The One After The One We Lost
December 19, 2014 · 51:43 · Our last attempt was lost when the computer shut off 50 minutes in. So, take two: the loss, the draft and Rex Ryan.
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Opening
Onan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they'll hear the lamentation of their women.
Transcript
Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=1 @ 33.4s → Jake; other-primary cluster=0 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Jason-ref Jake cluster 1 sim=0.73.
00:09 Justin: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Jake: Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Welcome to Jet Kingdom Podcasts, the longest running New York Jets podcast ever. Fire it, Zane. I'm Jake, and joining me for the podcast that we didn't lose... Justin for 447 billion times in a row just now you doing I am doing really well as a jet fan you're doing well Justin: No as a jet fan. I'm not doing well at all as a human Jake: Doing okay Justin: Okay, yes a human being you know Jake: Okay, speaking of being human, where is this podcast that you have put together? Well, you can't find it folder. Justin: I don't know. Dipshit. I don't think I did. All right, I did. Oh, there it is. Episode number 235. Dipshit. Jake: for today. Yes it is. Alright well we have an agenda now that Justin has actually put it into it. So by the way we had this whole podcast last time. Oh man. We were far far along the way. We're 50 minutes into our last podcast. We were just getting done with the pics and Jake's computer took a shit. It took a shit. It took a shit. And it just. My computer took a shit. Fried. Well, it didn't fry, it just shut off. It was like, later bitches. Justin: Sorry, you just wasted 50 minutes. Yep. And then we were just tired and we said, should we do a 10 minute podcast just for the people? And it was like, a 10 minute pad cast? And I was like, let's do a 10 minute pad. And you were like, fuck you bitches. Fuck those bitches. Right. Fuck the people. Fuck the people. You know... I am the people's broadcaster. No, you're a part of the media empire of shitness. Jake: I am about people. You are a padcaster. Oh, I like that clearly. Justin: Jetman was right about you. All right, what's our agenda? Jake: Let's talk about Jets versus Tennessee. We're not going to talk about the game that we then was before that that we haven't talked about. Right. The Minnesota game. We talked about it. We really did. Yeah, so we actually talked about it. Justin: Oh, we had so many good points. Jake: Yeah, I remember when I said that really important thing. Yeah, that like I broke it all down and I figured how to fix the team. Yeah. And how we're all going to be great next year. How we can guarantee Super Bowl success next year. Do you remember when I picked Tennessee and the jet that the Jets would be Tennessee 16 to 11?
03:02 Jake: Do you do you remember how I said that said that won this game? Fucking pissed off. Do you remember when I said it was gonna be 16 and 1611? Justin: Do you remember that? No. Oh anyway, cuz you already died and said we didn't get to that part of the category You know that that was the first time in the history of the NFL that that was a final score Jake: Didn't I have some crazy score? Oh Yeah, I picked 10 to 18 and I remember you saying to me how does someone get to 18 and whatever And I was like and then when I remember when we had this crazy score is like see it can happen Justin: Yeah, but it didn't know whatever I was so you got the Jets and Titans We'll talk about it. We got a night. We got tonight somebody gets a little news Fantasy still going strong not for all of us not for all of us now for you certainly I'm yeah pick um thrown picks of the AC East, but we're gonna do this all very quickly talk about the Patriots The last Rex Ryan vs. Bill Belichick, Jets Patriots game in all likelihood. Jake: Although let's look into the news today or whatever. They don't know shit. They don't know shit. Alright, then we'll talk about that. So let's talk about Jets vs. Tennessee. Alright, I gotta pull up this game because honestly I don't even have a chance. I, on the other hand, want you to talk about it. Did we win? Justin: We won 16-11, the first time that that score has ever been the final score. of a professional NFL football game. Now I will say I didn't watch this game. Jake: By the way, the amount of games you have not watched this season is too damn high. I've missed all of what? This game and what other one? Some other game that you couldn't watch. You made another game I missed. Oh, the game you were on when you were at the bachelor party weekend and a game you were at the wedding. What bachelor party? The wedding game. I watched that game. No, you did not. It was against the lines and I watched the whole fucking game. No, you didn't. You had to do the wedding. I was at the wedding and I watched the game. Listen. Justin: Don't fuck with me. Why are you fucking with me? You suck. You're a dick. Anyway, you watched this game. You probably couldn't even tell us what happened. Oh, I know what happens. Jake: They played. Yeah, good job. And things happened. No, this was just, this game was frustrating because I was sitting there watching this and I don't want the jazz to win. And I'm sitting there watching this game and I'm like, please, every time they did something good, I was like, don't you guys get it? This is not, and then they'd fumble. Yeah, you see that's When Decker caught that ball and went in for the touchdown, and I'm like, no, Deck Deck, that's not the way to do this. You gotta fumble that shit. Oh yeah, he stepped out of bounds. I'm like, yeah, he stepped out of bounds. Oh, but then they come back anyway. It was painful to watch because I don't want them to win. We went from having the second pick in the draft
06:00 Jake: to like the six. Like that's a like we're in the category of like game changer to like suck chest no yes Now if you pick wisely Sixth is like not a bad. Yeah, but well, but who's gonna be picking suck chest We played against how many Bayas 10 touchdowns and nine interceptions right fucking awesome. He's terrible. He's so good Justin: He's terrible know a thing about anything fucking terrible. You know who's terrible Charlie Whitehurst Jake: His hair is awesome, but he's terrible for so there was I mean in my own mind There was rumor that I mean lockers done in Tennessee and this was like gonna be his like Oh have a couple games. Maybe you show people a good Well he can't stay healthy. Never. That guy is like... he can't stay healthy at all. Um... So what's the interesting news that come of this game? We won. We won. That's not interesting. Justin: They lost... they lost again to Jacksonville last night. They got it right. Jake: They know how to do this. They're gonna be picking number two. Because they're not gonna have Whitehurst and Locker on their team. They're gonna have some fucking stud on their team next year. It's gonna be Zachary Mettenberger. So Eric Decker, 100 yards, 100 yard game. Woohoo! How about that? Throwing a ball down the field a little bit. Amaro caught a ball. Really? What other shit do you want to say? John Connor scores a touchdown. That's pretty awesome. The Terminator. Um, this is just two terrible teams. It's like meeting in a pillow fight. Like, who cares? Oh, I know. The big story was the swapping of the running backs. Sean Green and... Fucking Chris Johnson swapping teams. Two shit dicks. I don't want either one of them on my team. Leon is also on Tennessee. Oh yeah, I have three. Yeah, so it's a swapping of lots of running backs. A lot of guys. Leon almost busted one, but he also coughed it up. I was like, Leon knows how to do this. You cough up that ball, you let someone else have the ball. I mean, what is there to say? Justin: I don't know, I didn't really watch the game. I watched the first quarter. So I really didn't. Jake: Oh, you didn't watch it in recap? Justin: No, I had no reason I saw they won. I was like, yeah, whatever 1611 doesn't seem all that fun It was not fun to watch so Watch it now. I got the recap going on. Yeah. Yeah Just trying to use anything. There's a fight wasn't there? Yeah, there's a big brawl Jake: The food's fun. I'll tell you like what happened in the brawl I forgot the defensive player, but it was covered so you couldn't see the guy actually. I was watching the fight. I forgot who was at the house with me. And I was like, watch Willie Colón get in there. Cause you know what? Willie Colón basically plays. Just to wait for a fight like that guy wants a fight like he's what he's like and he was ripping fucking helmets off people's heads He was doing it
09:00 Jake: Is it fight time? That's what I'm here for kids Hey, they were behind their quarterback Justin: The quarterback's back Jake: Yeah, a little bit. That's nice. For the guy that they don't know. Well, I think they said it on the broadcast They're like, yeah, it's pretty much expected if anything happens to the quarterback that like the offensive line Has to go do something. They have to get like brutal. Also, I feel like this is a team is for that frustration and Fuck it. If it's time to fight, let's fight Justin: I'm ready to fight. You want to fight? Oh, yeah, I'm about to fight you Alright, so we won who's the knight I didn't watch the game. So I don't know I Assume the defense played fairly well. They only gave up 11 points, but then again Jake: Well, let's see. Let's see kind of the genome at the genome. It was the genome the genome eater on a genome eater I'll dig it exact for a safety from terribly sucking to sucking terribly. 16 for 28, 179 yards, 3 sacks, had a touchdown. Justin: No turnovers? I guess... Is a safety not considered a turnover? It should be. Jake: Well, it was one he was being sacked and he... I saw that. I had to get it out, but it was passing from the end zone. They actually, what was interesting was they called it. They called it a fumble. I saw the whole thing. But then they, then they went back and they reversed the decision and said, it's a safety. And it's like, well, and the guy on the one of the, you know, they get the refs now that are in the boos, whatever. I'm glad you just said that. He said. He said, yeah, I don't think that can happen. Like, that's not legal. I'm happy you brought that up. Justin: Oh, good. I have a, I have a, you know, really grinds my gears. I have a gripe. Oh, good. And it's not just the near-gen season. Jake: All right. So Fox, a couple of years back, hired Mike Pereira Justin: to like be the guy in the booth or whatever when... there was a questionable call or whatever, they would throw it to Mike Pereira during the challenge and they would get his take on it like, hey Mike, you used to run the refs, how would you call this? And during the whole replay thing, he would give his opinion and by the end he'd have his opinion and then the referee would come out and say either what he said or maybe something else. And I like that because you the you're seeing how it's very interpretive, right? So it's not always very... it's not black and white. It's not like, oh, that guy was inbounds or out of bounds. You're so racist. Shut up. So then CBS goes ahead and hires... Whatever the fuck that guy's name is. Their guy who does it who was a referee up until last year R.A.R.R. Whatever. Anyway they only throw it to him after the guy comes out of the booth and makes his call and he always agrees with them.
12:04 Justin: He's always like yeah they did that right. Yep, they did it that way because of this. Jake: you Justin: doing something else over here I'm not not listening I'm deeply listening to Jake: your you know what fuck off who's your night I didn't watch I didn't watch so I don't have one my night to you okay so let's move out of night of this game then there's a fool because they lost all right they won no they lost pool is Rex Ryan because all right if you love this team he would be losing right now no Rex Ryan saying Fuck you guys. Yeah. On a fire, man, I'm winning. That's how I'm gonna get back at you. I love it. Justin: I'm gonna win when we can't win. I love Rex. Jake: All right. I'm gonna have Rex over in my house for dinner after he gets fired. Be like, Rex, come on over. Oh, yeah. Want some peaches. I mean, we were talking about this at lunch. Yes, we do talk off the podcast. The weird thing here is that I think all the Jet fans, generally, I guess I've talked to a few that don't like him, but most Jet fans like Rex. They like his bravado. They like the way he talks. They like that. They like from the get-go like when he like him as a person as a person. I think I'm about to say that So so you just wait you can talk about the refs later anyway, so they'll The way he I'm sure they're really happy with you coughing in their ears. It's great or anything You know we came in. I'm not gonna kiss the rings and whatever all this bravado was awesome and Now Justin has lost it Justin by the way this episode brought to you by marijuana Justin is high on it. Oh My god, that'd be a fun podcast No, it'll be a pad cast. So But you know the coaching the coaching is not there. It's just not there. He just he's he's like You want like sitting next to you in the stands? Justin: Fucking get him right, but he's not the guy you want to said that about her Medwards all the time. Yeah Jake: Look, we're how many jobs her which has had to look like he had one. Yeah, and how'd he do for two years? I'm too great. I think yeah more than that. But anyway, she's right. Yeah, it's so good that he got fired Justin: Well, he's got a good job now. Anyway, he's good on to the news. All right on the what's the news? Jake: We have a couple of dumb things basically Justin: Wait any dumber than talking about CBS fucking rap? No, that was a good point And if you were actually listening you were I heard the entire fucktard Jake: So the plane the plane went over the practice field again with the fire is it how I've asked where to get a towel They have these These have Fire John Idzik towels. I want Fire John Idzik underwear.
15:02 Jake: I want to wipe my ass with underwear. Well, I think the good news is that I've been hearing is that there's swaying. This movement, again, is all towards... I love that it's Fire John Idzik or Sell the Team is the new movement. Justin: Or Sell the Team. Jake: Go with them. later. You're taking with you. So how is the as the owner and again we have a couple weeks I guess next week's gonna be real tough. Like how is the owner gonna sit there actually this is it we gotta make our predictions on what's gonna happen because we're not doing a podcast next week and cuz of the cases and then black Monday's R right after right there so wait we can do one oh we can't you'll Justin: be in Miami I'll be in Miami at the game and home Tuesday So, Black Monday, I'll be sitting at the beach. I'll be sitting at the beach. We could do one on Tuesday. Jake: Well, no, I'll be home Tuesday afternoon, like at 5 o'clock. So we could do it Tuesday night? No, we could do it Wednesday. This is gonna happen. So, predictions right now. Why don't we talk about the game and stuff first? No, no, no. Let's do the season predictions. All right. What do you think is gonna happen? Who's fired and what happens? Black Monday. Predict. Predict what I want or predict what is going to happen. You don't predict what you want. Okay, give me both. Since you're going to say both. What rest do you want to be in CBS Boo's next year? Well, my penis says that I want... And this is why we have no good listeners. Here's what's going to happen. Justin: So, I want... Them to start over Fresh like everyone super fresh. Yeah, I mean there's probably like a like a I don't know strength and conditioning coasters someone who'll stick around but I feel like When it came in he He was given free reign to do a lot of things outside of the coaching staff. So he had to like kind of keep the coaches, but he did other things within the organization. I think the whole scouting department's different. From top to bottom, like the player personnel department is all under IDZX thing. And that is not good. Jake: They've been so good. Terrible. And picking terrible players. Justin: Awful. It's been bad. That first draft, Sheldon Richardson, great. After that, I thought it was a good draft the year of, and then all of a sudden the next year it's like, that was a shitty draft. And then this year he picked 12 guys, which is dumb to begin with. And then- It's not dumb, it's six of them are on the field. It's not dumb to fix it on the field. Yeah, you know what? There's one of them on the field for New Orleans. Exactly. That's why it's dumb. Jake: It's even dumb. Justin: I was watching him return punts the other night and I'm like, Oh, that guy. I remember him. We drafted him this fucking year. And then there's like guys who are not drafted as wide receivers playing on other teams that are good as rookies.
18:00 Justin: And I'm like, how the fuck do you fuck that up? Whatever they fucked it up. So what do I want to happen clean the house? What is gonna happen? I think Rex is fired I think the whole coaching staff is gone and I think John it's it gets here for another stint what the stint You can't get it he gets to pick his own coach who then gets to put together the team in the image that him and the coach agree upon and he picks for that coach on like he didn't do Rex any favors he didn't put the team together in Rex's image well he did pick he did defensive players on the first draft that's great but this year going into free agency when You know what Rex needs and- Dimitri Patterson, man. That guy is a shut down- Asshole. So... I just feel like Woody and Idzik have this thing that is not public that was like an agreement like- Like a rudder. Guess what? We're gonna fucking suck and I'm gonna save you a bunch of money here, but we're gonna spend it once we're sort of ready to clean house. and they cleaned the house this year. So I think it's a stays. What do I want? I want them all gone, but I think it's a stay. Jake: Well, if we're doing what I want, I want them to take racks, put them back as defensive coordinator and go get it. You don't just take him back to defensive. Well, he was never our defensive coordinator, but. That's back in a position. That's what I want him to do. Not possible. Well, no, it is possible. It just doesn't happen. It'll never happen. Well, you're saying what I want. You're doing so dumb sometimes. I want the... It's so unbelievable. You want what I want. And the special teams, special needs coordinator, I want him literally... I want him fired now, because he's been the worst. You're the worst. It's like... What's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? What's the... Ah, okay, so I haven't been a Jets fan for as long as you, but I have never, in my shorter term of being a Jets fan, seen... this coordinated of an effort to get someone fired. I've sat in the stands for 10, 11 years now, every friggin' game and heard the rumbling. So, oh, this guy sucks, and oh, this guy sucks, and this guy sucks, and he fucking sucks. And I was sitting with the racist bastard behind us in like 220. Oh my god. You know, making his racist comments. I've been hearing this stuff. Oh man. But I've never seen such a coordinated effort. . and money to get some to get a personnel fired. So I just don't know. I don't feel like Woody is a strong guy. I don't feel like he's like, I'm gonna rock this thing and just fuck you. I'm doing what I want to do. I don't feel like he's that kind of owner. So, you know, he's not like a Dan Schneider. He's just like, I'm just gonna fuck. I'll do what I want. I think he's a guy who kind of can come and go with the wind. And so I feel like he's going to put his, you know, finger in the air
21:02 Jake: and he's going to feel the thing coming. I think he's going to fire. I think it's everybody's out gone. Gone. There's no, no, no. So you're saying is it stays? Justin: Well, I can remember like, I mean, we're in a whole different time now than we were in like the eighties when I was started going to games as a kid in the late eighties. Um, And Joe Walton was our coach and there were these incredible Joe Musko chants. It was just the best. Jake: I've heard those. I've heard the sit the players. Justin: I've never heard a fire rex chant or like... Well, because id dick doesn't rhyme with shittick. Well, you could get a fire id dick chant. Jake: Going now pretty easy cuz Joe must go is good. Yeah fire Justin: No, it does not it it has the fire it dick Jake: That's the chain. I've heard that I've never heard that all you'll see here in this week Well, I mean they're bringing they're putting out 10,000 towels, I mean it's beloved I want to tell but you've never seen that before Justin: No, we're in a whole different universe. Jake: Right, but they're not even doing like... But they're not doing media shit. They're doing billboards. Like, they're not doing... I like it. They have tweets. I like it. They have a website. They got the tweeters. Um, well that's my question is, who's funding... Fire John and Zic? Some guy. Not a small amount of money. It's crowdfunded. No, I don't see anything to donate on the website. Would you donate? No, I've already given enough money to Fire John Idzik. I give my season tickets and I pay a lot of money. Justin: I wouldn't give him any money. Here's the thing. Jake: But I will say I want them on the line. Fuck you Fire John Idzik. But if Idzik stays, he's gonna. I will be more than happy to say Fine, there is some plan that I don't know about and let's see if he can put it together. All the money in the world, all the whatever. I just don't think that his plan said year two barely win games. Justin: He might have said year one were not going to be any good and then they just completely over achieved last year. Jake: But then he's gonna say year two not gonna be getting good either. I don't think anybody buys into that plan. Justin: I think he had this year pegged as the I gotta get rid of a ton of salary. I'm stuck here. Okay. Because think about it. I think we're probably I think we're going with 35 to 40 million dollars. From a talent perspective, I think we're maybe about the same. As what last year? from year to year. Feel like I actually more talented this year not maybe not in every area Jake: I know there's give-and-take right certain areas corner. What what's the big miss kamarti? Justin: Whatever well he's playing a nice role on a top defense right now there We go as a starting corner on like the number one to scoring defense
24:00 Jake: I think that's where I give Ed's like most of the shit is that because draft is draft is a potshot. I mean the Patriots have been known to draft poorly. They get their ones and twos guys, but they generally over the last 10 years, their things with wide receivers, they've drafted some of the worst wide receivers in the last 10 years, it's kind of what they do. But what they don't do is the free agent stuff not pulling in, they pull in good guys and they pull in guys who help that team win. And I feel like that's what Izzik didn't do this year, was sort of I mean, again, total swing and misses on guys when they were out there and available because he wanted to save this money. And then like doing the, I'm gonna save all my money and I'm gonna get someone like Demetri Patterson who's gonna literally not even be able to start a game for the New York Jets in one season because he's such a fucking head case. Those are terrible. Again, the game plan wasn't to go in with three guys on IR and some shit-dickers off the street. The game plan was going with starting first round draft pick who's gonna do better and Demetri Peterson, guy who's okay enough to be the other guy. Seemed like a good plan, but looking back and not getting Revus and not getting these other guys, not that guys like... Karmarti, uh, Roddage Karmarti have been, you know, world beaters. Um, but anyway. Alright, let's get off of here. Alright. Happily. Fantasy. Oh, I'm in the finals. I am nowhere near the finals. Justin: I'm in the Super Bowl once again. Are you gonna win? I don't know. Okay, honest with you. I did I was the number one in the regular season. I'm playing the sizzle daddy jets So sizzle daddy jets Seth Jacobson yes, he's in next year as far as I'm concerned if he wants to know we've already said Jake: We've already changed the rules. We said that what we're doing this year because we kind of like the consistency. It's kind of what makes Leagues good is we're gonna let everyone back who wants it. You're gonna have to tell us bias Well, hey, if you if you don't see if you stupid like don't set your line up or like are a shit dick We're you're I don't think anyone has been that I've been really good, right? So then everybody gets okay, and if everybody wants to go says hey, I'm done whatever I don't be a fucking jet spinner. Okay, then we will then we will replace them. Okay. I just feel like then that makes the year to yearness of it more fun. And then also maybe we then don't talk about as much of the podcast, because we're talking about a little bit. But what I know. So anyway. I don't think people really like it. Other than the 12 people in the league. Well, the people that are in it. Yeah. Justin: I'm in the finals against sizzle daddy. Jake: Who's your jet? Why don't we just put the jet side of it? My jet is the Jets defense. And you have one other too. Justin: Yeah, but that jet never plays. That's Jeff Cumberland. No. Big gum? Yes. Heard he's a load. He's a big load. All right. Well, let's go to him. And Sizzle's Addy's jet is Jason Marrow. Jake: So he's been pretty bad. Pretty bad. All right. So let's talk Pickham.
27:00 Jake: You actually surpassed me two weeks ago. I know. You said... You got a 10 and I got an 8 so you're 1.8 Justin: What's going on? I caught you heading down the stretch Jake: And now we gotta make our picks Justin: Putting on the moves Jake: And you got it last night right and I got it wrong Sure did So let's go, let's pick some pick them Let's go before my computer crashed Justin: Oh, your computer is such a pain in the ass. Yeah, I know. Alright, we have two Saturday games! Jake: I know. I have a holiday party tomorrow. Yeah. And I need to... Um... And I'm putting up the command center so I can have... Carol's coming out of one place. Yeah. You log on another. And then the game... On the third of the command center. Justin: So you have two Saturday games. We also have three, four o'clock games on Sunday. That's pretty good. As well as a Sunday night and the last Monday night game of the year. The last Monday night game of the year. Was the last Thursday night game. They gave us a gem. Jacksonville, Tennessee. All right. Saturday, 1 30. We have. The Philadelphia Sancho's going to Washington to face RG two and a half. Philadelphia favored by seven and a half on the road. Give me the Eagles. Yeah. Succcho! Jake: Isn't Washington absolutely terrible? Horrid. So why is it only seven and a half? I guess it's plus the... Suck Joe. It's because of Suck Joe? Seven and a half on the road is pretty large. What's he gonna throw? How many interceptions? One. One interception? I think he goes... Three touchdowns. Two interceptions, one touchdown. Because I think he'd run it in. They do run a lot. I think he matches it so he's ten for ten. Who you pickin'? Give me the Eggles. Justin: Your San Francisco 49ers are home and are only favored by one point against the San Diego Superchargers and I like San Diego because they have to win and San Francisco is basically done. They're out of the playoffs. They're not playing. in the playoffs this year. They're officially done. They are done. Your Super Bowl team. Not making the playoffs. Mine on the other hand, still in contention. Who's yours? Chargers, huh? No, I had Seattle versus New England. Jake: Oh, that'd be a good Super Bowl. Anyway, I'm going to pick San Diego Chargers. San Diego Chargers. All right. I'm picking fan Sam Fran Sam Fran. Yep coaches foot out the door. Oh boy. Wouldn't that be something? They're not coming to us Justin: Wouldn't that be ease going to Michigan? He's not going to Michigan. He'd already be there All right, Detroit is Going to the horrible Chicago Bears who are starting Jimmy Claussen. So this line went from four and a half to nine how about that and I still like Detroit Chicago is terrible I watch that Monday
30:06 Justin: night game against the Saints they're just so bad in every level nine and now Jimmy Claus Jimmy me listen Jimmy Clausons to me one of the worst Notre Dame Jake: Professional football thing that can happen to them is a Santa Claus and yeah Give me Chicago you're taking that I just don't Not so bad Detroit has not been a good team Detroit could win that division Justin: Yeah, but they're not a good they're not like a high scoring NFC North now high scoring team. Okey dokey Alrighty, New Orleans, this is for all the marbles, New Orleans is hosting Atlanta. New Orleans is favored by six. If Atlanta loses, they're out of the playoffs. Atlanta wins, I feel like there's some sick, crazy scenario with New Orleans, Atlanta and Carolina where Atlanta would hold the... tiebreak over New Orleans because they beat them twice I think. Atlanta's crazy you know they're they're they're five wins I think they're five and eight is that right five and nine don't know five and nine I think look at that the number yeah five and nine They're five and nine, but they're four and oh in division, which means they're one and nine outside of that piece of shit division Yeah, anyway This line is six New Orleans is favored by six and I think that's just too many for Two bad teams that are playing each other. So give me this Give me the points. Give me six. I'll take Atlanta in a dome. They both play in a dome. Doesn't matter. New Orleans doesn't win your home anymore. Anyway, gives a shit. Jake: Yeah. I just like New Orleans is a better team. I want to take Nola. Okay. Justin: Pittsburgh's hosting Kansas city in a game. They both need Pittsburgh's awesome at home. They're only favored by three Kansas city. Can't throw down the field. Give me Pittsburgh. Jake: I will take Pittsburgh and the. Justin: Yes. Okay. Green Bay is going to Tampa. Green Bay coming off a bad loss. They're angry. It's the Bay of Pigs. They're favored by 10 and a half on the road. A lot of points. I'll take it. Jake: Tampa is going to lie down on the field. They don't want to win. They're not. They're fucking idiots. Like if they're not fucking it's like the Jets. They should lie down. Let the team. them. Yeah, can we be rolling over there need a corner and you're right Green Bay really is pissed about was that's a bad loss but fumbles Justin: Carolina's hosting Cleveland Looks like cams gonna play cam looks like it's also Johnny football Jake: Yeah, so basically can't get the money. Can we go back to you talking about how you wanted to draft him? Justin: Yeah, trade for him now. Jake: You... I'm ready. Can we not...
33:00 Jake: Bring back Johnny. Can you pick a quarterback you win the draft you like right now so I can not draft him? Justin: No. Jake: Okay, cause you're terrible at picking quarterbacks. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you were like, this guy's a game changer. He's really good. He is a game changer. Justin: He's a midget. You know what? I'm picking him. Jake: No, thanks. Carolina's D. Well is not been there. Not any good. Sorry. They're not but you know, who's also You know who's not good Johnny fucking football. Okay, give me Cleveland. I'll take Carolina with three Justin: Cleveland's defense winning this game. All right Last one o'clock Baltimore at Houston Baltimore needs this needs to win never buy five. I like them Like I like Baltimore they got Kubiak as their offensive coordinator going back into Houston where he was fired I think that means something I like Houston is Jake: On their 17th quarterback of the starting. We know and I think I think it's I have no idea Let's see. Let's see what the news says. I mean they've gone through everybody right? Yeah, cuz that guy's savage. I think it's hurt Justin: Is the case Keenum? I think it T Lewis and K. Dad Lewis. Is it Dad Lewis? Dad Lewis. Like, guide from the Billsville for you? Or whatever? Yeah, I'll take Baltimore. Yeah. I'll take Baltimore twice. Okay. This line is not big enough. Four o'clock. St. Louis hosts the Giants. This is fun. I wanna watch Odell Beckham, versus Patrick Peterson, Jake: We can get home for this. This is a four. Oh we can watch this one. We can get home for the way the other week Was it two weeks ago with the Jets and Giants were on the same at one o'clock. I know I was Like this is not happening. This is not happen And it shouldn't ever happen, but it happened. I don't know. Fuck these schedule makers. Justin: Anyway, St. Louis' home favored by five and a half. Jake: Oh, you know what else came out? Our opponents for next year. Justin: Yeah, I guess it's locked at this point. Yeah. Because of all the, I guess, everything's locked up. With our last place schedule. We play the Giants, right? We play the NFC East. At home. Or at their home. Well, it'll be at that stadium. Giants are home though, right? Anyway, St. Louis favored by five. I like St. Louis. Uh, oh yeah, I'll take St. Louis. Dallas, in a game that they need, against the Colts, in a game that they don't need, Dallas favored by three. Looks like Demarco Murray's gonna play. Crazy. After having hand surgery. I would think I would just sit him out one week. Jake: I think you need to win, and if he can play, you play him, I guess. I would sit him out. Justin: They're running him into the ground, because... You know he's not going to be there next year. So. the game Dallas needs so bad. It's the game that the Colts who don't need to win anymore.
36:04 Justin: Right. Because they're not moving into the top two and they've already won their division. Jake: So like they're not really going anywhere. Justin: This is such a loses but Jake: Feel like they're different this year. I'm gonna take Dallas. I'm gonna take Colts think Colts are not resting Justin: They're gonna go full. Oh, they're not resting. They're trying to win. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely Buffalo Is really good Buffalo doing I was gonna save it and then you got me you say Buffalo is a cold city All right, and you can Sunday night- anda a and great game, Seattle at Arizona. Jake: This is the I think this is other than the Jets debacle, which we'll talk about. This is one game I actually want to watch. Justin: Yeah, Seattle. I mean, we have two good prime time games here. Seattle at Arizona. Seattle favored by eight on the road, which is wrong. Arizona's got a I really good defense still. I understand it's going to be like third string quarterback against Seattle. So they're not this. game might not be very high scoring. I could see it ending 17 to 10. Seattle, but not covering their favorite by eight. Jake: So give me Arizona. Yeah, I give Arizona. Uh, I think they're just going to play lights out. I don't settle. Justin: It's just doesn't lose at home either. Jake: They still haven't. That's very good at home. Everybody's gonna beat him. It'll be Seattle, but sure but whatever I'll take the points Okay, I can see this being 1720. I can see this being you know 1815 it could be you know, oh my crazy scores. You're fucked hard Justin: Denver is going to Cincinnati. Yes, and Denver's only favored by three and I think that's wrong too. So I'll take Denver I'll take Cincy. Jake: Okay the Cincyc Eagles Redskins Browns and we're playing the NFC Justin: East so you have the AFC South NFC East and then we have our last place schedule Which means we're playing the Raiders and the Browns? Yes Cool. And now who did we get at at home from the so those are all see South Tennessee and Jacksonville. Yes I It's a bunch of losing teams.
39:01 Jake: For the last three and then this will be four in a row. I mean, the Redskins next year? At.-. abund on I and the At home, I mean like I have the Eagles at home Justin: That Jake: fixes Smell them right now, but Browns it could be it could be Johnny football could be a lot of fun I think this could be good. This could be good. Love me a last-place schedule Yeah, I don't love and they don't look at any of these teams and like oh these are gonna be terrible terrible terrible teams I mean not like this year which had the Steelers of course where we beat the Steelers but like This is this is if you could turn this team around very quickly. That's the way it works Justin: Well, that's why the scheduling is I mean, it's only two different games than the rest of your than the rest of your division. Yeah, but it's a big play. But it makes a big difference, right? You get Oakland and you get Cleveland. If you're the Pats, you get Denver, and you get either Cincinnati or Pittsburgh or Baltimore, whoever wins that division. Right. All right, so let's do some thrown picks. Okay. What do you got here? Minnesota is going to Miami, and Miami's favored by six and a half in this game. I don't know why. Like Minnesota's not bad. Jake: They're really not a bad team. They weren't really... Well, they got beat by a worse team. Who? Don't make statements without knowing. Sorry, we lost. Thank you. Thankfully, I was thinking about last week. I was thinking that we lost. Well, what'd they do last week? Minnesota, I don't know they do terribly. I don't know no I Don't think they're a good team. I don't think they're bad though. That's the thing They're not six and a half bad like that that doesn't but the Dolphins are kind of good this year Although it doesn't matter. No job. Good job being good when it doesn't matter. I don't know if they're that good I think they're like I think these things are like very they lost the choice by two points last week. It's pretty tough Justin: Detroit's like, you know, nine or ten win team. Okay, they won against us, which is terrible. They won against Carolina's terrible Jake: They lost to the Green Bay. Okay, they lost to Chicago. Okay, they're terrible vision. They won against Washington they won against Tampa Bay. They lost to Buffalo. They lost to Detroit. They lost to the Green Bay So they won against Atlanta. What's the pattern here? Good teams Justin: I don't think so. Jake: They're very good. You want to see? I don't care. Justin: I'm against New England. Minnesota, 20 down here. Jake: I don't care what you wrote down. 22 Miami. Justin: Buffalo, traveling to Oakland. And Buffalo's favored by five and a half on the road.
42:03 Justin: And guess what? Buffalo has a Super Bowl hangover after beating Green Bay. And they think they're just going to waltz into Oakland and the be like, Hey, Raider Nation, we're going to win. And it ain't happening. I think Oakland is going to win this game. Oakland's got this little pattern now of win-loss, win-loss, it's time to win. So I like me some Oakland Raiders to beat the Buffalo Bills by a score of 17. Thirteen. Jake: Buffalo's defense is in travel., Oakland still not a good team. Even their ups and downs. I agree there's the hangover piece, but I feel like they got a little vibe going. I feel like the Buffalo Bills are, you know, playing for the to be the second best in the AFC East. Yay. Yay. a. Good for them. 24.10 Buffalo Jills. Alright. The J. I. Justin: This is it. This is one that I had circled on my calendar beginning of the year innovation like put him up on the screen or during the intros of the players like put him up there so that like he's announced to or some like I don't know they could do that, they would recognize him but you can't do it because it's not the last game of the season and it he's not fired so you kind of can't even though this is why this whole not firing to the end of the year weird Jake: You know, they should do they should announce at- Justin: This game really means something. Jake: Well it did last year. That's what he said last year. If we win this game I might be fired this year. He knows he's not saying that. He knows he's fired. I think the, obviously the Patriots still have something to play for. unsurprised. Clearly they want that number one home field throughout.
45:01 Justin: So they're going to be trying to kill us. Yeah they want the AFC going through. And I'm sure they'd be extremely happy to put the final nail in the Jets. Oh, yeah. Beat them and in the playoffs. Jake: I don't know if they respect Rax. Justin: I think he's given more trouble than end. Any of the other coaches in the division? Jake: Yes, I mean and again beating them in the playoffs in their home. Justin: That one was rough. I mean we were there. They lost three games that year. Two of them were to us. It was fucking awesome. They were not happy walking out of there. Jake: But I don't think they're going to tip the hand. I think it's going to be again. Kind of an angry mob of people and the, you know, at the game. Justin: I don't see it. I think people will be just kind of like laid back, chill. And if the game gets good, they'll be really into it. Because it's still the Patriots. Yeah. And it's still a fun game. Jake: If we win, all we do is do nothing to them. And if we win, we do everything. we're not getting that number one pick. We're not even getting the number two pick at this point. It's like. So six seven eight nine ten doesn't matter eleven twelve thirteen. I don't think so. I don't think it matters Justin: I really I like to pick in the top ten. I mean look you can fuck up. You can be let me ask you this so Yeah, I mean you're the finally That's I don't know. Not what I was gonna say. So last year, the Bills had the number nine. Pick and then the Bills had the number nine pick. Pick and they traded up to four with the Browns. And they gave away the first round. They gave away the first round or this coming year, which will be like a 15. Something in there. to get Sammy Watkins Odell Beckham. Jake: I mean, you're happy with any three of those guys. But that's, yes, great. Name off a bunch of receivers. How about quarterbacks? Justin: There's not one worth drafting in this draft. Jake: Really? You're gonna keep with that until May? I'm sticking with it. Justin: Absolutely, I don't believe that Marietta is that good and I don't believe that Winston would work in New York. And I don't think he's that good either Jake: Winston's like Gino I Feel like I feel like there's also I don't pay attention to quarterbacks in college and guess what I think they play each other I Justin: Feel like Oregon's playing Florida State in the one of the two like championship Like the playoffs the first round. I think they're the two in the three Watch that game. Oh
48:01 Jake: No, you said to go watch the game. I watch this game two weeks ago It was two weeks ago. Not this last Saturday, but Saturday for the night game I was in Puerto Rico and I watched the game and it was the game he led down and went Good them down to the fourth quarter won the game is drawing touchdowns as ass. He looked great I was like, what did you not see who which guy were you watching? Winston, he had a great game. Great. Two weeks ago, and you were watching, I was like, I watched him, what the fuck are you seeing? But now that you think that Succez is so good, and that Johnny Football is the second coming of Christ. Johnny Football is great in college. I think you should tell me who you hate the most and that's the team we should, that's the guy we should have picked. Anyway keys the castle lose this game is play like the Jets this year put Gino out there Let him throw three picks let Drell Rivas come back to our house and shit all over us and make us once again realize why why we should never let him go and This is terrible. This is the whole thing is terrible. I love it. The Patriots in the best spot. We have the worst spot They have Reavis, we got shit zippers. It's terrible. The whole thing's terrible. We'll be there because, you know, I'm a Jets fan, and I'm going to the last two games this season. I'm going down to Miami to watch that shit show as well. But at least I'll be in this nice sunny warmth with a- I'll be drinking a mojito or something. Guess what? What? What's your key to the castle? I want them to lose the game, so put Gino out there. The key to the castle is Gino Smith all the way. Yes! Throw the ball! 55 times. And then we'll lose. Badly. I think we'll actually keep it a little bit close because it's a rival game. And the players kind of don't like each other, but they're gonna beat us. Call me crazy? Oh, Jesus. You really... You're terrible at this. Justin: I'm so good at this. Call me crazy. Yeah, I think they're gonna win this game Jake: I'll be the worst thing ever Call me crazy. What does that do for us? Justin: You're asking me what I think is gonna happen. Okay, I think is what it's gonna do for us Jake: I only brought my points to that we'd lose 19 to 28 only because I was trying to keep us within the spread but otherwise I was like they're gonna put up 30 something points and we can't I don't want you're going to Justin: Alright, I feel like they're even pissed about almost not beating us last time. I think we're pissed because we didn't beat him last time. I think we're gonna get him. Okay. We've stopped him before. Jake: I guess it would be fun just to watch us beat the past. 2320. Alright. JTSS just said that. You're fucking insane. Alright, lights have gone off here in the Party of Go studio. I'm quitting before this thing quits on us. We will probably not be back next week. So happy holidays to everybody. May you all get a new coach and a new general manager in your stocking. May you all have wins. May your Madden team be better than your actual Jets team, which is not hard to say. And we'll be back probably the Wednesday or Thursday after.
51:02 Jake: Whatever to talk about the end of the season who got fired who's on the block and we got all sorts of fun things That's the beauty about this It just starts again now we get to talk about coaches and whatever and who we're gonna get and draft and all that So we back them for Justin and Jake as always Go Jets