Captain Obvious
November 10, 2015 · 1:13:42 · A review of the Jags game & Week 10 picks and Throne Picks for all AFC East games, Keys to the Castle in beating the Bills on Thursday.
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00:19 Jake: Welcome to Jet Kingdom podcast, the longest running New York Jets podcast. period. I'm Jake joining me 251 times in a row. Justin cranky pants. Edelstein. I'm not supposed to say your last name but I just did. Why did you do that? I don't post. We don't have a post. Well, then I'll take it out somewhere else. We don't even have no we don't. Maybe I can just post our other podcast to this one. Why not? Yeah, why not? What else what else we got to do? Alright, well, we have a Monday podcast. Yeah, primarily because we're both in the office That's a B. We have a Thursday game and C We won and we see up last week and we skip last week. So we're kind of doing all because we lost Justin: No, we don't do that It was legitimate. It was an injury. It was. Do you want to tell them about it? Sure. I had a little surgery. Penis enlargement? Don't need that. No, I had a tooth pulled out of my mouth. That's not fun. Yes. Cool, that's when you say surgery like people think yes like Really, but it's like it hurts. I'm sure it hurts I'll talk to someone this morning and I was telling them and she's like yeah, I've had seven of those Oh, like what is wrong with you? And then she's like I've had 13 root canals and I've had seven teeth Get them all extracted and just go fake that way you don't have to deal with this right to your life, right clearly You're you're going in the wrong direction, right? I also told her she needed to start brushing her teeth once an hour Actually, that's not good. She's a client of ours. She was very pleased with me. Excellent Awesome. Jake: Hey, you want to talk about this Jaguars game? Yeah, let's talk about the... Should we talk about the game that we didn't talk about? Nah, fuck that. Just fucking... Well, let's talk about... We'll talk about... We got that. Well, I guess Gino played a little. Do we need to just touch on that for a moment? Oh, basically the whole world ended last week when we lost Fitzy for... Justin: the game and we lost in Oakland. We lost fits, we didn't have mangled, so we were down to backup center, backup quarterback, and we were terrible. Not a good recipe. We were terrible. Jake: Fastie for disaster. And we lost. And the defense didn't look very good either. No, which is just sort of a common thread recently. But let's talk about, all right, so fuck it, we lost that week, we lost against the Jaguars. Anything big takeaway for that? Who would be your fool of that game? The Oakland game? Yeah. Oh, it's Marcus Williams. Yes
03:02 Justin: he played terribly because he had to play safety because Calvin Pryor missed the game, right and For some reason Bulls thought it was the right move to throw I mean a guess a more talented player but Not a safety so he was playing him and said Deon Bailey who ended up starting this game who got hurt and I was asking who else 45 and he wasn't on the roster yearbook. Nothing. It was Ron Taz Miles. Remember him from from the Yeah, it was Ron Taz Miles was in the game yesterday so Yeah, he missed like, I think officially six tackles. One after another just kept missing tackles and guys were open and it just wasn't good for the run game to not have a strong safety in the game. It's like, oh, Calvin Pryor, he might be really good, actually. Yeah, he might be better than we thought he was. We were missing him. He's not making like splash plays, but... Jake: Plays are being made. Yeah, last year he was missing some tackles, but this year he's been better. I think the I'm just trying to think back to that Raiders game how bad it was. It was bad. They ran all over us Justin: They threw all over us Kromarti got beat a couple times It's not good. Yeah, it wasn't good performance Jake: Nope, and Fitz went out with it's went out on the thumb injury Justin: Yeah, the first drive when he showed us lady didn't right idiot and I guess he'd be my fool then I'm gonna make him the fool he I mean that that is a game changer Jake: I mean he was well beyond the marker like He should have just made a first down. Also, the other thing is, and this doesn't have to throw on bulls a little bit. He's told his quarterbacks to not do this. And both of them went into the game and it is stupid, stupid moves. I mean, Gino flying down the side, he sees this guy come in. He should have stepped out, got hit and then got in a fifteen or just stepped out. Just to get the hit. You just step out, man. All right. Or cut it back. No, don't do that. So we lost that and then on to Jacksonville on to Jacksonville, which I will tell you I'm sitting here today looking you across the table and you look terrible. Justin: Just have to tell you I am really in a bad way. I feel and I feel like we're talking about a loss. I'm saying it's your own thing. Well, that's why I don't care on this. Be you need to come see Dr. Justin. I'm going to. do some therapy for you. Jake: All right. You can tell me how this is not a loss because it felt like a loss. Justin: Well, let's first of all, talk about how the fact of the matter is. It's a win. Oh, OK. We have a win. So you can always rest on the fact that it's not a loss. It's a win. And it goes in the win column. Other good things happened for us across the league, meaning.
06:02 Justin: The Steelers ended up beating Oakland, which I think was a good thing. And then they already having to get people to help us. Well, you always need help. You always want to keep an eye on what's going on. And then Big Ben got hurt. So he's going to miss next week, at least at least. And they have a bye. So already we're like, you know, we need that five spot. We want that five spot. And by the way, the Colts beating Denver in. In any in in but but still the Colts beating Denver Makes their strength of schedule look quite a bit better than it did right? Jake: I'm just just on on Saturday. Don't have a winning record yet though. Do they they're foreign for if they are I Justin: Think they're four and five four and five. That's right. Yeah, we do Jake: We have not we have not beaten a team of the week winning record yet Justin: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, but that's fine. Our schedule is what our schedule is. There are things to be upset about with this game. 23 attempts, 26 yards. That the running game could not get going. Couldn't get worse. Couldn't get going. Backup right guard. Most of the game with the backup center so two starters out on the offensive line I don't know if it should have mattered. I think Jacksonville has a really good run D I'm just gonna go ahead and go out on Kind of a limb there. I'm pretty sure that Jacksonville has one of the better run defenses in the in the In the entire league. I'm actually gonna look it up right now. So we can we just talk about now I just want to see where they are in terms of run day. Yeah, they're pretty good I mean, they're in the top 10 well, especially now after yesterday's performance We're better we're number one, but they're they're in the top 10. They give up 94 yards a game Oh, which is pretty good Jake: We are not the Browns who give up one little run for 32 yelled in one for 64. Justin: They have two really good young receivers in Herbs and Robinson. They have a nice young running back in Gelsen. They have talent on that team. They just don't know how to win yet. They're two and six. They don't know how to win. I don't know. Maybe they need a new coach. This guy's only been there. This is his third season. I would give him another year. But either way, right, we have our ailing quarterback who comes back, leads us to 28 points, throws for 272 yards and two touchdowns, no interceptions, no fumbles lost with the bad hand plays a clean game We win the turnover battle, which is our seemingly key to victory.
09:03 Justin: And that's it, folks. I mean, you got deckers open perpetually. We've got Brandon Marshall, who you can throw the ball to in a herd and he'll make a catch for you. That touchdown catch was a really nice play. He had three nice plays. Jake: One of them had nothing to do with him. Justin: And Ken Brault Tomkin seems to like... fit in. And I know I said this to you during the game and you sort of laughed me off a little bit. As I always do. Yeah, I think we got one more game without Quincy and Nunua. Jake: And then he's back. And then our running game will start back up again. I really feel that way. Justin: He's missed the last three games. And if you look at the last three games worth of productivity on the ground, it's been abysmal. Yeah. As compared to the first five games of which Ivory missed one. Jake: We played, we definitely played better defenses in the last three than we did in the first three Justin: and I think having that one guy being a run blocker, fine. I do feel like the package is better with, if you're running the ball, I feel like he's a better guy to have in the field than Jeremy Curley. I feel like he's a better guy than that Davis tight end guy. I just feel as though, and I know this is weird, but I feel as though he sort of made the run game go a little bit and those kickouts were there because he was on the edge. Jake: Well, I don't think I've reached right. I don't, I don't, I just. The way he's attacking the hole the way he's finding the hole. He looks fine to me. I don't think he I think he's not right And I think this is one of the things the end of the season. I may watch this game later on today I'm I well have it on I didn't watch today, but I might watch it when we get I feel we lost Justin: But we won we won we won we had turnovers We got fortuitous bounces we got We even gave up stupid shit, and we still won like there was some really stupid stuff at the end of the first half that didn't make any sense. Which I, you know, by the way, Jake: he's talking about yelling at people. I was pissed and I was so angry at the end that watching that minute 30, we had minute 30 left and letting them, and we had the ball and I said to you, I need a professional offense and a professional offense with That's all for today. Thanks for watching. A minute 30 to go, can do whatever they want. Again, I don't want to compare them always to the Patriots, but really good offenses, or good offenses, if they know they can't go down there and score, they can at least just run the clock down. Get two first downs and run the clock out. We had... You only need one. Five and 15. Our third down conversion was 33% yesterday. That's bad. No, it's not great. We were making plays and I agree. There's something about, there is a making of plays, but we weren't playing a good opponent. We were playing a bad opponent
12:00 Jake: and we let them back into the game multiple times. There's no reason, we should have put our foot on their throat and crushed them at the end of that half. ... ... Maybe gone up by you know over two scores. Yeah, we should have went in right? I mean we should have went in that doesn't concern you like no because this is what good teams do versus bad teams Justin: you know, we we We were losing three nothing and After that we we took the lead and we weren't losing again We were never losing the game again. I understand. Jake: And if not for a muffed fumble punt, they would have scored again. They scored in two plays. I don't know if that was true. They scored in two plays on that night thirty. Justin: Yeah, that's nice. But I don't know if the defense would have been as soft with it only having been within a score of victory. When you're two scores away, you might play a little softer and it was like oh shit three plays down the field. That's stupid but At the end of the day, it didn't really matter We got the W Jake: Alright, I feel like this is a put this is a put put it behind you kind of game you know, but I'm just looking at the rest of our schedule and the teams that are coming up that aren't pushovers. Justin: We don't play anyone super magical here. Jake: Well, I think Tennessee is not going to be a rollover. Either Bills game is not going to be a rollover. The Dolphins aren't going to be rollover. Even they played bad yesterday, they're not going to rollover. Do you know it's fun though? You know who's not going to rollover? Every team we play. Do you know it's fun? What's fun? We need four wins. For the playoffs? That's it. Well, we have to talk about Thursday because it's going to be a tough road. We need four wins. Pick your play of the game. Play of the game and your player. Justin: Players. There's so many easy players. So many easy players. Are there really? Umm... Let's spread some love. Yeah, spread a little love. Sure. I'm gonna give Calvin pace my player of the game Yeah, that was that play too. He was mine because He didn't play that much anymore and I was Watching you. It's really easy to see when you're there. You can see all the guys in the field and yesterday our base package Was a nickel It was it was four down linemen Two linebackers and three corners and two safeties that that was it. That was pretty much what we were going with So pace and really Copples doesn't play at all But pace was on the field and Malden was on the field At first specific purposes and they got it done both of them I'm giving mine to pace because he had a strip sack And recovered the fumble. Which is a great play. So I'm going to go ahead and give the old man some love. Jake: I would give it to...
15:00 Jake: So I'm not going to pick the... Lorenzo Maldon. I think he had an amazing game. He did what he was supposed to do. He looked like a guy who... Maybe we have a guy now who kind of can rush the passer. From the outside. Justin: Want to go ahead and compare him at the moment to air Maven May and Maven. Yes, like oh, it's gotta run the path. All right. Well, let's calm down for a moment He's like seven sacks that one season in like eight games. Yeah, but he sucked. So let's give this guy like, you know He did what he was supposed to do yesterday. Jake: Which was get to the corner. And in a game, I guess, when you have six sacks and someone gets two, it's like, well, you had six. Like, everybody's getting six. Why don't you get a couple more? I'm gonna give it to Fitz, because first of all, he had a clean game, which to me, that's a win. That's a win when he was a clean game. And that's some balls. Like, I think he came back. Now, let's. Let's talk about something though, because it came up in the press conference, the presser. Yes. Did you hear this? Justin: I did. I was watching the press conference. Jake: Um, you watched the post game show? Yeah. I thought it was terrible. Um, again, it felt like a loss. Justin: There was no denying on his behalf. Jake: He said, because they said, hey, rumor has it you're gonna get surgery on Friday. And it's a season ending rumor. Seasoning the surgery. Justin: See that part you have wrong. I've read everything I can read about today. It's Friday and he can play within a week Yeah, that would be the point But his reaction to it was how do you guys know was? Jake: Someone's reporting that yeah, like how the fuck will you know that? I didn't read it that way. I've read everything today. Everything I've read is the surgery is season ending. Justin: No, it's not. And he's electing to take it on Friday. No, he hasn't elected to do anything. And the surgery is not season ending according to whatever doctor I read that said that he could come back and maybe miss a week. He would definitely miss a week. Right. So, he would, if he were to do it Friday, he would, in all likelihood, miss the next week's game. Which is what? Whatever it is. I don't have the schedule. Oh crap. Alright, I'll look at it. I'll do it. I mean, I could find it right now. So, Texans. So, that would be a good game to actually miss. Houston, they're terrible. But he would definitely miss that game. Jake: He gets the long weekend. He can do it on Friday. Gets the long weekend. The whole week. So he doesn't have to play on Sunday. Then he gets the whole week. Put in Petty for that one Texas game. Justin: It'd likely be Gino. Jake: Oh, Gino. Okay, I thought that was interesting. I thought that was interesting. Justin: I did not read that it was a season ender. Jake: I read it was a season ender and there's no... One... probably a one week.
18:00 Jake: I read a season ender and here's what I was thinking was, who gets to make that choice? Because I was reading it as, and the way I was seeing it, I'm getting all conspiracy theory here, but I was reading it as, he was going to elect to get it done. and be done. And basically saying, I'm not gonna play through the season, this is a thing that I need to get fixed. I still have a couple years left to be a backup quarterback. You, the Jets, have no long-term anything with me, and I'd rather be ready to go for the next team for next year than kinda kick around with this team this year. That's the way I was reading it. Justin: If that's the way that he's thinking about it, it seems a little, like, wrong. Because I would I'd rather play through it. And I mean, it's something you can recover from, obviously, in a couple of weeks. So it was a couple of weeks. It's an ender. Everything you could recover in in two months, let's just say. Then you're recovering by the by the by the O2. Jake: Or if you don't, you could make it worse. And that's what I kept reading about it was that he could make it worse. He kept playing with it. Therefore, he wouldn't do it. You're just going to say Sunday that there is a possibility to undergo some surgery after I've never actually said that. I don't know, it's still up in the air, told reporters on Sunday. Andrew Stom on a non-throwing, and on a regular, and he just has to replace for the head coach, his torn leg wits, and his thumb, and would eventually need surgery, but could wait till the end of the season. Justin: I think if he gets surgery, he's done. I don't think so. The surgery is a season ending. I don't believe that to be true. Jake: I mean they rip open your thumb and, like, and rebuild tendons. Justin: Who says they're ripping anything open? It could be a scope. I mean I've had- It's torn tendons. I've had torn tendons in my knees repaired and it was a scope. And you go play a professional athlete or anything by a full range of motion within two weeks and I was playing tennis within five. So it's not as though these are like I don't really feel like this is a season ender situation. Jake: All right. I feel like I'm just trying to see someone say that the port of the separate tournament is left and wearing a brace thumb acknowledging to require service he was limited. the might not miss Oh, the post, NFL doctor telling the post that Fitzpatrick might not miss any time. You would probably not wait until the end of the season to undergo surgery, so the logical schedule would be this coming Friday. The Jets play the stairs, they The Jets could only hope that any time this would be minimal, even playing with injury. Blah blah blah, he was fine. Okay, alright. Well, anyway, he's my player of the game. Justin: My Nate of the game.
21:02 Jake: Cool. All right. Well, that's great. That's great. That makes me feel a little happy other than I want to go see me. I don't even know my other discussion, but we won't discuss that. All right. What was your play of the game? I already gave it to you. All right. Your play, your actual play. Yeah. The pace strips act. I was the the revisit pass in or the past. That was pretty good. Justin: That was so good. None of us gave Marcus. I mean, since he was my fool the last game. Yeah. I feel like I need to share a little of Marcus Williams. because he did have two interceptions and half a sack and three pass defense. I mean that's pretty good. He definitely played better than Kramarti. Jake: And here's my theory on Kramarti at this point. I have a theory too. I think he's hurt again. A. I mean I think he's hurt. He's been, remember he like that first game he got, who went out with like that knee injury, who thought you're dumb for the season and then he was back the next week and then... That's one What you're going to get with a young guy, he might as well be as smart, he might make, make a mistake, a mental mistake, but at least have the physical capability to catch up. Crow doesn't have that ability. You can watch it on the field. He can't make up speed. He can't get to these young receivers, these guys who, who are flying down the sides. At least with a young guy,. He might make mental mistakes, but I feel like he'll be able to catch up, so. I don't know. I don't know. He's looking like the guy we got rid of two years ago. Yeah, that was my take It's like so he went last year Justin: I can't say I watched a lot of his plays I saw his highlights like he'd catch a ball or intercept the ball whatever But like did you just suck all last year too or was he with like some other? Well, he was playing again again on the other side of a true a true number one Patrick Peterson And they had a great secondary. I mean the the Cardinals a great secondary last year. I Personally feel like we are seeing The same player we saw two years ago The same hurt guy same dude. I don't know if it's hurt I just think you might not be that good anymore And I want to see some of these young guys get a shot. I want to see Marcus Williams Yeah, I want to see D milliner if he's healthy. I doubt that seems to be an obvious one We didn't talk about any of these injuries are we waiting for the Bills game
24:01 Justin: Oh, I don't know why you named this podcast this way and I appreciate it. You do now know I do now know Okay, I didn't even know that dude was like for now. You get that it's a good naming, right? Well done I was so for the record. I wanted to name I wanted Jake: First of all for the record for the 241 40 51 times you don't turn the party on times Justin: I don't name the pie. I need a podcast names them But I want sometimes I have good ones and I throw them in there and they and they work sometimes I wanted to call this one shoot the bull right because in Todd Paul's news conference They asked him about like oh does it mean anything to you that like Rex is coming back or like right now? No, whatever and he's like how about to the players like they you know some of these guys really love Rex like yeah I'm sure before the game they'll go over they give a hug to shoot the bull right Jake: Who's that shoot the bull someone doesn't say shoot the bullshit says shoot the bull you know shoot bullshit. Yeah Justin: Shoot the shit Jake: Well, I guess unless you're a countryman they say shoot the bullshit. Because you don't see, when you're actually saying it... Justin: I've never said shoot the bullshit. I've said shoot the shit. Because it's a lot. Jake: But I think shoot the bullshit, I think shoot the shit is the short of shoot the bullshit. Because what do you do when you're bullshitting with somebody? I love it. Shoot the bull. But you don't actually shoot with feces. Justin: Anyway, yours is better. But shoot the bull would have been good. Well, mine I think has two. One we're going to talk about in a minute. Jake: But the other one is obvious, which is just... Justin: Rex being obvious. Let's do it. Alright. Well, let's talk about last week. How do we do? Well, it's not over yet. Okay. We still have a Monday night game.- Alright, well then- Where are we in the standings?, you're doing well in the standings? I don't know. I had I have seven going into tonight, which I guess isn't too bad There's a lot of buys and stuff. Jake: And then nine is a winner. When you're up towards the top, anyway. Where you at? Justin: I'm at 6. So where are we at like in total your one ahead of me actually? Jake: Yeah, I know it's where the world is ending. Oh my god, New York sure Jets is a 73. You're at 67. I'm at 66 and paperlet jet Zero still has a zero village still has not still has not shit still is not picking Okay Alright, so we're gonna pick every game. Yeah, we are spreads We're gonna pick the spreads and then we're gonna focus in on the ifs-eats match Justin: I'm really talk about let's leave a lot of time talking about the Jets bills game. Yeah. All right, we're actually coming. Yes. All right Green Bay Remember, these are Monday lines. So oh you that we don't have and then you these are gonna shift Green Bay is hosting Detroit Green R coming off of the gauntlet. Yes losing twice, right? pissed Detroit just fired everybody I think except the head coach. Yes Lay eleven and a half and pick my Packers at home I don't think I can't I can't take eleven and a half why they're Detroit they stink I I agree Jake: But they're also coming up by which means nothing playing a divisional foe. I just don't see it as a they have one win
27:02 Justin: Their last game was a road game in Kansas City, and they I guess this was in is in London whatever but they lost 45 to 10 Jake: Yeah, I don't know so gonna pick Green Bay keep going Justin: Okay, don't 11 and a half just too much care about it Carolina. Who's legit awesome is going to Tennessee Carolina on the road favored by five And they're too good. I picked Carolina rookie quarterback. They're gonna not be having any of that. Jake: I think Tennessee's the game. I think you saw a lot of this games like that people, I mean, didn't two number didn't two undefeated teams lose this weekend? Justin: No. Yes. Denver lost. Denver and Atlanta. Atlanta was not undefeated. They'd already lost one. They lost two, I think. Jake: Oh, I think that's their second. Thought they were undefeated heard really yeah on a slide Alright, so I don't know I'm a big Tennessee. Oh, yeah Justin: Told you New Orleans was nothing. Oh Yeah, cuz they could put up 52 on the Giants. I mean shit. Alright, uh st. Louis Dirty dirty st. Louis Dirty see those comments after the game now. What were they you like hibernate yesterday after the game? Oh, yeah Jake: I went back. I watched the four o'clock and I went to sleep. I was so so st. Louis played Minnesota yesterday. Yes and Justin: Teddy Bridgewater was running and he went into a slide and he's late and someone knocked him right the fuck out Oh, I saw the head sliding. Yeah, we saw the Higgs. Yeah showed it in the stadium. Yeah And in the post-game press conference, the Mike Zimmer, the Minnesota head coach, comes out and... Jake: He very... Justin: I'm gonna go with the word slick. He was... it was... it was overt. He... he made mention of, you know... Well, you know that defensive coordinator over there has been known to... Do some stuff with quarterbacks. It's Greg Williams. Yeah bounty gate And he was long time long time known to do that with Fisher So he made he threw some shots at Fisher and I think he said if we were Not at a football game I would have punched him or something along those lines. Wow. Yeah, so St. Louis on the road Chicago giving seven and a half And I'm picking the half. I like st. Louis by seven. So I'm gonna pick Chicago Jake: I don't know because Chicago hasn't played yet. Justin: That's true, this line could swing... Jake: But I also think this is a short week for them. I don't think Chicago's gonna have a tough time. So they have to play tonight and then they have to go to St. Louis. I think they're gonna get beat down. And they get beat down. Justin: Pittsburgh is hosting the cleave and this game is off. There's no line
30:03 Justin: So we don't know who's starting for Pittsburgh. I have to imagine it's gonna be Landry Landry Jones. Yes, it is. Right? Yep. I don't know what the line is gonna be. I'm just gonna pick Pittsburgh because they're home and They should be Cleveland. Who knows who's even starting for Cleveland. Oh, that's right. So I think I thought what's his face was close but how close last week yeah, but at this point shouldn't they just be playing Johnny Manziel I Would you know I'm all about playing the book you want to play Bryce Petty I do 5 and 3 with a playoff chance you want Bryce Petty and that's correct. That's correct I thought that was this game. Please please tweet or do however you get in touch with us Let us know how stupid that is okay? You want us that you don't want to just keep that I want to make hurt. That's right that I want journey man I want to be in the playoffs you want to lose badly in the first round. I want to make the playoffs and make a run Just like we did Back when we were starting the rookie quarterback. Yeah with the pedigree. Oh, it's a pedigree now. Well, so It's like I want to start with the fourth round pick versus Jake: You know what year this reminds me of? Justin: Although, totally different caliber of quarterback. I don't know what year it reminds you of. What year, Dick? The F.A.R.V. year? Jake: Yeah, it reminds me of that. It's like we're all getting excited because we're doing well, but then we're doing the bed. because it's like a 55 year old quarterback. Who's gonna have surgery on his hand. Yeah, but keep going. But fire wouldn't give us bills. Keep going, I wanna talk about the Jets Bills. Well you didn't fucking pick. I did, I did, I said Cleveland. All right, Dallas, who stinks at Tampa? Justin: Who stinks. Somebody's got a win and I think it's Tampa Dallas's favorite on the road. How does a team like that be? I don't know give me a Tampa. I'm gonna take Dallas. Okay New Orleans is at Washington New Orleans favorite on the road. How does that happen? Give me Washington give me New Orleans How are these teams favorite on the road? It makes no sense. I don't know Alright, Baltimore is hosting Jacksonville, or favored by six and a half. I think Jacksonville's gonna throw all over them. I'll take points. Jake: Baltimore coming off of bye though, yeah? Justin: Yeah. Jake: I'll take points. I'll take points. I'll take points on this one. Justin: Alright. Uh, 4 o'clock. How many 4 o'clock's do we have? Jake: We have 3. Yay! 3 4 o'clock's. And yesterday we had 3 good 4 o'clock's. Well, what's nice about this, too, is this sunday is the... it's like... it's beautiful. It's a beautiful sunday. It's like a bi-week sunday. Justin: And we have a really good 4 o'clock game, too. to look forward to. Uh, oh yes. With three really good.
33:01 Justin: Well yeah. I think Denver Casey is a good game. New England... No, they're good games, but New England Giants is like a great game from New York. Yes. That's just a great game. Right, the rivalry, the whole thing. I think it'll be a slaughter. It's gonna be awesome. Fucking fish in a biz. Why don't we go to that? Huh? Why don't we go to that? Jake: Uh, the business partner has an extra if you wanna go. I don't want to go. Maybe I will go. Because I'm going to a game yesterday. I'm going to a game Thursday. And I actually on Sunday, I want to go for a nice long run. And then I want to I just want to sit on my couch and watch really good football all day long. Justin: Maybe I'll go to that. Jake: You go for it. Justin: I will be enjoying it from my couch. All right. Anyway, Oakland's hosting Minnesota. This game's off because we don't know about Bridgewater. He's not playing. Bye. I'd still think he's gonna play. Apparently he went out and was partying with the team last night. So he's fine. Okay. No line though so I'll just pick the home team Oakland for now. You know what fuck that I'm picking Minnesota. I'm a rootin. I'm picking a Minnesota as well. Alright So he missed last night. He threw a pick when he could have had it and then he never got the ball back And he was in Indy like he really should have done it like it was like made for him to do it it last night I literally think that the schedule makers like figured out Statistically what the what the best game to be was and they set him there and he just couldn't do it So now he'll do it at home. They're hosting Kansas City coming off of a bye. Denver's favored by seven without DeMarcus Ware. And the defense. To leave to keep. That was a boosh move. Oh my god, he went right in just to poke him in the face. Right in the face. In the face! Give me Kansas City I'll take Denver Alright, uh, skip and Sunday Sunday night, good one, thank you Sunday night football, Seattle I think this was flexed I think we have begun The flexing, I think so, I think it's a little early And I think this was flex Jake: It's an interesting flex because Seattle is Do they have a winning record yet. Yeah Justin: Yeah, okay, IB think so. All right. I feel like Seattle. Oh, they're not a winning record. No, I don't. Well, this R is still always a good game. Yeah. Seattle Seattle's hosting Arizona. Giving the traditional three, both coming to the eyes. I'm going. to take. I'm- Houston. God, could we get a worse game Cincinnati's favored by 11? I will take them to win by 20
36:02 Justin: I do not like 11 too much take you I will take them to win by 20. Seriously. All right, let's put let's get that on the board It's on the board. All right, it's already there. Let's talk about the actual games that matter this week I have to fill in the rest of this crap. I hate this crap. What, you have to actually pick? Well, where you have to like put scores and things and stuff in. Alright, let's talk about Miami. Well, I want this to save. Hold on a second. It's not saving. It just saved. Okay, my picks are in. Oh, okay. Picks are in! Alright. Alright, so Miami is, uh, what are they? Hosting? Hosting Philly? And they're favored by five? Did you do that right? You don't always do this right? No, I probably didn't do it right. Because that's... no, Philly's favored by five and a half. So not only did you do the thing wrong, but... You don't even have the... yeah, you don't know... You still don't understand how to do this. No, it's just what I'm writing, and I'm writing it quickly before we do the podcast. Yeah, you're right. So it's Miami. Is on the road or is home underdog five and a half So Billy beat beat down Dallas team last night in overtime Yes, Miami got their butts kicked by the bills totally Miami Has now lost two in a row after winning two in a row with their new coach so clearly Wasn Jake: all the coach well you well you get the you get that you get the new coach smell Justin: and then it goes away after two games you have the bomb and then you end up just smelling this is a hard game I think because of the five and a half ness of it I'm gonna pick Miami. Jake: Well, alright, no. Well, what's just we're not at this point. We're not pick. I don't care about the picking What do you think about this game? Justin: Why do we start with this game? I put this in a weird order. Yep. You really fucked me over on this one You're terrible. You're such a douche. You can't even like pay attention to like you're really a douchebag Alright, so I'm gonna go 2320 Billy 23-23 wins. Right. Miami covers. Jake: I have a feeling that, uh... I did not watch the game, so I have no idea what happened. Although I did hear that Sam Bradford looked like a reasonable quarterback yesterday. Justin: Uh, he threw his first and only touchdown in overtime. Take that for what it's okay. They were able to run the ball and they ran the ball They're really run the ball on Dallas. We ran the ball on on on Jake: Dolphins like couldn't believe it. Yeah, he had 166 yards in London in London. I
39:05 Jake: feel like Justin: Miami is just about to pack it up. Like I feel like they're at the point where they know they're completely out of it. They're just about to pack it up. The coach got fired. I feel like they're just, they're about to say goodbye. Like they just don't care anymore. And I feel like Philly in their division is starting to see, like they're starting to put some space between them and the teams behind them, Jake: which is what's happening, right? Yeah, I think it's close. They're like maybe one game ahead. Justin: Just doing it off the top of my head. I think the Giants are in first. Jake: I don't think so. I think the Phil is one game ahead. You sure? I think so. I could be wrong. Justin: Maybe one's had their bye week and one's had it. Right, maybe. Jake: So I have this feeling that the Miami is just gonna... fold and I feel like this is just a fold game so I'm gonna go high I'm gonna go Justin: the Giants are five and four yep in the in the NFC least yeah Billy's four and four Really? Washington is three and five And the Cowboys Jake: Ah, I see five and four four and four. Okay. Yeah, they just haven't had their bye yet Cowboys, I mean Cowboys are They're almost out of it. They're almost out of it that whole member that when he when When Roma went down and they were like, they could probably survive four games. Win two of the four. Well it wasn't four, Roma was gonna miss eight. It was four to get back in the next four games. Justin: They were like, if you could win- you could win two of the four. But Roma was always gonna be out eight games. I don't know where you're coming up with this four. I don't know. It was two of four. You're just making stuff up. I am that's what I'm doing. He's he went on the IR. He has to miss eight games Jake: Good, he's eligible. No, it was also but it was also des Justin: Des came could come back by this des is back. He looked he had a hundred something yards last night He had a nice catch and run in the first quarter He had a touchdown Jake: Anyway, let's not like des. I feel like really it's gonna destroy them 30 to 16 I don't know why, just out of my gut. Next up, the rematch. The Super Bowl rematch. This is a big Super Bowl game. New England at New York Giants. Only favored by seven points. Only seven. What are they looking at? Justin: The Giants always play them tough. And this, if I were Bill Belichick, and I know I'm not clearly, I would have my team go out and lose. You're garbage. Jake: I'd have them go out and lose this game. I would say I would want them to lose. This is the game that they should lose to then go on the streak right through and win the Super Bowl.
42:02 Jake: This is that game that they should just piss them off for the rest of the season. Because you know why? They're not pissed off. The whole deflategates kind of come, it's deflated. So like they're not really getting all the angst out of it now. No, they're pissed. You lose this game and then you're like triply pissed again and then they won't lose another game. They go straight through. You win this game and you go and you start getting up those high numbers. I just feel like they need that like extra boost. used. I think they should lose. They're not gonna lose. But I think they should lose this game because I think they would superpiss them off. Be like, oh, the guys have got us in the Super Bowl. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, I guess it could be a matchup again in Super Bowl, but highly unlikely. I don't know. I don't know who that Giants team is. I mean, I was watching the game yesterday. I couldn't tell how. I never haven't watched Tampa Bay all year. so I've seen his like... I've seen the scores and like it seems like Winston like some weeks is like lighting people up and throwing doing great yesterday I saw more drop balls Like wide receivers couldn't catch for their lives you in their hands Mike Evans I think had three drops while I watched for the limited period of time I feel like New England's just gonna just take it to the house. I just don't how can they stop them and If anybody's gonna stop I mean I I have it as 40 to 21 New England. There's 21. Those are all Obeckum, that's it. He's guess those three touchdowns you think so Yeah, he gets the three touchdowns but other than that they're just they're gonna go they're gonna destroy them destroy them. All right Justin: so I think that this game is gonna be a Slobber knocker Okay, that a word. I don't know word that someone used to use sure It's gonna be a fight it's gonna be a duel They're gonna go at it. These two offenses are gonna score like crazy Jake: I'm rolling my eyes. Justin: And the Giants are like, I think they're the team that the Patriots fear the most in the entire NFL. Like they don't fear anybody, but if they were to fear somebody, it'd be the Giants. They don't want to see the Giants, ever. No. Anywhere. But I think if you want to see the Giants, you want to see them now. Like not in the Super Bowl. They have a banged up secondary. Uh-huh. They really, they have one weapon on offense. They can score. They can score. But I feel like, again, I feel like they're beating up on teams that, like they beat up Jake: on the Saints. Anybody can score on the Saints. Rookie quarterbacks can score on the Saints. Anybody can score on the Saints. Justin: 38 35 that's ridiculous. I will place a bet with you if you think that's an actual score that the Giants don't get over 28 points that was the final score in
45:01 Justin: 2007 when they played in the regular season and they lost Jake: The Giants did lose right? That's right. And then went on the win Super Bowl, right? Justin: When it you know the Pats it was week 17 I think yes Well, it's not a chance to go you know 16 and oh the Giants gave him real run for their money They're already talking about it Patriots nation Jake: I talked to a person up there and they're talking about undefeated. They're talking about 30 35. They'll win But it's gonna be close. It doesn't even matter if they win or lose. That's the thing about the Patriots at this point It's like there's no chance of catching them like unless they lose the next seven All right, let's move. How much can we pay JPP Justin: to burn his hand? No, I don't know. It's bad. All right. Let's keep going. He's back. All right. No, I was watching this. JTS. So let's talk about our injuries first. All right. So I'm looking at the lot. I'm looking at the list. Are these all? Well, this is I added a few to this list. So Nick Mangold, what's going on here? So he tweaked the neck again. He said in the locker room that he. could probably go this Thursday. I don't- Did he have played yesterday? Like if it was like a playoff game would he have pulled himself out of the game? I think he would have. He would have. I think he would have played. Would have played. Yeah. Alright. That's my gut. Cause I think he just- I think he started feeling it and I think they're gonna hold him out for this game. Probably the smart thing to do. We'll see. Like in terms of- Long-term need Nick mangled need Nick mangled but a real tough game to not have Nick mangled in there for yes brutal because you know Going against the guy who's gonna throw some shit at you. Yeah and really good defensive lineman I mean our actually we can just tell what our entire team is all hurt. So we just tell everybody So Decker he's just he's fine. He's just not he's a maintenance. He's a maintenance mode. That's fine He's young to be in a maintenance mode by the way fine. Yes fine. He plays on he plays Calvin Pryor playing we need him I think he will Based on just I don't know. We don't even know how severe his injury. I think I think you'll play this what is his injury I don't know Like a sprained ankle because he was questionable for the game and then I'm hoping he plays because they could really use him back To stop this running nonsense. Do you know? Yesterday like tarot Taylor attempted 11 passes. Yeah 10 of 11. Yeah. What the fuck is that? It's a team that doesn't need throw It's crazy. He's gonna need to throw against us. Yeah, I like I do I want to see him throwing but the way watching watching big Blake portals big slow Blake portals Jake: He's not slow dude. He asked he is not fast. He is he runs, but that's the problem Justin: I feel like we're in trouble of the world's runs Yeah, he does he does not what do you mean? He does not he did against us, but that's not his thing. No I think it is his thing. No it isn't. Wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on. Are we going back to another?
48:06 Justin: Well I just want to look and see like sure. You know Blake Bortles they've played eight games. Yes Okay. Can player him to Blake to Fitzpatrick. Wait he's better. Blake Bortles. No no in terms of Jake: in terms of uh in terms of running yards. More. He has 178. And how much does Fitzpatrick have? Justin: You'll have to look Okay, I'm looking. He has a hundred and seventy eight rushing yards. That's 20 something a game. That's not a lot Jake: That's no, that's not a lot. For a quarterback? No. No, sorry No, 20 a game? You think that's a lot? I said 20 something. That's not a lot. A game Justin: It is 178 yards Let's see. Can I just sort this can I just do like individual? I don't know I'm trying to getting I'm gonna do this better than you so fuck you. All right. Yes Jake: This is great. A rushing. Here we go. Here you go. 124. What is his number? 128? Yeah. So, so, so that, so you know what Fitzpatrick thing is? He's a rusher. He's a runner. Justin: He's, he's a steeper. He's 40 yards behind. Jake: And he might have, might not even had his, he might have bye. Did he play his bye yet? Justin: Yes. Okay. So they're exactly the same runner. So I guess, I guess, I guess Fitzpatrick's a runner then. I love it when you're wrong. I'm just a brother. He's the eighth. Blake Bortles is the eighth highest running and Fitz is the ninth. They're not runners. That's not a runner. Oh name the number one. What's the number one and what's how many yards per game? Tammy and 343. And how many yards per game? 42. Yeah, that's a lot. Okay. And next... Russell Wilson. And how many yards per game? 37. Yeah, that's running. And by the way, those are two running quarterbacks who run for more than those normally. But like, Bortles is average per game. Yes. Is 22. Yes. So if you like, sort it by yards per game for quarterback, he's in the top 10. So it's not like he's not a runner. I guess you're defining runner So Ryan Fitzpatrick some honor in there's like Gino Smith yards per game If you do it that way like cuz he's only played one game. He ran for 34 yards He's a he's definitely a runner playing Gabbard ran for 32 yesterday, whatever Jake: Anyway, well, we said I want to look at Let's see how many yards he had last year running just fits Justin: Oh, he got hurt, he broke his leg. Jake: 184, 225 the year before in the Titans. What was that year? What was the big year? 2012 or Justin: 2011? 10, 2009. Anyway, prior. Crow.
51:02 Justin: Didn't finish yesterday's game. Nope, we thought he got benched, but he didn't. clone didn't start yesterday's game. Jake: Ah, he was questionable up to the game. He'll probably play. I feel like he's the one that they're gonna, I thought they thought Mango could go. I think the clone was the one they thought, okay, we can wait a week, we can survive. And they did survive. He's gonna wanna play against Rexy. Justin: Buster Screen was limited, he played, Devon Smith warmed up, didn't play. I don't feel like was on the field. Didn't even see him on the field. Powell sell out. Owusu Concussion should be out forever. Jake: Why do we keep getting, like why is Ridley not in there just to change his stuff up? Don't know why running so poorly why not just like try out a guy who's like a new really good Stacy any chances Justin: yesterday. It was ivory 23 chances go or 26. All right. All right. So we've got the bills. What kind of shenanigans is this asshole pulling? Well, we already know one, which is the reason Jake: we named this captain obvious, which is that he's announced to the NFL that he's having IK and Pinale. Be the captain of the Buffalo Bills. I didn't think he was on the team He is and they pulled him up from practice squad three weeks ago. Okay, so he is this is I Actually kind of like it I love it because I think it takes a little bit of the respect that the guys in the locker room have for him and kind of So I think it's a shitty thing to do this isn't funny Like when I think when the when the Jes did in London and we put out our three special teams players and you said it Was goes. Oh cuz they love the kicking whatever Yeah, whatever there was a you know, and this is something Rex has always done. He's always put the the team of the hometown guy On your team like we put Chris Johnson because he was on the don't put IK who punched the starting quarterback Justin: I feel like we should do that. I think we should do this and throw out Gino as the cap, the honorary captain of the game, Gino Smith. That would be fucking funny. We're going to go with our captains, because we don't we don't do this. Well, we do do this shit, but for this. Well, no, he our current coach doesn't do this stuff. I'm saying he did in London. He put out the special teams. Right. But that he doesn't do the. I'm going to put Gino out there to fuck with you. I'm kind of glad he's doing it because I think it's going to Jake: piss off the Jets a little bit. I know it's gonna piss them off. And I think there's like one guy that's actually gonna piss off. You know that guy's gonna be? Geno Smith. No, because he has no impact on the game. No, I'm not even a guy who has an impact on the game. Who I think if you kind of get him angry, plays angry and could actually do really well. And who has no tie to Rex, it's easy. Justin: Dorell? No, Dorell's a SUGAR! Fits! No. Marshall? Marshall. Why? Marshall? Oh, Marshall loved Gino. Jake: He stayed with him for three months over the season. He liked Gino. I think this is going to piss off Marshall, so I'm predicting a really good Marshall game.
54:02 Jake: He's gonna play out of his mind. I don't know why I just feel like that's gonna happen Well the shenanigans what do you so they they've admitted in the interviews this week What's some shenanigans some of the finding some of the players? They said we really like him. We like him as a coach like we like him So do you think as a Jets if you're taking off your Jets? Broadcasting whatever and you're now a Jets fan. Yeah, like feel like Sorry the other way around sorry no be a Jets player who like played with him for two three years Okay, you feel like they? Do they feel sorry for him like he was? He they liked him very much and were sorry to see him go or do you see it as? He's more on because I think jet fans feel a little bit like he's a traitor He went to the bills. He you know, you know wasn't a very good coach at the end like was kind of stupid Justin: Like, where do you feel like they're if I'm a player player? I think it's hard for a player because what a player can't or shouldn't really think, and I don't think they do think this way is. Man, he got screwed because if they only gave him the talent that's on this team, right? The last couple of years, instead of what that. Idiot idzic did for the last two years right? He'd probably still be coaching I don't think that I don't think that they can allow themselves to think that way about Their teammates and the players that they played with and other guys in the league because it's a little disrespectful Whereas we can sit here and be like they gave him a bag of shit the last the last two years to play with And I think there are some guys who are on the Jets who probably really love Rex, right? Who really have a lot of respect for him and probably there are probably some who like, Oh, I wish Rex was still the coach. But others, I'm sure that they'll just look at it like You know what? I've been in league for Paid no mind to us for six years. We're about to drop. We're about to drop some some points on your ass Jake: You and well special defense and you brought up a good point the other day, which you do once a year just in case You know like every two years. Yeah every two years. Maybe it was a half a good point then Which was that? when we as the the Jets have faced Fitzpatrick when he was on the Bills, that you have a gut feel, and I feel the same way. I feel like every time he came up and we had Rex, and I always feel like, I'm not afraid of this guy.
57:03 Jake: Fitzpatrick, are you serious? I feel like he beat us once, because I feel like there's one game Justin: in that season that he was really rolling. No, they beat us one time when... I think it was like an overtime game where they beat us like 9-6 and Sanchez had like five picks and like four. Yeah They never move the ball on us Right. So that's a little concerning very Jake: And the Buffalo Bills although they just beat up on I think a shitty team. So I'm not I'm not looking at this. I Think they're kind of us like they're kind of the Jets., they kind of have They're being hit by injuries left and right. I think, you know, if you look at their positions, they're a defensive team. They've got lots of talent on defense, lots of talent on the lines, right? They're, they have a running game, right? They have runners who can, the different type of runner. Justin: They have two, I'm I'm- Jake: Who's not asked to do a lot? And can really move. We don't have to travel, right? Right. And we get a home game. Right. That's it. Justin: They have to travel. They just played a division. Well, finally, they played played hard. Were they in Miami? No, they're in. Yeah, because that would be unfair. Jake: That would be unfair. Right. No, they were at home, but still they got to try. That means they got to come down a day early. It's been a whole day. They don't get to do anything with like it's a gone day for them. They got to travel down the pike come down on Wednesday. So that game's gone. They don't have today. They basically have one day to prepare for this game. So I feel like that's a little of an advantage to us. Sammy Watkins just came back from nowhere yesterday. Just became like the guy again. He'll be on Revas Island. He'll just be injured again. He'll be on Revas Island. Just fine. But I feel like they're just kind of like a mirror of us. And... Generally, you're gonna they can put up points that have an offense Justin: They don't have a quarterback who you're afraid of no one's afraid of fits and no one's afraid of 10 of 11 Jake: If we're going to get beat, right, the way I can see them beating us is. Is a way that we generally don't lose, which is just being torn up through the ground, right? Having McCoy just tear us a new one.
1:00:03 Jake: If that happens, we're, if you look at the stat line and McCoy has over a hundred yards, we've lost. I just, that's it, we've lost. If we can stop that shit, which I think we have the defense to do it, although again, he's the guy who can hit the edge and then gone, where Crow misses a tackle and our third safety's out there and he misses a tackle and Harris misses a tackle and then all of a sudden, you know, he's 80 yards down the line, Like, that's it. That's to me, I'm sure Tyrodi will have some great plays. I'm sure he'll run for 50, 60 yards. But if he's doing it, not McCoy, not their running backs, and they're not, because you know what Rex wants to do. Rex also running up your ass. He doesn't want his quarterback thrown at 50 times or 30 times or 15 times. No. Because he knows that that's not the way they're going to win. They're not going to win. If Tyra Taylor has to throw it 30 times, they're not winning. Right. To me it's really easy as a matchup for what we need to do. The question is, we always thought our secondary was going to be good this year. And they started off good, but they've been terrible the last couple weeks, giving up to like... Second year quarterback and here comes second year quarterback. It's like the same matchup. It's Carr and what's his face? It's facing an Allen. It's like it's like the second year guy or third. Third year fourth year. I think power tow has been around for a couple of years and like one speedy guy. And that's all it needs. Just hit that guy. Somehow get him open and off Revas Island and then hit him as hard as you can and it's a touchdown. I feel like that's the shit we have to stop. Have to stop that. And we have to be able to drive the goddamn ball when we need to. I was so pissed off yesterday screaming, you were so mad at me because I was like getting all negative. It's like we can't just drive the ball. Like I wanna see us get the ball. multiple times and just go drive down the field not this first in you know first in ten run for half a yard Oh or run for negative two yards okay second and twelve okay try to try to get it now third and third and eight oh then we hit a guy for five yards or eight yards great we make it but then it's like we couldn't just drive like a really nice consistent drive down the field and I feel like that's the only way we're gonna beat them is if we can just drive down the field and score without having to like, again that last minute and a half that came just drives me crazy. We should have just been able to drive. We couldn't do it. So I feel like we got very lucky with a lot of turnovers and special team stuff that happened yesterday which we normally don't go our way. Justin: Like we don't usually get the special team stuff. So that's it. To me it's. All right, enough of you already. What's, what a score. Jake: I have a bad feeling about this game, but I never pick against my jets. So I think it'll be close. 23, 22. Near jets. That's my score. I think I'm gonna win by a point.
1:03:04 Jake: Don't think it's gonna be pretty. I think it's me back and forth. Most Thursday night games, I think are low scoring. There's a whole thing about it. Like there's like Infantasies sit your Thursday night players if you can. I mean both teams are gonna be just, I don't know, a fourth quarter. They might be just crawling. I mean, they just played like It's so unfair, but I really hate Thursday. I love it for this. Oh, we also talk about the uniforms. There's gonna be these two brand new uniforms. It's the color of the night or color of the night. There's a night for- Justin: I don't like anything about Thursday night football. Jake: Oh, it's great. We get to go watch. First of all, it's great because Thursday night football usually sucks, but now we get to go to it. So it'll be great. Yeah, I just don't like it. And we get all Sunday. Then we get all Sunday to watch. All right, so- How do we beat these fuckers? Justin: Here's the deal. Wow, motherfucker. Your score is like crazy. Jake: So... This is not gonna be fun. Justin: It's the, uh... It's the first time we get to really feel like,, I don't know. I feel as though we have a guy who's composed enough and at a point in his career that he can handle whatever is going to be thrown at him. The Jets over the course of many years under Rex the spot is the middle Decorland that's where Eric Decker has been making a living this year. So Eric Decker in the slot Like Rex For better or worse plays his defense like he does his thing and if he decides This guy's covering this guy like he doesn't often double team a guy Jake: He doesn't I do that I pray to the Lord Justin: Jesus that he decides and not to do that and and he often he just won't have just doesn't do that stuff He just doesn't do that stuff to use guys for other things So I feel like we're gonna have a really hard time running the ball again. Oh yeah. But I feel like the middle of the field is gonna be opened up for Decker. And then once they decide to slide, Slippity slide over. Help out. It opens up for Marshall. And they're just gonna go back and forth. Just opening the field for each other. And. I don't think you're gonna get very many sustained drives like you want But I also don't think the Bills are gonna be doing that either It's gonna be a very defensive minded game
1:06:02 Justin: lots of people trying to run on each other that isn't gonna work and a 14 10 victory at the end of the day There's two scores man. Don't get too excited I was very upset. Not really at you, but at people in our section yesterday. Jake: Oh yeah, we can- you wanna have this debate? Cause I'm not on- I'm not on you with this. I don't agree with you. Justin: Umm... I don't think you should be booing. If you feel... like... you need to boo... Yes. Just shut up. Jake: Okay. Justin: Like sit on your hands... go to the bathroom and yell about it or something. But what the team doesn't need is to hear your ass booing them as they're walking off the field. They know what they did. They know they fucked up. They don't need you to rub their fucking face in it. And by booing, you're not being a good fan. You're being kind of like a shitty fan. Shit fan. Mm-hmm. So, I was rather upset at so-called fans in our section. By the way, it wasn't me. I was in the bathroom. No, it was some dude wearing binoculars. What the fuck? Where's binoculars at games anymore? Welcome back to the 80s douchebag Yeah, he was just booing like like boo How did you feel someone just showed up at your job at my job and booed me that you're being paid to do? Yes, and they're like Jake: Boo you want you suck at your job. All right, let's go counterpoint this episodes almost over an hour Counterpoint. Justin: No, there's no counterpoint to this. There's no reasonable one that I will listen to. Jake: Well you're gonna listen to it. Oh, hear it. I'm not gonna listen to it. Okay, well that pretty much defines you as a human being. My counterpoint is I'm a fan. I'm gonna just say me because I have booed the team. I think first of all you shouldn't boo. Like a player when I forgot who it was who someone got hurt and they or no it's cheered They cheered when someone got hurt like when painting got hurt that it was cringe-worthy. That's terrible So don't do that but if if you as a fan who show up to a team who pay your money who you go to the you support them you Yell and scream both good and bad and you support your team both financially and with your time and with your vocal cords that are now blown from screaming yesterday, if I'm a passionate fan and I want to tell the team that they're doing great, I can do that. If I want to tell the team that they're not doing great and I'm disappointed in what they're doing, I can do, too do that too. That's part , you, you can- you can do it. Justin: I just don't like because I don't like I hear you don't like booing. I know you know what if you're upset
1:09:03 Justin: Yell about what you're upset about I don't like the situation Yeah, like yell it come on bowls. Why you couldn't put something together there, but you know that but no one can you wing it? That's the point. Like, why do you yell defense? Come on defense, like on 3rd down. Why do you get up and yell? Jake: These guys, well because I'm supporting the team. Right, but can they hear you? Well, they can if there's 80,000 of us doing it. Well, right. If there's 80,000 people yelling, boo! And then when they're booing, and then when they're booing it, they can hear that too. Justin: Just realize that you're not... You're not... What you're doing is not productive. Jake: I don't know why it has to be productive. This is where I think that you think that there's a productive or not productive. Justin: Yeah, it's- You're fans of a team. You get to, you're a fan. You get to do that, but if you think about it a little bit differently and you think about, wow, I'm a fan, fun, I'm here, I actually could influence this game. I actually can I had can have a positive on this game by being loud I'm the only person in our section who gets up, but I can be third down But I could also have a negative impact house. Oh my booing and then Heads go down and like why the fuck are they booing us? This is our home These are our fans, we're winning, why are they booing us? Because they just had a terrible whatever it was. They don't need boos. Okay, well... You can definitely impact the game both ways. I think that's... Jake: I think those multi-millionaires on the field who are paid millions and millions of dollars a way... It's not irrelevant. I... Listen, I don't think it's a good thing, but I also understand it, and as a fan, I think I have the right, if I want to, to boo. Because there's some times where it's boo worthy. Objection relevance. Yeah. By the way, I've heard you booed a game. I don't boo a game. Yeah, no, no, no, I've heard you boo a game. Justin: I don't make the sound boo. Jake: I've heard you boo at the game. Oh, so you're yelling. So wait, wait. So you're yelling. You fucking cocksuckers get off the field because you suck. That's okay. Justin: I don't think I'd ever do that either. I will yell negative things, but I will not. But I don't know why is it up to one fan to tell another fan what he can't yell. It's any fan can tell any other fan what they can and can't do really sit down get out Jake: Yeah, I can turn around and be like okay, shut the fuck up Justin: All right, just like he had a comment for me as you walk past and I am I am a I shoved him down the stairs you if you know Jake: I did not shove him if you know you shouldn't do that and you'll get thrown out and there's another person down there who Was getting rowdy. Yeah, no, that was bullshit No, she was not being Justin: Fan in our section almost got thrown out first standing but she wasn't being rowdy Jake: She was being rowdy to the person behind her Justin: No, she was standing and the person behind her was like, can you sit down and she's like I'm at a fucking football game Jake: But she was not but she was also not standing
1:12:01 Jake: for the teacher standing during offense first of all when everybody else is sitting down listen just courtesy I don't know I would stand the entire game I told you this I was Justin: standing in our game I don't care standing in Foxburn it works well there you go I would Jake: stand and but and and no one's ever told me to sit down when I'm standing for whatever if for a third down someone says get sit down I'll be like shut the fuck up all right Justin: I think in this fucking podcast this podcast is over. You suck. All right Jake: Boo. Yeah, you're booing me on this Alright, so we're both putting just the win let's go guys. We'll be there. I'm a we're taking your dad. Yeah Yeah, I don Justin: Don't think that's I think his record with us is very bad. My dad is not a positive Jake: He's a Patriots game, enjoys that. Eagles game. Didn't he come to the Eagles game? Did he come to the Eagles game? He did not go to a game this year. No, Redskins. He came to the Redskins. Justin: This year he did not go to a game. Yes, he was there. Well, not with us. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Anyway, until then, we'll be back next week. Boo to all of you. Jake: Just download. Don't listen. Justin, Jake saying, let's go, Jess. S.T.A.R.S. Thank you.