a British accent. I'm not a try. It's just pathetic. Well, when do we get back? We have to do the whole podcast. When we get back, I already have it picked up. So. I'll be good. She is I will yes cheerio So we're in jets at Miami in Whimbley. This is the best thing ever I love that one of Miami's although we we do play well Miami So this might help Miami we do play very yes, yes, we do Go, it's kind of 35 Justin: Don't worry G, it's cool It's Miami dude Jake: Just fly in the back just fall asleep Put them on the just do the VA Baracus. No, you hit you over the head. You put him on the plane. You wake him up like dude. You're in Miami. You're in Miami. Miami, Miami It goes a perfect game. Justin: Where are the palm trees? Jake: Oh, they cut them down. Well, by the way, the Miami stadium has been redone. It's got all this construction going on. I couldn't recognize it on TV. And I looked, and they're doing all this cool stuff. They're putting a huge over thing over it. Oh, to cover the fans. Yeah, they're doing it from the rain. Well, from the heat. No, from the heat. It's not the rain. It's the heat. So we're going to-. So You and I are actually going to London. It's super awesome. We're gonna watch the game Yes, we are sitting together, but we are happy to have four tickets I have four tickets and neither of us, but I do have that are actually together
24:02 Jake: No, I have two I've there. They're not together twos and twos. I have twos and twos you I don't know if I want to sit with you at the game. I think you have a better seat. Oh, right, because my wife's going. Your wife's going. Yeah, we're not sitting with you. And I kind of have a thing where I don't like to sit with you in your life during a jet-son-off game. But that's why I'm not gonna sit with her because she's gonna be at the other two. Yeah, that's a good move. Yeah. Just sit by yourself. Oh, I'm gonna... Well, if we're going with two other people, so I'm just gonna split them up and I'll sit with them. Yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. You don't want to sit with her. No, no good can happen. No, me sitting with my wife at a Jets dolphin game. I've seen it. She's going to be in full dolphin's gear. I'm going to be in full jet skier. What do you think the weather is going to be like? Don't really care. Just wondering what your thoughts are. Probably we really have like six seconds to finish this podcast and you're talking about, you know, yeah, like five minutes. Um, so give me, so give me your, like, how do we beat? Who are the Miami Dolphins and how do we beat them? I don't know who the dolphins are I feel like they have no running game and I feel like if you can just Make it so that they have no running game like give them no glimmer of hope with that run Yeah, just shut that down right from this start and make Ryan Tannehill sort of beat you I Watched what the Bills did to him and they just blitzed After blitz after blitz and they just came from everywhere right and you know what we know was that we can and Tannehill was just like Oh fuck where do I throw it and it was it was not a good situation So if you just don't let them Don't let them try., and and Yeah he did We'll get the thing. Oh fuck. Yeah, I saw him throw two of them. Oh, you know what's not in this. It's not in this You're right. Sorry. It wasn't an oh three. Yeah, I was watching Justin: They had they had this box but without the internet. I don't know was a big six so Jake: 26 or 49 you just gotta make him beat ya cuz I don't think he's got He doesn't have the horses on the outside to beat our guys. Right. Which, by the way, Reavis didn't finish the game. No, he has a hamstring. So who are we on the injury list now? We got Ivory, Ivory, who I think is good to go. I think they did that precautionary. We saw him on the thing. It was probably a bad decision. and now looking back. I don't know who they would have activated that would have made it any different. I think that would be good. If he was questionable last week, like that girl will be fine. He's good to give us. I'm sure we'll play. Yeah. Alyssa, I don't think is playing. And was played. So I think right. Darren Walls actually played. So. Oh, no, we lost. Colón is out. He's out. Yeah, so you got Brian Winters and you know what I don't think that's a good swap That's not a good swap. I mean they've kept they have in Dom again Sue's gonna line up across from Winters and be like hey motherfucker. I'm gonna run you over. He has not really done very well He's not been a great Brian Winters. Yeah
27:01 Jake: Breakout came for in Dom. Oh Interesting. So what's the what's the keys the castle? Just said you gotta you gotta give them no just choke them on on the run game No Lamar Miller running none of that bullshit. Just hold that to a very bare minimum and I think you're in good shape to make Tana Hill try and beat you secondly. We just went up against a very similar offense right like the guy came from chip kelly who's running this offense so you just had a week to play against it you know they're gonna try that we'll r i don't we do that play we don't have a we don't have their inspo's that will mark millard can do that so be ready for action and i'm. And and win the turnover battle again, it seems to be like you know Bulls came out and says like they beat us at our game. Right? That's our game. with our game plan, prospective we are going to win that turnover battle So we'll see I got us winning big 31 13 Wow similar score. Yeah, the key is winning big Going back to the first two That's the key of the castle, having two of your four or three big players back. There's a difference between Blau Powell running up the middle and fucking Chris Ivory, who just destroys you. And even just showing for the first three quarters is the fourth quarter where you're like, Oh fuck, here he comes again. And he just bowls over you and runs for a touchdown. So, um, I would like also the other key to the castle is not to get to where we have to play catch-up. Because this is not a catch-up. This is a get to 10 to 3, you know, 21 to 21 to 21. This is not down by 24. We just don't have the game. We don't have the throw. again and again and again. And we're never getting the
30:08 Jake: And note to Gareth where are the goddamn checking the fantasy league. League updates seriously What the fuck Yeah, you've already dropped your mic seriously I they have to be every goddamn week But I'm two and one and I'm coming for you sick of I'm fantasy league people who have guys like TJ Graham in their lineup and are beating me That's bullshit. No, it's bullshit all you fuckers get a real jet or you're out. So says someone who can't control you being out. We'll see you next week. J Jesten, Jesten, Jesten, Jesten, Jesten, J Let's go Jest.
