Flush The Turd

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Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women.

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Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=1 @ 35.7s → Jake; other-primary cluster=0 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Jason-ref Jake cluster 1 sim=0.39; WEAK clustering: dominant speaker share 92% (labels kept: host=Jake).

00:09 Justin: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Get away! Jake: Welcome to the Jack King of podcast. Uhhh, longs running the jets podcast on the entire web. Almost flubbed it, but I didn't. My name is Jake and joining me today for the 128th time. Mr. Justin, no ass name. How you doing, Justin? Right, you just fucked me last time. I fucked you hard. Fucking me hard, I got all this hate mail. Hate mail. All those terms of hate mail. They know you last night. Hey, you're not a broadcaster, you suck. Hahahaha, that's awesome. I hate you guys. That's awesome. Alright, well we got a big agenda today. It is the Thursday edition. It's the late edition. Well if you have the Monday edition we have to the Thursday edition. The Thursday edition! Oh I love the Monday edition. It's my favorite edition. Let's hope we get the Monday edition. It's like the Sunday times. It's the Monday Jet Kingdom. The Monday Jet Kingdom. You know good things have happened at the Monday Jet Kingdom. So we're going to talk about today. We have a big agenda. We'll have some final thoughts on the Bills game. We'll do our Town Choir segment. We'll talk about other kingdoms if we have anything to say about them. We'll talk about our Fantasy Kingdom. And we'll do our jet Kingdom pick them with special guest picks We'll do our thrown picks Yep Sweet and then we will do our we'll pick the the game of the century and we'll talk about our keys to the castle So let's get into it. Let's do it first up The bills game. Yep I had a chance to rewatch on the iTunes weekly thing. Oh you did that? I got to do that tonight before the... This is the first Thursday night game by the way. So tonight I'm excited because it's the first time that I've had the N... The N... I almost said the NHL. The NFL Network. I think you're breaking another rule tonight for yourself. What's that? Well your rule that you never gonna watch any games with me. I've invited you to my house now You've invited now. You spend 10 hours with me. What are you doing? So I get this out of it get this off the podcast that's trademarked oh They heard that anyway. I put up on the iPad next to us the If you want, if you want to come over before the game, we will do a pregame rewatch of this game. Oh yeah. With the postgame presser. Yeah, it is really good. Anyway, I watched the game. I enjoy this, by the way. I'm pointing at your iPad. Yes. I enjoy this more when we're at the game and then I can watch this. Because I watch this on TV. I've seen every angle that they're gonna show me right

03:02 Jake: Yeah, it is the final thoughts on the bills game. We played great Yeah, we really did we we we stopped a for all intents of purposes a potent offense Particularly when they're home, they score a lot of home defense playing great. The offense had a really nice balanced game They looked a lot of people were saying this and it's true They looked like the Jets the Jets looked like the Jets right Jets look like the Rex Ryan Jets Right heavy defense deep running running Special teams such as those a pic. They look like the Jets. They really did their offense was balanced They they ran for more than the other team ran for They made that other team, the Bills in this case, look silly. Like, really? This is a good offense? Okay, good. They scored 30 points in every game except for the one they play as. Where they barely scored 10. They couldn't...if that game was close, they weren't scoring that touchdown again. They got news for you. There's a mentality there that...you know what? Good for Rex, I saw his Monday press conference I think and they said hey were you really happy with the way that the defense played? Like you must have been really happy. He's like well we let him score 11 points. Like he's like we let him score at touchdown at the end of the game so no not really. Like he was like that's what I want to see. His mentality is really a shutout. He wants to pitch a shutout. He wants to win 9-0. I know I think he wants to win 35-0, but he wants to win. He doesn't want his defense to give up any. Probably. Probably true. Even though 3520 is like a domination. Yeah. 9-0 I think he'd take. You know there's a point to being are you... so so here's what we're seeing with some of the best I mean the best team in football right now the Packers. Packers are by far the best team. And their offense is on fire, but their defense is being lit up. I mean the San Diego Chargers who didn't let up us, you know lit up. They didn't light anybody up San Diego this year. But they lit up the Packers like literally at will, bent them over the table and had a non-consexual sense with their ass. And I'm going to stick up for Green Bay a little bit. I feel like a lot of that is situational. I feel like Green Bay... Green Bay gave up that many yards that many points late because it was situational and they were playing the game differently. And they do play games differently than teams do because... I mean, well, they're not prevent as much as I think they are gamble. They will take risks and gamble and you know what it pays off, they scored two pick sixes in that game. And that's their defense. They will gamble, they will sell out. And when you do that you're gonna give up points, but they don't care because they know that they can out score you at the end of the day.

06:05 Jake: I gotcha. And again, I'm now looking at their schedule. Here we go. Who? Green Bay. Just to do it. Just talk a little bit about Green Bay. So first one... What is this? Packer Kingdom? Saints 34, Green Bay 42. Well the Saints can put up points on anybody. 30-23. 27 Carolina 23 well they could put up points to Green Bay 27 Chicago 17 They could put up Denver 17 is a good showing Denver 23 Green Bay 49. Oh look at that Well, hold on if you're gonna score 49 you can give up 20 that's situation They 25 Atlanta 14 and land is a good team to hold in the 14 back again is situation. We was three Green Bay 24 Green Bay 33, Minnesota 27. Minnesota has proven that they can score with Christian Conner on the field. Green Bay 45, San Diego 38. Again, situational, I feel. I feel some of that isn't situational. Here's what I would be concerned about if I were a Green Bay Packer fan. I'm not concerned about anything, but Aaron Rodgers breaking his leg. Playoff time comes. I'm looking down their schedule other than Other than the Chicago Bears None of those are good defenses the Giants are decent. They haven't played them yet. That's what I mean Yeah, oh you're looking at their past. I'm looking at their past and when they get into the playoffs They're gonna be meeting probably a team that has a good D I'm not saying they're not only they have Minnesota again Tampa Bay again Tampa Bay, Detroit Okay, but you know, they have the Giants coming up Oakland doesn't have a good D, Casey no good D, Chicago good again, Detroit we don't know. Detroit's kind of been in because it started great but then it's been kind of wandering. They're not beating up against the elite of the defenses in their season. Great season for them. I don't know how the schedule makers made the Super Bowl winning pack or something. But that's not how it works. I know it's based on the regular season and they weren't the winners of the division. They came in second. So, I'm just saying, my prediction for now is this team will walk its way into the playoffs, and then we'll hit a right up against the first good D, really good D, elite D, and they will then get crushed. There is some precedent for that, because last year they beat us 9-0. Yep. They didn't score a touchdown against the Jets last year. Nope. And they also had some trouble scoring in some games against Chicago. I remembered to get the end of the year Best thing for Packers fans is for them to lose a game Yeah, they got a losing game because get their defense get a little hungry because they won last year Their offense was great, but their defense was really great, too. It ain't great No it's not, and now we might concern a pack of packers. They have the players though. But fuck the packers, it's on to the jets. What is this? Let's go. Let's go. Towncrier, so we got some news out there in the NFL world. Really the big one. Is this pooling here or in other kingdoms? Well, let's do it here in towncrier. No, this is perfect. Let's do it here. This is sort of the big news of the week, which is that Albert Haynesworth aka Face Stomper

09:04 Jake: was released from the New England Patriots one of the big offseason pickups. Can we officially put a bow on the Patriots big offseason book? pickups put a bow on it and then Tie it up and throw it in the trash and be like you're too big offseason pickups are a bunch of shit piles of duty I think even well, I think well well thought through and and Intelligent Patriots fans few and far between will say that ice that the Pats had an awful offseason They made some big splash news or big splash pickups with big-name players that were clearly over the hill Albert Haynesworth not motivated made his big money contract in Washington Washington let him go you thought hey look this another reclamation project under a bell check he can if anyone's gonna make Haynesworth play well it's gonna be bell checking you know it Haynesworth just not good no he's in Tampa by the way he got signed he got signed again yeah he's in Tampa well because Tampa lost McCoy their their number one pick from last year in the middle they need a big guy in the middle. Hinsworth not gonna help. Ocho Cinco. Oh clearly he's done too. They won't release him though. They really should. I mean he's just taking up a roster spot for well when you think about the way that NFL rosters are structured right? you only usually carry four or five wide receivers, and generally speaking the fourth and fifth need to contribute on special teams in some sort of way to you know to sort of make their value on a team because they're not the third and fourth fourth and fifth receivers particularly the fifth receiver never on the field never on the field on offense so they have to contribute in some sort of way ocho cinco not a special teams player so he's sort of a wasted roster spot and he plays on a team because when you look at the jets roster you know curly plays on special teams turner plays on special teams you know these guys are on the roster as wide receivers but they're also playing on special teams and that solidifies their value on the team ocho cinco Not very valuable for the Pats and then add on top of it that the Pats made these two big free free agent signings They also signed, you know from us Sean Ellis James ahead of bow both starting on defense which is Alright, Ellis nice player probably still be starting for the Jets right ahead of bow. No, he was a blitzing dime Defensive back right if he was on the field in any sort of coverage situation That was not what he was on the field for and he's like starting for them That's how bad their defensive backfield is they have all these number one picks that they've accumulated number one picks

12:04 Jake: Two of them two number twos all these picks they trade out. They don't pick anyone of any value They pick two running backs in the second round who don't get on the field You gotta say they've sort of flubbed it. They flubbed their off-season. Well, we'll talk more about them flubbing it later. They flubbed it. And this seems where things really... This just brings attention to the fact that they haven't done a very good job. So in one game, this wide receiver, in one game, this wide receiver, you tell me if this is good stats for this one game. Zero catches for zero yards. No. Nine receptions, 136 yards, an average of 15.1. yards per carry or yards per catch but zero touchdowns good okay for one game what he considered the average good that's great it's a great nine catches 136 yards that's a lot offense what if I told you that was their season total to date that would be was he injured for the first seven games yeah so that's Ocho Cinco's thing for this year didn't him and Walker had similar like I think you know you pulled that stat like Walker If you looked at Walker's game against the Giants and Ocho's season, they're identical. Yeah, that's- Like, Walker does that in a game. That's a good game. Well, it's a great game. But it's an unbelievably crappy season. For a guy who's played in every game, it certainly is. Right, and he has played in every game. Anyway, let's move on. Any other- I mean, there's other- I'm trying to think of other NFL news. I mean, I could go look some up, but I don't think there is any- No. I refuse to talk about Penn State football. Yeah, exactly. Actually, I'm sorry you even brought it up. That is a failure on your part as a broadcaster. I spit on you because that is not something we bring up. Just looking to see if there's anything else. Union News. People hurt. Who cares? Let's move on. People hurt. Who cares? No, just... injuries and stuff. Alright, let's talk about... Going with the Jets injuries. So yeah, sure. What's up with the Jets? We have, basically it looks like we have DeVito coming back this week. That's good. We're gonna meet him. We'll talk about that in the game segment. But it looks like we have two that are, I mean Burris and his back, he'll play. I think this is gonna be Burris' back, Burris and his his sore back are gonna be on that thing every week. It's his way of not practicing Wednesday. Yeah, I mean he went through this with the Giants. He didn't need to practice. Practice? He never practiced. You know, the other one, Rodney Poole. Me. Me, they're saying that's iffy. And McKnight. Well, he played the whole rest of the game. Yeah. I'm sure he'll be all right. Dustin Keller seems to be that's fine. That was even though the worst decision ever. Not on the injury report. Sorry. And McKnight is also looking... Turf toe, right? Turf toe, which I love because I actually read up on it back when I kept hearing that turf. Is there anything to do with turf? It's like a broken thing in your foot. It's like a broken bone. It's not like turf toe.

15:01 Jake: I mean, it sounds like, oh you poor baby, you got the turf toe. But then it's like a broken bone. Why don't they call it broken foot? Well, because it's not. It's called turf toe. It doesn't matter. it's It's not good, but again, he's not our starting point. So if they have to go they'll probably bring Plax back to not plaques What are you trying to say? What position are you looking for? Crow is gonna return to the return. Is that so? Yeah, if McNighy is that why he started doing it He was okay. I'm not I don't think that that's the right decision. I rather you throw curly back there Okay, just let someone go let some young guy bring it back. I was right before I'll be right again Alright, so what about some Fantasy Kingdom? Didn't we review Fantasy Kingdom on the last show? Fuck it! I mean, I feel like we did that, didn't we? Right, who's your stutter dead this week? Oh, I picked a defense. Because I haven't done that yet. Okay. And last week, by the way... Scroll down to see mine, by the way, that I wrote. You picked a defense, too. Before I wrote mine? Really? Well, last week I beat you. I was laughing while you picked it, so I was like, yeah, yeah. Well, last week I beat you. Alright. Right? I picked Matt Forte of the Chicago Bears. Yeah, and he played on Monday night against the Eagles He didn't do that well. He got like 12 points. He did pretty good. Like 12 points or 16 points. He didn't do that well. I mean he had a good game. Yeah, but points wise wasn't that great? Well, he had two fumbles. Okay, so what was his point? Okay. So we're going by we're going by our Our league yet twelve and a half points. Alright, so I mean you had a hundred and thirty three yards really that good So don't tell me he does. Well, yeah, 133 yards. That's a good or not Depends how valuable you think touchdowns are but uh, I Get a hundred and three hundred and thirty three rushing yards. Awesome. You had a good game. All right. You had a great game All right, my guy had six points. Oh he was a kicker. That's great. So I had half the points you had. You destroyed me with your running back and my kicker. I doubled points. I doubled you. Half the points. So we're both picking defenses and yours is silly but I'm picking the Jacksonville defense. Good, I have them on my team this week. Curtis Painter and the uh... up against the Curtis Painter and the Colts who are not a band but a terrible football team. Terrible team. Which may not win the game this week. And Jacksonville defense is actually a surprisingly... They're good. Yeah, they're good. So I picked them up this week. I've been playing defense whack-a-mole and just basically picking up a... although it did bite me in the ass last week with the Raiders and they had negative 10. in our league. So I picked up the Jacksonville defense and I am going to play them because I don't have it. I just play random defenses that I can find. Although it might stick with them for a while. It was that. It was the Giants, the Dolphins or Jax were my top three. And I went with Jacksonville just because I thought I don't have any faith that the other team can score.

18:00 Jake: Anyway, I did the same thing and then in my sort of dud I picked the Jets defense good for you. Yeah there We'll talk about that later. Yeah, that's good. All right. We ready to do pickles. Let's do some Wait, hold on And we have our guest star so by popular demand Meaning aka somebody has asked for somebody asked for this one person one person asked for this Well, you get what you use this reactioner you get what you asked for so someone said because you're doing so absolutely so bad poorly just just Miserable and I actually not doing as poor as you but not doing great Someone said well, why don't you get Sarah who actually is running away at the league to? Give us her opinion because she clearly knows what she's doing and you guys don't clearly Now Sarah just happens to be my wife. I was again tied for last, last week. With seven, which is better than I have been doing. Yeah, I got the 12. I actually won the week last week. So... Running away with it. So Sarah's still in the lead, so I had her email in her pics. Oh. And I had her give us a sentence each. Oh, okay. Per pic. And I'm gonna read it in the Sarah voice. Oh, I don't think I like that. And this is gonna be fun. Can you not do it in the Sarah voice? Oh! All right, so for those of you who do the podcast we do the Jack Kingdom pick them every week where we pick every game Except for the AFC East games, that's we cover as part of the Throne picks later on we pick these games against the spread. Yep, and we're using the final spreads from Yahoo away we go so there's a game tonight there is it's a game tonight just in household invited to the Justin household the game that your night is a one is smaller than mine so 46 yes one inch my apartment's quite a bit smaller so when you're closer to the TV actually oh I sit like an inch away from the TV looks like a lot bigger 50 and yeah all right So this game is tonight, it's an AFC West matchup of tied for first place teams, I believe. I believe everyone in the West is 4-4, except for Denver. So we got San Diego hosting Oakland. Yep. San Diego is coming off the loss to Green Bay, Oakland coming off of a loss to Denver. San Diego is favored by seven points at home. I'm gonna pick Oakland just cuz I feel as if this is gonna be a really close game. That's the only reason. I'm pretty sure San Diego is gonna win. I just don't know if they're gonna win by seven. I agree so that's good for you. There's one of your wins. Alright what does Sarah say? And I'm gonna take Oakland as well. Sarah's... You're really gonna do her voice this time. Let's try. One more try. Justin: Too many changes in Oakland. Give them a couple more weeks. Also, PR has been in the slump.

21:02 Justin: He needs to come in out strong. Alright, that's horrible. This is terrible. Jake: Alright, she says too many... Stop it. She says too many changes in Oakland. Give them a couple more weeks. Also PR... Phil Rivers? Phil Rivers, okay. I'm surprised that she knows a quarterback. Has been in the slump. He needs to come out strong. So she picked against us. So she picked San Diego. That's correct. I'm about to change my pants. San Diego? No, I want to go against her because I got to catch her. Justin: You're like 20-something behind her. I'm not giving up. Jake: All right, moving to Sunday, one o'clock. By the way, have you noticed, A, there's no buys this week. Yes, so full schedule like that. I like it too next week. There'll be four more teams on a buy Yeah, but then after that we're back to full schedule. Yep. Have you noticed there's an abundance of one o'clock games this week Oh really? There's a whole lot of ones and three four o'clock Wow, there's like ten or eleven one o'clock games and then the rest are there's three four o'clock Wow, there are three prime times three four o'clock and the rest are at one That's actually good for us since we will be at the game. We'll be able to watch a nice chunk of games at one o'clock, right? All right, so a Division rival game here. It seems like there's a lot of in division games for some reason this week Maybe that was the schedule makers messing around with the whole you know, lockout, right? So Atlanta is hosting New Orleans. I'm in NFC South shootout. And this is a pick-em. It's flat, it's zero. And I like Atlanta at home. Really? Yeah, I don't feel like, I feel like New Orleans. and can't really stop anyone and I feel like there are times that you could stop New Orleans and I feel like Atlanta at home is going to be hungry to want to come out and beat New Orleans in that division game. I agree with everything you said except for I don't think Atlanta is going to win this game. I think no one's got too many weapons and they've got the better quarterback. Yeah. No dispute. Yeah. I think that they can just run away with this game. They're a dome team too. This is gonna feel like a huge away game for them. I'll take Norrlands and Sarah What are you gonna pick? I'm not gonna do it again She says Sarah says Saints are just a stronger team and have more weapons. She takes the Saints all right, um Moving right along we have a we have a battle here between a first place team and a second place team Hmm first place team in a third place team we decided who we wanted to win this I have decided who I want Well, we decided we wanted well, I don't know what you're deciding but we have Pittsburgh going to Cincinnati. Okay, and Cincinnati six and two and they are in first place in the entire AFC. That's right We would decide we want since I want the NC to win right keep going since II go since II go

24:01 Jake: Why why why root for them to not get into the play? Go go and since II knock Baltimore Pittsburgh out of the playoffs. That's what works for me So Pittsburgh's favored by three in Cincinnati disrespect that's a lot of disrespect for the The top team in the entire AFC is Cincinnati. I mean right now they are leading the entire conference again I don't think either of these teams have really beaten anybody. Cincinnati's won five games in a row. Pittsburgh just lost that heartbreaker against Baltimore, and they're going to be fired up. Give me Pittsburgh. Yeah, I'm going to take Pittsburgh as well. So, I... I don't think, I think Pittsburgh is one of the teams... Cincinnati hasn't really beaten anybody. Pittsburgh just came off a big loss. They're gonna come back, they're gonna destroy this team. I think this is going to be, especially with this rookie quarterback. This is a big game for Pittsburgh. Huge game for them. And it's a big measuring stick for Cincinnati, so this is a great game. We'll see what happens. Yeah, we will. I'll take Pittsburgh. Sarah says... She'll take Pittsburgh, she says, not feeling sincey. Okay, alrighty sometimes for reasons are very very explicit If she didn't say I like their color Moving right along we have Maybe one of the worst games of the weekend definitely, you know, there's a lot of bad games. Oh, no There's a lot of like bad teams still one show on a few but okay I was getting there. Bad teams playing each other and a lot of good teams playing each other. So we have Cleveland hosting St. Louis in what will likely be the lowest scoring game of the weekend. Cleveland is home and giving two and a half, which I don't really understand the line. It should be three I feel. So. I'm gonna take st. Louis and the points. Oh, I'll take Cleveland. I don't think I feel like I'm gonna change that. All right. Well you go change it and Sarah says I I think this is a week that st. Louis is going to make a stand and Cleveland isn't that great even in the pound She's taking She's taking the Rams Yeah, I'm gonna change mine to Cleveland. You know what, I think I did this the other day when the line was 2.5 and I said to myself, self, that line's gonna move to 3. So I'm just gonna take Cleveland and then the line didn't move. Next game, we have a division rivalry in the south. Two teams that are going nowhere. Jacksonville is going to Indianapolis and probably for the first time in the history of Jacksonville ever they're actually favored in Indianapolis probably might be probably probably the first time they played Indian they've

27:02 Jake: been favored in probably last five years well there's there's been some decent Jacksonville teams over the I'm thinking like the course of the history of time of Jacksonville. Yeah, well that's not right. Where they've been favored against Indy, but probably not in Indy. Jacksonville's favored by three, and I'm taking them. Their defense is too good for Indy to even score like more than 10 points. You know, it's an amazing thing when the 2 and 16 goes up against the 0 and 9. Reese Jones Drew is going to run right through them. Right through them, and the people are falling off the bus on the Colts. They know their fate is to lose. They lost Dallas Clark for the season. I just don't think that they're playing anymore. I think they're going through the motions of playing, like hu-hut, hike, but they're not playing. Their defense is just so bad, too. It's overlooked because their offense is completely inept without manning, but their defense is just so bad. the games but we hate these fuckers and when we get the chance to beat them we're gonna beat them in their house. Well they're hungry, they're young, you know, they have young guys that are up, like they're not a bad team who's fallen off, they're a bad team that's rebuilding. Like there's a difference. Dwight Lowry, two picks. I don't know. Whatever. Moving on. Oh, uh, Sarah says... Yeah, what'd she say? She says... Painter sucks and they're losing key players. She'll take Jax simple enough Sweep it. All right next game another division Game here. It looks like the AFC West's all matched up in divisions Kansas City is hosting Denver Kansas City coming off of a disappointing shellacking from the from the fins and Kansas City is favored by three points in arrowhead their third straight home game, I think and I Don't know they they this is this whole like This is this whole Kansas City is they're tough to judge because they really should have been I mean that was embarrassing they really should have beaten Miami and they got their asses handed to them at home like that at home yeah give me Denver yeah I can't do it gonna say give me Kansas City I think they're they're a flip-flopper team one week they're gonna play well the next week they're gonna play poorly they barely look they won against they barely won against the Chargers they get like, shellacked by the dolphins. Again, I don't think that Tim Tebow is gonna have a mistake for, I don't think he was sacked last game. Like, there's something like, he almost- They ran a different offense. They ran an option. They ran, they ran. They just ran the ball. Ran the ball. I just honestly don't think they're gonna be able to do that again. I think that's sort of a one-time wonder. I'm still not on the Tebow. the TiVo truck. So give me KC and Sarah says let's see uh she'll take KC because KC is fired

30:03 Jake: up after losing at home to the Finns which is her team. Great analysis. Which I watched. Her watching her team and it didn't seem like it was her team. No. She was rooting against them. She was but she was she's she was in the suck for luck. She was. I can't do that. Well, thankfully our team isn't sucking for luck. You win one game, you're still in the sweepstakes. It's not like you're completely out. Right, but if you really want to suck for luck, you don't want to win any games. Yeah, but... The Jets had those two straight years with the one overall pick, and they didn't go 0 for 16, either of those years. They won one in 15, but still they won a game. It felt good. I remember loving that game All right, so every other year. All right. All right. So moving right on we have a game that has no spread Why is this cuz Kevin called? Oh, this is a mayor may not play hmm in Philly So Philly is hosting Arizona Philly coming off of I think a season like a backbreaking season almost season ending lost on was it Sunday night yeah Sunday night against the Bears who look great they really needed to win that game I wasn't sacked once they played it looked great they ran they ran like you're supposed to against Philly that's how we're gonna beat them later in the season and a run over them I think this is off Because right if Kevin called plays Arizona is somewhat competent if it's John skeleton I mean the line could be 20 so well, this is easy. So let's move on well the lines off and we get it at off I've seen it at 11 and a half, but I'm picking Philly. Yeah, I'm taking it through it off I'm taking fully with 11 and a half. Well, I might too I mean especially if skeletons playing I mean that's like they're not gonna score 10 points They scored 13 points last week against the Rams. Yeah. I know. They won the game on a fucking punt return. Let's go. Sarah says, Vic will find a way to win. She'll take the Eagles. The line is, if Cobb plays, it's more than just Kevin Cobb playing. It's Kevin Cobb playing in Philly. So it's a little more. But anyway. it. Houston goes to Tampa. The line is Houston's favorite by three? I don't think Tampa's that bad to be a home dog like that. Give me Tampa. I actually think that that Tampa has been playing pretty poorly lately. I don't believe in Josh Freeman. I'll take Houston. I'll take the points. I'll take their defense. And is this the week that... The unnamed one is coming back? We don't think so. Andre Johnson? Yes. Sarah says, She'll take Houston because they are gaining momentum. She's running out of things to say. She's going to like cliches and such.

33:01 Jake: Alright, so... Just win baby. Just win baby. Carolina is hosting Tennessee in a match up. of light blue uniforms. I like Cam Newton and Carolina to win this game. Coming off a bye, well prepared. Tennessee's kind of falling apart a little bit. Carolina's at home. The standard three points. Give me Carolina. Yeah, I'm gonna do a little bit of picking from my heart here. I'm playing a guy with Cam Newton. I'm playing Chris Johnson this week on my team. I'm looking for a big bounce back. Give me Tennessee. Give me the points and I'll take Tennessee. Sarah will take Carolina. Says don't leave, don't love either team. So going with the home team to pull through. So that's a good strategy. Um, alrighty, moving along. We're in the four o'clock now. The first four o'clock game, Baltimore travels across the country to play in Seattle with the twelfth man. And Baltimore favored by six and a half? I think the same thing is going to happen. I don't think Baltimore gets up for teams like Seattle. They get up for Pittsburgh. They got up for the Jets. They get up for good teams, but I feel like they play to their competition and in Seattle not saying that Baltimore is going to win the game, but I'm saying that Seattle won't lose by six and a half. I don't think Seattle will score very many points in this. So if this could be a six to 17 point game and at that point I'll take Baltimore, I think they're going to score. They'll score more in D. then the offense then Seattle offensive score I don't care if they get up or not I'm interested to see how Flacco handles Seattle I don't know if he's gonna handle it very well he'll hand off the ball that's what he'll hand he'll hand the ball off and hand the ball off and hand the ball off all right all right what did Sarah say Oh Sarah said I have no faith in Seattle even at home all right don't forget the 12th man Chicago coming off a big win against Philly He's hosting Detroit coming off a bye. This is a really good game in division matchup very good game Chicago is home and favored by two and a half Give me Chicago two and a half Should be three. Yeah, I'll take Chicago and Sarah will take Chicago. She goes. This is a tough one It's it is anyone's game, but I like Chi town. Have they played already this year these two teams. I feel like they have yeah I don't they did they played in Detroit and Detroit won 2413 that was earlier in the year though. All right

36:01 Jake: last four o'clock game San Francisco hosts the New York Giants who have been Friends of the Jets they've beaten all of our AFC East rivals this year so far They've beaten Miami they've beaten Buffalo and they've beaten New England all squeakers And I can't wait squeaked by and all I can't wait till we beat them Yeah, three and one's a nice little thing for them against the AFCs. Yep San Francisco here is favored by three and a half I like San Francisco, New York. Well, you're picking them to go in this huge slide. So you might just stick with my, hey, they fulfilled the first part. They are six and two. I said they'd be six and two. So, so far it's in my favorite. It's so true. So San Francisco, I think is just too tough for New York with. some of the injuries that they have going on right now. Without Bradshaw it looks like, maybe without Nix, maybe without their center boss, who would be making a... Could be making Patriots. Yeah, but the Patriots defense is not the San Francisco defense. San Francisco defense, as I proved to both you and the other person... You didn't prove anything to me. I showed it to you, their defense is not as good as you think it is. Their defense is outstanding. We'll see. I'll take the Giants. Wait, time out. I'm calling a time out. No. How can you sit there and say that the San Francisco 49ers defense isn't any good? Their past defense is not as good as their overall defense. Yes, overall. Is what matters, right? Because what the Giants will do is go in and throw the ball. Hold on. You think you're 265 yards a game? They give up to if you're looking at the total defense. Yeah, the 49ers are number one They give up 14 points a game. Yeah, fuck what they do in the air fuck what they do on the ground You want to fuck up 14 points a game? Yeah, which is two points better than the next closest team the Ravens and so you don't think wait wait You have to step back from the 49ers aren't any good on defense because they are the best in the league. I said they're not as good as you're saying that they are. They're only the best in the league. Their passing defense is not the best in the league. Okay. But they're only the best in the league with the one thing that matters, points. Oh that's your, no that's your, that's your decision of what matter. I'm saying. You think yards are more important to look at than points? Is this something you want to put on the Yeah I do. What do you want to put on the board? The Giants will lose by three and a half. I will take the Giants. I won't have a very good game offensively. I will take the Giants and a good offensive game, two touchdowns. They will score more than the average. Here, put this on the board. I can't even fathom why you would even say this. It's a little absurd that you look at these numbers and see it that way. They give up an average of 265 yards. It's not that number, it's 255, so you're off. And the reason why they do that is because they give up only 70 on the ground. Okay. So people have to throw on them.

39:01 Jake: Plus they win! What are they? 7 and 1? So people are behind, so they have to throw on them, right? They're 7 and 1. I'm taking the Giants. Great, you take the Giants. You're, you're, you're absurd. That, that makes you sound a little stupid. No, when it happens... You can pick the Giants, that's fine. Yeah, I'm picking the Giants. But your hold, the Niners aren't good defenses, absurd. I don't think their past defense is as good as you're saying it is. I think that the Giants can move the ball effectively, passing. That doesn't make me sound as absurd. It makes it an opinion. And when it comes to it'll make me correct So when the Giants pass the ball over the field, but score 13 points and lose I will have been cracked That is correct. So if Eli throws for 350, but they score 13 points. That's correct Well, no, we're both correct. No, cuz I say the Giants gonna win. Oh, wait. Wait, what's the score? Is it 13 to 16? I'm not taking the score. No, I'm saying 13 to 16. Niners by more than three and a half Okay, Giant's my last, I'll take it. Okay. Uh, Cerro say Eli will go to his targets, cruise and ballad, and find a way to win. That just happens to be the two people on her fantasy team. She's a little bit picking with her heart, but that's okay. Even a Giant fan will get behind what I'm... We're done. Green Bay, we talked about them quite a bit earlier. Monday Night Game, Green Bay hosting Minnesota in a division matchup. Green Bay favored by 13 and a half. I will take them. Alright, I'm being the pack. You're going to take the pack? Yeah, I'm going to take the Vikings. I think 13-1 is just, you know when I get to that 13-1 point I just think that... You don't like it. I don't like it and I think the teams, again, they start to prevent defense. This is an indivision matchup, I think on Monday night and I think that they're going to stick it in there. They won't win, I don't think Minnesota is going to win, but I think 13-1 is way too much for a defense that again... If people want to, they can score on them. So I think that there's enough there in Minnesota. They've been on a buy. I think Peterson and Ponder really, they'll have a good enough game to keep it within 13. By the way, this is one of those games in the pool here that we have to pick the score. So what did you put in as your score? 2834. Oh, okay. I put 4110. . Okay. You'll be wrong about that one too. Alright let's move on to the throne. Sarah says I'm going with the points and AP again. Again another of her friends. Alright let's move on to the A.C. East. Alright let's go. So the first game is Dallas is hosting Buffalo. Are we in our officially in our throne folks? Justin: We are. Jake: I'm going to throw the spreads out there cause um. You like doing that? Yeah, why not? Dallas is home. They're favored by five and a half against the Bills. Oh, they are. They are. So, you know, we saw last week that Buffalo, you know, I think,

42:03 Jake: I think there's enough tape on Fitch, you got me saying Fitzgerald, Patrick, and the way that the Bills, I mean... I sat here last week and said this is what the Bills do. They throw short, they throw to Fred Jackson, they throw slants, they throw little passes. Stop that, you win, because they can't go deep. And that's what the Jets did. If I can say that, watching the TV, Rob Ryan's gotta see that and know how to stop it. I mean, I don't think we sacked him, but it didn't even matter. We got pressure on him. I don't know how many times you're gonna sack him because he's taking the three-step dropper, he's throwing a quick pass. Yeah. I mean, we just stacked the line, jammed the receivers, and we dropped into these little zones that confused him. I have to feel like Dallas can do the same thing. I like Dallas to win 26 20 Here's a little I want to do a play acting for you here Hello, hey Rex is your brother What what's up? Hey, what's going on? You know you want to win? You know you want me to win this game. We got a fucking snack. No, you get a snack How the fuck did you beat that punk? I did this, this, and this. All right, thanks buddy. Totally. You know they talk, because you know Rex wants to go to the movies. I made another phone call. Drink, drink. Hey, Rex, could I borrow Revas for the week? Go fuck yourself. Yeah. And that's the problem with Cowboys, is they don't have the Revas. And in that way, I think Buffalo will be able to score. I don't think they will be able to score as much. I think they're coming off a tough loss. They gotta go all the way down to a- I'm looking at the score you picked, and that looks like a lot. Looks like a lot of points. 20, I'm calling it Buffalo-Dallas 20 to 26 Dallas wins. You changed it? Oh, sorry, that was yours. Haha! That's mine! I can make anything work. Um, maybe I think Buffalo's gonna win. You think Buffalo's gonna win with a lot of points. Yeah, wow. I'm calling you out. Yeah, I was looking at your score and I'm like, what, it seems low. That's not what I picked. Yeah. My pick is... Do you think Buffalo... So what do you really think? Don't look at the... what you wrote down. No, that's what I really think. Which is apparently not what you think. So... You think Buffalo can score. I think, I think, I think, I think Buffalo can score. I think Buffalo can score. Okay. I don't think their run D is very good. I think they, I think Dallas is a great run D. I think they've been shown to be given up points. They play, they play these two games. Ones that they can get, um, they can get passed on, and ones that, it depends what defense shows up. Dallas is like a top 10 run defense. Okay. Top 10 numbers. What's their pass defense? Um... by yards per game total, I mean they give up 100 on the, they're in the middle of the pack. Alright. So I don't think that's... 10 to 15? Somewhere like that? Again, I'm not sure I believe in Buffalo, but I do think that they can score. Yeah, I guess I'm... I think the book is out. I think this is 3128 Buffalo, I guess. Alright. It's weird. Maybe I wrote that down in my sleep.

45:01 Jake: 10 minutes ago. Alright, moving right along. Wait, Sarah says... Oh yeah, what does she say on that one? Because she picked it. She picked it. And the spread is, again, Dallas favored by 5.5, so you picked the Bills there, I guess. Yes. She says Dallas will win, but I don't think by 5 points, Buffalo isn't going to lay down like Seattle. Go, Romo. Again, picking with her fantasy team, she's picking Buffalo. Okay, so the next game, the line on this baffles me. Miami is hosting Washington. Yes. And Miami comes off their first win of the year. They're winless, hopeless, and all of a sudden they're favored by more than three points against the team. I know Washington's terrible. Yeah, terrible. I get it. Isn't 3 the appropriate line for this game? Aren't they both terrible? Yeah, I think the line is 3.5. And for that reason, I'm picking Washington. Now, that's with the spread. I feel as if this is going to be a game where I think we differ very much in this one as well. This is going to be a game where not a whole lot of points are scored. Right. And... I have this sneaky suspicion. This game's gonna get a little out of hand. Miami's gonna win 11-10. And here's how they're gonna win. They're gonna score a touchdown in the fourth quarter. To make it 10-9. And just say fuck it and go for two. And then get it. Fuck this. get it and win. And get it win. Yeah, one of those ballsy type of things that like fuck this, we're not doing anything this year, we're going for two or either going to win or lose on this play and that's it. If it happens that's awesome. Actually I think that the Dolphins found a little bit more of who they are. They used Bush more effectively last week than they have before. Marshall had his best game of the year. I think Moore maybe has a little confidence. Like wait, I can go into someone else's house at a tough place to play. play pretty well. I think the fans are gonna be a little bit happy to have them home like hey look our team is horrible but look they won a game. I could see them turning us around. I think the Redskins are on a downward slide the wrong direction. Oh wait I see Miami on a little upward slide to their wind of their three or four wins this year. I could see them winning this game. I have Miami winning 27-20. And... What does the Finns fan say? The Finn fan actually of course picks against her Finns and she says, she's picking Washington, she says Miami can't win at home. Well you can't also overlook the John Beck returning home factor. Yeah. It is John Beck. Yeah, it's John Beck. Okay. Yeah, it's not gonna, it's just, I just don't believe in John Beck. I believe more Matt Moore if that's crazy. Well he hasn't won a game as a starter ever in his life. I just don't see it happening. Give me, give me Miami. All right. So should we do the game of the century? Game of the century. Game of the millennium. Millennium. And we mean it this week. This is as big a game as the Jets have played all season. True, true, true. I've been watching the Jets open mics on SNY,

48:00 Jake: the Rex Ryan pressers. Yeah. And he's calling us out. He's calling us out. Oh yes, he is calling out the fans. He is calling out the fans. So the name of this podcast, which will come out when you see it, comes from an interview they did with the name of podcast this week is called Flush the Turd. And that is because when Bart Scott was asked about this week coming out and he's and they said what are you thinking about the the doll the Patriots and getting ready for that game they're like we're gonna we want to play that game we want to win and then we're gonna flush that turd. I'm like, what a great coat. So, you know, if Bart Scott's getting fired up and we know what happens when Bart Scott gets fired up, I'm saying, whatever, let's keep going on and say it. Bart Scott had a good game last week. Yeah, so let's go to calling us out. You're right. There's been times, there are times when the fans need to show up and there are times when the fans need to show up. This is the week. We've been- Prime time at night. We need to be there and we need to be loud. I'm gonna get stupid drunk We need to be we need to be wasted and loud. I'm gonna be so fucking wasted We need to be no really cuz Rex Rex makes a good point The Jets fans had a week off had a week off We had a week. We had a bunch of weeks off. We had a buy we had a road game We haven't been there in a while. We were rested It's a night game. He feels as though when the fans get into the game, it brings something to the table that he wants. And feels like it actually has an impact on the game. It does. And it does. It certainly does. It makes it harder for them to snap. It says he wants us to cause some penalties, some timeouts, some miscommunication. particularly when the Jets defense is on the field, you know cause some confusion with Brady and I feel like the Jets fans should Get up for these types of things. We've gone to Road stadiums and I've looked at you and said Shit, this is a better crowd than we are. This sucks fuck like when we were in Baltimore that night I thought that was a great crowd of course we did sit in the uppers so what that's a different different crap but okay but I thought there was a great crowd they got up on first down because they knew if they made some noise they could rattle young suck Chas great and they did yeah they really did they did so I'm following along with Rax, I'm gonna be there, you're gonna be there. We're gonna be loud, we get up, we yell. Everyone should get up and yell. First down, get up there, yell. The guy behind me, fuck him. You making a promise? First down. We're there, Sunday night. First down. First down on defense, we get up and we start- We gotta get up, let's go D. Alright, so- Start yelling, let's go defense. I totally agree, this is gonna be a- this is a fan's game and it happened when he called us out. two years ago we showed up we should have won the game so let's let's get into it give me your keys the castle on this one the key of the castle is that I know the Jets have looked like the Jets the last couple weeks right and I know that the

51:01 Jake: and and and in these press conferences Rex said he saw it coming in that Patriots game right where we lost but he saw signs we've won three in a row since then But really, truthfully, the way to beat this team is to throw on them. You have to throw on the Patriots. They're soft in the secondary. We have talented wide receivers. Homes should be able to run circles around, whomever they put on them. Kordie or whatever they put on them. Plaques should be able to jump over whoever they throw on them. Keller should own the middle of that field. We should be able to really throw on this team. I want Sanchez to throw for 300 yards. I want him to throw for at least two touchdowns. This is how you beat this team. It's not ground and pound because they can stop the run. They can. They have big dudes in the middle. Sean Ellis we know is a very good defensive end to stop the run. Vince Wilfert, one of the best in the league in the middle. They can stop the run. They cannot stop you from throwing on them. And you know what? Once you start throwing all over them, then you can run over them. And then you can control the clock. So I feel like that to me is the key, is a good game from Sanchez, a good game plan on the offensive side of the ball to take advantage of one of the worst secondaries in the entire league. Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. I think the thing I'm gonna add to that and then I'll add a different key but the thing I'm gonna add to that is you gotta take your shots. I've seen in more games now, especially in Jets games, we're doing this, take a fucking shot. Throw the ball because you sort of get a 50-50 shot. Here's the 50-50. 50-50 is he catches it, it's a touchdown. The other one is they hold him and we get down there anyway. Fucking take shots take more of them and take them often We can act because I think instead of you take them you're gonna win a couple of them and we're gonna be touchdowns on defense Our We were down by enough that we could have gone back and scored a touchdown to win the game. I don't remember the actual score, but I remember thinking, okay, all we gotta do, they have a long period of time, we gotta stop them, and then we gotta stop them, and then we can come down and we can score with three minutes left to go in the game, whatever. So what we do? They walk down the field so slowly, so methodically, so whatever, just running. They just ran, they ran, they ran, and we couldn't stop it. I know it's crazy to say with the Patriots, but it's almost like you gotta stop them from running too. Because if they can get ahead and they want to just eat up the clock, I don't think Tom Brady has the weapons he had before. It's clear. He has his inside weapons. He has his West Walker. But the other guys, they're really not that good. They're not when they had the deep threats. They have no deep threats. That's the secret. great. So you really need to stop the intermediate stuff because that deep stuff's not gonna happen

54:03 Jake: So it's not like put put Reavis on the one great guy Reavis has to cover walk Yes to cover Walker and we have to not let them run. I mean the guy fucking Ben Jourber Oh, he's a jack killer. He's really good against the Jets. He runs over us. He scores touchdowns. He does not fumble He is a very efficient running back against the Jets. He beats us. He's good at that. That's that is it for me. It's it's I get it, it's Tom Brady, guys, top to pass, but in some ways, this is not that Tom Brady team. This is not. He doesn't have those weapons. He's not performing at the level, right? You can always say, we know the secrets of beating Tom Brady. Take away the intermediate stuff and hit him. Hit him first. Right, hit him first and take away the intermediate stuff and you basically hit him. Hit him hard. and basically take away the tight ends and welker right here i mean so i mean it's a tough it's not an easy task but i love the way the jets are playing i love the way they've been playing in the last couple years here's the thing though if they come out sorry if if they come out like we have been and they run on the first three plays i'm not gonna be happy You can start building. No, I won't boo the Jets and I never boo the Jets and you know I get upset when people around me do boo the Jets because I don't do that, that's stupid. But I will be angry and I do tell you that was stupid, I will say that. I was so fucking drunk out bro. I'll be really upset if they come out Sean Green up the middle. Sean Green up the middle. LT on a draw like that to me is not the way to beat this team I understand you want to keep Brady off the field and that's always a good thing, but you can do that look I mean, I said Sanchez with these benchmarks 300 yards two touchdowns I want 65% or greater completion percentage Just complete easy easy easy pitch and catch nice and easy No one could cover homes on the other side of that field and I want no one's covering Keller in the middle of that field They cannot do it I need Sanchez to take a Xanax before the fucking game Because this whole coming out and basically his first drive or the first half or the first quarter and just throws the up that pick that sometimes his return for touchdown and sometimes it's just it's off. I like I need him to come out and be like and that's probably why they come out and run the ball like that is because they're like like just go up there and whatever. I would love for them to say come out and run the fucking two minute drill. I know we haven't done it yet. We've done it like in the middle of the game. Just do it like the Colts do it sometimes like the Patriots do it. Come out and fucking run the two minute drill just to start the game. Get your blood pumping. Get some get some going. Maybe do it for you know to get halfway down the field and then stop. But I just I can't have this game where he's you know starts off because they while they don't have a great they will still hurt you that team will start you any defensive back grabs a grabs a pick you can still run it in let's not do that right the turnovers got to stop this that all that shit that we did against the Bills that we didn't lose You can't do that. We had very good turnover ratio because we turned it over from them I'm not sure we're gonna get you know a fumble from a fumble from the running back and two picks off their quarterback

57:04 Jake: We can't rely on that. So that's it for me. What's your pick? What are you picking? I'm picking the Jets to win 26 20 same score as the Dallas game. Oh, okay I am picking it 28 20 Same difference. Jets, I want to be in the fourth quarter. There's nothing they don't have enough time. I hate that Tom Brady can always come back in. Tom Brady, so hot right now. Even that, like 15 seconds that the Giants left him, I was like, oh, too much time. Oh, Jesus, too much time. Too much. No good for everyone clean. Too much time. All righty, well, until then, we will be hopefully back on a Monday, the Monday Victory Podcast. Yes. If we're not, you know what happened. Go Jets, show up fans, show up and be frickin' loud. Don't get too drunk so you're just like passing out. But get loud, be respectful, but get very, very loud. Can't wait to go there. Do all the other stuff we always ask you to do. Long podcast. Subscribe on iTunes, leave reviews, hit us up on Twitter, Jet Kingdom and Just Jet Kingdom. But until next week, and as always, and a big one this week. We'll see you next week. Let's go Jax!