By Week Blues

Opening

Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they get a lamentation of their women.

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Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-first-speech cluster=0 @ 9.2s → Jake; other-primary cluster=1 → Justin; Jason-ref Jake cluster 0 sim=0.23.

00:09 Jake: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Justin: How do you say, how do you say, how does it work? Jake: what does it work? and you feel it, it's only going to bring now Justin: This is the best week ever. There's nothing like winning before the bye because you get two weeks to just roll in the glory of a win. Jake: Oh it's so good. So good. Do you know that we've beaten Tom Brady and Drew Brees two out of the last three weeks? How good is that? It's so good that we lost to fucking Andy Dalton who threw three picks the next week and looked like a pile of poo. That'll happen to a road team on Thursday night. You know, it's funny that you brought that up because, well I just did. Mikey T, who's in our Jet Kingdom Fantasy Football League. I'm not gonna read the shit that you wrote about us Mikey T on Twitter with respect to But yes, so How big an advantage is it to be at home on Thursday night football? Particularly against the team who are normally marginally better and I would say it's an extreme advantage to be home on Thursday night football First of all Thursday night football's bullshit in the first place. You should not be playing four days after you've just played Secondly, think about that those practice days like usually you practice Wednesday Thursday Friday in a regular week So if you have a game Thursday, clearly you can't practice Thursday If you have to get there you have to travel Wednesday, so clearly you can't really practice on Wednesday So you have to practice Monday the day after you've played which sucks So, I'm going to do this. So, I'm going to do this. in a key game had to go to denver and play in denver at night and then we had to travel to denver to play them on thursday night and we were beating them but then in the fourth quarter we

03:02 Jake: He just got tired as hell. Tebow pulled a Tebow and just ran like 80 last drive because we were winded like that was it. That was the game So there's your there's your example of like a team even if you're marginally better one way or the other You know the advantage is clearly with with the home team you get an extra day of practice You don't have to travel anywhere extra day of resting up if you think about it from that perspective big advantage the games always suck to like like players just aren't ready like they're in the mode of like today's our practice day right shit we have to play Justin: yeah I don't I I love I love NFL football but the bdaynight game especially with Monday night and Sunday night it just feels like it's just around I don't feel like I get enough time to like not have football on. Jake: They're all crappy games too, it's crap. They would never put a good game on Thursday night because they know it's crap football. Justin: Well, they have because they just thought it was going to be crap and it turned out to be a good matchup. And there will be those weeks where it's like, oh, last year they thought that it was going to be a shit matchup, but this year, oh, that team's good. And they're actually meeting up against someone who's good. So it'll happen. Week two was actually a good matchup. Jets, Patriots. Everybody thought the Jets would be terrible, but it actually was a good matchup. Jake: I guess, I mean, sure. And it was a close game. Sure. Close bad game. Well, it's not bad. Justin: 13-10 is a bad game. No, that's saying the scoring is good. It was good defensive game. Jake: No, it was bad offensive game. Let's put it. Justin: Let's just draw that out there. No, you blow. Come on. Alright, let's talk about the highlights of the jet win over. So in our little notes, we have notes for every week and we have this line that says, Gino was awesome or Gino was not awesome. We just keep crossing off because basically he has been up and down all season. So this time it's crossed off not and awesome and it was Gino was average. Which I think is actually the first game I think besides... I think this is the first game that he was just completely average. Like no real highs and no... No... No... No... No... No... No... Jake: No... Exactly. Justin: But he didn't throw a lot. Like he had, it was 16 for 19. Like he was not asked to do a lot in the game. Whereas Reuberees I think had what? 50 something? 51 attempts. 51 attempts? So, you know, this was the first game that I saw them just sort of say, you know, we are literally going to ask you to do the least amount of things you could possibly do. This was a... Jake: Don't let us lose the game. Don't you think it was the first game they said don't let us lose? Yeah, this was a this was a 2009 Jets game

06:01 Jake: I mean eight from talks about it last week on the on the on this very podcast where we said maybe they need to do the 2009 drill Where you know? The kid doesn't isn't asked to do a whole lot and they run the ball and they play good defense And get good special teams play and they win the game. It's kind of what happened I mean, that's how he almost beat New Orleans in 2009, right? Except Sanchez threw three picks in that game. I remember it. Yeah one was a pick six. So We knew how to stop these guys. We knew we could play with them on defense. We could play with anybody. We, we've really, you know, one team has beaten us on our defense. Right. I mean, Tennessee did not, they scored a lot, but it was on, it was on Gino. It was on the offense. Cincinnati scored on us. That was it. Justin: And just left and right. So, I mean, tail of the tape, uh, Jets win, uh, clearly, uh, you're there 26 20. Although I think it was much closer like it was one of those games that the the actual end score doesn't feel as close as it was Yeah, it was more of it was more like 26 25 and a half like they were close Jake: We didn't take the lead until the very very end. We did the perfect Like end of the half thing when you know, you're getting the ball in the second half where we scored a touchdown with a little over two minutes left to bring it to 14-13 or down one at that point and then got a turnover and went down and scored again. So we scored two touchdowns in the last three minutes of the first half and then got the ball in to start the second half. Right. And basically between like those last three minutes and then the first five minutes of the third quarter we went from being down six to being up. 9 so down a score to being up two scores, which is just That was the whole thing was like keep them at arm's length, right? Keep ourselves up two scores So there were some like very key plays in there to like force turnovers some sacks An unsung Big play by Gino that we'll talk about I think I'm gonna make it my play of the game and You know, just we kept them two scores away until the final till the final drive where they got the ball at like the 10 yard line and The defensive line basically took over in the second half. Yeah Drew Brees two field goals in the second half. How awesome is that? It's true But they had I mean and in a yard if you look at other measurements, I mean they had they had a Justin: 407 total yards they had a lot passing yards they passed for Jake: 382 yards He had a good fantasy game. 66 total plays. Justin: Not a really good regular game though. No. They couldn't run the ball. Jake: Where did all those yards come from though? Who caught all those yards? Justin: I don't know. I just felt like they, well, Jimmy Graham had 9 reception for 116, two touchdowns.

09:01 Justin: He had that one play where he just literally dragged the guy into the end zone. It was terrible, terrible. Can't wait to see that. Well, Jimmy Graham is really good. He is really good. He's hurt. I mean, he's not the jim. Jake: There's a play where Crow fell. Justin: Yep, and they just were wide open. I mean, I think this is a game about those turnovers like those two turnovers will won this game Jake: Yeah, we finally won a turnover and they weren't traditional turnovers Justin: They were like bouncy bouncy turnovers like bounce off one guy into another guy's hands turnovers both picks and there were fumbles Jake: We forced fumbles. We could have had more. Yep You know, we forced a fumble, a strip sack on Breeze. I think it was Pace who got in there. So that was good. Justin: So let's just point out that you were dead wrong with your prediction. I'm happy to have been wrong. I mean, I think really the story, this is those turnovers and let's, I'm gonna make him my, I'll start. Jake: But wait, there's one other thing about this game, the Gino. game. Okay, let's talk about it. So I had no idea that we kind of saw it happening in front of our eyes. It's just sort of miraculous that this happened. So he went eight of 19 42% completion percentage not very good. So when he was in college, the whole thing was like, Whoa, he had like a 75 or some crazy. Completion percentage right like all his passes were like for one yard down the field Right we're all screenplays and sideline screens and he also know dump off things to tape on Austin Justin: Yeah, they also had no he had very few interceptions Jake: He had a high percentage and very few and I threw like 40 touchdowns and six interceptions Yes something a senior year or his last year in college. So he went eight of 19 Those eight completions went Between the eight completions, the ball traveled a total of seven yards down the field before it was caught. And then, you know, Greg Salas of all people, you know, took a screen and took it like 40 or 44 yards. Got one down the sideline. The longest ball that was actually caught in the air was thrown by Josh Cribbs. So like there was some very this was a very conservative play calling. And I think part of that has to do with the fact the running game got going. Chris, I like we saw something there. He clearly wanted to play against Saints. He didn't say a word about it, but he wanted that game. He ran. He ran like a man possessed. Like all of his yards came. I can't find his like yards after first contact on this game. But I know he of his 139. I would guarantee you 100 of them were after first contact. Like I know some of those long runs that he busted. He was, he could have been tackled, but he wasn't. Justin: Well, those of you who weren't at the game, I don't know if they show this on the broadcast, but so when they do the announcements to the players, they, it's

12:00 Justin: strategic or how they do it. They either did the offense, they did the defense last year when Sanchez was struggling, they like, they would just do the quarterback. They would know they would give to the quarterbacks. They did the whole team together once the offense. So when he came off that big win against, um, I forgot when Gino had made a big win after Atlanta where her home He they like pumped Gino Smith up like they he was the last guy to come out This is not only it was and your quarterback Gee no, like it was and everybody like everybody got crazy. It was cool. So This time Gino came out first. He came out first. It was it's military appreciation week. So everybody has the flags whatever Okay, but then at the end they then pumped up the music, whatever, and they brought out Chris Ivory as the last guy out of the tunnel. I like the mind game of it. Like, I think it's fun to do that. Like the mind games of who they bring out and also who they pick as their, you know, as their captains and stuff. Like, I think it's kind of, it's the untold mind game. And from that moment out of that, he never stopped rushing. Like he literally was just, again, he's not like... Thank you. I don't know, he just doesn't look special, but he looks tough and he's not really tough. Yeah, he could stay healthy Jake: This is the time of year where running back that place his style starts to heat up. I'd like to see them also like Justin: Ropodope and and bringing bow for like a little or making another game. I'll played more snaps Jake: Yeah ivory. He just didn't he's better when they're If they're throwing the ball, you'd rather have him in the game. Right. He'll catch it. Right. I don't think Ivory can even catch. Justin: He can't catch. He can run hard though. Run hard. Jake: Um... Powell played more snaps. He just didn't get as many rushing attempts, but Ivory was hot. He was hot. They fed him. Yeah? He had two really long runs. Justin: Um, you'll be happy they brought out the Wildcat. Jake: back that's right and they won the game so my theory continues except for the one but yes well they only ran it the one time in that game see what i keep saying is they have to run it so that then they can run wrinkles off of it which is what they did they've josh cribs run it he ran up the middle a few times and then he has a he has a run throw option off of it that worked. Justin: So I want to read the top receivers for the New York Jets. No, no, no. And I want you to stop me when I get to a person who we actually had at the beginning of training camp. Greg Salas, Zach Suttfeld, David Nelson. Tommy Bohannon. Stop. Okay. Oh, Tommy Bohannon. You're the winner for the first guy we actually had in training camp. Crazy sauce. Oh and if it kept going, Josh Cribbs, Jeremy Kirtley, it's two of the six players. That's it. Two of six we had in training camp. Jake: That's right. Now that is either... You don't even have to do training camp. You could say like as of three weeks ago. Uh, Nelson's been around for four weeks. Three, four, the most.

15:00 Jake: That's true, that's all. Crabs, three, four, the most. Sudfeld, two, Salas, two. That's true. So, you guys are all new. You guys are all new. First week. But you know, Sudfeld's gonna go back to the bench, cause, you know, we have a bye week. Cumberland will be back from his concussion usually. It's not a three week affair. And what's his face, Winslow's back. Winslow will be back. Yep. coming off of his suspension. So Sudfeld will probably just go back to the bench. Holmes will probably be back, but I think Nelson will continue to play a role in the offense because Jeremy Curly got her dislocated elbow. Justin: Disappointed that like I know this wasn't a passing game and obviously only eight completions, but is that like the second week in a row that Hill has just been... Jake: No, this is like the fourth week in a row that Hill has been absolutely nothing. Just held out. I don't think he's done anything. Justin: in the last almost really did last year he started off really strong he was this big remember the last year he started off the bills game and he had three touchdowns and Jake: he didn't touch the ball the rest of the years like he didn't catch the ball in this game since an adi game was a wash but he had four catches for 23 yards the new england game he had one catch for 17 yards the pittsburgh game he had three catches for 46 those are the last four games. But he's on the field. He's just on the field. Justin: Or is he taking the coverage? I don't know. Jake: I wouldn't really run double coverage over to stop Stephen Hill. Oh, I mean, I don't think you need to double cover anyone that's on the Jets. I kept yelling at you every time they get down on the goal line. They were not playing. They were playing eight in the box. The whole game were running on them. So just it was one of those things. We just had their number to run on them because these guys were single covered. They had no respect for it. Anybody know is on the field. Nope didn't really matter Justin: Alright, well, let's pick our play a night and play the game you go first night of the game Jake: Think I picked him like a few times right this year. It's gotta be the folk hero. It was windy boy yeah, it was cold and it was windy and This dude just kicks field goals And they were big when you're when you're you know when you win by six you've won by two field goals And their kicker missed one in the wind and our guy didn't our guy kicked four field goals did not miss he had a long Of what fifty two in that wind yep Our sorry forty seven was his long in this one, but I mean that is not an easy task And the play of the game, which actually set up a field goal in the fourth quarter, was it was like a third and 10 from like our, I'm going to say our, or from the New Orleans 35, something like that. So you're at like a 52 yard field goal, which is rough in that wind. and Gino drops back and he's being pressured and old Gino, Gino from the beginning of the season,

18:02 Jake: old Gino, old Gino would have floated backwards and maybe taken a sack of 10 yards, right, and got us completely out of field goal position or tried to roll out and run or throw the ball. into some crazy spot. Instead he steps up in the pocket, scrambles for five yards, doesn't get the 10 to get the first down, but creates a 45 yard field goal in that way. And instead of a 50 yard field goal, or even worse, a 55 yard field goal, if we get sacked, you know, gains positive yardage. Yep. And puts us in a position to go up 26-17, which is two scores, which is exactly where you I wanna be up to 9 against... Drew Brees, I mean you really want to be up like 20, but right if you have the choice between being up six and nine That was a big big big big play to just it'll go unnoticed a five-yard run But it made a huge difference because it was it was windy those field goals were hanging up there You noticed there were a lot of kick returns. Yes. Nobody was kicking it through the end zone, right? The wind was swirling So that's my player and my play. Justin: I think it's a little early to give this guy play the Night of the Game, but I'm going to do it because I thought he had a comeback game. 9th pick in the 2013 draft. D milliner is all game. I guess someone from the defense should get I mean there was too many to mention I mean everybody was all over but I thought he had a solid game. He was covering. Jimmy Graham Jake: He was a lot of us. Yeah, he was had him out there. They were not They were not shying away Rex is just gonna throw that guy under the butt Justin: I mean throw him not to the but throw him under the fire and he's either gonna survive or die and I thought this We're motherfucker. I thought this game. I thought he did pretty good job and he was involved in, I don't, he didn't have the reception, but he was involved in Jake: one of those pop-up receptions. Yeah, he was involved in one that could have been, but it like, he tipped it and then the receiver caught it. Oh right. It was like a fucked up play. Justin: Um, I thought he had one play, one pass deflection that I, I know no one wants me to do this, but I'm doing it anyway. Don't do it. I'm doing it. You're so stupid. Really? Jake: I won't do why is your night of the game not John Idzik by the way Why why cuz he's the guy who put the team together he did he was team together here. He was your Justin: Whatever the fuck we call it when we I think I already pointed out. I already he was my fool last week because because of this because because the four guys who are top four receivers three top three receivers Jake: were players he didn't pick. What do you mean he picked them? Get them off the scrap heap! That's called picking them. No, that's scrap peeping. Justin: Oh, please. Well, you have choices. You can pick up anybody. Here's the thing. Jake: We get to the playoffs. Wait, so John Idzick gets shit on when we lose.

21:00 Jake: That's correct. He's the fool, but when we win, he gets no credit. That's correct. That just makes no sense. No, he can get some credit. Makes no sense. No. Justin: But do you feel like this is the team that he has the... that his hands are all over this team yet, and that the winning of this team is based on his putting the team together? Do you really feel that? Jake: Ask your question. Answer the question. Justin: I don't know. I mean, well, you're an expert. I'm asking the expert. Now you're going to piss me off. So I'm asking the expert about what you feel about the GM and putting together this five and four team who's second in the AFC East and has a possible making a playoff run. What's the question? Jake: Well, do you think he's done a good job to date? Yeah, I think the organization has done a very good job. Oh, John Eddzick. With the five and four record? Absolutely. Alright. He's winning now and he's setting it up to win in the future. So what's wrong with that? I mean, I just... When I hear you last week, when it comes to full time, and you're like, this guy made the shit burger. Yeah. He made the shit burger too. So does he get the full for this week? No, but if we lost would it be him? No, not this week not this week because this week's different from last week with this shit burger before it Well cuz last week shit burger wasn't as good as this last week Justin: Shit burger pointed out some real weaknesses that I felt like but where they had a hand weaknesses that were on the team this week Jake: Or did he do something from week to week to fix that weakness? What did he do between last week and this week to fix those weaknesses? Rex did it. Yeah, cause Rex- So shouldn't Rex be your knight then? Cause he turned a shit burger into a cheeseburger. Well, that wasn't really a cheeseburger. It's more like half shit burger. Justin: He's- Well, he beat the saints who were six and one. He's made from the same shit burger ingredients. He's made a nice cheeseburger. Jake: You want to keep going with your logic? It's just it's not logical. It's I never said it's logical. You're awful You're an awful human being I'm awful human, but I'm not an expert Justin: You're not an expert. I'm not an expert. There's no shit about shit Jake: I'm a fucking fan. That's the way I feel. You're a podcaster. I'm a broadcaster. Yeah, and you're an expert All right. Well, so that's your night. What's your play? Um Justin: fun fucker my play of the game ass butt I don't know. I don't know what the game is. You were there. What was your play? The one we watched every play. That's true. I don't know. I can't remember one. Not one. Oh my god. Oh, the Geno Smith touchdown. There you go. Jake: His run. Justin: Yeah, I liked it. All right. I liked it. He I like that juke. Hold that one out of your ass. Jake: But thanks, Mikey. I like that ass. But as you said, you're an ass. Justin: Alright, well that does it for that. We can talk about some news. There's some news going on. Jake: There is news. There's injuries. So we already kind of mentioned like Cumberland. Didn't play, but we think he'll come back.

24:02 Jake: Home's still out. We think he'll be back after the buy. He should be. He should be. He's not. I mean that's a hamstring. Come on. Let's go. Let's go guy. Um, Curly be out for a couple weeks. Justin: Like, dislocated elbow or extended elbow. I saw the play again again. Jake: Two to four weeks, they're saying. Justin: Okay. So we get back Winslow. Jake: And we get Winslow back. We're going to get Cumberland back. Justin: And the dolphins drop Spagola or Spadula. What the... Spadola? Spadola. Jake: They like cut them from their practice? Yeah, they cut them. What's the point of that? I don't know. I think we should pick them up. I think you're right. Ryan Spadola for... Greg Salas. Although Greg Salas was like a professional football player. Yeah, you know he went out there and he's a professional football player You know, Spadola never played he played in like one game two games Salas has been in a league for a couple years But I think it's this is a good time to have a bye week. I like this. Yeah, it's time to get healthy time to get healthy we have to lose to our by like rex said i said that too i said two weeks ago i said perfectly and then who do we get coming out buffalo right buffalo perfect i love playing, buffalo in buffalo Justin: well this is a weird thing so as a jest fan who goes every game i was looking at my schedule i was like boy i feel like you've gotten a lot of games off i got a month off yeah yeah i like going to buffalo Jake: Oh It'll probably be EJ manual. Yep. Fine. Whatever. Justin: We beat them once. Jake: Yeah. I mean, I guess I'd rather face Jeff Tool. Justin: I'd totally rather face Jeff Tool. Jake: I mean, they're tough. They're tough at home, the Bills. So we'll talk about it when we get into our picks. You want to just leave it alone because it's such douchebaggery. We can just leave it I don't know. I mean I like I don't want to be like the talking head douchebag who doesn't really know everything and Wax poetic. Well, what's set up? I've never been in an NFL locker room I don't know shit about what goes on in there except for hard knocks and the two show. Yeah After a game where they win where Rex is given the raw raw speed Justin: why don't we just talk about it like we would as Jets fans, which is I'm very excited that two players who were starting players on the offensive line of the of The of the Miami Dolphins are no longer on the line. That works. There you go incognito. I hate that guy. Fuck you I'm glad you're not playing. Yeah Jake: And I don't care why. Me neither. Is he a douchebag? Sounds like it. He's that guy who's on the other team that you hate, and the only the people whose team he's on like him. Right. Like he's not like a likable guy. No. Like everyone hates him. Except if you're a fan of his. Right. The team that he plays. Justin: We used to have a guy like that. Jake: But you don't like Bart Scott if you're not Jeff. No can't wait. You don't like Bart. It's got it all Justin: Thank God. He retired like love boards now on you know what I mean? Yeah, San Antonio Holmes is that kind of guy? You don't like no no just the douchebag. He's a douchebag. You know and does that first down things yeah, but like mangled

27:07 Justin: These two these two guys again, here's here's the stats I don't know the stats, but I'm gonna say what the stats are. I'm not an expert, I'm a fan. The Tana Hill has been sacked an outrageous amount of times. He's on record to be the second most sacked quarterback ever in the history of football, up there with David Carr. Jake: Wow. Justin: And he just lost two people off his line that was already a Civ. Yeah, and he's coming up against the Jets who have an incredible front four Yeah, we've been sacked people and we've been actually sacking. Drew Brees is hard to sack. He was he was in We were all over. Guess who's not Tannehill Jake: So Drew Brees is like really hard to sack that little fucker. He is all over the place. He moves. He's very athletic Justin: He is very athletic We got him. Couple times. Couple times we got him. And we hit him a few others. Yeah. That, a Jake: Well, we'll go watch that later to watch the game. I think on TV, huh? We're gonna go and watch it Justin: We watch the whole game. We're gonna watch the condensed condensed. Yeah, I think it's for much the whole game No, it's good. It's only an hour and whatever. That's crazy. All right So what are the other things? Uh... We'll do the mid-season grades because we'll have nothing to talk about. Nothing to really talk about. No Jets game to talk about. Jake: Yeah, we'll talk about football. Justin: Right. Whatever. So let's get to our Jet Kingdom pick-em for week 9. Should be easy because there's two AFC East teams off. Right. So should be easy to avoid the other two. Jake: It should be. Alright, so let's start with the shitty Thursday night game. Shitty Thursday. So not only is this a shitty game, it's also on Thursday night so it'll be really shitty. See? Washington on the road in Minnesota, Washington favored by two and a half on the road. No way. And I don't care what the records are. I'm not, I know Washington's a losing team, so I'm not given, not given points with them on the road on a Thursday night. Give me the home team, Minnesota and Adrian Peterson to go for like 200 yards. Justin: Couldn't agree more. I mean I just don't think that watch dog on Thursday night. Yeah, these are evenly matched teams Jake: I don't care what they're both crappy teams Justin: But one of them has one of the best runners in the frickin world and the other one has not that guy Oh, they have a good you see that play you saw the play though Like the Adrian Pearson like got caught at the light of the yard play and he just Three guys pulled him into the end zone. No unbelievable. We gotta go watch. He's great. He's unbelievable. All right, let's go to Sunday

30:07 Justin: By the way programming note, yeah, I will not be in New York on Sunday. Nobody cares I'll be down in Tampa Bay. I'm going to the Monday night Tampa Bay game good for you I'll talk about that when you talk more to pick it good for you Jake: All right, so Seattle goes on the road crosses the whole country. This is a long road trip for them all the way from the north, northwest to the south, southeast to Atlanta and is giving six and a half. And that's not right. Atlanta is still a tough home team. Seattle is still not a great road team and they're traveling a long ways to play at one o'clock. So give me that, that six and a half and the home dog. A. Justin: They're winning, but they're not dominating whereas others are winning. Justin Koffs. Then we have Detroit. Jake: Detroit in Chicago. So still not sure if Cutler's playing. I think he is. He said he was. He said he's gonna. Justin: But old Josh McJoshma... Jake: Josh McCown? He looked alright. He didn't look terrible. without riding around. Yeah, that's like, yeah. So Chicago's at home getting two and a half, and again, I'm going to take Underdog. This is ridiculous. Justin: Yeah, I don't know what it is about Detroit, other than what is it about Detroit going to Chicago that they think that they're such a powerhouse? Maybe they're putting out their buy. Either of these teams can play defense. No. That's a high-scoring game. Jake: If Cutler plays. Please. I'm going to make my pick under the assumption that Cutler is playing. Me too. Justin: Alright, don't care. Pick in Chicago. Jake: Green Bay minus Aaron Rodgers. For the first time due to injury since he started starting. Like he missed that one game a couple years ago because they didn't want to play him in the last game of the season Matt Flynn played by the way is a free agent and How many reps could he possibly get in practice? Justin: When Rogers was there, he probably got next to zero. Maybe one. So, he wasn't with there in pre. Jake: He wasn't there in. He wasn't there in pre.

33:10 Jake: Can't pick them. I gotta take Philly on the road Going this terrible. I mean they just went on the road to Oakland and dominated Oakland But what's the difference now between Green Bay and Oakland? Really? No, that Rogers. What's the difference? Right? So I gotta take Philly. I Justin: Too I'm taking for a god a lot of agreement. Yeah, I don't like this Jake: Tennessee Is hosting Jacksonville Oh rejuvenated Jags off their by Tennessee's giving 12 I Don't care. Give me Tennessee. No roll, Tennessee Justin: Tennessee, you know has surprisingly good defense this year Jacksonville surprisingly terrible not surprisingly at all But I still don't like the 12. This is this is a you know rivalry matchup. I think that they're you know I feel like they're gonna play tough. I think they're gonna do something different off the buy. They won't suck as hard. They're gonna lose by less than 12. I'll take Jacksonville. Jake: All right. Indy is hosting St. Louis. And St. Louis is one of those teams. I don't. Yeah. And I think he's really like pretty good team. So and he's giving nine and a half and I like him. I like you need home. And the two and six Giants are giving seven and a half points I don't even know where to go here because I feel like the Giants off their by could be I still believe in them for some odd reason like they're still the same team that Pretty much the same team that has won Super Bowls like they haven't lost so many guys that offense is pretty much the same They're getting guys back in the running game. Okay, Andre Brown. Ugh. I'm picking Oakland, but I'm not sure about it. Justin: No. Definitely picking the Giants. Here's why. I just watched what Nick Foles did to Oakland. Yeah. Why? Nick Foles versus Eli Manning and Eli Manning's weapons. Why, if I'm Eli, I sit and I watch that tape and I do exactly the exact same play. Jake: Well, they're probably different offenses, you know. Justin: It doesn't matter. Nick Foles is not as good as Eli Manning and Nick Foles is weapons. Vincent Jackson, not Jackson, what's his face? Jake: You have the last name, just stick with it. Justin: Jackson and Riley Cooper and whoever the hell else. Jake: Well, Sean McCoy's better than anyone the Giants have. Justin: That's true. But he was throwing touchdowns left and right.

36:00 Justin: Sure was. I. Now Oakland's got to come across after being whooped and they have a 10 a.m. game. I'll take Giants. Three ways from sideways. Jake: So moving right along Cincinnati is in Baltimore. Both these teams coming off losses. I like Cincinnati is kind of like a mini bye week. They played Thursday. They had 10 games to prepare. I know it's in Baltimore and I know Cincinnati's favored by one and a half but Baltimore came off thereby and lost. Justin: for the first time ever for the first time in 10 in 11 games i mean jason campbell looked like uh Jake: you know all pro why why hasn't he been playing why why when hoyer went when when um we even went down they put in hoyer yep Fine, defensible, they won some games. Then Hoyer goes down, why'd they go back to Whedon and not Jason Campbell, who is an NFL quarterback and has started four teams and won games? Like Whedon is awful. What was that decision? Come on, Browns. They don't wanna win. Everyone thought they were crazy when they made that Trent Richardson trade. I think they made a great trade. The problem is Indianapolis is gonna be like a really good team and the picks gonna be like number 25 or 26 or 27 and not like number 15 16 17, but They'll have two first round picks in a very good draft. So yeah, I like the trade term Interesting sucks and I like Cincinnati here because Baltimore Justin: They don't look very good. Yeah, I actually I I think Baltimore's up-and-down team. They're on a poster a post-super Bowl team They're gonna blow games that you think they should win But I think they're gonna win games that that you think that they should lose. I think they're gonna win this game I think I think Cincinnati has some weaknesses looking at them. Genos Geno Atkins out for the season their defense is not what it was. I just want Cincinnati to win. But the dolphins got to them and stopped them pretty easily. Got the Dalton, he had three picks. I could see Baltimore putting together. Again, rivalry and Baltimore, they're gonna get pumped up. They don't want to lose again. Jake: Alright, well I'll go take Baltimore. I want Baltimore to win one of these games here they're playing in the next two weeks because we got them in weeks. So I don't want them on like a... Justin: Four game losing stream when we go that's like in the pits Pittsburgh on a five game We see and whenever we got them right on to four o'clock Jake: So San Francisco in four o'clock three. Yeah Which makes no sense because they're now there are eight one o'clock's one last and then three there eight one o'clock's and three four o'clock's where last week there were six one o'clock's and 4 4 o'clock. Oh programming knows make any sense Justin: Flexes has started started flexing So flexing has started in two weeks because it starts after the ten flexed out a Giants game Jake: That's right. I've liked the Giants. They flexed in Denver. I think was Denver versus Kansas City

39:02 Jake: Oh, yeah, they just grabbed the best game. Yes, that's a really good game so this is maybe the best game of the Week I think San Francisco hosting Carolina games keeping me up at night. Is this the best game of the week? I think it is when I look at the full slate Geez, I mean I got Tennessee Jacksonville Justin: You got Pittsburgh Buffalo? I think Saints Dallas is probably the best game. Jake: All right, well, these are two teams that are pretty hot, but I think one of them's a fraud. I think Carolina's a fraud. Yeah, because they've won four games in a row. So this game's in San Francisco, first of all. Yep, this is the other one. San Francisco's favored by six. Carolina is a fraud. They have beaten, they've won four in a row, but they beat Minnesota. Terrible. Who has one win. They've beaten St. Louis at home. Terrible. They've beaten Tampa Bay. No wins. And they just beat Atlanta at home. Two wins. So they're road games, they're road wins in the last four were at Minnesota, at Tampa, a total of one win. Their home games were not against teams who have a better than 500 record either. So. The total of the records that they just beat in those last four games is crap. They're going to run into a buzzsaw off of a bye week and San Francisco is going to take it to them and, be like, listen, children settle down. We're going to beat you by like 20. So give me San Francisco. Wow. Justin: I like your analysis, but I think what you're forgetting is that the way that they're winning is playing some pretty good D. Against very bad offenses. And they're scoring points on offense. So they're doing- Against very bad defenses. Oh, there you go. Jake: They're just playing bad teams. Justin: Yeah, but they're winning. So- Jake: They haven't beaten a good team. Let's put it that way. Justin: Go all the way back to their- Jake: I'm gonna look at their whole schedule right now and tell you what they did. Okay? They lost to Seattle at home in Carolina. Right, it was close though. It was close. But again, Seattle, not a great road team, and they still lost to them. They went to Buffalo and lost. They beat the Giants. Terrible. Whoop-de-do. Destroyed the Giants. They did. But everyone was in the beginning of the season. And they're still two and six. It's not like they're anything special. They went to Arizona and lost. Yep, close. No, 22 to 6. They scored 6 points in Arizona. All right. And then they went on a four game winning streak against crappy teams. They have not played a good team. The only good team they've played is Seattle and they lost. And that was week one. Week one's a crap shoot. Yeah. These they're fakers. They're not good. Justin: You make a you make a solid point. I'm taking San Francisco you take Caroline Jake: I still think don't keep it close you think they'll lose by less than six. I think it'll be within three. Yeah, okay

42:02 Jake: Arizona is hosting Houston Houston had a weird game rewatching? I was a little bit. So, Kubiak, their head coach Gary Kubiak, at halftime he like had a heart attack. He did not have heart attack. He had a mini stroke. Okay, a mini stroke. He just kind of collapsed right at halftime walking into the... or leaving the sideline and they were winning and it looked like they were gonna win that game and then the whole just the air just came out of the stadium and Wade Phillips took over so that's never good um you don't want him as a head coach so Arizona is hosting Houston Arizona is a favorite by two and a half I actually like Houston in this game because now they're over the bit of the shell shock of the losing the coach at halftime and now it's a win-one, for the coach kind of situation. I love the one for the coach. I love that situation. So I'm going with Houston. Justin: It's the reverse of the, we're honoring our most honored person at halftime, you're gonna lose the game at home. Right. Jake: Has John Fox who had like and the same situation he was like playing golf during the bye, You had some winning seasons in Jacksonville, so he goes to you Denver goes to San Diego coming off their bye San Diego coming off a bad loss Denver giving seven I think they win handily here They need to take care of business in the division and stay within the game of Kansas City. I Justin: Think I think actually San Diego. I think Cindy will kick pick. I just need to go to go away I think Sandy will keep it close Don't think they'll win, but I think they'll keep it close. Jake: Really? You think they have the horses to stick with Denver? Denver, Denver could just score. When they have bad games, they score in the 30s. Yeah, it's true. But I still think they'll stick. It's a division game. Okay, and then the last one we're gonna pick in the Peckham is Sunday night, because Monday night's an AFC East game. Sunday. Sunday. So New Orleans coming off of... An awful loss to get destroyed by a terrible team Justin: New Orleans bottom feeders bottom feeders as I said in Atlanta Yeah, take care of these bottom feeder jets now ranked 14th in the ESPN Jake: I'm far ranking fuck the power ranking. We have 30 second now. It's right. We're gonna and we're gonna remember that and neither one matters No, the 32 does matter cuz it's doesn't yes, it does. It's a nobody blue You don't... Justin: ...funk it. I don't like the fucking power. It's the stupidest thing ever. Jake: But for us to have been ranked 2 is to our advantage.

45:01 Jake: Because we can use it as a motivational tool. Justin: I heard you get, for every time we get ranked a 32, you get extra 3 touchdowns. Jake: You get nothing except a nobody believed in us attitude, which is worth something. Justin: Well that you don't have to say from the power rankings you can take that from every article written about them And then you take it from the power rankings Jake: And then the power rankings are just one person you know what means something to them because they mention it all the time here New Orleans is hosting Dallas at night in New Orleans New Orleans Sunday Night Football Dallas Sunday Night Football on the road. They don't win in this situation ever. New Orleans crushes. They dominate. As a matter of fact, they don't even crush and dominate. They like, sort of dominate the last four minutes of the game. Like this will be close and then they'll win by 17 because some bullshit like... Tommy pass and then pick six. Butt fumble or something. So New Orleans is favored by seven. I like New Orleans. Justin: I will take New Orleans as well. Jake: Alright, so AFC East. We only have two games. Two games. And one of them is the Monday Night Game Is that for real? I think so. Justin: Because Pittsburgh just played in... New England. Jake: Alright. Am I right? Am I right? I am right. I am right. Buffalo's in Pittsburgh. Buffalo's getting three points. What? They're getting three points. Buffalo is getting points. Justin: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Getting points. Alright. Jake: So... You know, I have a standard that's the standard. These are equal teams. EJ Manual back does not matter. It's OK. They've they play close games. That's the thing with the bills. They play like really tight games. I don't think they're a very good road team, though, like they're they're much better at home. They play like shit on the road. So. I think Pittsburgh will be a little too much for them. EJ Manual will be quite overwhelmed as a rookie quarterback. We've seen what Pittsburgh can do to a rookie quarterback. Justin: So I'm gonna call this one Pittsburgh 24, Buffalo 10. Good everything you said except for the being destroyed by the Patriots last week. 51 points was it? 55. 55. The Pats looked like the Pats. Oh yeah the Pats had a coming out well. Fun that we've already met them. They were just like Jake: oh look, weapons! That could have been like us. Bronk. Amandola. Dobson. Running backs. Running backs.

48:00 Jake: Running backs. Crazy. Any guy didn't matter Brady look like Brady. It was Justin: I don't think Pittsburgh's gonna go back in and I think they'll come out. They'll beat Buffalo handle a but I think Buffalo comes back in the end. So 27 20 Pittsburgh Jake: , okay? And Monday night football gets the good game again. Oh, this is terrible. Miami Miami at Tampa and Miami's favored by two and a half points Um I'm what are they gonna spend on record? Justin: What are they gonna spend their 17 hours of pregame coverage covering on this game? Richie incognito Staff infection Dorell Rebus What's his face? Oh, Gruden, because it'll be Gruden with Gruden. Gruden Grindr. His brother. No, because it's his brother who's the other brother. Oh, sorry. No, he's in Cincinnati. I was thinking he was in Tampa Bay. Oh, he's coming back to his old team that he used to coach. They went to Super Bowl. But I don't think they'll have that much time. Oh, that's going to be 25 minutes of that. Jake: Well, incognito is going to be an hour. They're going to get an hour out of that. They're going to get an hour out of it on Sunday morning, and then they're going to be named... Recycle it for Monday night. It's gonna be terrible. It's it's not even worth watching. Here's the deal I'm so happy gets their first win Miami's just obliterated the score is gonna be 6-3 no touchdowns in this game Oh, maybe like five five to seven turnovers I bet Miami wishes that they didn't pick Tanny Hill and that they picked Russell Wilson in like the second round. Yeah, maybe Justin: I actually think that I don't think it'll be three six 6-3 Tampa, but I'd put it in the book. I think everybody gets its first win. Yeah, I think they win I think this is this is their game to like to win. I don't know. I feel like it's a interstate rival And I will be there at the game, so there you go. I will watch my wife be upset as her dolphins get destroyed. I just don't believe in the dolphins. They won like on this fluke, play, dalton being stupid. I, I just, I don't know. I don't know. I just can't see it. I think to everybody wins 1917. Okay, and and that's about it All right. Well, that's it. So again, we'll be back next week. What are we getting next week? We're gonna do mid season grades this season grades I will we can spend more time talking about how to make a shit burger team In the meantime

51:00 Justin: Follow us on all those social networks subscribe to the podcast have a great. Oh, we forgot to I was checking a fantasy league That's probably because we lost. Oh, we did both lose. I point, so pissed off. I lost by more than one. So I have a question for you. I did a honorable thing. What did you do? Because Jeff Cumberland wasn't playing. Jake: Right. Justin: And so I swapped out Jeff. I could have left him in, and I would have won if I had. And left in my quarterback, and left in Jeff Cumberland, not playing. Jake: So I'm going to make a ruling. If the guy is on the active 53 man roster Okay, then he is viable to play for your jet Kingdom fantasy football team I don't feel like that's not have to dress No, meaning if someone's awake from your arms. Yes, if you have San Antonio home, you could play him. Oh That's not that's not a rule. I don't feel like you have to play a guy who is playing Justin: I think you have to play a game who's playing because that makes it more fun. Otherwise you can literally just put in Jake: Anybody you have to dress for the game. They have to dress for the games. No, I think they have to be on the 53 man roster Justin: That's my ruling. That's my ruling. Well, yeah, but you don't I rule it. No, I'm the king anyway Jake: I think I did the defending champion I did the honorable thing. You did. And I lost. And I lost by a point. And I would not have done that thing and I would have won. Justin: And Russell Wilson got like 20 points and Gino got 11 and I would have won easily. Well, that was dumb of you. No, it was honorable. But anyway, we both lost last week, but we're both still... in the running although I think I just dropped down. All right, we'll be back next week. We'll talk more about that. Until then, as always, Jake and Justin saying goodbye week and enjoy the win. Go Jets. Jake: ["The Star-Spangled Banner"]