Oh Carolina

Opening

Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women. The best place to be is when expectations are high.

Transcript

Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=0 @ 28.1s → Jake; other-primary cluster=1 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Jason-ref Jake cluster 0 sim=0.38; WEAK clustering: dominant speaker share 92% (labels kept: host=Jake).

00:13 Jake: Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Can't wait! Justin: Welcome to the Jekyll and the Badgast. Jake: I'm Jake. This is the longest running New Year's just podcast ever. He's Justin. Whoa. We are breaking it up. New World. Why? Fuck it. Why are we doing this? I don't know. What was that voice? Welcome. Welcome. In a world. In a world with three games to make the plan. And other games. Alright, we got a big agenda, agenda, agenda, agenda here today. We have the game recap, the Jets vs. the Raiders. I cannot wait to assign the night of the game. We have some injuries to discuss that came out of the game, and then we have the news, what we call in other kingdoms. crazy week of football I'll talk a little bit about the jet kingdom fantasy week although there's not really much that's going on because it's boy one of the two week playoffs or Yes, and then we got our week 15 kingdom pick them throne pick And then we get to talk about of the millennium And we'll make our keys of the castle for beating the Panthers this week Let's get to it and let's talk about last week. First of all, apologize for what? For not doing podcasts on Monday. That's not my fault. It's your fault. I could have done one on Monday. Probably could have, but we hate you all, so stop listening. Just download. Don't listen. Alright, we love you. Nice at all. So... Did we I went to- It's not a bad idea, but it's a good idea. so that we can win the games. Because that's what works. We do what works. I actually like having a little bit more space. Yeah, that's nice and spacious. Especially when you're bundled up like that.

03:00 Jake: Because it works cool. Although having a body next to you wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I like share the warmth a little bit. I guess, that's true. But the guy is next to me, the douchebag's next to me, haven't shown up all season. There's nobody next to us. We could sprawl out. It's funny, we just sit in the same damn seats. Yeah, they're on nine ish nine a little after nine. Yeah Good time to get there got her spot eats food, but enough about the tailgate. Let's talk about the game So we won. That's good news 3727 I was the most impressive win in the universe Gave up 27 points to Matt McGloin and the Raiders Yeah, you kept yelling that that was annoying. It was so much fun to scream We give up 24 points in the second half we don't do that often oftentimes we We lock it down in the second half. Yeah, I was expecting to win like 37 3 or 37.10 but a couple broken plays you know two that run the run bad this is the second week in a row that the teams rushed for over a hundred on us they bench snacks they bench snacks he benched him Really? Pull him out. Was he hurt? He just pulled him out. He's like, enough of you. We're going with Alice. Alice? Yep. That's interesting. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Well, Marcel Rees, who everyone's painting as this fourth string fullback. I don't... First off, he's not a fourth string. It's third string. Right? So, like... McFadden's the starter Jennings is the backup and then Marcel, Reese, but Everyone should stop pretending like they've never seen this before like this guy has Consistently been overlooked by the Raiders, but he's a really good player he last year when he stepped in and McFadden went down and My goodson went down guess who was the third string Marcel Reese and guess we did a string of hundred yard games, right? and a bunch of catches and just being a productive offensive player. He ran for a buck 23. He did have a 63 yard run where if you take that away, which really shouldn't have been a 63 yard run, he's been 10 yards, he's under 100. How he outran like three guys. Safeties and corners? Well, a little beyond me. So I watched the play again. So I rewatched the... We just had bad angles on them? It was bad angles and basically the guy who could have caught him was Milner. But like the two slow guys were in front of him and Milner was trying to get to him.

06:03 Jake: And like they literally blocked him. But one of them was Crow. Crow is not healthy. I think Crow is not fast. I'm not healthy. No, so here's my take on this game. First of all, there are games you win and you feel like you lost. I feel like we lost. Really? Yeah, because I just, I look at this team, they were with this, nobody was on this team. There's no reason for this team to be able to do anything and that they just blew us up in points. We win because, hey, listen, the offense stood up for the first time in all time. The special teams was great. But when the when the core of your team kind of like shits the bed, you just feel like, oh, man, you're going to have those games once in a while. Yeah, but it's a little disappointing for for two weeks in a row to see the running. The other team be able to run because that hasn't happened all year. I think they'll fix that this week. But let's look but they you know, they they did win this game. This I did feel satisfied at the end. There was a little bit of a bad taste in the mouth because, you know, there was there was, you know, we gave up 27 points. But in reality, I never felt like we were going to lose this game ever. I was sitting there from the start of the game. We went up 10 nothing. We scored on our first drive. It was a good drive. Yeah, we scored 10 points. We scored a touchdown. Gino threw for a touchdown in the first quarter. It felt good. We're up 10-0. And never did I feel like the game was even in doubt from there. That's true. But it was really disappointing just to watch them kind of stay in this game. I would have loved to see them just rush though. Yeah, a blowout would have been nice. We won by 10. We probably could have won by 17. 20. Could have won by 20 maybe. But you know... So... Positives, I mean, here we are on the roller coaster that is called Geno Ride and runs like he only threw one interception. No, it's good. But he could have thrown three. He could have thrown three. He could have easily thrown more. I watch shouldn't have thrown the one he threw. And I want to see a clean game already. I want to recap and like. I think the disappointing piece is that the thing that he's getting, the throwing, the one he threw for Touchdown, that was not what it was supposed to be. It was a road to Curly? It was not a road to Curly. Was it for Holmes who was behind? Yes, it was. It was just well under thrown? Well under thrown and Curly made a play. And great. And again, that happens. Hey, that's the difference between sometimes... But this guy dropped. There was a guy who caught a interception. Oh yeah, there was an interception dropped. Right before the interception and he dropped it. And there was another one. The pass to Winslow, I think, went right through a Raiders hand. One of the passes to Winslow went right through somebody's hands. I didn't watch it on TV, but just from watching in the game, I remember that play being big. But we've talked, we talked all last year about it with Sanchez. It's like sometimes if you have no weapons, guys aren't making plays. If you're Matt Stafford and you can't throw the ball into four guys and have one guy come up with it, you don't look as good. Yeah. So for Gino, if you can't just chuck that ball into the end zone and have Curly, who's better than guy off the street, jump up and make a catch, right?

09:03 Jake: You don't have a touchdown catch. You have either an incompletion or an interception or a sack or something. You don't even want to throw that ball up there. So having Holmes and Curly in that corner as opposed to Salas and Nelson, right? It's like, all right, I'll chuck this ball in the corner of the end zone. Hopefully my guy comes up with it and he did listen sometimes. It's the weapon sometimes. It's the player that is surrounded by the weapons It's a little mix of both what he did that I liked and then I'm a little again I'm excited to see an up edge if we would we'd actually see two good weeks in a row I'd be very happy, but is I felt like he had a a good the clock in his head that said to fucking start running was ticking. And he would get the ball and he'd go, oh, time to fucking start running. And he'd just fucking run. And ran for 50 yards. And it, right, and that's not his game, but it works, it works enough. Yeah, one was the scramble for 32 and the rest were, I think, designed. The touchdown run was designed. That was a read option. He read it correctly and ran it in. So it was nice to see. a couple wrinkles you were getting on Marty last week in Marty I trust I don't get on him but he did a little muddle huddling yep little no it helped with it helped with the um the defense uh or the helped with the offensive line because they were keeping the defense from like setting up and just teeing off on on Gino and I think we ran the ball well you know they ran for buck 50 we ran for 143 you know again Gino for 50 of it um Ivory I think you said at the game. I agree completely the more I see the more I like yeah He if he can just be healthy He's never like played a full season, but if he could just stay healthy and play a full season I'm just not sure his style lends itself to no easy. He's just fucking crazy man We're people the whole time. He's like you will not tackle me. You will not tackle me. You will not tackle me That's why he fumbled because he's trying to not go down. But he's gonna fumble more. I mean, this guy's gonna fumble more because that's his style. Because he's not going down. Right, and he's just like, I'm gonna keep, and it works, I mean, you watch one, two, three guys try to tackle him and he's just, he won't go down. His yards after contact has to be amongst the top 10. I'm sure of his 76 yards, it was 72. We're after you. I don't know where I'm sure that there's a stat site that I can find like his yards after contact because His it has to be after the first guy touches him You know, he he definitely You know, he definitely just keeps going Yeah, like they have yak for for receptions, but I want to see yards after contact for for a running back because One guy's not bringing him down and he laid the smackdown on one of those blocks. Yeah on a blitzer Oh knocked him out again out of the game. That's a physical runner right there boy I like it and and just watching and again I was very I was paying attention to in the recap us paint if between his runs and and Blouse runs And they were just, they're not even close.

12:01 Jake: Like one guy's like kind of a finesse, like got some speed. And- and the guy's just like, I'm going to fucking kill anybody in front of me until you die. And it's like, so I can totally see why we've said in games, like we've said, oh, why they get, why they putting an Ivory? Why is that? You know, Ball had this great, no. Now I don't know why. I want Ivory. I really want to see like the Ivory goods in. combination. I would have been nice. We saw it for a. A game. What good. And. It was his first game back. Yeah. You saw a little flashes of speed. Yeah. Yeah. It's real speed outside speed. Would be interesting for next year if we actually get that guy. Now speed with with screenplays and like the ability to actually catch the ball. Like I really can't catch the ball. You throw it at him and hits him in the chest like it just falls on the ground. So. Anyway, I feel like a good offensive game, not a good defensive game. Can I ask you a question? You can ask me. Because you had a comment and I've been thinking about it. You can ask me as many questions as you want. Well, you're an expert. I make comments, there are sometimes opinions, sometimes facts. Well, I want you, you mentioned something. I'm giving you credit, so don't fucking shit on it. I'm not gonna shit on it. So you had a good comment during the game, which I want you to expand upon on podcasts. I don't remember. It was the two minute drill was two minutes. Oh, yeah, that pissed me off. So talk about it So at the end of the half the jets are up 20 to 3 And I feel like they did They let previous game happenings sort of Change their philosophy on the fly, which I did not like they were up 20 to 3 They weren't getting the ball at the half. They were kicking off at the hat, right? So you're up 23 or 17 points. They got the ball back like at the two-minute warning With all three timeouts left. I don't know where maybe the 20 or the 10 or somewhere doesn't matter I mean look wasn't like it wasn't like the one yard. It's like the 20 or something. Hmm Where'd they get it? So they got it at their own 10, but with 153 left and three timeouts in their pocket, and a real team scores points there. You give that minute 53 to Peyton Manning. Now, of course, Peyton Manning. He's going to go down the field and score at least three points. and try. They're absolutely gonna try. You give Drew Brees, you give... Tom Brady, you give Andy Dalton, you give most teams their three time outs and the ball with the minute 53, they're trying to score, right? The Jets tried to get a first down, right? Now they did, which ran out the clock. That's what they were trying. Right. They're trying to escape the half 17 instead of going up 20. Right. or now I get it 17 three scores. Nice three scores at half. That's a nice place. No point to not try to score. You're going into half with three timeouts in your pocket. Right? Why not try now the reason why they didn't try it was because last week they tried. But in a much different circumstance. It was

15:02 Jake: like 40 seconds left. They couldn't run their full offense. It was like no, you got to go down down the field down the field. Right? With a minute 53 you can run your full no huddle offense. And from the 10, you kind of need to gain about 50 yards, maybe. You're basically saying I can't gain 50 yards in a minute, 53 with three timeouts. And if you can't do that, you can't win games. You can't win a game because imagine at the end of the game in the fourth quarter, you're down six and you get the ball to 50 after a punt. It's the same situation, right? You now have to go score a touchdown. You don't even have to score a touchdown. It's actually easier to get to like the 30 or the 35. Right. You got all that space behind it. Right. They really should have tried it. They let what happened. So they let what happened the week before change their philosophy on the fly. And they said, we're not going to let Gino throw an interception here. We're going to just get a first down. We're going to go out. and be up. Which I get from a point if you get the ball back. But your philosophy shouldn't change. Well, but if you're getting the ball back, you get, you're basically just, it doesn't matter because you're gonna get the ball back. But when you're giving them a chance to score, when they have a chance to score, when they come right out and they get the ball. And they did. You should be always going for it. And I just. Well, you don't have to always be going for it, but your intentions were already spelled out. But the week before, we're not arguing with each other. Yeah, I know. The week before, I went for it, which basically says, this is what we do in this situation. And then the next week they didn't. And it could have bit them in the ass, because the Raiders got the ball at the half, they come out. And that's the 63 yard run for Reese. They scored in less than in a minute, right? They cut the score from 2013 to 2010. And it's like, well, shit, that's why you should have at least tried to put up another three. Like, you know, you don't have to try and score touchdown and be nice, but try to go down the field. They ran the safest things you could possibly run just to get off the field than into the tunnel. And at this point, I think... Every I you know, maybe I'm just This isn't this year. This is about this guy and is this guy the guy and I want to see him do everything I want to see him jumping jacks I want to see him go up in the stands and raise the roof like I want to see him do all these things so We can have more to evaluate we as the team because I'm a team guy and say is this the guy for us because Really, a lot of people are like, really we got three more games to figure it out? That's it. Before we hit the draft, or when the playoffs, great, we go to the playoffs, then we're still going to have the draft. We're going to Super Bowl, we can evaluate in the Super Bowl.

18:02 Jake: No, I mean the point is we got three more games, with luck we have more than that, but I want to see him do stuff. , and if he can't do it now, then how are you even evaluate, if he can? I don't know. Anyways, a great point. I'm giving it to you. Let's move on. Let's make our night. So it sounds like we lost this game, but we didn't. We didn't. We won. We won. We won this game. It was great. Oh, you picked first. It was so cool. Alright. Um, it's gotta be an offensive player. And I'm gonna go ahead and give my night... Um... This is weird because he didn't do a whole lot from a statistical standpoint, but I'm gonna give my night to Jeremy Curley for being on the field. Well, have you seen the stats on him off the field versus... Oh, I haven't, but I watched the game so I know. No, I mean win lost. Like win lost him on and field off the game, off field is like, it's remarkable. Like, he hasn't played... Well, here's thing. He, he and Homes and Winslow haven't been on the field together since the start of week four So since week four there hasn't been a full complement of receivers And he still didn't have them all because Hill didn't play right. I'll didn't play I don't know if that matters or not I think it does Hill is as much as you don't like Hill He is still a presence and he is still someone who body but someone has to be covered Well, everyone has to be covered by at least one guy, right? That's all he really commands. But anyway, I think Curly's just being on the field brings a sense of, well, A, he's a playmaker. They can throw him in different situations and packages and do like reverse runs and things like that, and fakes. And he is very short-handed. He catches the ball if you throw it at him. So, and he's a good third down target. So I like I just like the fact that he was on the field. It's nice to see him back. He only had four catches for 41 yards. He did have the 25 yard touchdown, which was a really nice catch. So Jeremy Curley gets my night of the game, and then I'm going to do what you hate. And I'm going to make a play of the game, which is not made by my night, even though I could pick his touchdown catch. I'm thinking that Chris Ivory run, baby. That's a cold weather. That's a that's a that was a big boy run that run in the fourth quarter 15-yard rush got hit by like five guys and just kept trucking and just ran over dudes He was like you're not tackling me neither of you neither of you. Oh, you're gonna stand there. I'm gonna run through you touchdown. I mean you play the teams you play the teams you play but part of you wants to look at this game and go it was Oakland Raiders. They're a four and nine team. Sure. They're terrible. But we're six and seven. Yeah. So we're not better than we're not much better. All right. So my um my uh. It was your night. My night of the game is...I'm going to give you some stats so you can pick them out.

21:02 Jake: 6-3, 188, 23 years old, went to Boston College, first year experience, has been pretty much terrible all season and had a good game. Hmm. He is Ryan Quigley. Our punter. You're gonna make the punter the night of the game. Because I thought he had the best game he's had all season. He had two punts. Yep. And one of them he quickly kicked out at the two. Was it another one was a touch back? I'm giving him giving him. So you're you're the worst at this, by the way. You're the worst at nights and fools. You're really bad. No because I'm calling out someone who I'm like I've been on all season I've been seeing was terrible and he had a Game he did not he had two punts. I wanted twice. You know what? That's good on offense Yeah Have your punter what happened after when but it was the play that he punted that he punted them out the one then they end Them and then they threw a pick. Yeah, so I mean like that to me was a game-changing thing every pick-pick by the way Yeah, I was gonna pick Ed Reed made a play. I want Ed Reed to make He should have made a touchdown. There's no reason. He tried to jig and juke too much. Like, dude, you're too old to do that. Run straight. Um, and that was, you know, that was Ed Reed's first win of the year. That's crazy. Cause he didn't play in Houston's first couple of games and Houston hasn't won since week two, they were two and O and they hadn't once, they still haven't won since, and then when he joined the jets, we went on a three game losing streak. So he hasn't won a game. This was his first win of the season. Ed Reed has won one game this year. How crazy is that? It is super crazy. So what's your play of the game? That coffin corner pun. No. Good job. Pick the punter. Hey, how about you pick the GM again? Why isn't Izzik getting any credit for this? They did this one for Izzik. His father passed away. No, not the credit for him. The genome touchdown hit the sorry when he ran run the run I like that okay it you know I could maybe pick his long run and where he put his shoulder into the guy I got a good idea yelled at do that I know but it's so sort of nice don't does it no it's not all right well what about injuries so so chromartia has a concussion that that Collision yeah happened him and read him and I did and I was a weird play right that was not in alive It was like he didn't mean to throw that ball to that guy No, he didn't and our both of our players who are went for it and we was trying to pick They're both trying to get it right collided And it just sort of slipped through Istrier who ran for like a 60 yard There's no one there that that too broken plays. They scored on touchdowns. So kramarti got hit in the head. He's got a concussion He's really banged up this year. And is it just me? I I mean it's probably I don't want to see him play anymore. That's that's absurd Is it really for like get him off the a to want to see darren wall? He's not good And d milliner on the other side not ready. So no, but d milliner is

24:02 Jake: playing it's not like he's not ready not ready to like step up and be the number one the number doing he's just not physical no he's playing he's never been he's never been I don't know what you think you saw years past yeah he's never been a physical dude who's gonna hit ya no but he's a guy who could tackle and stay no you know what he could do he could stay with that's right I think he is injured I think his not stay with them really right so he's doesn't have the physicality you'd rather see some scrub You'd rather see these guys are not scrubs there, but you're putting in the guy is hurt So you're saying the guy is hurt is better than a per you want Darren walls You know what I want to see I know this crazy if he's not gonna play I know we like we the Jets like to have Kyle Wilson like in his spot in the slot, right? I actually think he does a really good job like you don't really hear a lot right slot receivers beating the Jets, right? Wilson does a nice job at that Um, why not throw him back. On the outside and see what he can do. Two first round picks, two first round corners. Throw him out there. Three sometimes. Anyway, Stephen Hilde and play with a knee. I don't think he's practicing. He was swelling and he was not practicing. He's not going to practice. I don't think he's going to play. I would like to see them play him as a. I don't think this guy's ever going to be anything. I just got a feeling. Yeah, doesn't have the pedigree. And you watch that. Do you watch that? Monday night game the Bears. No, don't talk about how fun Jeffree's I mean, both of them, Jeffrey and Marshall are just like, in another universe from this guy, he can't even get open. He can't even get off the line. Second year, give me give me one more year. And then we'll talk about okay, news. Geno still starting. Geno still starting. Oh, why would he not at this point, but And Reed got his first win, which I already mentioned. It's the Super Bowl stuff. Super Bowl lottery. So I want to say, because I was questioning this, so I just found the information, so I'm sharing it with our fans. I was questioning the, because I remember when I signed up as a season, taking hold of the New York football jacks. And I paid the PSL. One of the promises to the PSL owners was, when the Super Bowl comes to New York, which we knew at that point, it had been assigned. the Jets, any season Let's say 90,000.

27:29 Jake: Well, you're gonna do math. I'm gonna do that. 4 a hundred tickets. Okay. Times 2, 2,250 divided by on... 2,250 tickets. A lottery, it'll be done at the end of this month. Good luck. Good luck, man. I'm saying, good luck. I'm not saying I could actually win. So I'm kind of excited about that. So anyway, and then another news. Then you get to buy them for face value, right? Actually 500 bucks. That's what it is. So it's an upstairs ticket. I imagine I'm sure it's not such ticket 500 bucks the face values are 900 for the upstairs 1100 and you get to buy 500 2500. I think those are I think you get a discount But whatever those club seats must be like Absolutely. Yeah. Anyway, so... And no tailgating for all that money. Yeah. You don't get to tailgate. But there's... as I know, there's going to be just one massive party all the way around the stadium. But don't you think it'd be like kind of fun to tailgate? It would be fun, but it's not your team.., a and I'm not talking to you and I, I'm just saying like, what if it is your team? Wouldn't you want to tell me? You're- You're a Broncos, you're a fly-in, and you're gonna- Is there anything about the Broncos? I did. Broncos, Broncos Seahawks, so you're just picking two West Coast teams. No, what's the people who I picked because I think they're gonna be in the Super Bowl? Alright, well, whatever. Alright, let's talk about checking them out. Fancy League, we're in the playoffs. We both are. How did you do in week one if we were to look at the scoreboard? Uh, if we were to look at the scoreboard. I did okay. I... I... I'm playing Eric Nord. You're playing Eric Nord. And Crow is terrible and so is Eric. And you're winning by 12. I'm winning by 12. I like that. So you won this week 99 to 87. Yes. The way that the playoffs work. Four teams made the playoffs. And... the one seed plays the four seed and the two seed plays the three seed for two weeks and it's cumulative so you played eric week one which was week uh 14 right and then you'll play again week 15 next week and whoever has the high score Add it up between the two right wins that playoff round and you move on to the Super Bowl to this and I am the number four seed so I'm playing the number one seed bill nap and I am winning 100 to 79. Well, yeah, I have a 21 point cushion going into the second week So there is a chance that you and I could meet up in the final. At the moment, the projected totals

30:05 Jake: are looking that way, yes. So it has been projected at 2 play. So I guess it's projecting this next week. It's projecting the total. Mine is not. Yeah, it is. Mine is saying projection 99. Well, if you just go to the scoreboard your projected total is 198. And what's his? His is 225. Oh really? Yes. So he's projected to outscore me by 40 this week? Or whatever it is? He's projected to score a lot of points this week. Okay, great. Yep. Good luck to everybody, good luck Eric. Good luck to you Bill. Ha ha. I will enjoy beating you. So let's do, or just kingdom pick them. Let's do it. How did you do last week? I'm not good at adding it. You had your best week of the season. 9. I'll take 9. I know it was your best week. Mine was good. Literally your best. Oh wait, it was my best week too. That's terrible. You said you were just gonna go against me, but alright. Let's start off this week strong. We're picking against the spreads. Not gonna touch the AFC East, cause we'll come back to the AFC East. Oh, why don't we just stop for a moment before we do the pick-ups, stay in the AFC East, and spend one minute on the Patriots. But we'll talk about them in their matchup. i g g g g g- bask in the glory of Gronk just continuously getting into it. We're gonna talk about that team in the matchup. Alright, fine. We have a good Thursday night game. Oh yeah! We have a fun Thursday night game. Oh yeah. We have Denver hosting San Diego Thursday night. Denver is giving 10 and a half at home and I don't think that's enough they kind of score a lot of points at home they just scored 51 on a better defense than San Diego if you ask me so I like Denver and I'll lay the 10 and a half and they'll be done with that in the second quarter and they'll just roll yeah in Manning I trust I'm gonna go windy. I'm gonna go with San Diego. Okay, just to be ornery. All right One o'clock games Atlanta Atlanta's hosting Washington and this is kind of funny like Washington has announced Kirk Cousins is their starting quarterback They are sitting RG 3 that just made me pick that game easily So I'm picking Atlanta at home giving six and a half. I mean both teams Atlanta, to be honest, should try and actually lose this game. Washington should have no reason to try and lose because they don't have their pick. Right now they're sitting at the number two pick and it'd be St. Louis's for RG3 who's sitting on the bench. I think Shenan is trying to get fired to get paid. It's got $9 million. Probably work. Hey, the worst thing that happens here for them is cousins plays bad. The best thing that happens for them is cousins plays well.

33:00 Jake: They win some games. They don't look as bad with that draft pick and they can trade cousins. a la Kevin Cobb for like a King's Ransom, right? Cuz he's a young he's a young guy and he was a first he was the same same draft class Well, he's only a second second year player. I know they picked him in the fourth or fifth round I'm saying they picked the same year as our G3 last year. He's like a second year backup G3 so they're gonna showcase him for three weeks. I guess I'm still picking Atlanta six and a half I'll pick Washington cuz I he came in when our G2 was hurt and he played pretty good. He looks good when he plays. So I'm picking Washington to go into the like we're rallying behind the new guy. Washington's just terrible though. I think Atlanta's gonna put up tons of points. But Atlanta's not very good. Washington's defense is just so bad. I'll take 6 and a half thanks. Cleveland is hosting Chicago. Cleveland favored by one. I just watched Chicago. Their offense is... legit they can run they can throw it doesn't matter who the quarterback is McCown Cutler who gives a crap Chicago only hit one I'll take it yeah I don't understand that other than Cleveland had a like a stand-up against I don't get the line myself whatever I'm taking Chicago Cleveland should be tanking too just lose Indianapolis is hosting Houston, Indy's favored by five and a half. That is a low number and they don't trust India at all because I don't know, they're losing and they get off to bad starts, but Houston's terrible too. And they should be in tank mode at this point as well. And Wade Phillips is their coach. He's pretty awful. So I'm going to take Indy given the five and a half agreed. Probably shouldn't listen to me on any of these, by the way. All right. Still at one o'clock. Um, although there are five, four o'clock games this week, but one of them's the jets, so it kind of ruins it. Um, Philly is going to Minnesota. Philly's favored by four and a half on the road. Not sure if Adrian Pearson's going to play. It's looking like he's not. Um, they should probably shut him down for the year. Yep. Keep him healthy. Don't get him hurt. Cover over injury. just lose all these teams that have no chance to just keep losing. Philly indoors, that offense is just so good. They're going to be really good indoors on that turf. Give me Philly. Four and a half by the way, Philly. Yeah, I'm not liking all my picks because I'm picking with you. So I'm going to pick Philly as well. They look good, don't they? They look good and I think no AP no good. Yeah, I don't think he's playing. And I mean, Philly on a fast track, you saw what they did in eight inches of snow. I know. So like on a fast track, they should, they should be all over that. And yet they don't think that Michael Sean McCoy is going to do very good this week. Really? I don't see how he doesn't gain 150 yards. 32 points last week. Maybe Minnesota's run defense is good. Who knows? Uh, Seattle traveling all the way across the country, coming off of a loss. Playing at MetLife Stadium, which you'll be at this Giants game. So strange, strange but true, I'm going to try to go for the most games gone to as a fan.

36:03 Jake: I was like someone who actually played games. I think this will be my 11th game of the season. Because I did two away. This little and another Giants game and another yes 10 that's 12. So are we 12 total? Didn't we do a preseason? I don't count those but yes, we did but I don't count those So yeah 12 game two Giants of Seattle's coming to the Giants Seattle's gotta be angry. They just lost to the Niners. Yep They're giving seven This is a game that the Giants traditionally play really well and like they play up to their competition. I don't know if they're going to win, but I don't think they'll lose by seven either. And then odd, they'll lose in a fucked up way, like by a field goal or something at the end, but they're going to play this game close, I think, even though Seattle is a far better team than they are. I don't see any of that at all. I think they're going to wipe the floor. I still really trust Seattle on the road. I know that they're like better. Yeah, but I still don't really. trust them on the road. Like if I look, you know, if I I don't know why I'm fixated on this, but Seattle Road, right? They went to Carolina to open the season. They won 12-7. Right. Turns out that's pretty good win. But I don't think Carolina was the same team then. They only won by five. Okay, then they go to Houston. and they win by three. Then they go two. That was the pick six game. Remember they that they picked six at the end. Yep. They win by three. They go too indie, they lose. They go too... That was close game though. I remember that game. I watched it. Mm-hmm. Yep, they lost by six. They go to Arizona, they win handily. That's a good win. They go to St. Louis and they win by five. They only score 14 points. Okay, they go to Atlanta, they crush Atlanta. Okay, that's a good win there. Yeah, but I feel like they go to our they go to San Francisco they lose So like you know, they say this goes really good I'm giant some more like Atlanta than they are like I totally understand But the Giants have a way of doing this they kind of step up in these games I feel like they'll lose but not by seven Okay, mom record losing not by seven. What do you got? Yeah, obviously, okay San Francisco is traveling to Tampa San Francisco on the road Favored by five and a half. I like Tampa San Francisco coming off of this huge home rivalry big win game They're just gonna travel all the way across the country to Tampa and take them a little lightly and I like Tampa I think Tampa's playing well I think they've been playing a lot better as of late and they're playing like the team we kind of thought they were gonna be Now so I like Tampa I think this is the game that everybody realizes what Tampa is which is crappy and what and the 49ers are on their upswing They're gonna crush them. All right. I'll take San Francisco Let's go to four Kansas City at Oakland traditional rival game. I just watched Oakland play

39:03 Jake: I can't see Kansas City favored by four and a half. I can't see Kansas City losing They have nothing to play for I don't think it must have something. I don't think they have to win or Lose another game. I think they're in at five. They're the five seed. They're not catching Denver. They've lost to them twice Well, they can if Denver loses three games. That's not happening. Well, they can't we can't think like that I get it, but Denver wins one more game. Kansas City can't win their division, right? Kansas City also can't lose down to the sixth seed. They've already got 10 wins, right? Nobody else can get to 10 So they're kind of locked at five if you ask me. I Still think they win this game to sort of really lock that in and maybe depending on what happens Thursday night with Denver They have even more incentive, but I can't see them I can't see them a losing this game, and I can't see them winning it by less than a touchdown I just saw the Raiders. They're terrible. It's gonna be Kansas City agreed Dallas is hosting Green Bay no line on this game. I think it's cuz Roger Rogers is gonna try and play Dallas coming off a loss it is December Hmm, I have Dallas selected. I'm going to keep Dallas because I feel like Rogers isn't going to play. And I feel like Dallas can beat Green Bay if it is Mattie Flynn. Mattie Flynn who I think probably looked terrible last week. I don't know. I didn't watch the game. I talked to the Packers fan. We were at the Jets game during that game. But... Green Bay did win, but at home against Flynn. This is I'm picking against Flynn. If this, if, if this is going to remain off, cause this is the final line, I think. Oh no, it's not. Um, all right. If this remains off and then Rogers does end up playing, I'm going to come in here later and switch it. Um, all right. Arizona is going to Tennessee. Arizona is good. They're good. I just don't believe in them. They're really good. Don't believe in them. They have a good coach and they're good. I just don't believe in it. Tell me how they're good. What's their record? Well, they're in the best division in football. NFC West. Okay. And to me that's the best division in football. Right? Okay. You disagree? Yeah, maybe. San Francisco and Seattle in your division. Good luck. You got two great games. That's like having the Patriots. and the Patriots. Like not the Patriots and the Dolphins, but the Patriots and the Patriots. Oh wait, but they're both better than the Patriots. Right, I get it. So Arizona is eight and five. Are you saying that the 49ers and the Seattle Seahawks are better than the Patriots? I think they both are. Okay. I'd rather play the Pats than both of those teams. I'd rather play in New England than in Seattle that's for sure. I think the win-loss record I feel like the Patriots have more wins than 49ers. Well they're playing the AFC crap. Okay keep going. Move on. Look at the wild- we're still in the hunt for the wild card at 6 and 7. You're at 6 and 7 in that NFC. Go hit the skids.

42:01 Jake: You have no chance. The Arizona's 8 and 5 and they're not in the playoffs. Set balls. Keep going. 8 and 5. 5. By the in Tennessee. Give me Arizona. Good D. I'll take Tennessee. New Orleans, traveling to St. Louis. New Orleans wants to keep winning because they still have a shot at that number one seed. seed. They're obviously a much better home team, but they're going on the road to St. Louis. I don't think St. Louis is all that good. Another dome. I think they'll be able to run them up here. New Orleans favored by six. I like them to win by like 16 agreed. I like no one to win. All right. And then we have, I think, two entertaining prime time Sunday, Monday night games. I feel like these are good. Sunday night we have a nice division game. I mean Cincinnati at Pittsburgh. That's a good game Yeah, it's bird at night. That's tough and Cincinnati is you know, the better team But Cincinnati's favored in Pittsburgh at night No way. No way. No way points. They're favored by three. Give me Pittsburgh. I'll take that's bird That's not an easy place to play at night. Nope been there done that no good and even though they're not the same and Cincinnati's like the better team. I don't play the Cincinnati's the same. Well you know how are they the same? What was their? Well they are the number one they are winning that division. Yeah and what did they play last week? They are nine and four. Who did they play last week? They're nine and four. They lost last week right? No they crushed the Colts. Oh that's right they crushed the Colts. Crushed them. They're on a three game winning streak, okay? They beat Cleveland 41-20, division game. They then went out to San Diego, beat them, and then they beat Indy 42 to 28. So in their last three games, they scored 40 points twice. They're good. Remember what they did to us. They're a good team. So maybe they deserve that three point favorite thing, but on the road at night, in division, I don't know. Give me points. I will take the points. And then Monday night, I think we have a very entertaining game. We have Detroit. fighting for the playoffs and we have them hosting Baltimore who's fighting for the playoffs. They have two pretty desperate must-win teams here in week 15 with only three games left. They're gonna know also on Monday night what the deal is and what they need to do. You know Baltimore from a wild card perspective. Detroit from a division perspective. They'll see what Chicago's done. They'll see what Green Bay has done. Detroit's home, they're favored by six. And I like them. I like them at home, coming off a loss, pissed off that they got screwed by that weather, because that really screwed them up big time. They're not equipped for that. Reggie Bush gets hurt in like warmups or something.

45:00 Jake: So give me the Jets. Well, there's one really simple, this is a pick with your heart here, pick Detroit. Because if the Jets, Well, give me the Jets rooting for this week. So. We need to root against Baltimore and against Miami. Don't care about Cincy Pittsburgh. Cincy doesn't matter. Cincy to keep winning. May as well. They're going to win their division anyway, but we can't we can't catch them. Right. But couldn't but couldn't. Isn't it possible for us first to stealers to catch up to us? And then we do the Steelers. They could catch up to us, but I don't. if the Steelers caught up. I think they would have they would have to beat someone else because they're a game behind us right? They would really everyone that we would need to lose We'd still need to lose for the Steelers to get anywhere So it doesn't really matter if Baltimore wins and we lose this week. It's over. Well, we lose. That's actually it. Yeah If Baltimore wins, we lose. So it's we lose and then Baltimore wins. Whatever order you wanted. Well, good man. The two games are ours. Us in Carolina, Baltimore in Detroit. If they go the wrong way, both of them were out of the playoffs. Because at that point, there's two games left in the season. We'll be two games behind Baltimore and they will have beaten us head to head. They get the tiebreak. It's over. The other team who's ahead of us is the Dolphins. Now we play the Dolphins still, so we can actually have, we can still backdoor in there if the Dolphins win and we lose, we're not eliminated. But you know, we'll talk about this Dolphins game in a minute. Both teams, Baltimore and Miami, neither of them have a very favorable schedule. Those are the two teams that are really ahead of us. There's also San Diego in the mix. Basically become very big Pats fans in this couple weeks. Yeah, become a Pats fan because Miami basically plays the division. So Miami plays New England at home. They go to Buffalo. Not an easy place to play in December. Nope. For them particularly. Then they play us right? That's Miami. They're playing the division New England Buffalo Jets, so Lose lose lose hopefully now Baltimore is going to Detroit tough game. Hopefully this is New England at home Hopefully I'm gonna go home to Cincinnati now what we kind of really need is Cincinnati to step up there They may not need that game What we need is for them to Baltimore out of the playoffs by wearing that you always want to do that to your division rival especially coming off a Super Bowl win right so I think they're gonna want to win that game all of the The scenarios are doable folks. They're there there. We can do area. I want to hear jets have to win all three

48:03 Jake: That's it. We plays that trail. I don't think that's true. I think we can lose one I can we can we can win this one we can Loses one win the next two it's possible and then have dolphins and bait Baltimore both lose out. Yeah. Well, they have to lose out They don't want to lose Yeah, they have to lose out like all the last three games possible. It's unlikely We really want to win all three games is really you want to be on a four game winning streak heading in? Yeah, but I want to be at the top of our you know at the nailer team is San Diego and they're playing Denver this week in Denver not simple But then they have Oakland and then they have Kansas City in Kansas City, but they might, they might not need that game at all. I can't see Kansas City playing in that last week. So we really need San Diego to lose to Denver this week. Fall again behind us and have us win out. Right. That's the deal folks. We need to win out. All right. Let's go. Let's just talk about our throne picks. What are the throne picks, Justin? So we have New England in Miami. New England's favored by two and a half. New England They lost Gronk, I don't know if you heard yes, I don't really care ACL tear this dude is always hurt ACL MCL like Last year it was like fuck We have to deal with Gronk and Hernandez for 10 years and now it's like I don't feel like we have to deal with Either of them. It's like Gronk. All right, maybe you see him once a year He might not even be the same player next year who knows guys hurt Always always and Hernandez never playing again, so I like New England to win still I still think the pedigree is there. They just keep winning. It doesn't matter for them They still have Tom Brady remember him And I like him to win by three 2421 Yeah, I mean You know, I feel like Miami's a better team than we gave him credit fourth begin the season I think this is consecut irresist for their last five games. They like their coach. Yeah. They like their coach. When you watch the game. Maurice Jones Drew might not be able to beat Buffalo. Buffalo is giving two on the road.

51:00 Jake: I don't think Buffalo is that great on the road. I The maximum to win a squeaker is six. Not a lot of points, I don't think. Very, very close. 1713 Jacksonville. Yeah, I the game of what's it gonna be this is this is put up or shut up time right now so listen if you look at the history of our games when we play great teams we do well we have our crappy teams we're 3-0 against the NFC NFC South we're coming for you we beat Tampa we beat the Falcons We beat the Saints. Here we come Carolina in all your Carolinaness. Hey I watched them play last week. Yep. And um They look so good. They didn't look very good against the Saints. Yeah the Saints are good. Well we beat the Saints. I know it wasn't in New Orleans. It wasn't in New Orleans. But I was not impressed with their offense. and Drew Brees tore them to shreds. I know we don't have a Drew Brees on our team. No. Nor do we have a Jimmy Graham. No. Or Marcus Colston. Darren Sproles. Or Darren Sproles. Any of those guys. You know we do have? We have a Ryan. We have a Ryan. We have a Ryan. Our Ryan called their Ryan and said, hey buddy, you shut them down. How do we do that? What's the key? We gotta shut down Cam Newton. You know what? We've never played Cam Newton. Wait a minute, preseason. Have we? We did either this season or last season. Last season. I like our chances against the first time we play against quarterbacks. Is this the first time we can? Well, I feel like there's a thing. You can see stuff on tape, sure, but he disguises it and just catches you off guard, right? The more a quarterback plays against us, the more comfortable they feel, but the first time we see a guy, we typically have their number. That's just how I feel about it. For me, the key to the castle is we gotta get back to that. game stopping. Like this has been two games in a row where the offense is giving up a shit ton of yards and a shit ton on the frick a nd ground and that's not how to beat this team. You got to make Cam Newton beat you throwing the ball on third nates and third nines and try and make him make him beat you not let them you know run with d'Angelo Williams

54:14 Jake: It's a matter of tackling them once you get there, but stop that run. That's the key and Limit turnovers as always say it every fucking time but um, you know, we're getting 11 points here And I would throw that up on a bulletin board. Oh, yeah, like really like we had the land points Really Saints really loving points. Okay, okay We don't score a touchdown, but H, other than the dolphins who are always in my house and the jets I watch. And the ones who are on prime time, like the Panthers I watch and pay attention to because during Fantasyland I'm out now, but for 13 weeks I had the defense and Cam Nunes. I kind of watch this team a lot. And his running game is really, they're just going to spread it around a bunch of guys. This down this is about third and longs. This is what the way to get him because he doesn't have a lot of weapons. It's like Lofel and Steve Smith, who's you know, he's taking one step off the off the thing. And that's it and Olson I mean it's like I'm not scared of the guys Let's get into an you island out there and throw them on a little just I don't I'm not afraid of those guys And head again, and you're right you might run past them. Well, that's true He'll take that shot. So to me it's controlling Cam and his ability to get out of pocket. And if he can get out of pocket and run, and that's what I'm worried about these last couple weeks is our guys running on us as close. Because if he starts running on you, you're dead. You're just dead. He'll take 13, 14, 20, 20 yard chunks at a time. So Key of the Castles control him. I don't feel like we've played a player like him all year. We haven't played like Cam Light. 8. You know, we've played Ben Rolfosberg. That's true. But he doesn't run design. Right. He just doesn't get tackled. Right. Scrambles around. We played EJ manual twice. I feel like he's like kind of camera. Light ish. Yeah. But other than that, Campbell quarterbacks. Can feel comfortable in this mobile. Yeah. I mean, EJ manual is kind of mobile. Tana Hill's kind of in that mold, but he's not big Breeze is kind of mobile. He's just face paint

57:00 Jake: He's sneaky is all fun. It's like a big mobile. This is like this is like breeze plus plus Ben I feel like Ben Rolfes burger or like Andrew Luck is a lot like that. Yeah, but they design runs for him, right? like Alright, it's first and goal from the three, it's Cam. Yeah, you know it's Cam, and it's gonna go up and over you. It's like, fuck. So that's what it, I mean, you know, obviously on the offensive side of the ball, they have a great D, right? They have a really great D. And they get a lot of pressure. Well, a great front seven. And right, their pass defense is questionable. I would love to see us with a full set of, a full set of... you I'll take Curly and Holmes and I'll just go to Winslow because I don't think Hill's coming back. But that's the secret is to stop him. If you can stop him, then he'll start to make mistakes. He starts to make mistakes. Then you can capitalize off it. I predict a good Ed Reed game. I think he's back. He's ball-hocking. Two interceptions I'm predicting. Jets win 23. 20 so there are some touchdowns. I think we're gonna I think we're gonna figure out how to score some touchdowns now This is the one way to fucking win games. We got square touchdowns 2320 Jets win JT s s s we'll be back next week Hopefully with a win in a pocket until then Justin Jake Checking them, as always, Go Japs!