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00:20 Jake: Welcome to Jet Kingdom Podcast, longest running New York Jets podcast ever! I'm Jake, joining me 249 times, almost 250 times in a row. Justin, Justin, how are you doing today? I'm all right. Thanks. You were just recently complaining about the checking them, uh, fantasy league and people trying to, yeah, trying to get there, not having people on IR. Justin: Yeah. Jake: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I feel about it. Like, guys on IR. Yeah, I feel like it's one of those things of it's like what will be allowed. I feel like IR is kind of on the fringe. Putting someone who doesn't even play on the jets, like, but it's still marked as the jets, is kind of really bad. Very fringe. Fringy, I would say. Fringy. See you next time. Also don't know how to use this stupid ESPN website. It's kind of dumb. We'll say it's terrible. I don't even know how to like change my How do you even just like change things? Yeah, what do you? What's going on? Why do this on the mobile apps? I really don't even know how to do anything All right, can we not talk about this and talk about the Jets instead do whatever the fuck you want, man I'm going to I'm gonna talk about the Jets So Guess what we won Jets are four and one so good. I think I have us at four and one All right, you did not have us at four and one you guys losing You're losing to the Eagles. I think well, we lost the Eagles. Yeah, I think that's it I think I had us at four and one. I don't think so. I wish you had kept it somewhere So we can go back. I wish I did. Yeah, I did you said I didn't You suck. Um, so let's talk about the Jets versus the Redskins game This was a game that we both went to. That is a true statement. We took a Redskins fan. Sort of. Sort of Redskins fan. Not really a Redskins fan. I don't know, that's not fair. And was another game of what I would consider... I don't know. I feel like this is a team that if the Jets actually got it together and played a full game without kind of like stuff happening to them what happened that you I really watched this game me too and Two fumbles in interception. We gave away the ball three times four if you want to count a bullet. Oh yeah okay. Five, four times. Yeah. Including a a block pun the end zone for a touchdown. Yeah. I mean

03:00 Jake: it feels, again what I was gonna say is I feel like the Jets are a team that if we played at our potential like like without the mistakes so like against against Miami and then we're winning and this is why no one's really talking about it but like Like 166 yards of penalties against Miami, something like that's, it was like crazy. And then this team, we give away the ball four times, including a touchdown to Special Teams play. Special Teams has been terrible this year. Punting has been bad. Returns have been mediocre, if not bad. Just I'm waiting for this team. I mean cuz I know it's waiting for I'm waiting for them to show up and play like a full Clean game because we're playing scrubs You play you play win the game play you play when the game you play you play But I mean, I'm like so excited that we're winning and yeah, you just get over yourself No, you get over yourself. You get over yourself mister. I am happy. We're winning. I just I feel like this is kind of a, the record doesn't show who we are, even though, you know, it shows exactly who we are. We're four and one. I feel like it shows that we have a very good defense. We have a awesome defense and a great run stuffing defense. We have a really. Great second half defense. Yes, the way we can. But here's the thing. We tend to get off the games a little slow at the start of games. Like that's been a thing all all all season long. Like we're seem to get off a little slow. Seems weird now after a bye. Maybe that's you know, that's expected. And we seem to. to kind of try to shoot yourselves in the foot a couple times. Now we recover, which is great. But for takeaways, you know, it's kind of like, I don't know. And again, I look at Fitzpatrick, and I rewatch that game, and I rewatch those plays. And I'm like, some of those plays, he's just being saved by... the greatest wide receiver that's ever played for the Jets this year. Um, he was making, I mean, if you think about the place he's made, whether it's the, whether it's the play this game, whether it's the one-handed catches, whether it's the stripping the, the intercepted ball, this, or whether it's powering through to get to the, I mean, he has made a highlight film that if it continues, we're gonna look back at this and say, can you believe what happened on the field of the Jets for this year? This guy, Brandon Marshall, what he did and he is saving Fitzpatrick's ass. Don't you feel like he's he's just saving his ass? Yeah, I mean, almost every game. I'm not a huge Fitzpatrick fan. I mean, I don't I don't think that he's been. you know some great shakes I mean five games seven picks if there if he was

06:13 Jake: and Eric Decker. Yeah, it's second option. Nine touchdowns, seven interceptions. Yeah, really cool. What the hell, man? And let's talk about like of those touchdowns. Three I can think of. Two I'm thinking were just like. Unbelievable plays by somebody else. Not like he threw the greatest ball ever. That happens all the time. that play with Brandon Marshall scoop the ball off the ground, a duck that he's picked up and then swept aside two players, two defense. That happens all the time. I have never seen that play all the time. Are you b,?., are you Uh, plays like that. I don't know. Again, our defense is number one in points per game. That's awesome. We're number one in yards per game. So I think those are kind of the only two ways that you measure a defense. So we're kind of the number one defense. I think we have the number one defense and we'll see. I'd like to play a number one offense. Let's see. We are a number. We're number two and rushing yards a game. We're number two in passing yards per game. I all I can feel and every time we say this all I can feel is like We don't have a lot of sacks No, the bottom of the league in sacks. Yeah weird. That is weird. Very weird But yeah, I never thought we were losing this game even at halftime And I think Washington was winning at 1310. I think I was like, yeah, whatever we have the ball. We'll be fine, right and I never thought for a second. I also knew going in that in the four games that we've played, we had only given up three second half points total. Yeah. And now we've given up 10 because of a blocked punt in the end zone. Otherwise, and if that game was any closer. You know that happened in the final five minutes right game with that we were winning Marshall or something right like ivory wasn't even in the game. It was like sack Stacey a I will say again other than my pessimism. I've really been enjoying the game. I'm realistic I'm loving the team. I'm just I'm really here's the thing. I've been I've had my What season what what what? Year did we go five and one oh nine was it oh nine we went five or three and oh

09:02 Jake: Okay, I just feel like then we lost but that was the year that we went three and oh and I think we finished like nine And seven but made the playoffs and then made the run to the FC championship game The next year we were I think eleven and five. I don't know if we started off as hot Yeah, there were other years like you know in recent history the the five-year I think we were eight and three, right? 2010 I think we were also like eight and two or eight and three collapsed Yeah, we were like eight and two or eight and three in the Pats were also eight and two and eight or eight and three And that was when they beat us 45 to three and put us in our place, but then we beat them In the in the playoffs. Yes, so other a,, I think it's at this point I think you have to No, yeah. I mean, I, I, again, when you pick something before the season, don't know what the other London like they were right. That kind of thing. Cleveland and Indy when we caught them probably maybe you they're they're clowns. If you, look at our schedule. So we know we're playing New England this week and we'll talk about it. Yes, we will. But then we've Dallas they could be they could be coming on at that point Romel probably Kislyak

12:00 Jake: Like six more. So you every if you just go through this and you say okay, we beat Oakland beat Jacksonville We'll split with Buffalo so give us a. Like watching I don't know what you're seeing because we're scoring seeing really ready offense We're scoring and maybe our defense is really good I agree, but I think doesn't good defense make shit make any offense, kind of look Shit, I've also looked at the the quarterbacks we've played against and their shit and your luck is shit Yeah, when we played him, he was shit, and for the first three games, we played him, he was shit. He was shit last week. Dude, you're saying like Andrew Luck is not a good quarterback. This year he is a terrible he's look terrible. He's throwing more intercepts ever. He is his weapons are an interception. Okay So I don't say a backup quarterback in week one You see a, okay, good quarterback in week two. You see a, week three was? Philly, that's a good offense. A crappy quarterback. A guy who's... who's... terrible. But they put up points. That quarterback is terrible and you know it. Still put up points. Sanchez is better than Sam Bradford. I stick by that. Yes. So crappy quarterback. Why are you just saying quarterback? It's offense. That's a good offense. They put up points. Miami, we crushed them. Botanical's not terrible. He's not terrible, but he's not very good. Like, he's not... That's the one I would say he's like, he's in the above average class. And Washington is a really good running. running team and they ran for no yards. That's true. So why can't our defense take another team out of what they want to do and make them look like shit? I think why is it that we're playing shitty teams not We're making the teams look like shit because I don't think we've played the team You're being I don't think we've played your teams. You're bullshit, dude. You're a shitty way of thinking about it. No, it's It's a look at our schedule say we've played shitty teams or we made them look like shit up on little kids in the in The playground now when someone looks at their skills and they're like, oh the Jets. Yeah, they go to like They were gonna beat the hell out of yeah, and guess what? We beat the fuck out of them Listen I'm not unhappy. I'm just seem unhappy. No, I'm not you're thinking about this like as though we Were the cause I think you're thinking of it as like It was more of an effect of that team being crappy. So of course we were going to play good against them. I think it's a little bit of calm, a little bit of calm-bae. And I'd like to think that it's more the fact that we take teams out of their comfort zone.

15:02 Jake: And the true ultimate test is this coming week. And that's what I think my whole point is. This is the week that I am either going to say this is a... is a valid, really good team, and it's not really about win or loss. It's about how the game goes, or this is a team that has just had a very good schedule and has played against some crappy teams and gotten teams when they were down, and we kind of hit them earlier before they got good. So, you know, taking out the quarterback in the first game on the first drive, and then you get Johnny Manziel in the back, I mean, it's like... He might be cut and be gone from that team and win. Yeah, but who do you play the Jets? Oh, yeah, like irrelevant. No, it's not irrelevant. Anyway, let's talk about our favorite game. Let's talk about your night of the game and play the game. Night of the game and play the game. All right, so We were sitting there and I did you rewatch this game? Yes, I did. I watch the Condensed I watched the condensed on game. I go the bot game. I bought it. I wanted to watch games I was that so good by the way, we were just talking I won't be able to watch this Pats game live. I have to wait. So everybody tweet him. My phone will be off When does the game actually become available on Game Pass? I am T-vowing it, I'll probably watch it that way anyway, but Game Pass cuts all the crap out for me. Next day. Next, oh forget it then. Yeah, next to it. I'm thinking of what they have to do. It's. Well they edit it pretty well. So alright. So my night of the game, and while we were watching this live, you were saying, oh, we can't run up the middle. Like we weren't running up the middle. But we really were. We were running it right up there, ass boy. Yeah, but our big plays were on the side. No, they were up the middle toss, right? They were toss kind of counter plays. And then Ivory was busting it right through the middle and then he'd kick it out. So I thought that was really great. I was interesting game plan. We hadn't seen that running play before. So it was kind of an interesting thing. It just dawned on me before we do the nights, but I'm alluding to I'm gonna pick Chris ivory by the way Yeah, Chris ivory great. He had a great game. He could be the night of the season But before we get to the the play of the game for me, yes Sheldon Richardson Yes, and he played a lot way more than we thought he was yes. He played More than the majority of the snaps. I think he played like 50 something out of 60 something snaps like he was in the game Queen cobalt is not so much He's not long for this team. Yeah, he's played like two, snaps of that game. He barely played. Yeah, he was not very good

18:06 Jake: but Williams Harrison are kind of the four guys that are just rotating through and and snacks is kind of the guy who snaps got sucked because we were up and they were throwing right there was no need for the run stopper to be in there. He already did his job. He shut that run down. Anyway Sheldon was back and it was nice to see he had a shared sack with Muhammad Wilkerson Yep. But my play of the game came in the third quarter. We got the kickoff because we deferred. We went down the field and we scored a field goal and we tied the game 13-13, which was great. Two plays later, Dorell Rivas picks off. That was going to be my play. Mr. Kirk Cousins. Alright, and... Like one play after that, Fitsy runs it in for an 18 yard touchdown and the pick was Earlier in the season, okay Early in the season you'd see a ball that would be completed over by like. Like Revas's side of the field and you'd be like what the fuck right and It looked like he wasn't even guarding the guy Because they were doing this like pass off right kind of thing like We used to be like passing it off to the slot guy and we just would take that guy's person if they were sort of crossing and It was the same thing and I bet Washington saw on tape like if we run this type of action like this guy will be left alone while Rebus kind of like faked it. Yeah and went back and it was like I didn't pass him off motherfucker. No he didn't. Throw it at me. Yeah he did. Just threw it right to him. It was great. And if he had jumped it. Two seconds more and they said this in the press conference like he could have taken it. Yeah watching it though Because I recall earlier in the season seeing like the pass off and it not working. Well, this was like fake pass off Totally worked. He just totally duped. You broke the thing you picked a defensive play Bullshit, but that's my play and my night Nobody's needing anything else. Nope. My play the game, my night and my play the game, I'm going to make the same thing. And it's Brandon Marshall. I am. So if you think I'm being negative, Nelly, I am ecstatic. I just and this is where I'll go the other way. You'll be like, you're being super over the top. I just have not seen a player play like this.

21:02 Jake: I just, and maybe it's because I'm watching him so much and I don't go and watch Julio Jones's plays. I don't go watch Calvin Johnson's Every Snap. I don't go watch whatever. But like, I just can't remember a time where I've watched a, and you know, I think I hate, I don't hate the term, but the term playmaker, and it's like a guy who can turn a pile of poo into something. really, really good, and it has been play after play is the recovering the strip, the stripping the interceptor, whether it was the powering through two defenders in, even in this game he had two plays that were just like, huh, that one one-handed grab that otherwise could've been picked or gone, whatever, he just passed it, and he has the ball, I mean, just unbelievable. And then the play, which is You know this you know now Fitzpatrick was being he was being pressured and he had a guy in his face And so the ball came out is a little it was behind him way behind him This is good. We're just the four like it would hit the turf man Marshall stops comes back to the ball reaches down like maybe two inches off the ground, picks it up, and then with two guys standing there, could've tackled them. Now maybe they're just the worst tacklers in the world. He kind of swings one arm, pushes them both away, pushes one guy, the other guy kind of got pushed into the other guy, and then just runs in for touchdown. Just like taking a play that was probably a, not going anywhere, might've been, I don't know if it was a third down play or not. Thank you. It might have been like, oh, we got a punt or whatever. It takes it and turns it into a touchdown. And this is the thing that's changing this team. This team has been changed. Now, Chris Ivory is doing it as well. But this team is being changed by those plays. And he has had not one, not two, not three, but four or so plays that are just game-breaking plays. Not to mention he's tried to hand off the ball or whatever, or lateral. world. By the way, I rewatched this game and did you see he almost did it on another play? There's a play where he's running and he's getting tackled and he's and he looks one way or the other and I was like, don't you fucking dare. I will I will beat you if you do that again. He kind of looked like do I get anybody else here? Maybe he was looking for the defense. No, he's being tackled. He was going down. Maybe I'll be able to find it in the replay. Anyway, I'm so, so impressed. Again, I don't think I've seen this kind of dominating. We've said it every week. I keep saying it every week. And every week he kind of does it to another level. I don't see I've seen this kind of dominating wide receiver on our team. You say Kishon or whatever. I don't think I feel like this guy's playing at a level of that. And statistically he is. that I just haven't seen. He's having his best year ever, that's for sure. Well, and this is a guy who's been in seven pro bowls and like his current pace is absurd. Yeah, so I mean, I think it's the first time he's ever had four straight hundred yards. So I'm gonna ask you this week, have you ever seen a one a stretch like this? I mean, again, I can remember.

24:01 Jake: You know, Kishan being great and I can remember there being some times in the Herman Edward years where Where we had like three guys going where it was like coals and Corbett and Santana Moss all kind of going at the same time It was like who you gonna cover and Pennington was kind of pick picking people apart I also remember as a child thinking you know, Al Toon was like the greatest thing ever. So I can't remember well enough because I was about 10 or 11 when him and Walker were playing across from each other. Like how good they really were. I don't know their stats. Probably don't translate to today's NFL so that's probably not fair to even look at even Kishan stats cuz Today Kishan the physical Wide receiver that he was he would probably Dominate right I just don't I just don't remember seeing someone and even on other teams I wonder what altunes stats even like anyway, so Awesome now you got anybody else impressed or depressed for this game Who was depressing anybody? I was depressing with some guys got hurt The putt you know what the block pump was depressing cuz we only had guys on the field. That's pretty depressing It's funny cuz I watched his whole thing the other day his whole press conference, his like eight minute press conference and he seems like a very smart guy, kinda, but we are just, what is it with us and special teams? I don't know, we have an edu- And that's the type of suggestion- We need Westoff to come back. That's what I, that if I'm concerned about this team is like that part of it, against a good team, like we were way ahead and they, that touchdown meant nothing, like really meant nothing, they wouldn't even back in it, but like- Damn if that was a close game if we were up by seven it had been played differently I think it would have but it just felt like man. I was bad. So depressing is special teams. All right Let's get to the pick them. Let's get to the pick them. How you doing, buddy? Um, okay Okay week because you saw last week things are back where they should be me above you World is good in the world again. Let's see. How'd you do you got a For last week you got a five burger. Ooh, that's not really that's not okay. I got six burgers a tough week I looked at like I knew you were up by two and then you were only up by three So I was like, all right top top pick last week with eight. That's a hard week So it's a tough week still up the New York shared jets is now leading or in tide with hold till never Till Quivert name decided. I'm both at 51. I am sticking in there at 48. So I went and- Before we move off of last, should we just throw a little quick shout out to Forgetting Brandon Marshall, Matt Callahan for meeting us at the tailgate.

27:00 Jake: Oh yeah, that's right. Thanks for meeting us at the tailgate. It was nice to meet you, bud. swing on by next time you come to a game. Awesome. Anybody wants to come on by, kids promise we'll spend four hours with you, but we will give you a beer. We'll give you a beer, we'll feed you. We got Thursday Night Game, we got the disappointing Seattle at disappointing San Francisco, and Seattle's favored by 6.5 and they shouldn't be. They shouldn't really be favored by any more than 3 points. So I'm going to take points here. It's always a tough game. I think San Francisco plays pretty tough in prime time. They're giving up these fourth quarter leads and their defense is supposed to be the strength of that team. It's like weird. Yeah, how did Greg Olson get so open when you've got the Legion of Boom? Okay, Which is their app. So Yahoo.com, so I have to have a computer. Slash like NFL or something. That'll be weird. Yeah, I. and I feel like I a computer or I'm just wondering like Apple TV. Yeah, Apple TV has an app called Yahoo Screen. But I. That's like, it's got like channels and stuff on it. Yeah, but why not watch it at 9.30. Yeah, it'd be good. Why not? Right, because it's like, and plus because the jets are, are away, so K I like Minnesota Detroit found their way they found it in fine shit They found their way and they want an over easy opponent, and Personally you're three and two Atlanta is at Tennessee. Atlanta favored by 3 1,5 coming off their first loss. Tennessee... They're the paper tag of the year, but anyway. Yeah. I think they're pretty good. You know those four games they won in like the fourth quarter? Whatever. Comebacks. He doesn't continue like that. Anyway, okay. . Whatever I don't have a good offense Atlanta favorite by three and a half Tennessee don't know if Mariota is playing

30:01 Jake: I think it's Elba gears. I'm gonna take Atlanta. I will take Atlanta three and a half's not enough Indy is hosting New Orleans Indy is favored by Four and a half with the special team play. I just saw the replay of it I don't we're watching it live. I don't know it's a little so apparently He wasn't supposed to take the snap. That's the whole thing well He's supposed to here's the thing so the guy who is supposed to snap the ball Got injured earlier in the game, okay Line then feel like Rolfe Lusperger's playing cuz how do you have Landry Jones be a favorite on the road? Kansas City is terrible Landry Jones is better than Kansas City Landry Jones Yeah on the road I hear you like first ever NFL start on the road and arrowhead your favorite by two makes no sense I think Kansas City is that bad and I'm gonna pick this as though Big Ben is starting and I'm picking Pittsburgh. I don't think that's good either but I think Tampa is better than... I'm gonna say Tampa, I think Tampa's defense is better than... and it's like if James Wilson Winston the good James Winston shows up I think it's a good, it's a good thing Alright, so we're seeing Oakland Santiago and Oakland

33:11 Jake: I- the, and I and Cowgirls, I will take the Giants to bounce back. Why does one. Drop two points? Um, because they lost. Des or because they got destroyed on Monday night? Monday night or Sunday night? I thought they played Monday. Play Monday. Yeah, yeah, probably that and as probably this I'm gonna take the Giants. I feel like you'll have this one week. This will be the one week This will be that week that mad castle like it's good. I Always like the guy off the by and he's like whatever and they've kind of practice and he has like his scripted plays Giants they keep saying this old the Giants are really good guns to run but are like 30 second against the past That's because no one needs to run against them. I Don't know. I see Dallas winning this game. So I'm gonna take the Alice demarca Murray just ran for over a hundred against them alright Sunday night, Carolina Undefeated, Carolina. Hosting Philly, giving three and a half. This is hard. That's a weird one. It's a hard one. I hate these Monday night games. These night games. These are terrible night games. Oh, Carolina Philly's fun. Who cares? Cam Newton's fun. Two teams I care less about. That's cuz you're you're in you're in AFC. Yeah, exactly. This is NFC nothing to you. Yep, I feel like the Thursday night game's better. Well it is, it's Seattle. Yeah, well how weird is it that it's better than the Sunday night? Thursday night game's usually Boosh. Well Sunday, Thursday night game is always divisional. Is always divisional. I know. Sometimes divisional can be sucky. It could but... Sometimes you get a Seattle San Francisco in there. It's a good game. It's not like San Francisco is any good. No, but there are two teams I think will put on a good show. I don't want to fill that. I'm going to take Philly. I'm going to just take the points. I'm going to take Carolina. You're just hoping for such a start. I really would love to see you play. And then lastly, Arizona is playing Baltimore. Baltimore is terrible. They're just awful. So I like Arizona by more than seven and a half points. How about that? How about them apples? Agreed. I actually agree. I actually agree. So I will say Arizona.

36:04 Jake: All right. Let's get to the pick-em. Jet kingdom pick them. Throne style. Throne picks? Throne picks. Let's do that. Want to do some throne picks? Well, you have Jets versus Washington here and our thing, so that's kind of wrong. I screwed that part up. Sorry, Jets, Pats. But we'll get to that in a minute. Yes. Let's start with Buffalo at Jacksonville and the AM over at. Wembley which we were at two weeks ago, which we've experienced It's a great home game for Jacksonville. Yep, Buffalo favorite on the road by five and a half is Is Tara Taylor playing I think he's practicing. So if Tara Taylor is playing I feel like Buffalo wins this game I don't know if they cover the spread or not. I like this close. I like it 2017 Buffalo. I don't know. I actually watched, I sent it to you this day. So I used to belong to all the forums for all the other points I'd go in on the week of and I'd play around and talk to them. I saw what you sent me. That was interesting. I still get a an email from I think it's Buffalo range and it's like their class range and it said don't the email title was don't watch this if you like Rex Ryan and it was a link to their post where they guys were posting screenshots of Bill's defensive schematics like kind of where they were and pointing out that these players were just sitting there like I told like Mario Williams in the middle of the field covering nobody. It's like it was like it's basically just like people out of position Or not playing where they would and it was trying to show that Rex Ryan doesn't always doing I don't think that's true We had Rex Ryan for what six years. Yeah, I've years he knows what he's doing Now where those guys did they know what they're doing or were they just strange plays I think if you take any playing by why was Richardson here, you know what he did when he first came over to us was he brought three defensive players with him from the Ravens. So I wanted each level alignment, a linebacker and a safety. And Leonard, he brought over Jim Leonard, Bart Scott. And I forget the name of the lineman. Oh, yeah. But it was a veteran guy like nothing special. Just a dude, a dude. And. Don't think he brought anybody with him to Buffalo on the D. I came from Palais. Yeah, I know He brought nobody with him. So it's a whole new scheme and it's complicated. I guess it is not easy Blitzen needs own blitzen from everywhere. Anyway, I don't know what buff I don't know what Buffalo is as a team I actually I don't think I've actually watched a full like watch them like because I've been watching the chat. Yeah We sort of caught them play the Giants in London when we were there. We sort of caught that. Yeah I just don't feel like I don't know what team this is like are they a good team are they a bad team?

39:03 Jake: I can't tell I feel like they're better than Jacksonville, but I feel it'll keep it close Buffalo wins 21-20 Justin: Okay. Jake: All right. So next up is Miami and they are hosting Houston and they're favored by four and a half. So they had a good win last week. Yeah, they got the new coach bump. So there's a one theory is that they changed the defensive defensive scheme, you know, the bye week and I basically went back to something that This is what I've heard that that the players like that the players like the old defensive scheme Oh, this is one of the things like they spend all this money on these guys and they're not producing So then they change the scheme. There's always the new coach bump Like there's always that game that like all the new coach we're gonna play for you coach Then they lose a game or two and they're like fuck you coach We're gonna go play golf. So I don't know. I can't tell if Joe Philbin was awful or if this is just not a good team. Oh, I think it's more... Well, think about their team. They have playmakers on the team. They have an above average quarterback. Wait, do they really have playmakers though? Yes. Who I think Jarvis Landry is a playmaker receiver. I think that's above no Lamar Miller has been proven to be a Sizable back sorry fancy guy. No, but a run up the middle get he's not even close to that guy I've a small dude. All right, and then they have Tannehill that's not he's above average He's a beep a no, it's a B plus. Yeah I'm tan. How we already said you would switch for him I would but that's cuz I put I put fits in like the C minus D plus rain. Oh, they're yeah He's not like any great shakes. They have channels fine. He's not great I'm trying to be there. In all honesty, I mean this is his fourth year? Yeah. Okay. He should be hitting his stride. He should really be better than this. Yes. He's never had a really good line. No, he's never had a really good season. You could say Mark Sanchez's first... Three seasons were way better than Tanhale's first three seasons. Well, they were. Has Tanhale made the playoffs? You know what that sound is? Yeah, I mean, you suck in such a dick. That's right. Duck butter on my nose. Did did wait. There it is. I'm slurping it. So did I love the sound effects on this podcast? Has Tanhale made the playoffs yet? No. Oh, no. No. Yeah. Yeah, I can't tell if they're bad. I mean they have players on the offense Did you watch the you watch the hard knocks when Phil was there? Yes dead fish that guy's got as much personality as table

42:05 Jake: What does that have to do with I just don't think he's a good motivator I don't think he's he never looked brilliant never it's smart. He never did anything that we thought well I had good pedigree. I mean he was the offensive coordinator for for Green Bay. Yeah, and you know what he had Aaron Rodgers, do you know how many people look good because they have someone who is good to show them they're good? You're just you're like sort of proving out the whole point. I'm earlier No, I just you know having playmakers and being good if you throw a Tano on the Jets sure we're better team But I don't think he's got shit to work with down there My Miller's not good. Kenny Stills run straight down the field. You know who they had years ago? Who played on that team with Brandon Marshall. Brandon Marshall. Brandon Marshall. And they gave him always actually caused Reavis Fitz. Yeah. He's big and strong. But anyway. So Houston is terrible. Houston's awful. Back to, I guess, another quarterback. Doesn't matter. What is it? Does he get fired up this year? No. No. No, only two years. I think three is the magic number unless you're just totally. What's disappointing is the defense isn't been like. Yeah, I think Romeo. Canella's fired. Well, you should fire him now. He's probably not. He's probably just sleeping. He is probably sleeping. Terrible. So I got Miami winning 2413, and it's only because of the opponent. Yeah. And home I think they're gonna have a little bit more this but we get to play this team Houston. Yeah, which is awesome I think that's good. We'll hopefully beat them beat up on them beat them up 29 13 Miami Okay, and then to the game in a century game of the millennium The game of our season so far and I won't be watching it live God your job, but what sucks sucks to be you let's talk about this. So we've got some injuries. I'll be watching it I'll be watching it on seven screens at the same time. You have some injury concerns. Yeah, Buster went out with a concussion. Concussion. It's probably not gonna play. Why did you say that? I feel like they give them one week. I feel like just guaranteed they say one week. I feel like that's a thing. Concussions are like not now. I mean, I don't feel like a player should. Come back that season from a concussion if we did that there would be no NFL the whole NFL would be gone Well, that's a fashion protocol great, but they really shouldn't really be coming back I mean baseball players stay out for like three months anyway So I hope screen complex they kind of need them. Well, we get back some players. You can talk about who we get back So now who can practice? I'm talking playing. Okay, but these guys can now start practicing and could play who Ridley Yeah, and In the corner Milner. Yeah, but he can't play he can't play I think no I think Ridley can play

45:02 Jake: I think he could if they decided to but they'd have to make a roster move I think they've talked about that being like kind of maybe was there a little revenge game? For Ridley you know Back to your old team. I don't know. I just want Ivory running the ball. Well, that is true. You can give me Ridley like whenever. Marcus William, what's his injury? He also was out with, I think it was a concussion too. He missed last week. Hope screen could come back because they really need a slot guy against the Pats. You really need a good slot. Guy Powell Blau do we know what the deal is don't know what he might but he was the images before the last game they kind of played for a little bit They thought it was the deal is the deal is the deal is the deal is the deal is. Yeah, that one's too early in the week. It's Wednesday. We don't have good injury. We don't have good injury and then say all of them are gonna play who cares Okay, and then we have We have this one. Oh yeah. Quincey, Quincey, Quincey. You're not gonna play on this team for four weeks. Four weeks for some bullshit. NFL policy. Seems weird because when did it happen? Do we know? Must have happened. I have no idea. They don't tell us shit. It's not from now. I think the jazz were questioning why now like why in the middle of the talks because he's a key to that running game But don't you feel like? Yeah, it really does suck I know it's weird to say like oh a receiver who has like one catch a game or whatever I write that did you see Brandon Marco Brandon Marshall's block on that big run for for Chris Ivory Jesus Christ. All right. Enough with you sucking. Yeah, there you go. But a new part of our block of our of our blocking of our run game like he's like the blocker. He's he's the blocking tight end. Right. Of so missing him is going to be kind of big. It seems weird to say about a receiver doesn't really catch the ball, but he does other things that are very valuable. I imagine Jeremy Curly will take his place, but he can't do the same things Enunmo does, so Decker will do those things, but it's sort of a tell. You see Decker doing that motion. He's gonna block for the guy. He's gonna block. I mean, hopefully you're smart enough not to do that. Like that you can. Playup tendencies and well the best thing the best in the business at taking away tendencies and all that is the guy We're playing against his bell a check He's the always out we're playing the best in the business at taking away the things you do well who's uh? playing this week Playing Patriots man five and oh Patriots they five and oh yeah, they missed one week. Yeah, we're playing for first place That's what's crazy. This is when being a- We win, we're in first place. This is when being a Jet Fan's terrible. Because you just, it's like all stacked up. It's like playing the Patriots for first place.

48:01 Jake: Name C, East. It's like, oh, you can just feel it. The 5 and 0. So let's talk about what's the key- Someone's gotta beat him. What's the key to the castle beat me? Someone's gotta beat him. It could be the Giants in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Playing the regular season too. That's true. Well, they'll lose the suit The only way I've ever seen us beat the Pats is by getting a Tom Brady and Their line is banged up. So their left tackle is For the season so they had to move their right tackle over to left tackle and then their right tackle got injured a little bit In the last game against the Colts. So I think they have a backup to the backup situation going on, right? so The only time that I've ever really seen us Beat them is when we get pressure up the middle up the gut right right in his face Because if it comes off the edge, he just steps up and throws them off right and it's like whatever so Pressure up the middle. Hello Sheldon It's your day boy. Harris get up in there on the blitzes pressure up the middle and then Fucking Edelman Stick Reavis on him. I don't care where he's playing. What we do with Gronk just double him You know what? You can shut down block. I think that he wanted to you you you just the point is you don't have enough guys I'm feel to stop everybody right so If you it'd be an interesting experiment to throw Reavis on Gronk just to see what would happen. It'd be interesting. I think he's strong enough. Yeah, I just don't know if he's tall enough. I think Gronk someone he's just got put two guys on one over one. I think what you do is you just bump the shit out of him at the line with a linebacker. And don't let him get out there. The problem with Gronk is when they split him out wide and it's like there he is with like Gilcrest on him. And it's like, fuck. Because that's the situation where I'd be like, fuck it. Reavis, you got him. You split out wide, he's a receiver. He's just a big receiver. Cover him. He's not a big receiver. He's a monster. Whatever. He's just big. He's not faster than you. Like do your things, top them. So there's my keys. Also, Ivory tends to kill the paths, so keep that rolling. Mine is... If you remember the last couple years, he's really had some great games. Here's how you know we won this game. Yeah. Since you won't be watching the game because you're not a fan, look at your foot. Before the game. Okay. Look in the foot at one o'clock. Look at your foot my right foot or my left foot Right foot. Okay, and then look at your right foot at 422. Yeah, if there's a hole in your foot

51:00 Jake: Mmm, we've lost. Ah, if there's not a hole in your foot. Yeah, we've won Oh, so we didn't shoot ourselves in the foot What if you bellow chick cheats and shoots you in the foot then then we all win. I don't know what This has to be, we've been praying for this, I've been saying this for weeks. We need clean games. How many penalties do you have last week, do you know? It was like one. One penalty. Yeah, that's it. Right? That was good, they fixed that. They got the penalty thing under control. But then we had people just coughing the ball up. I think this is a game that if we just play a clean good. . Solid game. I don't think it's be an amazing game. I just think it's be a solid game. The pads do actually require perfection. Yes. And it can be, I mean, you can have maybe a turnover, but you can't have three. You can have five penalties, but you can't have 15. You just, it has to be, you have to play at a, you know, at the A level. You can't play in your B, B and B plus game to beat up on a B minus guy. We're not playing, we're playing at the top of these are the top of the top and they're that good. So you have to not make mistakes. And I know that's just so stupid and like turnovers or whatever, but like, They take advantage of those things like no other team does. But if you give them 40 yards, they're going to score. So you can't, you just have to get them to play there. Because I don't think they're really that powerful of an offense. They are. I just think that they have a very good offense. I don't think they have a really good offense. Yes, they have the best quarterback. Yes. Top two. Top two. And they have the best tight end. They have an extremely shifty best slot receiver in the league. They have a very good running game with two guys that that I think that they I think they get out for Dion Lewis, man. They want to think of 50 yards. I'll be surprised. Watch out. I'm not worried about blunt because that running style, that thing doesn't work against us. But yeah, I know Dion Lewis. Look out because. That's how the Eagles beat us. Yeah, well they they had a running back who could come out and catch the ball or go out On the edge or whatever and that's Deon Lewis. So I look out I Just I think you have to play a have to play perfect to beat them. Yes, they will take advantage of every opportunity Yes, they will and so you have to win the coin toss because you must defer and you must let them do and you Have to drive you have to have long drives the less chance you give them This is not a good defense. They don't have a good defense. So you need to make a good nine minute drive. Let's see how good Malcolm Butler is when he has to face Brandon Marshall.

54:02 Jake: I mean I know he's good actually, but... He's been okay, yeah. So that's it. So it's a clean game. It's a... it's a... it's just not a mis... It's a mis... not always a mistake free, because you can obviously make mistakes. against the Dolphins giving up two plays for 80 yards, coughing, you know, coughing the ball up, the things that we have been winning, but those will cost us the game. So we have to take those out of the game. But if we can run the ball successfully, if Fitzpatrick can not throw in triple coverage and he can just go down the field, , I feel like he's got enough. I've seen Gino almost beat the Pats twice. We had him on the ropes. 1313 or something 2017 like we've had a block field last year. We've had chances to beat them With lesser quarterback and lesser offense. you get a brady all money, you get a brady all money, you get a brady all money, you And we put don't let him be nobody else don't let him be comfortable in there I don't I mean what I'm not so I want Reavis on Edelman because that's his safety blanket Yeah, it's his little pinky just throws him the ball like five yards away from the line scrimmage But if Reavis can just jam him up a little bit I'm really excited to see is well because this has been the opposite This is the opposite role we lived the rest where Rex talks it up every time and it's kind of fun to get into it I'll admit I got into it Post is like it's another game. Yeah, it's just it's calling it on a new England. Yeah, it's it's just the next game He like he's like I'm just not playing it up and the team is buying into it. I want to see him play a game Just play who he is like I would love I don't know if I have the stats But I want to see his blitz percentage for the first five games and then this game. I wanna see if he just, if he's just like, you know what, we think we have a good enough team just to stick with you. We don't have to do stupid shit like the Colts. We don't have to do specialty plays. We don't have to do on-site kicks. We know that if we just line up and play a clean game, we can beat you. We might beat you like 50% of the time if we played 10 times, but we can beat you. Now I'm interested to see if he can do that. And so I think the Jets are gonna win. I have to be a super optimist. If we win it's by, it's close to sound. It's you know, they don't make it easy.. So it's 2827 jets, the line is nine. Number one fucking defense and they have a 9 point. Nine. Rex would be like, See? It should be like six or seven. Yeah, nine is six. Nine is one. Or four and one. We're four and one and we have the best defense in the league. Maybe best defense. Sure. For more information visit www.mooji. Maybe I guess. I think statistically probably. All right, what's your score?

57:00 Jake: 27 13. Is that the score we beat them in the AFC Championship? In the wild card championship? No, I think that was like 28 21 or something. I think it was lower than that. We I mean the way we win games with them is not shootout. We've never want to shoot out with them. We always win games if we keep it low. Yeah. So... Under 30. Oh, that's the other way you'll know we win. If you add up, what's your 55 thing? If you add it up and we have, if either one team has over 30 points, we've lost. Because we don't do that. We do low scoring games, keep him down. Because high scoring, they get more chances they're going to win. Alright, well that's it for this week. Win the coin toss. Keep it to the castle. Win the coin toss. Alright, that's Justin. I'm Jake. We're on Twitter. We're on the Facebook. We're on everywhere. We'll be back next week with the 250th episode of this thing that we call the Checking the Podcast. Until then. As always, let's go Jets! Thank you.