One Two Many

September 28, 2017 · 29:01 · Recapping the Dolphins game, Knight and play of the game, all week 4 picks, Throne Picks and Keys to the Castle for beating the Jags.
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Opening
Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they hear the lamentation of their women.
Transcript
Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=0 @ 20.9s → Jake; other-primary cluster=1 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Jason-ref Jake cluster 0 sim=0.82.
00:20 Jake: Welcome to the Jet Kingdom podcast. Longest running New York just podcast ever. I'm Jake. Joining me 282 times in a row feels like 283, but it's not Justin Justin's in a good mood Of our podcast so here we are my first time as a producer. Yeah, we have some technical issues So it just sounds like poo-poo. That's why We got a lot to talk about and now we have less time to talk about it. We have a half hour The half hour. Jets versus Dolphins, we'll do Around the Kingdom, Jet Kingdom pick, I'm throwing picks, Keys to the Castle. Let's talk about the total domination of the Jets versus Dolphins first. Justin: We just dominated them, that's all. We killed, there was... Well, the storyline is the running. Jake: There was no way, no one would have predicted that JHIE would not be able to run on us. No one would have predicted that. Justin: Yeah, because we gave up like a couple hundred yards. the previous two games. Right, and they were always big plays though. It was really weird. Jake: They were big plays, if you go back, because they were saying it. Yeah, they were big plays, right. But I'm saying they were like, they were big like, if you look at the Raiders game, there was two like big scampers for 40 and 60 yards or whatever they were, that kind of inflated the number, otherwise it would have kept them under 100. So. Yeah, I guess. as Listen someone lit a fire up the Jets ass and said you guys gotta stop this these fucking runners And they it was a good time to do it because this team can run and they've got a good runner one of the best Justin: In the around for over a hundred in the first game. Yeah, I Jake: Don't know I do have to say because I said it on the podcast that we just lost that I told you we were Gonna win and I told you that Justin: You did have a feeling and the count is said I have a feeling we're gonna win this game Jake: Yeah, and the council to win more games and then we want him to sell He's still a loser though. He is my observation of the game Colorful toast. He just looks like toast I don't know if I was our defense being really good because I haven't seen him play and watch any of his other games He's only had one other game or if it's or if he's just toast. It's kind of like watching Eli's like, is Eli toast at this point? Is he just like... Eli's not great. Justin: But he's also in a bad system for him and it's weird because he's been in it for four years. Jake: I mean, they had a couple drops. There's a couple ones that I thought, ooh, we got away with that one. Do I give credit where credit's due? The defense played pretty well. Justin: Defense played very well and... The line... did what they had to do the secondary did what they had to do linebackers were playing well all the shit i've been given darren lee he had a much better game much better game so maybe it's
03:03 Justin: just hey he's this is a second year and he's gonna get better hopefully i just feel like he's Jake: small but whatever yeah Um, big observation from this game, I think is like, oh crap, oh crap. We can actually win games. Justin: I wouldn't overreact. We beat what is probably another bad team. Right. With a bad quarterback. And for all to talk about their defensive line, I don't think it was that great. I do have Sue up front and I wait. Sue and wake, but they didn't really get. all that much pressure on us and then they made them but then they only sacked him twice yeah and mccown had a really efficient game yeah i was telling you he had like a chad pennington game Jake: yeah early sanchez game it's like where he he has no more than 25 attempts yeah but he was like he would Justin: He completed 78% of his passes. That's great. That's like a, that is a Pennington game. It's like the open guy, throw it to him. The open guy, throw it to him. Jake: All right, but I think that's kind of what every quarterback does. They like want to open guide and throw it to him. Justin: Now, I liked Sanchez. I was not a hater. As everyone who listens, long time listeners know. But he never had games where he completed like 18 of 23. I think so. I think he went back and he was like, you'd find a couple. He was... Perennially around 55%. Jake: Yeah. Justin: Um, that's just where he was. Like he, that was his issue. Everyone said it. Like his issue was his accuracy. I don't know if it was necessarily his accuracy or like he was throwing into Jake: Nowheresville. Well, here, here's a couple of things that I think maybe myths that we might be able to bust on this podcast or that, you know, we busted on this week. Josh McCown has no talent around him. Justin: He might have some talent around him. Right? Curse is pretty good. Curly's dependable. Jake: Robbie Anderson can go deep. He can go deep. And he's fast. That play was actually one of it was almost when you re-watched the game. And I was like, that just doesn't look like a Jets play. I haven't seen that just straight down the field. Justin: San Antonio Homes is like the last. Jake: Person I can remember doing that kind of stuff going right and beating the guy and being ahead of him and catching the ball Justin: In stride and going even Hill did it against the Bills, but only against the building he ever did Jake: Yeah, it was a perfect game and in fact, we're not perfect game Two things bug me about this game one is they should never let them score at the end there There was no reason we were dominating the whole way. They started that prevent defense. They should have turned it up and I wish I wish we could have pulled back Rex for the last five minutes the game say Rex you play because he Would have just said no, I'm bringing the house every time. I don't care. I'd rather have a shutout than anything I love that about him. He's like he'd rather have a shutout but that and I just think You gotta you gotta more you gotta have more like I'm going to crush you as a team And when you're at whatever it was, fourth down, two and second in goal, and we're up 17-0,
06:06 Jake: our defense had just totally dominated. That kick and a field goal there just feels like, why? Why are you kicking a field goal there? That should have been any other team that goes, you know what? We're gonna punch it in and we're gonna show you that you've got no choice. You're done. Because even with three touchdowns, it was 20. 20 is doable 20 is three touchdowns. Yes, if you do if you miss It's it's two touchdowns in a field. I just but he would have been there's no way that team was going anywhere backed up in Justin: Their own end zone. That's why you kicked the field. Oh, yeah, I just I don't like it Jake: I don't like that conservative bullshit cuz I think that's not really conservative Justin: That's actually that is actually a the right football decision I understand going up three touchdowns is better than two touchdowns in a field ball I'd rather go on up, whatever, 24. I know, but if, again, playing the odds, you're going to make the field goal. That's like a 99.9% chance of, It's true. and you're going to go up three touchdowns. I get it. And this team can't score any touchdowns. So that's, I'd go for the juggler. Well, that is the juggler. You just won the game. Jake: The game was over 20 nothing it was over. I just don't like the conservative I watched it rewatched it. I'm watching do it again. I just don't like the conservative Justin: Thing because you don't really care if they win or lose Jake: It's the bills too like he's made the bad decision about when to go for when not this one was a good decision Justin: It wasn't it was not it was not an incorrect at home. You're fucking dominating Jake: I just feel like, oh, what, WWBD, no, WWB. Justin: You know what Bill Belichick would do? He'd be like, oh, I have Tom Brady. I can do whatever I want. I'm a score touchdown right here. I can do whatever I want. I'm a score touchdown. I don't have Josh McCown. He didn't, yeah, whatever. Oh, I have Gronk too. Jake: All right, pick your play of the game. Ha ha ha. Justin: There were a lot of flashy plays in this game. I'm picking the play that to me has me very optimistic about the future and it's not young Mr. Adams. I'll pick that play. It is Mr. Arderius Stewart. And that one catch that he had was a really good one. That was a really good catch. He got open, it wasn't a great throw, but it was a really great catch. It was one handed diving over the middle of the field. I think it was on third down even. That was a great play. And I was like... It got me really excited. I was like, whoa, who is that? Oh my god, that's the rookie. Wow, that was awesome That was an awesome play. I was I enjoyed mine is definitely the touchdown play to Jake: Robbie Anderson and here's why it's not the play. It's the thing that happened before Remember ball paddle had run off a good 50 yard run. Oh, yeah They pulled a bullshit penalty, a hold that wasn't.
09:01 Jake: They went and re-looked at it. They came back. Apparently, they talked about it afterwards. The accountant was like, yeah, the offensive line was rip shit. He was like, hey, settle down guys. Again, I'd love to be this our quarterback of the future, he'd be like, oh, that was a really good thing to do. He settled them down, he said, we're gonna get one. And then he goes out and throws a fucking touchdown strike. If this were my young rookie quarterback, I'd be so fucking excited. Justin: Your young rookie quarterback wouldn't have the but the experience to say those words. Jake: He's never going to get it sitting on the bench. But then here's McAllen, 38 year old, and I'm like, oh, great. Is he going to be around for two years? No, we're in this fucking terrible, terrible thing. Anyway, um, uh, my play of the game. Adams is just fucking unbelievable. That's your player. Player of my night of the game. Your night of the game. Is Adams, that play where he came across and just launched and knocked the ball out, one handed out of, you know, from the receiver catching it. I was like, that kind of stuff is the reason, one of the reasons we lost last year, because Pryor couldn't make that play. And now this kid can make that play. He comes flying across like fucking. bad hell and just goes, click. No, you're not getting this. I suppose a prior would have fallen down run his way over there. The guy would have caught it and run in for a touchdown and in front of Rivas. Justin: Yeah, my night is the same dude. You can't night the same dude. I can. I texted you, I think, in the second quarter and I think it said, like, welcome to the NFL, Jamal Adams, because holy shit, he just. flashed on like three straight plays. Jake: So I'm gonna, let's not call, let's not put him in Canton yet, but I mean the Leonard Williams, those two picks now are looking pretty good. They are. Those are, those are two solids. The Jamal Adams Leonard Williams, it's almost, it almost gives you a little bit of like Just take the best guy, whoever the fuck it is, no matter if you need it on. This was a need, but at the time we actually had a ton of safeties. They went and then cleaned house after picking him. and may they pick them both Justin: they said alright two new safeties goodbye Gilcrest goodbye prior by the way prior out of the leaf Jake: well he saw an IR somewhere isn't he well Cleveland caught him did someone pick him up yeah and then he put him on IR sure he's done alright let's move on Okay. Um, let's talk. What I do want to talk to, I like to do my other segment. Justin: What's your other segment? Jake: What's your segment? My segment is called... Injuries? No, it's called Around the... Injuries? Justin: We really have a lot of injuries this game. Mo woke. Brian... Oh, yeah. Brian Winters didn't play, but it didn't seem to matter. Jake: Didn't seem to matter. Out. a we don't have very good running game that are running is not a great this year now it's can be very bad as Matt Forte a , I don't think he's playing a ram crazy league Rams 49ers put up the most amount of points ever on a Thursday night. 41 39. the
12:00 Jake: pretty crazy crazy jaguars my jags Justin: I can't call my JAGS. I was a year early on the JAGS. They're bad. Brandon Marshall the curse continues. You'll never see the playoffs. Jake: , Uh, not good at all. Uh, Packers, uh, Aaron Rodgers wins his first ever overtime game. Justin: Can't- When they said that stat, I thought they said it backwards. I was like, are you sure you don't mean the other team? Jake: Yeah, Bengals are terrible. And finally, oh, everybody's taking a knee. I guess that's the only thing. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that? I have no interest in talking about that. I will say my only thing to talk about it is, I'm glad it's being talked about. I like that it's a conversation. Half the conversation, it's good for everybody. All right, let's do some pick them, baby. Read them down, rock them out. Justin: Okay, I'll actually read them this time. time. Are you really gonna bring up your... Oh boy. Alright. Uh, Thursday night. That's tonight. What?! We got a good one. We got a good one. I think we got the Black and Blue Division. We got Green Bay hosting Chicago giving seven I-I like Green Bay. Yeah, I don't think... Both coming off overtime games. Jake: It's a little tough for Green Bay. I can see them banged up. They're home now. Yeah, they're home, but still, that's tough. What? A Sunday nighter and then a Thursday nighter. Well, Chicago had an overtime game too. No, but it's just Sunday night. They play on Sunday night and then play on Thursday night. They didn't play Sunday night, Green Bay. Green Bay did play Sunday night, didn't they? No. on. Justin: Now you're right, they play the afternoon. Yeah, it's the same thing. Still terrible. a Thursday night is terrible. I'll take a read day. How about that? Just generally speaking Thursday night games are terrible. I like more football. I love football too. But Thursday in the spirit of hey, let's like not have these guys die or all have not to be this with you All right, keep going. Yeah. All right You can find them on the road favored by three, I'll take the home team with the points. No. Jake: They're both bad. Yeah, but I think since I... As soon as I have a better chance of getting better, Cleveland doesn't. So I'll take Cliff - and- I don't see why, but whatever. Justin: Dallas hosts the Los Angeles Rams.
15:03 Justin: Dallas giving seven and a half. That hook really makes me think, but I'll take Dallas. Jake: Too much. Not sure Dallas is like that powerful of a team anymore. Rams is a good offense. Defense and running game. I don't know why they won't stay close. Yeah, I'll take the Rams how girly looking good. All right Justin: Minnesota hosting Detroit. This is off. No lying. Not sure why I'm guessing it's Bradford Yeah, is Bradford all that different from anyone else who's gonna play really? Is it not Henny? Who is it? Winkle? Who is it? Who is their back? Oh, it's the dude who started for the Rams last year Oh fuck me. Is that his name? Fuck me? Yeah, it's fuck me. Okay. I'm taking Detroit's actually think Detroit's really good I'll take it's gonna be off. Whatever it is. I'll take miss out at home odds are I'm gonna get points. All right Pittsburgh is going to Baltimore always a tough really tough game. All the more just got there ass smoked Pittsburgh favored by two and a half and they just lost two. Jake: I like Pittsburgh because Baltimore got their ass smoked by Jacksonville. That's bad news. that I don't know. Who is the first two games their defense is like this? 44 drop? Justin: How many are they going to score on us if they score 44? I'm not going to score that many. All right, Houston, Tennessee. This is the last 1 o'clock game. Houston is home. It is a pick-em. I like Tennessee. All right You went, you went packs this week? . playing in this small arena this soccer stadium that's like 27 28 thousand They can't When they played was like So I feel like Yeah, okay, so I I took a fully All right, and then all these are 405s, so there's like one 425. So the Giants are at 405 at Tampa and Tampa is favored by three.
18:04 Justin: I'll take them. I cannot see the Giants going. Why they suck? I just can't see it. I know, but they're not good. So I can't score. I know, but I just can't see it. So I'm going to take the Giants. They need their defense to score. twice they need their defense to have a pick six or something all right and then Probably the best game of the week. I guess at 425 here. You have Denver hosting Oakland and Actually, that's a game like I can't wait to go back and watch that game both teams are coming off losses I like Oakland getting two and a half Jake: I like Denver loser this team's two inch to Justin: . . . . y . . You win if you pick Indy. Twenty ten. Twenty ten. And outburst for twenty three. Jake: Yeah. Justin: Their offense is for, I don't know why, but maybe because they traded a receipt for defensive line right before the season started. A good receiver by my account. Alright and then Kansas City. See? Jake: and , the ad and put my scores in here and it will yet the world's after the world's at Miami Although I don't I think my mind is gonna be pretty pissed. I think it'll be close I think it'll be a close game, but I think no uh You know they don't really play well on the road I still think they're I think they have more firepower and from what I saw if Josh McCown can sit back there and Fucking throw the ball around and have touchdowns. Why the fuck is two of reason not gonna do that like Their secondary can be picked on. You saw that. I mean, we picked the fuck out of Josh McCown picked on their secondary.
21:03 Jake: Yeah, he did. And so, yeah, I'm going to pick NOLA to win 27-24. Justin: I've got New Orleans also winning by a bit of a larger margin, 31-13. Nice. Similar reasons. You know, I just don't think Miami has an answer to... Stop New Orleans, and I just don't think that Miami has any real firepower I mean we just saw it like that was miserable Yeah, and we're not like that good and they have remember we're bad right like we are a bad D And we made them look terrible awful Jake: Yeah, that's how bad they really are. Also jets by the way when it's gonna be 90 degrees outside like don't wear the green. Go all white. Go whites. Yeah, go white. You control it right? Justin: And that's the craziest thing. It's not even like this was a December game where we get Miami in the cold. No they had a, I'll set a disadvantage. No. Jake: We're in like their weather. No, because we've been practicing in 80 degree. That's not a thing. Alright next. Buffalo at Atlanta. Um. I Justin: Atlanta's good. I think they would probably go back to the Super Bowl. They're really good. That bad loss did not seem to haunt them the way that most thought it might. And they're really good at home. They're tough in the dome. And I think that their favor by nine and a half I think they're gonna win by ten 27 17 Yeah, I just don't know what to think about Buffalo. I think they're gonna win a lot of games at home. And I think they're gonna lose games on the road. They're gonna go 8-8. They're gonna be like that team. They're good enough to win at home, but they're not good enough to win on the road. Jake: Yeah I don't see them lighten up Atlanta. Atlanta's got a good young D. Again they got mistakes, but I still think Atlanta's gonna win. and I think Atlanta takes it. 30 to 21. Justin: Matt Ryan's going to have a good game. All right. Caroline is at New England and New England's favorite by Tam Newton. Jake: For all intents and purposes. Just looks terrible. Is he hurt? What is his deal? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I know he came off surgery. He basically didn't. do very much in the pro season. I think you took one snap in a preseason game or something. Justin: He's definitely rusty or something because they don't look right. No, they don't look right. And New England can score. Yes. And they can score and you don't have a clue what they're going to do. They're going to it's like Tom Brady's 104 and he's thrown for 800 yards, all exaggerations. So he's good. Gronk's out there. They can run the ball. They got like five running backs. No kidding. And whoever's playing receiver's gonna catch balls no matter what. And Carolina hasn't been putting points on the board even though New England's defense isn't very good. And that's the only reason why I have this 3117. Otherwise I'd have it.
24:01 Justin: 31 like six Jake: a right right same way I again not being in one at home I think Carolina and ever years ago like four years ago Monday night they went in Carolina when it's a that was a different team right that's like that was like a defensive powerhouse yeah went in beat New England on Monday night I remember that yeah because we were out in San Francisco. the I'm ready for 13 Justin: and now we're we're about the same wavelength their islands get to the game of the game of the day I write and one o'clock start were either one o'clock or Thursday night and no four talks nothing Nothing. It's great. All right. Well, we have the if we're on the west coast Like that. No good game was the video clock. Right? Otherwise, we're basically a one o'clock team this year. Yeah, it's great. It's fine. I actually like one o'clock. All right, so we got Jacksonville coming into town. Jacksonville's got a real good defense. Who are you, Jacksonville Jaguars? They have a good defense. They're a really good defensive team. They run the ball. They got Leonard for Nat and they run it. They really, really. try to run their run first defense team. Jake: So who that's exactly who we just played. We played a run. Justin: I think this is a better version of what we just played. Jake: Both from the same state. So that's a thing. That's a thing. That is a thing. I just don't know who I don't. It's just weird because you can't really good defense. You can look at the jets and say which jets are you going to show up? Is it one that can shut down one of the best? You know, Russia's in the league. Okay. Well, then I have no problems with for net fine We'll shut him down But or are we the guy who just let them tear us up to the middle like terrorists are assholes up in the first two games Justin: I don't know. Which one is it? I don't know either. I'm betting on for net being able to run It's not betting on in fantasy. No, he's good and they give they feed him the ball no matter what and Their defense is really good They've got good defensive players on that team. Jake: Alright, so pick the- how are the keys to the castle to win the game? To win the game? Yes, that's what we do on this podcast. We- we decide- we talk about how we can win the game. Gotta stop Leonard for net. Justin: Okay, check. That's it, I mean you gotta do that. Because if you- make Blake Bortles beat you. Right. Go up 10-0 and make Blake Bortles beat you. That's the key to the game. Jake: I think it's on my account to have a flawless game again. Again, no picks. No, I mean, nothing. That's the type of stuff. That's why Miami could never get in the game is we held the ball. We walked down the field and we either missed a field goal in the beginning, but like... We didn't make any mistakes. It was pretty much a mistake-free game. A lot, lot of penalties though on the Jazz. A lot of penalties on the Dolphins. Oh my goodness. But we had more. Like there was a point where we had, they had back-to-backs and then we had back-to-backs and then they called double. I mean it was terrible penalties. Justin: Yeah, there were a lot of penalties. I feel like they. They had a lot more than we did. I don't think so. I think if you look at the.
27:00 Jake: I'm gonna look at it right now just because I'm really because they started off with Justin: with tons and then we made it up. They. They had like three in a row. They called the time out and then they had a delay game out of the time out which is really strange. That's so talented. It's really really strange. Find it. I'm looking for it right now. I don't actually the Yahoo thing doesn't even have it. How does this not have it? Oh, there it is. Penalties. Jake: 8 for 51, 10 for 94. 10 for 94. Justin: Could have been a big pass interference or something in there somewhere. We had pass interference. Jake: We had tons of holdings. Justin: Carpenter was holding everybody all the time. Multiple times in a row. I feel like that's our best guy. Jake: But I feel like we can stay in there. I just have this guy that like. What score? What do you got? I got Jets winning. 27-23. Justin: 27 is a tall order. I don't think so. I was losing 21-17. Jake: If we hadn't missed that field goal. Yeah. Right? That's 23. This is a better defense. Justin: This is a good, this is a really good defense. Well, we'll see. Jake: I feel like I've done this. 21-17. I feel like we can get a, you're picking us to lose again? Justin: Yes, I'm going to pick us to lose pretty much every game. Except maybe the Browns next week. All right, we'll see. All right, well, that's. Jake: That's it. That's it. That's us, Jake and- What do you want me to do? saying, we're back next week, win, lose, or draw. And as we always say here in the Jet Kingdom, the final kickoff, this final place. Goodbye studio. We'll see you in the new studio. Let's go Jets. 🎵
