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00:25 Jake: Welcome to Jake Kingdom podcast. Never. My name is Jake. And I'm here rapping like... No, forget it. Sorry, it was terrible. You're I'm Jake. But right now we're happy to be brought to you by the team that's gotten demolished, four weeks in a row. - Justin: Something happened to show us all those things but it all will have the dolphins Jake: Now the run game was terrible. I don't I disagree whole, wholeheartedly 22 carries What's a good about that, what are you talking about Justin: Willmar Miller the number one running had an average of 3.3. He's not a, runner They ran for 125 yards I think. Yeah, but the dolphins ran for 125 yards. The Jets were giving up 70 something yards a game on the run. They almost doubled that. Jake: Yeah. No, no, no. Justin: Yeah, total. The Jets were giving up 70 something yards on the ground. Just count the number one running back. Tell me why we lost. Why did we do this? Because we suck. Wow. Because we can't score. We've scored no touchdowns in our last two whole games. Two full games have gone by, no touchdowns. Gino hasn't thrown a touchdown in over a month. Right? He's thrown eight picks in that time. Just plenty good. Um, and the defense is on the field too much the first half the defense was on the field for 25 minutes You realize there's only 30 minutes and a half of football. I do realize that I do know that i'm not an extra We got creamed in the time of possession 39 to 21 That's that's miserable. How are you supposed to stop anybody? They did a decent job, but then there's breakdowns They were stupid at the end of the half.

03:00 Justin: They HAD to run into the half losing 3-0? And been happy, gotten the ball at halftime down 3-0 Instead, with 40 something seconds to go, they get the ball back with 3 timeouts at their own 20. and they decide, we're a real team, and then took another knee, they would have gotten booed off the field with mouths. But guess what? Going down It's true. Jake: I mean, they keep putting him in and they're gonna put him in this game, -this coming up game we're gonna talk about in a little bit. But like, they did pull him. They pulled him at the half. Third time. Third time he's been pulled all season. Third time he's been pulled all season I'll see. Justin: He and D Milner have something in common. Jake: Yeah. He is really struggling. He's very raw. I'm I feel like my opinion of him hasn't really shifted. It's like it's just it's just gone. It's just shifted. Well, it's shifted, but shifted a little bit this way, a little bit this way. When he was doing really well, I was like, I've seen a little bit. I don't believe I'm not a full believer now that he's done pretty badly. I'm still like, I've seen a little bit more. I'm not a believer or a hater. I feel like the guy is got talent there somewhere physical. I'm not sure, you know, looking at what he's done so far and comparing him to, again, it's tough because we just went through the number one rookie year for quarterbacks in in terms of what they did their first year. In a while. In maybe ever, three rookie quarterbacks made it to the playoffs. I don't think that's ever happened. I think they said it last year, it was like never happened. And then another guy was his first year starting. Justin: There are a couple really good rookie classes. You know, the manning Rafflesburger Rivers classes. Jake: So they put in Mad Sims and everybody in the world, including me, was like, maybe this is it. We're gonna see, see something. And then you know what happens when you put in the backup? Justin: You see why he's a backup. He's a backup. He's a backup who's never played. And he's a rookie also. Jake: Well, he's a rookie backup. Yeah, and you put them in and you, okay. That's why you you went for nine yards through an interception sack three times for twenty two yards. Justin: You know, we're seeing we're seeing why G, you know, was not a first round pick. We're seeing it. Every team passed on him for a reason and deservedly. So you're not. I mean, if we picked him. 9th or 13th boy would I be pissed off right? I'm not I'm still not mad with that pick Jake: No, I'm at the peak because I still feel he's a great value pick and he's still and again They didn't pick him to start they picked him to back up Sanchez Justin: Well, maybe Jake: Wanted him start new markets as would blow his shoulder in a freak play always scrambling around and they were letting Gino win that job

06:06 Justin: Oh, I don't think so. He started game three of the preseason. And if he played halfway decent, Which he didn't. He played like Gino. But if he played halfway decent, like he did in game one of the NFL season, or like he played in Atlanta, he played like that, that was his job. So they were handing him the job. The organization didn't want Sanchez to start. But he was winning. He was winning. They didn't say that though. Jake: He looked better on the field. I'm where we're now in, we're out of the playoffs. Not out of the playoffs. There's some, whatever. This is the worst time of the year when this is like 1% percent chance to make it in. But you just. Remember in 2009 when Rex said we were out of the playoffs? And then we made the playoffs? Yep, that was awesome. I don't want to be in the position, I don't wanna be in the position to be in the playoffs. What I'd like to do is sit back and watch this kid play for four games. Four? Justin: Four. Four more games and just watch him play. Then you better root for us to be just losing all the games. Because I do not want to be picking 16 in the draft. I want to be picking in the top 10 then. If I'm not making the playoffs, I want to be picking number 8. I don't think the difference between 8 and 16 is a big deal. It is a big deal. I don't think so. Jake: the 8th and 16th, right now. Justin: I can't why does it hatred seem to pick pretty well even though Jake: I'm not excited about Brady sixth round. No, I hate that I think you know what we should ban that from every conversation about the draft six Well, you could get a talk you get Tom Brady Wilson third round That's a better one. He looks good he looks I watched him play like a full game like watching him play and Justin: He's good. Let me ask you a question. No, I'm gonna veer into that NFL for a minute Please don't away from the Jets because it's so sad. It's so sad. All right, so whenever I read about like top young quarterbacks. They always bring up the three big rookies from last year. Yes. And then they throw Kaepernick in there. You talked about this last week. So I hope you don't have any of it. No, not on this podcast. We just talked about it, you and I. No, we talked about it on the podcast. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. You did. You talked about all right. Maybe you didn't I think you did we talk a lot So it's possible I forgot when you talk rank these one to five. Okay one to five The three rookies from last year luck Russell Wilson RG 3 Colin Kaepernick Cam Newton who you going to war with Oh can't fight. Yeah, can you do came in there?

09:04 Justin: And then the same draft classes Colin Kaepernick. Okay, I'm gonna do go backwards five to one five to one What do you want right now on the Jets? Five so worst five is the worst party three. Okay, then I'll take Jake: Then cap Justin: Capernick then cam Cam Newton then luck luck So you want Russell Wilson's your top guy of those five then Russell Wilson. Wow I've watched him play. I think my order is very similar to yours. Just luck in luck in luck I think I'd rather have luck. Jake: But I'm watching this year and I'm watching Russell Wilson still do it and I'm watching luck not do it. Justin: Yeah. Jake: Luck's not playing very well this year, kids. I know he lost his number one weapon, but by the way, Russell Wilson lost his number one weapon before the game started. Yeah. His number one weapon... You might be better off. You might be better off, that way. And he's got an incredible advantage at home, and he's got an incredible defense. Well, that has nothing to do with him. And he's got an incredible running game. Nothing to do with him. Well, no, but it helps him be good. Well, that, that, again, I'm planting a guy on the jet. Yeah, but his decision making is amazing. And he knows exactly where to scramble, when to scramble. He's got, he looks like a guy who's been playing for five to six years. He's excellent. Whereas look, I think he's got great talent. He's got great physical ability that you don't see. Like you don't notice, you know, he just. But when some guys get near- He shreds them. He just pushes them down. You know like Ben Rofford. Justin: He is like Cam Newton. He's a lot like him. Jake: I think Cam Newton is great but Cam Newton also... He... I don't know if I'd put it all on him to do it right now. Justin: My order is very similar to yours. RG35, Tapernic 4, Cam I think Cam Newton 3, Wilson Luck. Wilson then Lott. Jake: But honestly, I would take anyone. I'll take anyone. Five. Any of them. Sure, absolutely. And I would be happy. I actually think, with Upside, biggest upside. I think Cam Newton has the biggest upside personally. Maybe. I think I think Kaepernick could be an actual thrower and just sit back there and just shred people. I think Newton could too. I don't think Newton's got a big arm. He's got a big arm. I don't think he's got a big arm. It's good, but I think he makes a lot of his plays by busting out and having people can't tackle him. He's good statistically because he's the guy who can take it in from the two yard and just push through about five guys and score. By the way, Geno Smith not on that list. So who are the guys this year? So we got Geno, EJ Manuel. Justin: EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon. There's one more. Tampa. Rookie quarterbacks? Jake: Yeah, there's a couple more but they're R, I think that's it. The guy went, there's one with the Steelers. There's like. Yep, they picked up one and. Well, the Giants strapped it, Justin: well he's never gonna apply for the Giants. Jake: So of those three, I still, sadly,

12:00 Jake: I still think, you know, Smith's the best of those three. Justin: Mike Glennon's the have been playing really well lately on. On the Jake: Once he's like gotten it. Yeah, but you know what position he's also in he's in the it doesn't matter dude You're coaches your coach is toast. No, your team is toast. No, Justin: He's not toast. I don't think he's getting fired. No, he should be fired. They are fighting back. They just fired kubiak. First coach fired this 2000. Jake: Alright, let's go back and give let's go back and hey, you're awesome. Let's go back and make our fool the game Fuck everybody nobody Justin: I just burped into the microphone. That's how I feel about it, I'm really getting disappointed in the, Jake: I just burped into the microphone. That's how I feel about it. I'm really getting disappointed in the defense which I thought was gonna be I don't think stellar. I don't Justin: I don't. All right, so here's what happened with the defense. They gave up three points in the first half and then the offense gave the dolphins another three and they were on the field for 25 minutes. That's not fair. Right to them. Okay, so sure. They gave up 23 points to the dolphins and but they made big stops where they had to on two to fourth down. So they stopped them on the goal line and in no man's land. They got off the field when they had to in the first half and then the second half they got a little worn down and no bad. Field field position a couple bad tackles on both of the touchdown passes were long touchdown passes because it's bad tackle Jake: It's the thing that's killing us all here these long touchdown passes. Yeah, but these weren't over the tops these were Justin: Running through you they weren't like long One was 31 yards. I think three guys missed a tackle and the other one was 28 yards in mill and they're just Didn't even try and tackle my quads. He's just like, let them Awesome relenting. So who's your fool? I know what we pick. Can't keep Hacking Gino. Jake: I'm going to pick the offensive line because I think they're actually not past protecting very well. I think he actually, not as much I think Gino is making big time mistakes, Justin: but it's like through for 29 yards in the first half. Jake: Who? Gino. Oh yeah, he's 29 yards. Yeah. He has a quarterback rating of 1.6. No. QBR, 1.6. Oh that's the ESPN. ESPN, well, well. Justin: QBR. Matt Sims, 3.1. Not much better. His actual rating was 8.3. Right. And what's- I don't think his rating's been above 15 in the last- since the- the bye week. Jake: So, all right. So let's move on. Terrible game. Awful. And losing to like, not a good team. This isn't like we go because of good team. Well, they have a better record than us. They're six and six. Well, they do now. If we'd won that game, we would have the better record. They didn't have a better record going into that game. Justin: Sure, we're not a good team at five and seven. Jake: We're not a good team. Well, awful. All right, so let's talk about any injuries. stuff we talk about guys are coming back Justin: Well, they had homes on a snap count. No, they had homes on nothing He they basically said you're active. He played two snaps and then stopped playing

15:01 Justin: They stopped in play or he stopped playing whoever it was. Okay, he played two He went out on the first pass play of the game where Gino got sacked and then the next play was a run and then that was it. Cuz done he played two snaps. Oh, okay. He makes me Josh cribs out for the year Lost him lost our punt returner kick returner Wildcat Jake: Spark plug offense guy, but the guy but not I got to win to the season thinking like Josh cribs gonna win the season for us some pickup off the What are you all getting upset about? No, I mean, I'm like, I'm- It's actually turned into a- What's an excuse? What's an excuse? Justin: Well, we lost Josh Cribbs. Who cares? You didn't have Josh Cribbs. Josh Cribbs didn't even come from beginning the game. What are you angry about? You lost a guy who played a role on a team. A special teams player who returned both punts and kicks better than anybody else on the team. That is true. And then also ran the wildcat for you. Jake: Which I but then I understand that because there should have been other guys who are set to run the wildcat beyond him. Ball was doing fine running the wildcat. Justin: What are you arguing about? They lost the guy. Jake: I'm arguing that they lost the guy. Justin: And then actually, luckily for them, they're going to get curly back. So curly and Holmes haven't played together since week four. So they're actually both slated to play this week, which is nice. What else we got? Such a douche. I feel like that's it. Gino's still starting. Jake: That's the only news. What else is there? So let's talk about the real news now. We have the Rex Fire Meter. The Rex Fire Meter started off strong. Like, you're going to get fired. and went you know it got Justin: He started to win and do well, beat the Patriots, I think, and then beat the Saints. I don't think he's done a bad job with the cards he's been dealt. He's done well with the defense. He's done nothing with the offense, but who could? Well, Marty could couldn't. But who could really? And we did this last year. We were kind of defending. Sanchez a little bit like who the hell's he throwing the ball to we were there we were watching these guys are not open No, they get jammed at the line. They don't know how to get off Stephen Hill I think had his first catch in four games and it was one catch for two yards. So like this guy by the way So I was reading a little something about Stephen Hill Stephen Hill. This will all come together in a minute. So In the 2012 NFL Draft, which is last year, second year players,

18:10 Justin: The Jets had Stephen Hill on their board with a first round rating. Jake: Yeah, I'm not so sure he sucks. Justin: I'm not pretty sure, he's pretty bad. Jake: You always said for the last 20 years you gave wide receivers coming with their own own and their dirty. Justin: They have to show a little something. He's shown a little something. He hasn a... Not and a lot. He's shown... A little bit. He's shown nothing, pretty much. So, you can't go four games without catching a ball and then catch one for two yards. When you have a quarterback who has a rating of three... I'm sorry, but Ace Sanders for fucking... Chad Henny out there is catching balls. Yeah, cuz Chad Henny right now is a better quarterback than Geno Smith I mean glared why receivers can't throw the ball there guys. Okay, fine So Owen ate as a starter fantastic you see K. Yeah, you got rookies out there catching ball. So anyway, why are we favored in this game? I but anyway, because Matt McGloin is starting for Oakland so So so Stephen Hill's the first round Target thing. We have a grade on him for the first round. So in the second round trader Mike I'm gonna trade up in the second round. I'm gonna get Stephen Hill. So he trades up to get a receiver. Yes. Two picks later, Chicago. Oh, Drafts the receiver. What is his name? Dunno. All Sean Jeffery. That guy had more your yards this past week than Stephen Hill has all year. He had like 200, something yards. Josh Gordon was drafted last year, supplemental draft. He had more yards last week than Stephen Hill's had all year. You get shit. He's had more yards in the That's what I'm saying. Well, a trader mic has been fired, so... You're saying Stephen Hill? Bad. Like, and that was easy to see too. It was like, oh, you traded up for a receiver who caught 37 balls in college because he played in a triple option offense? He was a great blocker. What the fuck is that? He was a great blocker. And then two picks later goes Alshon Jeffery. He's still not a starter!

21:09 Justin: and where he went up and like Just caught like he comm and, you where you snuck in and sneeze a fourth seed. How did I sneak I Jake: worst team, making it into the playoffs. There's a lot of Whatever that they offs will that be who is that be who is that? Yeah, the playoffs will decide any credit for having the best record of the season All right, no, so playoffs will then there's the other man everything the LIC podcasters Number one seed the upstaters from the other West are the number two seed with a tie if you're the number one seed Justin: Why am I not playing you? You're definitely not the number one seed. I am. Because if I'm the last seed, then what? No, the Upstaters is the one seed. Because that's who I'm playing. Jake: They are. Justin: He's 9-3-1. He has a better record than you, asshole. Oh, yeah, you're right. Why don't you flaunt about not having the best record in the league? I'm number two. God damn it. God damn, Ties. You're number two. You're shit. I don't like Ties. I told you we should go to decimals. We're not going to decimals. Jake: And you don't like Ties. All right. I'm still better than you. Suck it. Let's move on. I'm taking on in the two-week format. I'm taking on downstairs-O. You're gonna lose. Actually, he does not have that good of a team. But he has the best record. I know, it's crazy. He must have played some really crappy V-Bowl. Justin: He played the schedule that he got. Jake: Weird two-week playoff bracket. So you played two weeks in a row in the same... Team, same game. Week 14, 15, so I'm kind of, I like it because it means that you can have a bad week and then have a good week. Yeah, come back. Right, so we'll see. You and I might not meet again. We may not, I hope we do. I hope we do too. Justin: But last year when we met in the playoffs and I beat you, that was fantastic. So I look forward to doing that. Jake: I think we split though, I've won one and then you won by more in the second one. Justin: Yeah, and then last year when I won the championship. Remember that when I won the championship? I remember when you won the championship. As long as you remember. Yes, I do remember. Let's do the pick'em.

24:00 Justin: What is the pick'em? Tell the people. Jake: Oh, the pick'em is every week on the Yahoo Fantasy Pro Football Pick'em site. We have a league of people, of 30 so people, who we play against. Picking the games with the spread. We leave out the AFC East because we do that in a section called Throne Picks where we actually give it a little bit more thought. And we also... give the games. So this week we're starting with, well let's see how you did last week, first of all, how'd we do? Who's in the running? Last week I had a whopping six. Last week you had six and I had a whopping seven. It's terrible. I'm not in the positive. I'm a little upset. I'm like not in the positive. You're not over 500. Not over 500. Justin: I'm definitely not. I'm having a very bad year. Jake: I am. 19 games behind the leader. You're not catching the leader. Who is the leader? Justin: The leader is the Staten Island Stapes. Wow, trying to make it back into the fantasy football league. Yes, he is. The only way to get in. Jake: It's the automatic bid. So there you go. If you are the winner of the Jekken and Pickham, you do get to, if you want to be in the fantasy football league. So that's the one way to get in. Justin: I'm sure the Stapes would like that. would like that. So how'd you do last night with that Jacksonville game? I thought we were gonna Jake: podcast yesterday so I waited to make my picks on the podcast and someone changed the podcast Justin: date. Excuses, excuses. We were supposed to podcast Wednesday first of all. There you go. So you had plenty of time between Wednesday and yesterday. I was gonna make the picks. Today's Friday by the way. Jake: I would have picked Jacksonville maybe as the commission I'll go in and make myself. No, Justin: I don't think so. So I picked Jacksonville so I picked up a game on you already. Yes, you have to have three games behind. Let's go ahead. I'll be good if I beat you. Yeah, I pick Jacksonville's the home Home underdog. Home dogs. They're like a good home dog. Hey, they won three or four. They are screwing themselves out of that first pick. They totally are. So stupid and they let their division rival Houston sort of pass and then fire the coach and pass them by for that for that number one pick. Are they gonna have um Wade Phillips be the coach now? That's just a guarantee for losses. They're just like, No, he's gonna probably win the next four games. Wade's terrible. He is terrible, but he wins. That's why they're giving it to him, because they want that first pick. He'll be fired at the end of the season. It's terrible. He'll go coach defense somehow. Jake: So you think it's fair to fire a kubiak for the... Justin: No, I don't think so. I would just, at this point, four games left. Let it ride. I like the meat season for it. I like it because I can start looking. What's the point? Jake: Because then everybody who's looking, you can start the interviews faster. You get four weeks of head start. We can't interview anybody right now. Yes you can. We can hire people who are out. The Grudins or whatever. I guess, but whatever. I like it. Alright, let's go. Justin: I would pick Jacksonville. Well, you would have, but you didn't. I did. So, too bad. Jake: Let's go. We're starting with... We're almost coming up on Saturday games, right? I'm not gonna lie. Justin: I think there's only one week of Saturday games I think. Jake: By the way, let's talk first of all about our playoff predictions. Justin: Our playoff predictions? Why are we doing that now? Jake: Our Super Bowl predictions.

27:00 Justin: Oh, mine are terrible. Jake: Atlanta, Houston. Justin: I meant to say top two draft picks. Because I if anyone would have guessed used in Atlanta for top two draft picks they would have been wrong But I was right. I was right there. It's not what you just a microcosm of my season is picking pretty much All right, really good games really good slate this week. I think there's like five or six We're gonna be at yeah, that's not one of them There's a lot of games that have a lot of playoff meaning so and this is one of them Cincinnati is hosting Indianapolis Cincinnati favored by six and a half points and it's gone up and up and up And I like them. I like the Bengals. I've liked them all year. I picked them to win that division I like Browns. I did like the Browns, but then they decided to stop and the Falcons and the Falcons and Jake: I'm taking Cincinnati in this game. Sorry Cincinnati. I'm sorry. He likes you because Who are you picking? Come on. I'm gonna pick Indy because you like Cincy. Okay, you're just gonna go opposite me? Justin: No, I picked I think it's too much. The spread's too big. There's no spread here. It's Green Bay hosting Atlanta I guess there's no spread cuz maybe Aaron Rodgers gonna play Rodgers. I don't think it matters. It I'm I I'm gonna pick Green Bay at home. I don't actually think it matters. Green Jake: Green Bay at home take it every day two days. I'm just gonna mentioniasco real quick Justin: I know we skip the Skipping it all right fine. I'll Jake: I like Detroit. Give me Detroit on the road. I'm not... I still don't know why, but I don't believe in Philly yet. Maybe it's just I feel like they're ready for a collapse. You can't have a kid like throw 19 touchdowns in zero picks. Oh my god. He's doing great. You can't. He's gonna have a game. Justin: He's blowing a Tom Brady. He's gonna have a game. He's having a good run. He has a good run. That run will end. They're 5-1 with him as a starter. He's looking... I don't think it's what Chip Kelly envisioned when he took it over like Nick Foles would be the guy He's more of a Michael Vick guy, but hey, it's working. Well, they also got the guy from USC Mark Lee well, he was never gonna be in the mix You actually start when you have Michael Vick and Nick Foles They drafted him in the fourth round fifth round and he was never in the mix All right, Tampa is gonna skip that game. Kansas City, you throw me off. Still a one o'clock. It's like a professional thing. Like professionals would do this better. Kansas City is going to Washington. Kansas City on a three game slide. I think they break it here. Washington is awful. Washington's terrible.

30:00 Justin: They're the second worst team in the league. They don't even have their draft pick. So right now St. Louis would be picking second overall. This was part of the RG3 mega package. They don't have a pick. Good job. Kansas City only needs to hand the ball off. You're not letting me... There you are. I didn't say the spread. I didn't say who I was picking. Let me get through my thing, okay? Jake: You wanna mention the building? Kansas City, yeah. Kansas City... What's the Patriot spread? It's off. Okay. Justin: Kansas City is favored by three on the road. I will take Kansas City. You've already said that piece. Jake: So now you're just repeating yourself. Who do you take? I think Kansas City... I just think they could hand the ball off the entire game and win. I think I don't think Alex Smith has to throw a ball to win this game. Justin: And if you wanted to, he could probably throw for 300 yard. Washington's defense is just miserable. They're terrible. And their offense is no better. Give me Kansas City. All right. Baltimore hosting Minnesota and it's six and a half. And I like that it went down to six and a half. It was seven. Um, Minnesota is no good. They should be losing also at this point. Like there are teams that are fighting for the playoffs and there's teams that should be losing and Minnesota is one of those teams that should be losing. So I'm going to take Baltimore and, uh, lay the six and a half Baltimore at home, taking it. All right. Jake: Four o'clock. Denver how many fours we have four four fours. All right. I'm happy. I think four is fours a good number Justin: I have five that we have one four oh five and then three four twenty fives, which is actually nice that they're staggered like that It's odd that Denver's in the four oh five, which means it's not national Denver is hosting Tennessee and giving twelve. I think it's a little much. So I'm gonna take Tennessee I think 12 is too much. Jake: Tensies actually have an okay defense. Yeah, they're halfway decent. Denver's gonna, they're gonna have a couple downer games. This is gonna be one of them. When it gets cold. That's right, except for when he throws five touchdowns. It wasn't that cold last week. Justin: In KC, 32 degrees. Arizona is hosting St. Louis. Uh, two surprise teams, um, in the West and Arizona is giving six and a half. And I think that's just a tad too much for Carson Palmer to be laying. St. Jake: Louis, the Rams on the road are no good. I'll take, take the Zona, Adahoma. Justin: Um, San Diego is hosting the giants. Jake: The New York actually worse than the Jets Giants. Yeah. Justin: And San Diego favored by three. I like the Giants here. I'm going to take the Giants. San Diego's weird team. So are the Giants. So I'm just going to take the points, really. I don't know how to handicap either of these. I don't know how to handicap anything, to be honest with you. Jake: I just feel like if Giants are going to lose, they lose by a lot. So if they're gonna lose, they're gonna lose like by like seven to 10 to 20. It's gonna be one of those UI games. So I think they're gonna lose. Justin: I think San Diego is gonna win by a lot. Game of the week.

33:00 Justin: As a matter of fact, starting right now, 425. This has got to be the national game. Then there's the Sunday night game in the Monday night. All three are good games. I don't know if the Monday night is a good game. That's a good game. Why? Because there are two teams fighting for the playoffs and they're fun teams to watch. Jake: So San Francisco this is the 425 national I feel like Tiny tiny tiny amount of points. I don't know. I don't understand it Seattle just just took well San Francisco's favored you understand Justin: Right. I understand so two and a half being a tiny tiny amount of points. It's actually not from the Jake: They're favored by two and a half, but they're at home I don't understand why Seattle isn't favored in this game. They're a better team. They just destroyed the Saints I don't understand why they're not given like they're not. That they're not favored. Yes, I mean they're favored by a half point in this. That's what they're saying. Well they're not favored at all. They're actually underdogs. I understand, but it's a three point at home. San Francisco's at home. Justin: Well the number is the number. So they're getting points. Jake: Right, but you take little spreads. Don't argue with me, because you know I'm right. No, you're wrong. In typical spreads, what are you giving for being at home? Typical spreads. Justin: You're typically three point favorite. If the teams are even. Jake: This is saying that the Seattle is a half point making it come down from the three point being at home for San Francisco. Which I feel like Seattle is a much, much better team and I don't understand why it's only a half. Do you understand what I'm saying? Sure. Justin: You think Seattle should be favored? I think Seattle should be favored. Then you should be taking Seattle. Okay. Sunday night, New Orleans at home mad. Coming off a bad loss. Hosting Carolina. New Orleans favored by three. I like Carolina. New Orleans coming off a short week. Couldn't fly out Monday night had to fly back Tuesday. They had problems with the flight It's a really short week. I like Carolina Here's lines on a roll here and they're playing for that division Jake: They want that division but here's the thing if our Carolina you need to lose the game before you get to the playoffs Justin: They're on a street. This is not the game to lose that isn't not the vision game Jake: You're not coming you're not coming into Breeze House with a mad breeze getting all breezed up. You got games to lose if you want later. This is not the one. This is the game. They're not winning this game. Carolina is not winning this game. Justin: Well, they don't have to. They just have to lose by two. New Orleans, I'm picking them. Okay. And then Monday night, I think this is a good game. Chicago's hosting Dallas. Chicago's favored by one point. I like Chicago at home. This is typically about

36:00 Justin: the time when Dallas starts to fumble a little bit, particularly in the prime time. Romo's never been a very good December prime time player. So I like Chicago here fighting for their lives in that division. Dallas will know whether Philly won or lost and know what they'll have to do. I think Philly's gonna win, so I think that pressure will get to them even more. So you still think Chicago is gonna win? I do. I think they're good enough to beat them. Their offense should be able to put up points. Their defense is terrible. So is Dallas's. Yeah. Jake: This could be like 35-32. Absolutely. Justin: I'll take Dallas in a shootout. Yeah, I see the shootout. I'm with you there. All right, let's get to the ball last it might be It could be that Romo has the ball last and he but fumbles it he hasn't done that this year Yeah, that's cuz it hasn't been December yet. Okay, so now it's December. He can do it first game in December All right Yes, he did do it against Denver. He had that 500-yard game and then he but fumbled the end of the game I'll eat through an ant typical Romo. All right, so Cleveland at New England no line in our in our pick them this line is off I think the lines I seen it somewhere else at 13 It's cuz they don't know who the quarterback is gonna be for Cleveland. They all have concussions Um, you know, we wouldn't as a concussion give one for third round peg. They picked up some dude Caleb Haney the guy who came in for Cutler in that NFC Championship game. Yes I was they picked him up this this week cuz they needed a body I don't see how New England doesn't win this game by a lot. I got it 31 10 Yeah, is New England just Rounding right into form at the right time or what they really are. God. I hate them They've got the weapons back. What ever there no one's no one's hurt Oh, they love wolf work for the same their defense is hurting Jake: run all day long on them if you want. So I'm writing there with 10. 2710 New England. All right. I'm reading it from the way I'm reading it, because of the way it's set up. Yeah, good reading comprehension. Justin: All right, Buffalo's going to Tampa. Well, now you can mention the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo's going to Tampa. Tampa's favored by 2 1�2. I think Tampa's got a little something going here. I think they're behind their guy. I think their quarterback is two rookie quarterbacks. I think their quarterback is pretty decent. He's Formidable he could throw the ball Stands in there. He's tall

39:01 Justin: He's got guys that get good hair guys to throw the ball, too They have a running game Even though they don't have their top runners, but they have a running game Two pretty decent defenses. I think it'll be a low scoring affair. I've Tampa covering and winning 1713 because the Bills play close games, but they lose on the road I'm not a great road team those bills. I think for all those reasons Jake: I don't know, I was down in Tampa Bay this year, I saw them play live. I think it'll be close. I'll give it Tampa Bay 20-17. They win that game. That was the first game they won against the Dolphins, who then we couldn't win against. The worst team in the league, who hadn't won a game all season. Justin: Tampa got unlucky, because in all reality they should have beaten us. And they had us a 15 yard penalty on the sideline there. And that's like, uh, that's a little weird. You know what I mean? Um, anyway, moving right along. I mean, if see East, we have Miami at Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh is home and favored by three points. I like Pittsburgh to win this game. Miami is while they beat us up a little bit, they're not that good. I think Pittsburgh is pretty decent. Um, and I think that their defenses is going to be able to shut Miami down. So I like them 24 10 and we want them to win, right? Jake: We want Pittsburgh to win this game. Yeah. Justin: I mean, it doesn't matter. Both of these teams beating us, but we do want the dolphins at six and six to lose this game. Jake: Pittsburgh. 28 dolphins 17. I think I think Miami dolphins just blew their load by beating us 23 at 3 Justin: Again wasn't that big of a load? It's not a very impressive load No, but it's it's being the Jets your huge arch rival in their house. No Peter North. Yeah Jake: I'm yes. I know the name of a porn star Justin: Yeah, I'm famous for his loads. Yes, you've taken Richard as Richard Chris. He shoots ropes And you brought this podcast down to another podcast not rated it's explicit. Um, we just got more yeah Jake: Big Ben shines when on the line. I feel like this is the Mike Wallace, you know, it's the Mike Wallace coming home. He does. He's gonna get crazy. They're gonna do everything they can to stop him from winning. So, all right. Justin: Moving right along to the game of the moment. It's the game of the hour. Game of the hour. Game of the minute. The worst game ever. Oakland finally comes to New York. I feel like we've gone to Oakland like through the the 2000s. I feel like we went to Oakland like four straight years or something like that.

42:00 Justin: Anyway, we're playing Oakland. I just watched Oakland play on Thanksgiving. They're not very good. Terrible. They have A lot of no name dudes who just do stuff like Rod Streeter and like some guy named Holmes not San Antonio but he also wears like number 10 or weird numbers they got a lot of like receivers who wear like number 10 and 11 and 18 of those guys you know um they can run the ball but that's okay because that's our strength right And they got Matt McGloin as a quarterback who we should get to and disrupt because we generally do that. I don't think we sacked Tannehill more than twice. Once I think we got him. But we got... Jake: He's been sacked the most in the season. I don't know why he's been sacked the most in the season with missing pieces in his offensive line. I couldn't get there. Justin: We just weren't getting there. I don't know. We made Tannehill look good, boy. He had 300 something yards. He had a couple touchdowns. He had the bat. Well, on the interception, that was pressure. Mo Wilk was a hit him and it just flew up in the air. So that's not a sack, but that's that's a turnover as a result of a big quarterback pressure and a hit. So what's the key to the castle of beat these fuckers? No turnovers. I feel like that's That's it, like just don't turn the ball over. So they shouldn't be able to score and like a little nudge. Like they shouldn't be R Jake: I want this to be the game that the Jets have, that no one's ever played in the ever in the history of the NFL Never throw a ball. Never throw a ball. Never throw a ball. Just see if you can try to run the ball You were asking me about that the other day. Yes, I want that to be this game. I want to make a, I want to make history Justin: Never throw. I don't want to throw. All right. All runs. All reverses, wildcats, whatever, handoffs, options That's right single T double reverse. Jake: That's right. Pitch and you're just literally going to get to the point. Maybe, maybe someone throws the ball, but it's in one of the trick plays that it's Justin: like, they should just start running the option. Like let's just get someone out there who runs the option. Just get the option going. I mean, I have the jets winning. I actually have a winning day. Jake: I don't understand how you, how are they going to score that many points? I don't know. I don't know. Justin: They've done it before. That's like, that's like. four games for the points that you just put there. I feel like Oakland's the type, they're pansies. We could put it on Oakland. I don't know why, I just feel like we're gonna score. 26-13, don't ask why. We haven't scored 26 in three weeks combined, but I just feel like we're gonna score. Jake: So tell me, is it Matt Sims or Geno Smith?

45:02 Jake: It's Geno actually. Has 26 on Geno? Justin: Yeah, maybe a defensive score. She haven't had a lot of fun with it. It's Matt McGloin. I mean, come on. Matt McGloin. His name is terrible. Guy's a McGloin. He's a- McGloin. I mean, come on. You're a McGloin. You can't win. You're a McGloin. I watched him play on Thanksgiving. He looks alright, but he was playing Dallas, and their defense is terrible, so. Jake: Alright, the key of the castle to this is... Honestly, it's the same as it was against the Dolphins, except for it just blew up in somehow just just can't read the field, he can't read the defense, he can't... in some games, he's on this downward spiral. Is this going to be the game that Geno Smith just stands up and like makes us all believe again? No. Um, I don't think he'll get pulled, I think they will run the ball. If Geno passes more than 15 yards, I'll be... I mean 15 times. More than 15 passes. Completions, I'll be more... I'll be very, very surprised. This is going to be an old school Rex Ryan game plan. Run, run, run. That's it. Run again. And then keep repeating and then pin them down at the three and then get a fact for fumble and then run it in. And then you're going to get the seven, seven zero. And you're just going to keep doing that. And then you're going to keep two field goals. And you're going to call it a day. So I'm calling it just 13. Oakland with their good kicker who's 14,700 years old, nine jets win. So what are the playoff implications? We just need a lot of things to happen. Same thing, we gotta have like thousand people to lose. Justin: I'm not really certain we can actually make it although they keep putting us up there in the graphic which means we're not mathematically eliminated. How about this? Win every game we play well, that's worry about the other shit later If we win the next three we look up in the last week Which is right and we say all right what needs to happen because at that point you'll know what actually needs to happen I mean, obviously I think we need to win 10 out. Yes. Yes, I don't think I feel like 10 is gonna be the number. Jake: We have to win out. Justin: You can be a 10. Can we be 10? We can get to 10. No, we can't. Can we get to 10? 9 and 9. I feel like 10's the number, one of those teams that has... Well, maybe it will be 9, because I think the Dolphins and the Ravens the Ravens are the only ones who are 6 and 6. Kansas City's nine and three, but they've lost three. All right. They're not. They're not. Kansas City's not going to lose seven straight games. I can't see them going down to nine and seven. Just can't see it happening. Um, I think Baltimore is the team that's going to make the playoffs.

48:03 Justin: They're, they're just, they're just experienced and doing this. and winning culture will just get them over the top. That's my guess. Jake: Well, that's it for us. We'll be back next week. I also wanted to remind you all, and I'm going to tell you on the podcast, because I don't think you've even noticed, which is actually a symptom of it true. So the website www.checkinum.com has been down. Oh, has it? For about two weeks. Two weeks! See? No kidding. Yeah. Justin: We don't even go to our own website. Jake: Well, we had a spam attack. It blew- It blew up the database. Ooh. I tried to recover it. Justin: That sounds geeky. Jake: Yep. Justin: And, but, but say, we're gonna- Does JetKingdom.com even exist anymore? Like does it have to? That's what I'm going to ask. Are we having this conversation on the podcast? We're basically having this conversation. Jake: We exist more in the Twitter, in the Facebook, in the Google Plus, and on the IT. It's a podcast. Justin: We really need a website. This is like a shift. This is a shift. Because back in the day. Jake: So we either have to make some pay to rebuild it, build the new one. Or just say it's on a website and pointcheckhim.com to like Facebook page or something. Yeah, so we'll think about it. Justin: Let's think about that. It might not come back. It may never come back. All those articles you wrote? We didn't write that many articles. You wrote a couple. Jake: And where does everybody get the podcast? You get it from the internet. You get it from the iTunes. You get it from Twitter. You get it from Facebook. You get it from your podcast player on your phone. Yeah, I don't think you actually need the website anymore. Justin: I don't think we do either. All right. So there you go. Maybe we just decided that. Jake: We just decided it. But we still have the domain, so you self-send an email to podcast at jimjackkim.com. We'll still keep the... the domain was maybe pointed somewhere. Yeah, we'll point it somewhere. Maybe just like a landing Justin: page or something that has like a list of the podcasts. Or the Facebook page. Facebook page. Jake: All right, there you go. So it has been decided. All right, we'll see you next week. Maybe on Monday if we win. Let's hope so. Until then, as always, Jake and Justin saying... Go Japs!