Training Camp Battles

Opening

Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women.

Transcript

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00:09 Justin: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Jake: Welcome to the Jekkino Podcast. running New York Jets podcast ever. I'm a geek and that very pumped up on a Friday Justin: because he took his meds is Justin! Justin how you doing buddy? Jake: Guess what? Training camp. BAM! BAM! It's happening! It's on training camp. I'm gonna spooosh! I didn't see you, but I did. Spooosh! Spooosh! Spooosh! Spooosh everywhere! Spooosh everywhere! It's a Friday. It's nice though. I'm actually looking forward to some... I kinda wanna kick my feet up on this chair. No, no, no. It sounds gonna be terrible. Alright, go ahead. We should sit in the bean bags we have in the studio. By the way today a BOMMY 68 degrees in the studio. That is that is balmy. Look my nipples. They're cutting right through my shirt Right through their shirt sexy. All right We have a ton to talk about and we got some time to talk about this might be a long once don't know I'm predicting 54 minutes Well, you do control a lot of that's true. I could just I could We want to start off, so we have lots of news. We're going to talk about training camp. We're going to talk about the signings. We're going to talk about the chess rewards. And then we're going to go into the training camp battles and who we think is going to win the battles. So you have to tell me who's going to win based on who's in the whatever. That'll be fun. But we do want to start with the Jet Kingdom fantasy league. We've been getting submissions. Thank you for those who've gotten them. I don't think we've responded, but we get it in them. But I want to open it back up and make sure everybody knows that they can. So old and new you can you can submit to be in the Jekkino Fantasy League, which is a what is we would say a 12 team league, 12 team ESPN jet. I mean, and with special rules, you m We had it happen a couple times last year and I like just I made the other person win Yeah, you lose. But yeah, but you can't win lose you have to give them points So I was thinking oh, you should be able to just say illegal lineup. No This is such a custom rule Yeah, you can't be like anyone who isn't starting a jet or is starting someone who's playing against all the people what they need to do To get into the league. Oh fuck

03:01 Jake: All right, this is somewhere in this document here. Yes, it is. Oh, it is. All right. I can do that You can read good job. You've got to send us an email. Where would I send that to podcast at? Jet Kingdom dot-com right and it wasn't working like two weeks ago. So working now if you've tried I'm gonna respond everybody. I'm gonna respond to everybody who sent if you don't get a response to me by Sunday. Yeah when you're listening to this by Sunday the 20th. Whatever the Sunday is after you're listening to this. Three weeks from now, whatever. Send it again. Because you should get a response to say, we got your submission. I will respond to each one. So podcast. I can do that right now. Podcast at JetKingdom.com. We're looking for eight good players. hours. Why eight? Because there's two of us and the two winner won. Well you won. Well I know. Aren't you one of them? I'm two players this year. You have two teams? Are you gonna collude and trade with yourself? We're gonna give the third place. Oh whoever came in second. Whoever lost two gets in. Oh yes right. Cause you were a third. I was third. We'll let you back in. And then whoever won the pick them. And the pick them. Yes. So we're looking for eight good players. That's correct. Are we announcing any today? No, we're not. No, we have submissions. We're not gonna announce. Yeah. All right. We're waiting for For just a slew of them. All right, so the rules are getting to the rules Email us a picture of you wearing Jets garb not naked no no naked unless you're a hot chick and that will take me fine as a bride no don't send me well you can be topless you can wear jets bottom and a maybe painted painted top I don't know whatever tell us what your team name would be yep make it funny What's your best Jets experience? It could be going to a game, it could be watching a game at a bar with a bunch of friends, it could be you know you were around for Super Bowl 3, whatever it is. What's your favorite Jets experience? Why you should be in the league? Tell us why we should accept your entry into this league. And last but not least Tell us Podcaster that's me Just or Broadcaster that's him Just me no shit. I fucked that up. You're the podcast. Yes, I'm the broad seriously fucking I'm a broadcaster you know what I was reading and I wasn't doing a broadcaster stock so ad-libbing that's podcaster style all right tell us who you like better the one has to really fucking tell us it's obvious tell the person who knows how to fucking read the copy is the person you should pick jeez you figure that one out all right so that's the league fucking it send an

06:01 Jake: email to podcast at Jack Kingdom calm Answer those fucking questions Tell us who you like right and I'll tell you funny. Yeah funny is a long way I mean does go because we have to read these fucking also tell us why you why you're not gonna let Justin and I dominate this fucking league like I want someone who's gonna talk try to take my ass Call us a shit zipper if you want right? I mean I dominated the league last year I won in a 12 team week. He wanted to he was like fucking nobody my daughter could win a 10 team week Me you all right No, no, because I won the league. So no, I'm the champion champion. All right. Let's get on. Let's move on. Let's get to the news. Speaking of champions. Justin: Camp is open. Hello, camp. Jake: Ron Jaworski goes through his yearly quarterback series where he ranks the quarterbacks from one to 32. He puts good old Geno. So Geno, last time he was ranked, I think when was all the GM's they ranked them. They ranked him the worst. Well, Jaws says, you know what? Justin: He's not the worst. He's only the third worst. Jake: So Jaws came out saying that Geno Smith was the third worst quarterback in the entire league. Number 30 out of 32. Yeah, it's third worst. Thoughts? I don't know if I agree with him. I mean, didn't we? Um... Didn't we say like, what was it? Who had him at at, um... Who had him at 32? It was everybody when they all did. So like every year. So Jaws just did 30? Yeah. I mean, yeah, OK. Based on last year, if that's all you're basing it on, I still don't see how like. Yeah, I guess I mean, he put Matt from five. He put Matt capsule and the list. Did you put a link here somewhere? No, no, no, because he hasn't gone through all of them yet. He hasn't gone through all of them yet. All right. Well, I guess, you know. I'm trying to think like all right you trying to read copy Whoever starting for Jack like who's below who's 32 and 31 I just said Matt Castle That's 32. I think that's 31 and then the worst was Ryan fit Ryan says Patrick was 32 Ryan Fitzpatrick Yeah, he started for Houston Houston. Yeah as of right now, so like whoever's in Jacksonville is better than Gino Chad Henny or Blake Bortles one of those two guys is better than Gino Yeah, or one of that starting the rat in the brown job is better than Gino Like who's starting the Browns is better than Gino. Give me Johnny football any day. I'm already saying whatever that little punks gonna Is ass? I'm on record on that one So many things you're Using the Houston Texans taking on the who is it the the Falcons was a Texans Falcons in the Super Bowl last year Injuries so good injuries. I'll never forget that so good. I love you making you know, how great it is like

09:05 Jake: Predicting a Super Bowl with all in all earnest sincerity and then having that team basically be the worst team in the league It literally means that you just don't know what the fuck it's all about. What's better is that you pick the actual Super Bowl winner from week one and it's true. And pick the teams. Whatever, dude. The only thing I didn't pick was the MVP. Alright, let's go. You're... Whatever. So he's 30th. Who cares? Go prove you're not. That's all. Yeah. So what? I'm okay with this because I just don't think there's enough in the tape. And we can talk about- How's like EJ Manuel ahead of him or like... I could come up with like four or five six guys who I just right feel like Should not be ahead of him, right? Yeah, EJ not is one of them I don't know whatever he should be in the bottom five anyway So whatever it is until he puts himself otherwise I guess there's a lot of talk about Gino and sort of the two Ginos. It was the Gino that led those three fourth quarter scoring drives to win the game. So was it the Gino who threw picks left and right, fumbled the ball, fumbled it behind him, had no powerball control. Justin: Behind the back butt fumble. Yeah. Jake: Or was it the Gino at the end of the season who was like really on target and playing well and you know. Now he has a full season. He has better weapons. I just can't see Geno being worse. I can't see it I just don't how can you take a guy who was? Pretty mediocre if not lower to mediocre last year give him a whole nother year Give him a better running game give him more weapons and he'd be end up being worse like what? What could happen to the guy to make it worse? He could just get, I don't know, he could just be worse. It could just be like, oh, now there's stuff for him to use and he's just as bad. By not my standards, but by a lot of people's standards, Mark Sanchez got worse over the course of his career. Stat. , the statistics. People watch the game and said he's not as good as he was. Yeah. Wins. Losses also mean a lot in quarterback. He could, he could win six games next year and he'd be like, Oh, maybe he got worse. That was a, it came up in. K. Now, Marc Sanchez, your friend is on the Eagles. I'm still a fan of Marc Sanchez. I'm just Jersey. You're a little bit concerned that... What about it? What happened? What happens if he turns around, if he do, would you just kill yourself if like, let's say they went to this rule and he stepped in and- Why would I kill myself? I don't know, because- I don't know, one who's always said he's a good quarterback. That's true. I don't- I- and that we gave up on him too early. Falcons, Texans, right? So you're- Falcons, Texans. Falcons, Texans. I still think he gave up on him too early. I'll go to my grape thinking that. Whatever. Yeah, I think the situation wasn't good. I feel like...

12:00 Jake: I know he would have been better than Gino was last year. I know that for a fact. Yes, he would have been. He would have been better. Statistically, I think he would have been better. I think we could have won one or two more games. Maybe he would have made the playoffs. Maybe, maybe. Maybe he would have made a run. It's all in the history books. All right. Let's talk about things that aren't in the history books. A late season signings by the New York Jets. That's right. I like this. This is a Jetsign Jason Dabin. Yeah. What do you think about that? I like it. What does it mean to you? It means that we have an extra edge rusher. It means Antoine Barnes isn't healthy as well. Coming from Jacksonville Jaguars, 7.5 sacks for last year. Had a season where he had a 18th- A monster season. 18th- A monster season in Philly like two or three years ago. You know, this isn't a game changer. This is a- This is a guy who's gonna come in and play on third down and rush the quarterback and- He's gonna be in like that line backer spot that Coppos plays Coppos will first and second down. Coppos will slide on third down passing down. Snacks will come out the three defensive lineman will be you know Wilkerson Richardson and Babin will be the rush linebacker and his job is gonna be to get to the quarterback. And basically, that's what Antoine Barnes is supposed to be, but Antoine Barnes is having a hard time coming back from the injury. And he's a lip-up list starting in the training camp. Uh, this signing A through F. Uh, who the fuck knows? He might not even end up on the team, so B B minus B minus. All right. Um, next up. A kind of interesting story, so the Jets have decided to... The story is called, just reward good fan behavior. But the underlying story, and we knew about this because I got the thing of it. Jets have changed their season ticket policy to now create a rewards point system. for jet fans. Okay, kind of interesting. You know, rewards points are becoming huge. Everything's into rewards. You know, you use apps. I use apps around the town. Like you do this belly and thing and you get this and you get a level up. So jets have done this. What's fascinating is so there's you get as a season ticket holder, they replace the paper ticket. So now your ticket is like a car. Yes. I kind of, that's the only bummer to this because I actually like the tickets. If you lose it. I need to get them replaced. You can also print them offline if you want to print them. But here's the thing, they put these points and you earn points. So what do you earn points for? For we earn points for false starts. Yes. We earn points for taking timeouts outside the two minute warning on offense. Showing up early to the game. Showing up early for the game. Two minutes. They get in there and be loud for every game you go to you get points Yeah, go to your eighth ninth and tenth game of the season you get more points. So awesome. It's kind of cool

15:03 Jake: It's really making the season ticket holder. Yes, you know you are the season to get older. I am three seats But who's assigned who's assigned to the actual reward card? You for all three. There is a thing in it that talks about it. I don't know. Because how do I get mine? There is a way to set up another person. Can I be that person? I don't. Can I be your person? I don't know. We'll see. Can I be your jet reward person? I don't know. We'll see. Anyway, some of the what can I cash it in for? That's the thing. So it's an auction based system. There's things from signed things, but roll tickets up to including suitable tickets. Rides on the plane with the Jets to a Away game. I want to go on the plane Yes, I want to be on that plane. I'm I'm playing San Diego. I want to go to San Diego on the Jets plane I don't care if they're going to Utah. I'm going on the Jets plane. Nobody plays in Utah Well, they even go on vacation dude. No, Cindy. Oh, that's like a long flight. We play Seattle. So cool Go get a fucking snack on the plane. Oh my god, I want to sit next to snacks and eat a snack. No. On the plane. In between snacks and say, hey, let's go get a fucking snack. And look, he talks to the rest. Oh, no. Because that's his thing. Like, imagine how big the seats have to be on the jets plane. Huge. Imagine like. Oh, you're the guy you gotta have a middle seat between snacks and Ellis Snacks is on one side and fucking Brian Winters. All right crazy question for you So here's the thing you get to this year. So not any year this year Yeah, you win this reward you sit next to one person for the whole flight. Yeah, I can't move Yeah, it's only one person not even a question would it be Rex fucking Ryan really question Okay, me he'd be the most fun guy to sit next to Who can you think of that would be more fun than Rex Ryan? Nick mangled Nick mangled seems like a cool dude and I wouldn't mind I'd be worried that Rex I'm gonna be so is fuck what happens if X Ryan is just sitting there doing no no no you have to set the stipulate Because every player can sit there and just be in their shit. I'm broken now if it were a couple years ago, I might have said West off Okay a player have to sit next to a player and you can't pick and you can't pick a Can pick Nick angle lunch at next time try and think I would have said like Bart Scott cuz he would yeah Sheldon Richardson seems like yeah, funny shit to sit next to Wilk my Wilk baby

18:00 Jake: He's just a really nice guy Richardson seems like a nice funny motherfucking guy. Yeah, he could be funny He seems like he'd be really well. I Kind of want to sit next to someone who's I've been on a team a long time like Richard's not a lot of pace maybe Yeah Again, I think Rex is the obvious choice, but you're right. A player, Nick Mangold's a very solid, very, very solid choice. I think the front. Oh, well, maybe Decker. Yeah, I just think from a new guy, he's also like a young guy. I've also seen his like TV show, so like I kind of know about him and his wife and we could talk about his new kid and like your wife's hot. So she was so hot when she was pregnant. Was she like hot pregnant? She was she was pretty big was she I haven't seen the show I don't know what is I've looked out. She's like she's Jesse James. She's like the famous No, oh, no, not the porn star. Oh Man, this podcast just took a dip. I always As you go deep on this every time you go deep I go footballs deep anyway I think this is cool. I mean, I know it's I know a lot of people are gonna say it's gimmicky and like, oh, well, you know, just trying to get people to do stuff. There's a whole thing on ESPN about it the other day, like, is this smart or not? It's smart. Yeah, it's fucking smart smart. I, why the fuck isn't it I'm gonna watch it on my 60 inch TV. But you know you get points for that? Justin: What? Yeah! You get what? For a white game? Jake: What do you do? You check in? Yeah! Oh, I so need one of these. It's so cool. Dude, I need one. I need to be... I need to have a card. Go with the training camp? I need a card. You need to go get your own tickets. No, I have these tickets. I need tickets. No, I have them. I need them. You did. You do not pay for them. I pay for them. You do. So not even close. So do not even in your. In your wildest dreams, I pay for them. I will send you the bill. I go buy myself. And I'll pay for them the same way you pay Anyway, just reward it so they sent out the big email they talked about it. They haven't opened up the website yet that you can go into. We haven't gotten the cards yet. I haven't gotten the cards yet. No, they just shipped like they literally FedEx. I can go home and they could be there. That's so cool. If they're there, I want to see them. All right. So anyway, I want to tell more about this. I know take one. It'll be able to see numbers on them.

21:14 Jake: I think so. It says in the picture. But anyway, we'll talk more about them and maybe as the season goes, we'll see how we're going. Fucking retinas scanning you with these cards? Of course you send them to the cards. And what if the people they bail give them to the cards and I send them to my trust? Yeah, trustworthy people. Alright, next up. So in the uh... Forbes came out saying... Who's this? What? Number 14. The New York of Jets. Who's number one? I don't know how to get to the ones. Okay, Texans are 12. Oh, that's interesting. Where's the back? The red socks are on the picture. Oh, on the picture. The Giants are 10 in case anyone's interested. All right, here's the top 10. Giants 10, Washington 9, New England 8, Bayern Munich Soccer Club in... You know, in Munich, they are seven. The Dodgers are six. The Cowboys. How about them Cowboys? Number five, the New York Yankees. Surprisingly, number four. I would have thought they'd be in the top three, but they're number four. Manchester United. Number three. Barcelona. Number two. And real Madrid number one. So the top three are soccer teams. And then you have the Yankees. Throw in some other some interesting ones. Yeah, go ahead. number 21 Ferrari Ferrari. Yeah, the the the Formula One racing. Lot of soccer teams. I'm going through Green Bay. Steelwars are number 27, dolphins are number... there you go, that's how we're better than dolphins. They're 29. There are a lot of NFL teams on this. Tons of them. All these are over a billion. Wow, the Panthers are worth over a billion? Really? Why not? I feel like the Titans I feel like these teams can be bought for almost $50. Well, Chicago at 1 billion but like the- r that's about to be sold to Steve Ballmer for 2 billion Well, they work, but then Well they, they are. They're gonna Let's go down and find number 50 Who's number 50? What do you think? Let's go back to 14 What do you think about it? What do you think about it? What do you think about it? What do you think about it? Sounds about right. and New York, New York, New York NFL team seems about right, I mean, head of the Green Bay Packers Yeah, I had the cult.

24:00 Jake: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Actually, where's the Mets? Probably not even listed. They might not even be on there. All right. That was my cool story for that one. Let's get into training camp. So here's what I want to do. Training camp's open. Training camp is on Donkey Kong. No pads. No pads. But everyone passed the physicals. So let's first time in Rex Ryan's tenure that every single player past their physical. Let's talk about the QB battle. We're great. OK, it doesn't. Let's talk about the I said, let's talk about the the battles of certain spots. OK, I've picked four. You have. I don't know if those are the four you want to discuss. I don't care. But I think we should go over the spot. I'll give a fuck. And we'll discuss space. spots that, oh I think there's another one in here that's kind of interesting. Which one? Oh let's just throw some out there. So let's, let's start with a low one. Let's start with... I don't really think we have a lot of position battles, but I guess that's the one quarterback. It's not really but okay I think safety is probably the most interesting of the position battles. There's only gonna be two starters and we've got three Okay, so talk about it. Well, you've got quarterback listed first. All right, let's talk quarterback I think you know wins I think it's I think it's I think it's at the end is more interesting in the beginning I think you know wins unless he totally fucks up somewhere in preseason like I'll put numbers around it. It's a three pick game Three pick game one game or one half a game or whatever he plays. I think he I think he could he could be sat and then if Vic does the opposite like if it's a three pick versus two touchdown Well, it's all gonna depend on what is that someone you only just die outside It all depends on obviously game three Pre-season the Giants game so that's what we know that's what we'll know who's gonna be the soldier say okay? Whoever's starting this game is basically the star but I'm saying what does so if you think that it's a if it's John if it's Geno's Job to lose pretty much what they're saying you know job what is he have to do to lose it? He's got a totally fuck so game three He's got fucking you're gonna pull him after games. I think game three is already over you know no cuz I feel this way I feel like if it's a true Competition which they're saying it is right now and they haven't named a starter No, they've have him started saying he's gonna get 75% of snaps fair enough But if you ask him who's the starter they'll say you have to be determined I don't know so line anymore, but is the line that's the line

27:01 Jake: We have a voicemail. Come on, come on, come on. So I think if they were smart, they'd have Geno start game one. Yup. And Vic would take over for him, and then the two of them would sit the second half of the game. Thank you very much. I think they should reverse it in game two. Let Vicks start game two. Then let Gino come in and play for him and see how they both do. They both play about the same. Gino starts game three and basically that's here's your make it or break it. Right. Play the first half. as though you're the starter, play into the third quarter, and don't fuck up this game. Now, do you play your starter who's won the job in the third, in the fourth quarter of the third game? In the useless? No. You don't, you don't, you don't. So, Gino back in the fourth quarter just to see? No. Okay. I mean, Gino only started game three of last year's. preseason because he completely missed actually missed game two right and her he he heard himself in game one very calculated move by Gino injuring your like little sprained ankle game one so you can't play game two it's not a big injury a little sprained ankle right it's like oh well we gotta see the kid plays gonna start game three the big start totally fucks up throws like maybe two picks, maybe three. Rex is super competitive and for some reason thinks that it means something to win that game against the Giants. Throw Sanchez back in there against the fourth and fifth string offensive line and and Geno Nudy is doing the whole time. Oh, he'sy, he's very calculated. That is pretty good. and get game three. No, I'm saying but to lose the job because I don't think it's open competition. Oh, to lose it? So I glared at prediction. I said he's got to play one of his things. If he plays game three the way he played game three last year, I think he's losing it. Okay. Because he really did lose it last year. Yeah, I know he did. He totally lost it. And he could he could have had it. It was being given to him even though he didn't deserve it. And he lost it. Just Rex's bullshit ego got in the way and decides to throw Sanchez into the game when it was stupid. Yeah, agreed. All right. Let's go on to other positions. Well, I think the more interesting one is sort of the back end. You know, the Matt Sims. That is actually the more interesting one. More interested in watching Todd Boyd play in the preseason. Well, not more, but it's up there. I'm kind of just going to be awful. Oh, awful. Awful. OK. So do you think he makes a team or goes to practice squad? I would throw them on the practice squad and let Sims continue. Yeah. I think with your third, I don't think it matters.

30:00 Jake: They're never active anyway. I actually, at this point, I've seen them out as much as I've seen with Matt Sims that I care to see. Throw in touch. Last year, I don't think the Jets had a third quarterback active all year on the actual game day roster. Well, because Brady Quinn was never active. No, no, he wasn't. All right. Let's talk about another one. What do you, so you said safety. So let's go through safety. What safety is interesting. You've got, you've got like five guys there for two starting positions. And I think they'll end up playing a lot of three safety looks, but you've got Landry, Antonio Allen. Yep. And prior. Kind of fighting it out for two for the two starting spots and then you've got your Quan Jarrett who played okay last year And there's still Josh Bush who no one's even talking about who is Drafted with Antonio Allen who I guess probably is out of the picture for safety But still places who do you want who would you like to see just Allen and prior? Landry just the third guy To me he's slow. Mmm, I mean Antonio Allen I remember that game against it was a game against the patch or he wasn't he was he the one who played against Gronk Yeah, he's the pick six and he did he did great second year player. He plays great against a big dude. He's very athletic. He's fast And I want our number one draft pick to be on the field. Right. Like you don't draft guys one now for them to sit on the side, especially safety. I'd like to see those two young guys. I don't mind being young out there as long as they're good. Like Landry is nice because he knows the defense real well and he's been with Rex before. He's not, I can't see him being as physically talented as any of these guys though. So I'd rather have the physical talent out there and then let them learn on the job throughout the season. They'll get there by the end of the year. Next one probably and stay in that area is corner So we have so milliner is gonna be a starter Well, he's they they're all in on him all in number one starting cornet You can't really not I guess Dimitri Patterson is on the other side I don't know why I mean, I guess I do know why I've seen him play like Wilson. Kyle Wilson is never mentioned as even a viable option to start on the outside. I know the first round pick. It's like, it's like, no, this guy plays inside. He's yeah, he's just like. But they drafted the Sky McDougall, who. I'm not too happy about the fact that they drafted him, but Apparently it's turned out like this guy might be a real hurt in the third round it's like well actually this guy's really good, so it's very possible that he can challenge But a lot of these guys are saying are inside like him

33:02 Jake: Dimitri Patterson who they got to play in the outsides were an inside guy a nickel guy and Wilson's an inside guy And I've ever won by inside up Who's the guy we picked up from off the? That the jet that the Patriots drafted rod I Dowling. Yeah, you know garbage garbage. I'm not a plane He's not he's not no sad a good football last year and not a good football But I'll be last year's two years Three years so what? The paths are ruthless. They just cut guys. It's like so what your second round pick Stephen Hill will just cut you Okay, all right. Let's go to wide receiver. What's your train is tough, man? There's so many guys in there I Mean there's guys like okay, so Decker clearly Decker is your number one Curly's clearly your slot number one clearly And then it just gets very tough. So I would say David Nelson is the other outside receiver. That's the one I'd like to see. I feel like he has some chemistry with, with, you know, they actually did something last year. I think he's the other outside guy. Yep. Then you've got, so those are your three main dudes, but then you've got Stephen Hill, who isn't a slot receiver. He's an outside guy. You've got Clyde gates you've got Greg Salas. Let's just throw Clyde gates and Slows off the window. We just there's there on the roster. They're in training camp. Then you've got the three rookies That's 11 receivers and by all accounts and Oh and Jacoby for it You're totally far. So so you got my all accounts is just Jill Jalen Sanders Jalen Sanders is gonna be on the squad like because he could play special teams. Yeah, and so can Ford So that means to kill Evans and Quincy and new what and new a new and not gonna be on the team and goodbye to Clyde Gates and goodbye to Greg Salas and maybe they carry seven That's a lot of receivers to carry all of a sudden. It's like we had no receivers We have too many receivers. Well, none of them are like studs. That's why you have too many Right. But I think there's upside in there. I mean, should I make my yearly This is Stephen Hill's year to do well? Should I? Should I throw your own saying in your face that we've been that that receivers don't get good into the third year? It's when it all comes together. That's when they come get I mean, again, On paper Combine whatever Stephen Hill has all the attributes you want you say he doesn't play tall. It doesn't look like he plays tall He doesn't play fast. He's he's tall, but he doesn't play tall He's fast, but he doesn't play fast and he has no hands and he has lack of hands But has shown bursts, has shown moments Against the Bills only It has played a few Bills games that He's played some amazing games against the Bills in MetLife Stadium Yes, those are good games Yeah, I agree, but I think that...

36:00 Jake: I mean, so what do you think is... So you have Decker, Curly Decker, Curly, Nelson, Hill Hill, you have the four Sanders, Jacoby Ford. Hmm, that's six. And I feel Evans. Evans is a bigger guy. I feel like that's that's too many. Maybe there's one more. All right. I mean, six feels like a lot. Um, so you don't want to talk about Titan. Any other, any other interesting pieces of your look into the offensive line? It's true. Abushi and Dakota dozer dozer. That's what you want. It's freaking awesome. So last year we drafted Brian Winters in the third and Abushi in like the fifth, sixth, seventh, something like that. And Abushi was a tackle and didn't work out for him at tackles. They moved him inside to guard during some of the mini camps because Cologne. It's hurt. So they moved Winters over to the right side Where last year he started on the left Yeah, they moved him to the right and they moved to bushy and on the left at the left garden They say he played pretty well I don't know how you play well in minicamp because I don't even think you're allowed to touch each other. But anyway So it would seem we have a little bit of a competition there. Two guys for three spots. I'm gonna go ahead and say it'll probably shake out as the starting five will be D-Brick on the left with Winters next to him, Mangold, Cologne, and Giacomini. And that'll be the way that it shakes out, kind of just... the right tackle flip from last year to this year. But I'll be very interested to watch in the preseason. If a bougie gets a start, I could see them giving him a start over Brian Winters in one of those games. Just to see what he looks like between Mangold and Dubrik. Right. Because Cologne is going to play right guard and that's that. But I'd like to see I'd like to see you know, maybe if a bushy can play Mean it doesn't really make much fiscal sense because we have so much money That maybe they just say forget Cologne goodbye your cut right? I don't see it happening cuz I think he brings a bit of an attitude and leadership to the to the Few too many penalties, but he definitely brings a like we're gonna fucking roll over you and kill you and that's what you want I like it. No, I like I want if there's anything that this team We have it on the defensive line where when they're out there, you know, we're winning that battle, right?

39:03 Jake: our defensive line is Like, if not the best, it's one of the top three in the league. It's gotta be. And young. The other side, I want to win in the trenches there too, because that's when we were good. When we were good, we were basically had the best offensive line. We would run the ball up your ass whenever we wanted to. Give me another, so like what's, give me the thing that you're- How much do I have to carry you on this podcast? I'm not, I'm asking you questions because you like to spout off and sound stupid. So give me your, give me your like one thing. So we're gonna probably have another podcast before the next. When's the first game? The first game is, so we're recording this on the 25th. August. you Set is the first game of the day. The seventh, yes. So good. So good at this. But before that, actually in... So good at life. Next week on Saturday the 2nd, so we can probably do a podcast after that before the first game. Is that the Hofstra deal? No, it's the Jets green and white. Oh, the green and white. Yeah. Are they gonna... Televise that they usually don't tell us that usually do it on radio. Oh, so yes, I'll be listening to the practice Let me ask you this. Okay, go for it. I Forgot what I was gonna ask you. Yes, so good not he's the best in the business for a reason people Shit. Oh man. You want me to oh now? I realize when does hard knocks start? It usually starts the week after It's like next week should be the week after that. We have the falcons this year. Yeah, so it won't be this it's usually tuesday's, right? So it won't be this upcoming Tuesday after that tuesday afternoon will cover the people showing up for camp this he this right in that week Yeah, yeah can't wait. Yeah, I love me some hard knots. Should we talk a little bit about the um I mean, I guess it's a little crossing of the whatever but the new Sunday ticket deal for all you football fans out there If you guys don't know about this Whatever you can talk about Well you were you were sponsored by Sunday ticket no, I know I know we're not if we were About it this year for all you people who are away in different places I probably only United States so sorry people outside United States But this is the first year that the Sunday ticket will be available As a, for people who can't get, and you know, you're in a city or something like that, you can't get direct TV, you can now get the Sunday ticket as a, as its own standalone thing for your mobile device, for your computer, whatever. It's gonna be available on PS4, PS3, uh, ESP, um, whatever, Microsoft, uh, Xbox, or Microsoft... Xbox one Xbox Xbox one So it's cool cuz now like you don't have to like ask you to mess around with Madden I just ordered Madden or Madden 15

42:00 Jake: it has Defensive controls like we're in line. It's like all of the defense this year So you can play like you like for each players you can have they have special defensive moves that you can do to like It's a bull rush or to spin moves so you can play defensive lineman and just kind of like Interesting. Yeah, so that'll be fun. Although I think you dominated me last year. Oh my god, I don't think I ever lost. Oh, that's terrible. I gotta practice more. But anyway, so Sunday Ticket, so if you guys haven't heard about it, I'm sure you have, but the Sony ticket is now available as a Basically, you can buy just the ticket and there's three packages like 200 bucks or whatever. I like it because that means you can have it on your iPad. You can have it on a computer. You can watch out of teams and they have a new fantasy zone, which is a fantasy channel that's just fantasy during the game. So it's like the red zone, but for fantasy. I don't know how that's going to work because I feel like the red zone is fantasy. Because it's kind of awesome with all the touchdowns. With all the touchdowns, but it's... Which is fantasy. So this is gonna be more like... It's all the scoring plays, but the red zone tends to stick with a game. That's for like a better game for a little while. I feel like this is gonna be much more jumping around, like, okay. The play kings are on offense at the same time as Detroit is on offense right at the same time as Denver is on offense Let's just try and show you every single play like to see if Adrian and the ball see if Calvin Johnson's catching the ball To see if Peyton Manning's throwing whoever the fuck Hmm, and I feel like it's gonna be a lot more jumping around as opposed to just scoring plays. It's like This dude is on the field. And we're not far off. I mean, in the future. You know what would really be cool is like, here's my fantasy team. Show me my team. We're not far off from that. You will plug in, you'll go into a website, you'll plug in your fantasy team, and then you'll watch a channel that will literally just bounce you from game to game as your players play. So, you know, you have Cam Newton, you're watching Panthers, he does something, then it goes to commercial, you're gonna flip over to where you're running back. He's on the Vikings, it's AP watching him go, and then it's gonna flip over to this guy. And it's just literally gonna be your own personal fantasy channel. It would be amazing. It would be very confusing. I don't know how you'd rank it. I don't know how they'd do it. It's a good idea. But it's very cool when it comes, if it comes. Really? Really? I haven't seen anything on SNY. I've been like where the fuck are you guys? Let's go Like camp open show me some shit. I mean there's already some camp stuff. I'm reading camp news now I'm reading this stuff on the internet, but it's like give me a half hour show dude. It's not SNY

45:03 Jake: Nothing. I haven't seen anything. That's what I want. I want more stuff. Here's this podcast I mean if you're Jones and here's the podcast. That's right we just talked about the Jets. We just did it. Jets are... All right, so give me the one, give me the, one player. If you had to pick one player, only one player to watch. Sit next to on a plane. No, no, no, no, you already did that one. One player to watch the one player, like you're, you're going to focus like a laser beam on and. Like, I used to watch him, obviously, on other teams and watch him run by us. I see him in person and if he has what he used to have, and I think we're going to do okay. Speaking of doing okay, remember our number one episode, which we'll probably record in the first week of September right before the start where we pick every game that's coming up. That's why we're not telling you about the season and stuff. That'll be coming up in a bit. But until then, you can, as always go to JetKingdom.com. You can follow us on Twitter.com slash just JetKingdom and Twitter.com slash JetKingdom. It's kind of a waste to follow me. Don't follow him. He's an asshole. During the season, I tweet during games and stuff. But like during the off season, I'm total useless. Facebook.com slash JetKingdom. Google plus iTunes. You can review us there. We'll be adding that review in a while. Or go to Stitcher. We have we actually have a Stitcher page. type in Jet Kingdom Stitcher or something like that, and you can read them as well, which is great. We have a couple reviews there. Actually, someone was giving us a bad review because he didn't like the way we were talking about fantasy stuff. So we're not going to talk about any fantasy. No fantasy for you. Hey, asshole, stop listening. Nice. And until then, we'll come back. I think we're getting more and more on a weekly schedule now, like we've got preseason games to talk about. So we're getting ready for the season. Until then, as always, go chats!