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00:19 Jake: Welcome to the Jet Kingdom Podcast, the longest running New York Jets podcast on the planet Earth. There's one on Mars. It's been going on for much longer. I am Jake joining me for 320 times in a row Justin Justin, how you doing? Hey Great Super awesome. This is this is why as a jet fan you sit there in August and you sit there like you don't I know the other shoe's gonna drop You just can feel it. You can just feel it as a Jess fan. It's like, it's gonna get bad. Oh, right. Yeah, right, right. It's gonna get bad. Anyway, so here we are in the bye week. So we're back. We took our bye after the Browns because That Monday Night Football really hurt my soul. Oh, that was the worst. It was left in the third quarter. That's and that never happened. We left after the Beckham big long touchdown and it was like, oh, they're down 20 with Luke Fock. Yeah, we're not winning. I mean, he'll give us a Fock. Literally. So yeah, it is extremely depressing to be on week three to go ahead and head into the bye and feeling like, feeling like and pretty statistically speaking, 2.9% chance. So you're saying there's a chance. To make the playoffs. Alright, we're in. That's basically in. That's basically just... some of the worst luck you could possibly have. And you look well, you mean the good cults without Andrew Luck? It's they're going to make the playoffs. That is why it is painful. And we were talking about this the other day because and you don't agree with me, but like watching last week's last week. and just watching like all these young quarterbacks, just everybody seemed to be doing well and ours is like It's not really true. I know but it's what this way it felt as a fan That's absolutely and I and I totally Hear you on that one because it did feel that way especially being in new york with the daniel. You know danny dimes Is out there fucking danny dimes winning games even though they really should have lost. Um and

03:05 Jake: You got the guy in both defense given a table of defense. Just let me one point 18 points. Good job Todd But then you got three no, I mean, you know, yeah, they are three no they should have lost to the Jats which is interesting And they haven't played anybody like they played us and they played another couple crappy teams They play the Patriots coming out. We'll see if there are anything for reals But bakers look terrible. Yeah. No really legitimately do you really bad bad? Yeah, he actually is not looking good. Like his QB reading is currently at 70, flashlight you It was like totally undrafted with Minshu and Jackson. Minshu, right. You see these guys, and they come out, and they can light it up. And then you've got, all right, fine. Well, can our guy just go out there and light something? No. He sucks. He has no arm. He was clearly given. You're talking about our third string quarterback. I'm talking about Luke Falk, yeah, our third string quarterback. And then I thought about it a little bit more and I was like, all right, do you hurt yourself? Maybe. Um, I was like, okay, the Cleveland game totally gets like a total pass. Like he wasn't even on the team until the day before. Right. So like, okay, you come in and you're the backup and Simeon gets hurt on this. like, fluke crap where he hurts his, breaks his leg or whatever. And there's a third string, and you're not gonna win that game. Even though his stats looked fine, 20 of 25, 80% completion percentage, if you're almost 200 yards, you only got sacked twice, like, great. But then there's tape. And then... shit goes down because you're playing the pads at home against one of the better. The probably the best isn't going to, this isn't going to work. You can't go in there with your third stringer and expect to really do anything. You don't have your starting tight end. You're missing a starting wide receiver. Your line sucks. Like you're really just missing a lot. And all that, all that like excuse stuff. Oh, I hate the excuses. I was, I'm torn by it because in summer specs, I wanna say, you know, those are somewhat legit. Hi, I'm

06:20 Jake: I'm Oh, Herndon's still not back either. Well, that sucks. And then you're not gonna get a break on the other side either, because you're putting the Patriots, Tom Brady's on the other side, they're fully healthy, and you're playing four backup linebackers in your 3-4. So in your 3-4 alignment, the four are all backups. Good luck locking down that short passing game that the they can done fucking bullshit that they just do. So like the excuses are like somewhat legit but then it's like well actually there are other teams who win in these circumstances and if you just told me like hey Justin you can have Bill Belichick and we'll take Adam Gase. and see what happens for the rest of the year, I'm pretty sure we'd win a lot more games. Because he's the best coach. And if you said, all right, here's like Andy Reed. I know I'm mentioning like the best coaches in the league. Well, Andy Reed's not a Super Bowl winning coach, but okay. Yeah, but the offense would look real. It would look legitimate. There'd be some trickery to it, some chicanery to it, and he'd figure out how to use the fast guys. Because that's what he's good at. We have speed. We do. We have a guy who's fucking fast, and Robbie Anderson. He's annoying because he drops and misses balls and he's slight, but how about let's chuck it down the field to him a couple times? Because you can't just let Le'Veon Bell run into eight man boxes. Oh, well you can. You can keep calling him. Oh, you could. I mean, sure. You can keep calling him for three yards of carry. Again, I normally, and maybe it's just because I'm getting old and cranky, but I normally him like. You know, I'm very much behind the head coach. I'm very much behind the new guy like okay Let's give him a chance, but I think I've learned as just going on in years that sometimes you just have to trust your gut and Honestly since this guy walked in and since I just haven't liked him. It's just something about him. That's just unlike him I don't like watching him in the in the post game. I don't like watching his interviews. I just don't like him. I don't know if it's just my vibe. I don't know if he's like pissed in my Wheaties or something. I just don't like him. And what I've been waiting for is to see something on the field because good, I think good head coaches, right. So the worst head coach can take the best team and still win because the best team will win. The best head coach can take the worst team and still win because they're good. They elevate the team. They bring in stuff that hasn't been done. They're good. I can tell you that Belichick would take a team that is shit. He can take a backup quarterback and he then warps it and changes it and does whatever because he's really good. My hypothesis.

09:02 Jake: Style can change too by the way. Bill Belichick as a head coach. for the last 20 years has had many different styles. And like that team adapts with the same quarterback. Yes. Has changed the style of that offense a number of times. And you know, when quarterback goes down, you still win 11 games. I know. And when he's suspended for the first four games because he cheated, you win. They went three and one. Yes. And by the way, those two back ups, Jimmy G and Jacoby Brissette are playing really well for other teams. So there's another thing to it, which is being able to eye talent that are NFL football players. And then you mold them. Yep. Because we're clearly not getting even NFL talent on our goddamn realm. Here's what I don't. Here's now my fear, right? So this season, I know, kids, I know it's hard, but this season is is now a lost season. Like literally we're in week three and it's pretty much lost. We can all sit around and watch games and hopefully see some good stuff. And there's always the 2.9 percent. Let's round it up. Three percent chance. Fine, we can make some noise. Maybe we're playing meaningful games in December. Like, there's a chance if we win these three games. Like, great, that's great. And that's fine, and I'm down with that, right? I'm going to the games. I'll still go to all the games. But here's what I don't want. I don't want what I now don't think is a very good head coach. I think we've done it again. We've gone and grabbed a guy that, like, we've been convinced about, and this is all basically on ownership. We've grabbed some guy. Bye. and it's like he's the hot guy and he wasn't even the hot guy. And now we're stuck with, which is crazy, now we're stuck with like this and what's gonna happen is the excuse bug is gonna come out. We're only spending the entire rest of the season going, well Sam didn't do this and Sam was out and this is why. Now granted. If he comes out wins 10 straight like we just come out and just start crushing and Sam looks like cash changes This will look back at this and we'll say hey look we were fucking injuries They actually really really matter because if you look back, right? And this is where my whole like i'm having a hard time with this because i'm Oh, you've been flip-flopping all over the place. You're the worst. Oh my god, I've been having such a hard time with this, because you've been like... I- I- Since day one, like, even game one, you're like fire days. And I'm like, dude, it's one game. And you're like, just fire me, fucking sucks. And I'm like, you gotta give him a little time here. So if you go back to like, half-time of the Bills game... And maybe midway through the third quarter just prior to mostly getting hurt. Yep when we're up 16-0 Yeah, remember how we got there though. I'm not through an offensive anything pick six and an offensive touchdown fine one drive You're sitting there and you're thinking this game's under control. We've got this game We've got it the bills couldn't go anywhere. Oh from a defensive standpoint. Yeah, I had the game We had the game though four picks four turnovers and I'm still I was still sitting there thinking we've got this game

12:01 Jake: But then Mosley gets hurt and the whole defense falls apart and then gives up Like two touchdowns in the fourth quarter where the bills were going nowhere the whole game. Yep, and that one injury led to that one loss very easily. They missed a cup, they missed a field goal and a freaking extra point and the injury to the linebacker compound those two things which are flukey stupid things and you lose a game to a team that's three and oh now in the division which fucking sucks but it does give some validity to Well, we had two backup middle linebackers in there. And they started taking advantage of that. And then all of a sudden this guy that we've never heard of runs for 70 yards on four plays. And it's like, wait, that wouldn't have happened if Moseley standing there in the middle instead of this guy Cashman who's learning and getting better, but he's not CJ Moseley who we just paid to be the highest paid middle linebacker in all of the NFL. You know? Like, that's a big loss. It's a huge, huge loss. But I'm looking at that as fine. That's the defense, and that's what I do. It's the team. It's the team. It is the team, but we hired this guy to be an offensive guy for the first time ever in a billion years. We talked about this. This is supposed to bring an offense to this team. and because we've been playing the defense card for years. I know. Here's our offensive guru, the genius, the whatever. He's gonna come in and he's gonna make the offense look good. He has weapons, he has people. It's gonna, but I can tell you, But he doesn't really have weapons now. But just, but I don't care, but just looking at it, I look at the games and I watch them and I'm like, I see nothing, like. No motion. Hold on. No motion. Stop. Yeah, literally bitches. Hold on. No, I sit there. I'm like, where's the fuck? There's nothing going on. You're a lot of people. I'm a defense. I'm if I'm a defense I'm sitting there watching this fucking doc. Get back there and quack. It's like oh my god He's gonna get killed cuz there's there's no Disguising of anything. It's like oh, I know what they're gonna do you goddamn. Well know the defense could do It just doesn't, I'm looking at it and I can tell you, I've watched enough football that I'm like, there's nothing interesting about this. But Jake, here's the other thing about it. I get it, it did, did, did, did, did, did. But it wasn't in the first game either. There was nothing. I get it. With Sam. Understood. Probably had Mono at the time. Excuse. Probably had Mono, first time that line played together, first time leaving him. With that line, which is also a thing, right? It's a great way to get the You're running back in the line need to have a little bit of a connection Do you think that was a good idea to sit up bell all I think it was a fine idea to sit a sit out bell I think it was not a fine idea to not play the offensive line, especially Khalil You needed to see him because now it looks like he's actually not good and we might need to go back to Jonathan Harrison That might have been a bad decision that looked good at the time because hey let's bring in this all-pro well he retired for a reason apparently and he's not that good and that's that and the line just isn't very good and if you

15:00 Jake: don't have a good line it crumbles and it doesn't allow for you to do things on offense that are more creative and And you have to do things faster like behind the line of scrimmage or right at the line of scrimmage Or even just draw plays and crap on like third and 20 It's like well, we're not picking up 20 yards We don't have time to push the ball down the field Then in game two you've got a backup quarterback and then in game three You've got another backup quarterback who's practiced all of three times. So like there was a loss I actually thought that just played great I guess the defense the Patriots adjusted the defense With all those backups out there like play it hard and you know, you're playing tom brady. That's gonna be a really hard game That wasn't open no, but like they the defense fought they yes, they they They gave up 30 points that's gonna happen to the Patriots. 30's actually a decent number against the Patriots. You don't want them in the 40s and the 50s. And they'll get there. They'll go there on you too. They have no... I was real surprised when Billy was like, here's the backup. Because he never takes his foot off the throat. Especially against the Jets. I've only seen it done once before and it was against the Dolphins. They were winning 40-something. 40-0. 41-0. It was something. I was... the dolphin's going to kick it down and then they put him back. And then I was texting the Patriots fans. He was in one of those games. He was not about losing. He was about winning games by a lot. Yeah, he's the guy who puts his hands up. Foot on your throat and it doesn't let you up. And that's a good way to play football. I want to go back to a point. Here's the thing I want us to get from this season. Because you and I talk about this. We talk about what's wrong with the jazz. What is this bad luck? I don't believe in luck. I really don't. I'm not a religious person. I don't believe in the heavens and the earth and the Satan's and the whatever. So I don't believe in any of that. But we know where the issue is. The issue is with ownership, right? That they keep making bad decisions. Basically hiring bad people and then bad people do bad things and that's it. And we just don't have the talent to kinda come down from the. So ownership's bad. We know we can't do anything about that. , Gary V, get your money together, let's go. So we know we can't do anything about that. But, one thing we can start to do as a team that I've now witnessed a billion years of, we have to learn from the mistakes and cut them quicker. Not do this thing where we see something bad happening and we go, let's just give them another six years to see if it continues happening. And I know we laugh at teams to do that, but every time we look around, you're like, oh, but that team actually then got better because they realized they made made a mistake, they pulled the cord quickly, they pulled it, and now they got someone better. Because you kind of have to keep trying. You can't just keep giving these,

18:00 Jake: the head coaches too. And I know it's expensive. Listen, I own a business. As do you. And you know it's expensive to hire and fire people and all this stuff. But at this point, I want the team to please wood Johnsons, of all the Johnsons, learn to make decisions faster and more decisively and to see when you made a mistake and admit it and move on. And we can't just sit around for the next three and a half years to watch this Diaboccal thing happen because again we have Well, you know what? I was gonna say we have a limited women of Sam, but now I'm just watching every team roll out any older I know it's not really happening, but it looks like it They're just drafting quarterbacks and putting them out there and they're winning games and I'm like what the fuck I think anything like that. I think we saw a good early You know and it it doubly hurts because we're New York and it doubly hurts because The Giants generally do the right thing always. And we laughed at them last year when they drafted Barkley instead of this once in a lifetime crop of quarterbacks that they had the number two pick and could have picked whoever they wanted, except for Baker, right? And could have had our guy, Sam. And we were like, whoa, Sam, yeah, we want that guy. Could have had Lamar Jackson. Apparently, that's the guy Belichick wanted. So that's the guy you should have drafted, probably. He was trying to get up to get Lamar and he couldn't. But anyway, aside from that, then they wait a year and draft this guy out of Duke. And everyone's laughing at them like, hey, assholes, you had like Sam Darnold in your pocket last year or Josh Allen or Rosen or Jack, like whoever. And you picked. This guy, Daniel Jones out of Duke with six overall what? And after one game, very, very, very, very like, you know, overreaction theater occurs the day after or the day of, you know, on Sunday when he's like, you know, a rip roaring comeback for the Giants, which crazy statistic comes out that Eli Manning in his career as a starter for the Giants. Um, was O and 44 when the Giants were losing by 18 or more points. Daniel Jones is now one and O. Yeah. Oh, and 44. I mean, it's a great story and it's all great. So your point is double, it doubled down on the shittiness because you've got this guy now and it looks like the Giants made the right Decision after one week right super early super now There's tape and now people are gonna look at that tape of Daniel Jones, and they're gonna be like okay This is what he does well. Oh shit. He can run I didn't know that okay We'll make sure that doesn't happen just sucks when our guys sitting there You know mono with fucking mono and this guy's out there

21:02 Jake: So, all right, so let's get so we can talk. I mean, if we could talk about these two games, I guess we kind of did. I think we played a good game defensively, all three games. I think defensively they played very well against the Bills until Mosley went out. I think they played pretty well against Cleveland with the exception of one big play to Odell Beckham. Right. Which is gonna happen. I've seen that guy do that a hundred times. He does it all the time. He takes a 10 yard slant and goes 80. I've seen him do it. He's Jerry Rice with that stuff. Yes. He's fast and if you can't. It's what he does. And you have to keep someone up. I mean, I just. It was a 90 yard pass. Yeah, I know. That's all of Baker's Yards. I mean, the guy had 325, but you take 90 away, you did nothing. And then against the Patriots, they tried as good as they could. And they really like, you know, they kinda. After they got adjusted, and I think it just came at them like way too fast and furious like the Patriots do, you know, they scored 13 points in the first quarter. Yeah. But they scored 17 points the rest of the game. So they did eventually adjust. It just took time for all those backups to adjust to it and to further the issue with the backups. And again, I'm trying to stay away from this excuse, but no excuse like like You would say our most productive wide receiver is... Who? Right now, our most productive wide receiver. It's pretty clear. Who's the guy? Most productive? Yeah, the guy. I think it's Crowder. It's Crowder. It's no doubt, right? Well, Crowder's a slot receiver. It's what he does. It's why he's productive in this offense. Well, with the injuries... We had to play this guy Berios who could only play in the slot Which meant our most productive player who plays in the slot had to play outside all game And that's not where he thrives. So our two outside receivers Robby Anderson's locked up by Like one of the best corners in the league. There's always one on that team Yeah, and then you've got Crowder who doesn't play on the outside so he doesn't run those routes and you've got a rookie named Barrios playing in the slot who's not going to do much for you because you know Demerius Thomas is injured. I don't think he's going to do much for you either but he's injured by the way. So I don't want to get into like overreaction theater on like the whole world's imploding but if we're going back to like the the because As a fan, you at some point just have to put your faith in something. I can't go in there, I can't run the team myself. I'm not doing that. You have to just put your faith in something. My faith is gone from Gaess. It's just gone. I just don't have any faith in him. Prove me wrong. But you're like, okay, maybe it's Joe Douglas. Maybe that's the guy. Because you're trying to think, what's the positivity around this? I'm not looking at his record. He's done two things. Two really moves. leaves. Both of them looking kind of shitty at this point. Right? Like, Coyle? Mmm... Thomas?

24:01 Jake: Are you looking at either one of those going those helped in any way? Didn't get didn't ship off Leonard Williams when we could have. I don't know. I don't know if we could have shipped him off anywhere. I don't know where he was going. Like... a guy like him I don't think has any value on the trade market. I think you're better off just keeping him and losing him to free agency and getting that third round pick right as a compensator because it's probably what you're getting for him if you trade. See it doesn't do anything statistically he he's so here's so here's so here's the thing are we okay so For him, I have to put my faith in him. I have to put my faith in Joe Douglas, that he is going to be a good GM, that what he's doing with now is some other bed made for him. This goes right back to like, again, even the firing of Mac. Mac is looking worse and worse of a higher. But I read an article that was like... Could've been the worst. I couldn't even believe it as it was because Asmak was our GM And this is why I think we're both of us are total bullshit. Thanks for listening. We're total bullshit Oh, yeah, we don't know where it's fucking going We don't know what I'm talking about because asmak was the GM. I thought that there were good moves and questionable moves But that's like every GM we've ever had. Like there are good moves. I thought he made like some good draft picks, right? Oh yeah. He drafted Jamal. Yep. He drafted Sam. We didn't, we liked the way that he kind of let people drop to him, that he picked the best available player. He liked that safety one, two pick he did. Like a little, like not conventional, but we like May and Adams to play in the secondary for 10 more years. Like that's a thing. Sam good like it seemed like he made decent moves in free agency when he made them they just Like at the times they just seemed to like blow up and then the drafts were terrible and his lack of focus on the Offensive line is going actually killing us right now and it's the one thing that you can point to that you can say I'm literally firing you for this one thing. Like, if nothing else, it's actually this, because it's killing us. We're trying to build a team that has like an up-tempo, like, offense that can throw and run, and that requires a line that is not this big, bulky-ass line that can't move. Like, they're trying to run this system that doesn't align to the personnel. So... I'm hoping that, and this is where we're trapped with Gaze, is that like he's got a system he wants to run, he's gonna be in communication with the GM and be like, I need different guys. Because these guys may be okay like on another team, but they're not okay for what I'm trying to do. and I'm trying to do what I do as opposed to change himself. Well, they're just also just not talented. Like, it's... Oh, I don't know about that. It's a bad... Well, we have one of the worst lines. I just don't know if individually, man for man,

27:01 Jake: if they're just not talented or if they're just not well-comached. Well, when's the last time we were above the third round or above and picked a lineman? Fuck me man exactly idea exactly But that's not that's not always the like that's not always the recipe for success ask the Giants actually Yeah, ball go go ask go ask the Cowboys who did it for years I know they ended up with a great got to be right about it though Yes, you know you can't you can't feel like well I'm gonna spend a first round last time we did it line very successful D brick and mangle in the same draft and mainly for years together. I literally want to sit I want to just fast forward. I know I'm already talking draft and fucking sorry, but like, I want to fast forward first round. I want to first round picks and I want them to do the exact same thing. It would be great. Boom, boom. If we, it would be great if we had an asset on the team right now, that would be valuable enough for another team to want that they would give us. something of value so that we can get two first rounders next year. Yeah. Well, we need it. Yeah. And they should be spent, as you're saying, on either two offensive linemen, two offensive, or like a left tackle or a center and a corner. One of those things need to happen. I really that I really just want. to I really want I want the corner situation is very very bad. Well, get Tremaine Johnson. He's a disaster. He's barely playing. They are playing. Justin: I got to say that guy number 21. Jake: No, Robert sucks, too. But number 21, the guy who's kind of just filling in and and starting now playing and I can't remember his name. I'll I'll try to find it here. He's playing okay. Not pool. No, no. And pool is also playing okay. Nate Hairston. Nate Hairston. He's playing okay.- Right. To me. Like that's the thing. I've never heard of like the Bills' corners. But apparently they're some of the best in football. I don't need to hear of a guy like Tremaine Johnson. He's a name. We paid him a lot of money. I don't care He sucks and I'm and that's the part i'm good with gaze because he's like fuck you. You're not playing You're not good agreed. You want to give me good with that if you want to give him a point fine I'll give him a point for that. I'll give him a point for that. He deserves that. I don't know but it's him though It could be williams doing it It could be Greg, maybe. And you might be right, because he's a pretty strong personality in there, right? He could go right up consulted and be like, this guy Johnson, he He doesn't fucking care. We paid him two years ago and now he doesn't care. I got this kid, Hairston, who's playing with balls off. I want to see what he can do on the field. Sit this fucker. Yeah, I want to see what this guy can do, because look, we're trying to build the team. We're gonna come in so let's go. Let's go. Let's go positives if you hung around this long your positives. All right here. They are Here they are. First of all, Sam, it looks all indications are that Sam can be back. I'm very worried about that. I'm personally worried. Just too soon? Too soon. I think he had mono for a long time. I also think he had mono for a long time. I bet he has.

30:00 Jake: I've read a little bit about it. It can be sitting there in your system for years. Yeah, and it gets flared up. Yes, by anxiety. Anxiety or overworking or whatever so like training camp might have got him and and He's got mono he's fucked up, and I'm worried about his spleen yeah, right because that's They're monitoring it. I trust them too, but what happens when this offensive line falls apart, and he takes a hit but I trust them not to put him back, I trust them not to put him back until he's ready. They need to know that he's playing football and that it's tackle. Of course they do. They're gonna kill him. Again, the doctors will know this. The doctors will make sure they're not gonna put him back. Again, it's a must win situation. If they wanna sit him for another two weeks, they'll sit him for another two weeks. It is a must win situation in that building. In that to us to us as fans, we are saying fucking who cares in that building though That is a must-wing game. They are not they are taking that very serious I am because I'm telling you I'm okay them shutting down the rest of the season literally no Because I'm telling you they've got the easiest schedule left in the league they really really do and They've got this game coming up against Philly who's no great shakes I know we've never beaten them in the regular season ever. Didn't they just beat Greenway last night? They did, but I watched some of it. They're not that good. Their defense sucks. Great. Literally. Their corners are worse than ours. So we'd better be able to throw all over them. I just don't know. I mean, unless literally he starts coming back. We have three more. We have three more. back to back to back games that are gonna be very difficult. Philly, which I think is the least difficult of the three. Dallas at home, Patriots at home. Boom, boom, boom. I think if we can be one in five, I'm serious. The Colts were one in five last year. Yeah. And they made the playoffs. Okay, fine. But you look at the schedule after that, it's a. It's a cakewalk. It's a joke. We got Miami twice. Yep. Jacksonville with Minshew. Right. Fine. Miami. The Giants with a rookie quarterback who there'll be plenty of tape on by then and they probably won't have Barkley back yet. Washington who's worse than us. Yep. Oakland. Cincy True Miami who is worse than us Baltimore's the tough one. Pittsburgh with their backup who's not very good. We close that Buffalo. I don't see a reason why we can't win like seven or eight games here. Great. You can be seven and nine. I'll take it. After an 0 and 3 start, I think that would be a positive thing. I just...if... There has to be something so magical that happens... Yeah. unicorns pooping, you know, rainbow sprinkles. I just really want to win.

33:00 Jake: I really, really want to win a handful of these games. I want to beat the Dolphins twice with Josh Rosen starting both of those games for the Dolphins. I want to beat those Bills and I want to beat Josh Allen. I want to beat the fucking Giants and beat Daniel Jones. I want to beat the on 4 games. Yeah, if we win those four games, I'm happy. I want to beat these young quarterbacks. Okay. And Jackson, I don't think that's possible to win in Baltimore on Thursday night because they're really good this year. That's going to be a hard one that we're planning on going to, which we may not. No, no, no, no, no, no. All right. We are going to go to that game, but maybe we're going to root for the. Baltimore Alright, let's get some pics. What do you think? All right? Let's do some pics for this week So let's see how well it's let's let's cover some of the things that have happened first But let's go back at the Jake that she said Jake the jet Kingdom Fantasy League How you doing there? But I think I'm wanting to you are wanting to I think I got off to a good start last night I Jordan Howard playing and I had like three touchdowns. Well, it looks like In the in the East it's New York tank exchange everybody that's what I'm playing he he's three no I'm gonna take out and then you're going down I'm two-in-one and then the other side we've the lactose intolerant like that that's a good name and then the Rocky Mountain Jets although one of them I have to go in and one of you guys cheated night and I have to go in and knock down your team. One of you cheated your fox. One of you cheats. Alright and then yeah. Of course they cheated. Patriots and cheated. How'd you get in our league? And then last a couple weeks in picks been... Let's see. Catching up. I'm not in last anymore. Well, because there's usually somebody falls out. So first week I hit 11 next week. I hit seven third week. I hate 10 I'm still leading the entire We are winning by one right now by one a jet light and I forgot to pick last week I forgot it yesterday and pick last night. Yeah, so I did pick for now. So let's go over a pic Let's go. Well, I lost last night cuz I need to I pitched Green Bay No matter who I picked I lost right. I thought Green Bay was gonna win that game I'm actually happy Philly won it because I they have this little mini buy coming in against us and I'd rather Come in happy. I'd rather them not be one in three Because then for them it's a real must wings. They have the Cowboys in their division who are rockin rolling looking good Thank you my predictions. I think we go back to my season predictions. I said go back. I think I said Cowboys were gonna be good We have to. Go back and see what we chose for like divisions and super bowls and I can this rolling uh no jets game so bye week for us we win and um uh there is an afc on afc, matchup so new england and buffalo are playing each other so we've Really? You only have a few games here to pull out of our actual picks against the spread. That is true. Let's do it. Every game against the spread. Here we go. Atlanta hosting Tennessee.

36:06 Jake: Atlanta favored by four. No reason for them to be favored by four. Exactly. Why? I'll take those points. Give me Tennessee. Exactly. I agree. Okay, Kansas City going to Detroit, Kansas City favored by six and a half. I don't, see why that's not larger. I don't, I mean, I get that Detroit's like kind of started off with a decent record, but I still think that's a lot of luck. I'll take Kansas City because they can score like 80 points whenever they want. Yeah, I this was, this line didn't make sense to me. Thank you. I'll take to Kansas City easy. Yeah, it's low Indy is hosting Oakland uh one o'clock start indy's favored by six and a half it's a lot of points for indy but i believe in indy and i think this is a great example of frank reich's a good coach frank reich is just a good coach they did really well last year with andrew luck and they're doing really nicely this year with brissette it didn't matter and you know what they invested in two years ago offensive line in the defense that's what they've been investing in keeping them they don't have a lot of weapons but Brissette looks great. Uh, anyway, I've got the Colts winning this one by more than a touchdown because I just don't like Oakland at one o'clock on the road. I don't like Oakland to win, but I like him to cover. I don't see India as a powerhouse. So like over. So I think it's going to be close game 2320 or something. So I'll take Oakland for the back cover. All right. Danny dimes with his home opener for the giants against Washington. And in a surprise, I think Washington wins this game. The Giants are favored by three. A very, like, very, very typical. Like, that's the thing is that we don't know anything about this guy. Like, we don't. Nothing. We know nothing. And so for this one game, and I just have this feeling that, like, the shine's going to just be a little too bright. Starting for the for the for the. I know he is. Yeah, and he's still starting. Justin: I know. I get it. I'll take the Giants. Jake: The Giants defense sucks. It's their offense that needs to get going. I could just see them rallying around this kid, this one game. Maybe. Because it's at home. I'll take the Giants. The crowd's going to go nuts, I'm sure. All right. Baltimore is hosting Cleveland. They're favored by 7. I like Baltimore. Yeah, why just 7? Keep going. That means pretty big number. I mean, it opened at five and a half and jumped to seven. So you know people like jumped right on Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore at home. I'll be that'll be a good game to watch. Actually. All right. Last early game, uh, Houston is hosting Carolina. I believe the backup still starting for Carolina this week, even though he played well last week. I don't think that'll happening again, used in his favorite by 4, I like it. Houston yeah, I like Houston at home. So I'll take you so and now one two three four four o'clock games Perfect. Here's all I need four. I think there's only two by teams us and one other this week

39:01 Jake: Because it's early. All right, so the Rams of Los Angeles are hosting Tampa The Rams are favored by ten and there's no way Todd Bulls defense is stopping that Rams offense I like the Rams I do too. We've picked all the same I need to go back and change a lot of points you don't normally take a favor favorite by ten I just think I think Tim Bay's coming off that bad the bad loss. They're gonna go go across the sea What a terrible can I who would you watch the end of that game? The with the Tampa game Giants versus Tampa. Did you watch the end end when they kick the field goal when they miss the field goal? Yeah, did you see like the coaching? Ridiculousness. No, I did see that. All right. I was watching like seven games, but you know so the Giants defense is pretty fucked they're terrible and Like, James Winston was going all day and then all of a sudden he's got like a minute or less to get down the field and he just chucks the ball up, Evans catches it, whatever, and the Bucks, instead of, they had a timeout, and instead of calling it... They just kind of like let the clock run and took a delay of game to move the ball back five yards because that's where the kicker felt more comfortable and then he missed. It made no sense to me. It's Bruce Arians? of the it's like go back to the retirement home kind of shit. Yeah all right anyway next. Yeah okay yeah Bruce. Go back somewhere else. Seattle at Arizona, Seattle is favored on the road by five. I just think that's too much. I'll take Arizona on the back door. I actually think Seattle, watching them play, oh my god, that Russell is so good. He's my favorite quarterback in the league. And even though they lost, and they lost badly, but they were in it. They were fighting hard at the end and making these plays. How about Teddy? Bridge down in insane not to beat them. Yeah That's a nice. That's a nice backup quarterback to have We were happy to send them away like we thought that was the greatest deal ever to like send them away for it It was smart. Yeah, ultimately like you didn't want that guy sitting there But you know, it doesn't look smart like Josh McCown's in the league Now, why isn't he the Jets backup? Oh, he wouldn't win any of these games. Why do we need him to win the games? Well, we don't. The Eagles have him as their legit backup. Why is he not just the backup? Like, Brunel was with us for two years. He wasn't going to win games. Like, why is that? Why did we have to do that? Are you saying I get rid of McCown? Why didn't you just got rid of him? We don't know what happened Maybe he wanted out maybe I don't know he didn't want out who knows he was with us in the preseason and let's keep going Chicago, Minnesota is a good one

42:02 Jake: Chicago home two and a half. Give me Chicago Oof. That guy just tears up every five seconds. We have to talk about that. but he's never played a full season and his backup's also really fucking good if you look at the numbers. You have cook. You need his backup. I'm saying you want to tell you a paper next traffic for next year. I might be looking ahead. All right Nada do Nice quarterbacks on my team and you got shit quarterbacks really do I'm trying to make a decision whether I Hana start Teddy Bridgewater or pick up like Jacobi Brissette James Winston, he's putting up points every week ma'am. All right, let's get let's get through these games. Oh one more four o'clock We've got Denver hosting Jacksonville. Fuck if I know, I'll just take Jacksonville. Denver's favored by three. These two teams suck. At Denver, I should be switching over to Denver. I think I am. I'm gonna do that. Let me ask you a quick one here about Jacksonville specifically. Jalen Ramsey. He wants out of there bad. I feel like we we fuck we get so fucked with these these named people like I just don't We do it all the time in the best corners in the league. Like would you give up? No, it's a first. Yeah, would you do that? No, no me neither to what to to knock down Forepass for us the year. It's just to have it's to have it's like all right here. You have the guy Like this is the guy. That was Tremaine two years ago. He was the guy. Tremaine wasn't this good. I know. I'm just asking. I wouldn't do it either. No, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't sacrifice. You just have to keep drafting them. Just because you know our first round picks can be in like the top five. That's right. As of now. Right. So it's worth more than J.R.A.A. I already want to trade down, grab two picks in the first round, and grab offensive lineman. Yeah I just want to hear it already just and would they pick whoever the best one. Is great Sunday night game. Okay. Dallas at New Orleans. Great Sunday night game. I think that's a destruction. I just don't know why that's Dallas is favored. I don't get it. Because Dallas is good. So is New Orleans. So is New Orleans. All right. They just beat Seattle with their backup. So they're pretty good. Okay. R And I think their backups starter quality. Teddy Bridgewater was a starter. He was a starter. He could be I think if you gave a chance right now to say like, all right. Here's all the starters, like Teddy would be like in the top 15. I agree. But I still take Dallas. I think Dallas is a little bit on the roll. I'm gonna take Nola. Just home dogs. I'll take that. And then Monday night we have a real shit show I will not be watching. Oh yeah, no. Pittsburgh is hosting Cincinnati. Pittsburgh is favored by four.

45:01 Jake: I'll take Cincinnati because they actually have a starting quarterback and Pittsburgh has a I favored by seven in Buffalo. I think Buffalo's defense is really good and I think that their offense is sneaky underrated with Josh Allen doing Josh Allen things but not traditional drop back throw Deaf. He also kind of has this thing where he can make comeback drives. We watched it. And I think he did it again, like last week. He just makes it happen with his legs. So I think New England's going to win the game, but they're favored by seven on the road and I think Buffalo. It's- going to keep it pretty tight. So I think that this game is actually going to end 30. to 24 in to 24 in New England, Buffalo covers. So you think, let's just be clear, you think that the defense, the Patriots defense that has given up three points all for three games is gonna go into Buffalo and give up the most points they've given up all season. Josh Allen. Yeah, I mean in fairness They've given up three points in fairness They played week one against Pittsburgh where Ben injured himself and they looked like dog do it like shit Then they played Miami who's the worst team in the league by far sure and they played David Fauq in the Jets Well, they got fucked right so like The defense is definitely good. I don't think that they're like this good in terms of limiting points. I also think that it might be no no they're definitely really good. They might be one of the best three in the league. But I think Buffalo is also in that conversation with Chicago probably. And maybe Minnesota. So like, this might be like the top four defenses. I think that there's a way that Buffalo scores some garbage bullshit in here and backdoors the cover. Yeah, actually. 30-24. I don't think, I don't like, I don't get this line. It's all based on, it's all based on Buffalo's good defense but I don't think that they've really figured out that New England is really that good. And I just. I just I think this is the defense that's gonna show show Josh Allen who he is I think you'll see oh, I think we did that by the way for a Until we lost like a very key cause so I don't see them going very far Right, I could see that I can see their defense scoring a couple

48:00 Jake: I think I think knowing it just takes this and shows everybody who's boss 3412 okay, and then we have Miami who are playing the Chargers Melvin Gordon Reporting. Yes reporting, but probably won't play. No, no, no, they have two weeks to activate him Okay, so in all likelihood you won't see him this week or next week They'll activate him after that cuz they're fine without him and then they'll just be better Yeah, I have him have him in two leagues. I have him in a league that I have I have him in a league where I'm like excited for him to come back and then I have I have Accord in the other way and I'm like, I don't want him to come back. So it's like, oh, I want you back, but I don't want you back. Well, he's coming. Yeah. Because I think he probably saw the stupidity in his ways like, oh, they don't actually need me. Like these guys are good. And this will just be his last year there. Right. That's that. So I'm surprised they don't have a trading partner, someone who just lost some running backs like. They'd love to have him on the thing is that no one if you trade for him, you've got to sign him. Right. Right. Yeah, I guess that's got to sign him. You're not going to trade. It's like if we traded for Bell last year, just to have him for a one year. Right. You'd have to sign. You would think to be someone who's like want who needs a guy for a year. We'll see. Yeah, I think he's. But then it's like, all right, I need this guy. But I've got to give up a lot to get him because he's good. You're going to have to. Not at first. Maybe. I don't think so. Listen, the chargers can just sit there and be like, well, we're gonna get a third when he leaves. So beat that. Um, anyway, the chargers are favored by 16 on the road. So is this a Rosen game? I believe so. I know that this is Miami, man. You can't make these lines big enough for them. I want to make them cover this game somehow by picking the score, but I just don't know if they can. Do it. I think I've got the Chargers winning 31 14. I don't know if that has them covering or pushing or whatever, but it does not. You know that that would be losing by a point. So I guess I got the Chargers in the pool. I charge a sneaky good D. They've got a pass pass by the way. Rex Ryan's assistance his little coaching tree. Yeah This is a head coach. Yep Petton is the defensive coordinator still for the Packers Yep, West off is still coaching in the league for yes for the Saints. Okay, he's like a special Whatever person league he's coaching he's on the Saints and they've scored special teams touchdowns like of course they have And I think there's a handful of others still in the league like from Rex Ryan Mmm, the Rex Ryan days Rex Ryan tree. I think this is gonna be a blowout. I think the charges will just kill them. So I think it'll be more like a 31, 10, 6, chargers, wind, cover, go for it. So

51:06 Jake: 2, 2, and then we can come back next week. We'll come back. We'll talk about how the Jets won the bye week. Hopefully we'll get back some Sam. We'll have something to look forward to the rest of the season because this is, this is, it's not, is this as bad as when we lost Testiverty in the first game? Like, is it feel this bad? Because we because that year we thought we were going to do good. Like, we thought we were going to go. No, it doesn't feel that bad or as bad as that felt, because that was 1999. And we thought we had we had Super Bowl aspirations. Right. We know we're coming off of an AFC championship game that we had lost to John Elway and the Broncos and they went off and won the Super Bowl and then he retired. So like, all right, they're not in our way anymore. We're the best team here. We've got Parcels as our head coach. We've got Belichick there as the assistant head coach and running the defense. That was a good team with real deal weapons and a good quarterback and it took them like eight weeks to figure out Ray Lucas. because they tried with Rick Myer and that like a traditional backup quarterback and he was just terrible and then they went to Lucas and they went like six and two I think in his eight starts so it's like so it's like Bill Parcells can actually adapt and play a fucking special team or his quarterback and win. Well, he also had Bill Belichick as a defensive coordinator who can basically shut the whole shit down. But yes, yes, yes. Point the finger at the nose. Absolutely. Good. I made my point. And we'll be back until then. As always, Justin J. Let's go Jets. K-3-S-S-S!