Sucker Punch

Opening

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Transcript

Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=0 @ 26.2s → Jake; other-primary cluster=1 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Jason-ref Jake cluster 0 sim=0.72.

00:20 Jake: While rejecting the podcast, the longest running near jets podcast ever. I'm Jake, joining me for the 243rd time in a row, straight out of the f- In this corner! Justin: Justin! Suck a punch! Not doing the last game! Get your finger out of my face! I'll punch you right in the fucking face! So we were not going to do a podcast until probably after the, uh... We were going to wait till Friday. Uh, we were going to wait till Friday? Because there was a game on Thursday. That's right. We were going to wait. We're gonna wait but you know what when someone gets punched and it's the starting quarterback Jake: Can you just feel like this is a jet thing? Don't you just feel like a jet fan right now? I feel like I feel like such a jet fan right now Justin: I got so many text messages and emails and chats and this and that and the other about this and it's just like the life of a jet fan. It is. That's all. Jake: So let's talk about we're not going to do a long podcast. Justin: We're just going to talk about a couple of things. We totally jinxed last week. We said we I you said we were doing good with Justin jinx the entire. So then fucking 2000, see Miller comes down with an injury on the wrist out. For like six weeks will pull the pammi. Yeah, but that was already known. Okay, he's back. Yeah, he's practicing Yeah, that's fine. What else the other one? Shaq Evans. Yeah Oh, no, the ousu guy. Yeah hurt himself Whatever to be expected Well, first of all milliner at this point he's a he's a class. He's just a walking injury. Yeah, get get get him out of there Like, well, whatever. Fifth string corner. Whatever. Whatever. Jake: What abs? Oh, no. It's Tony Allen. Justin: I'll turn you on for the season again. Whatever. I think Ron has miles is going to take his job. Jake: Really? Yeah, I would have liked him for depth. Justin: Yeah. But I think we have two solid starting saf safeties and then this guy, Ron Tez, is going to take how many solid quarterbacks do we have? count zero I know that number hasn't changed though oh wow you're reversing you're reversing your course I just like hours ago we don't even know Jake: what's really don't know what's really happened well we know that EK I take I key I key I key not gonna be a man doesn't matter he they got in a fight I guess I mean a real fist fight and for some reason he didn't he's colorblind so he didn't see the red on the jersey Justin: Oh, he didn't notice there's Gino. So then I thought you're going he's colorblind like he didn't notice that he was hitting the black man Jake: Wow, nope, I was gonna say the colorblind didn't see the red on jersey and he punches him and breaks

03:02 Jake: his jaw. Justin: But this happened in the locker room apparently. Oh, it was in the locker room? See, there's a lot of conflicting news here. From what I understand, from what I understand, they were in the locker room and there was a dispute over money or a conversation around money. Really? And Gino may have stuck his finger in this guy's face. Oh, so that's why you were... And this guy IK may have punched Gino right in the face. Okay. And then there's a lot of like conspiracy theories about like, the whole game is like getting after he throws two picks in practice yesterday. This guy Rex Ryan, secret agent or like what's going on here? Because we caught him immediately. He's gone gone. IK and Kampali. You're not on the team anymore. And, you know, I'm getting questions on Twitter. Should we try to bring back the Sanchez? Jake: It was something very childish. He got cold clocked, sucker punch, whatever you want to call it in the jaw. His broken jaw, fractured jaw requires some surgery. Justin: So he'll be out for like six days. We released IK. Jake: IK is gone. So the first, my first, my first reaction was, oh my God, I can't believe we're such jazz fans. My second reaction was. Actually was a little angry towards bowls because I I kind of felt like Somewhere the the buck stops and you have to be a head coach that doesn't allow the shit to go on So that's kind of like why is this shit even going on? Then I got to the acceptance part of it, which is well, I guess we have a back That's why we have a backup quarterback. Hey Fitz. Let's see what you can do for four weeks Justin: That is wrong. I have a backup quarterback. My third thought was We really looking forward to him playing anyway Well, I didn't lose in above back We did not lose an above average quarterback according to the rankings. We lost the worst starting quarterback in the league Oh, is that a second year running? So that's why I sort of came back off of my like I was very upset when when I got the news and then I saw I thought to myself I said you said self said self So if we have Ryan Fitzpatrick for a couple weeks, what's the big deal? They're probably about the same but then I went back on that and I said, but fuck I Really like six now dollars That's what they're arguing over $600 fucking $600. It's that so that's that's like three seconds of game time for his salary. Anyway, what kind of annoyed me was that Gino in a new system had a chance to be a new person and needed a full training camp and a full preseason to play in the system. And now he doesn't get that. And that puts it again like where all of a sudden if he doesn't play well it's like well

06:00 Justin: is it because he didn't have all this time to play? Jake: No it's because he's terrible. Justin: Just it just throws this thing in there that I don't like. I like it. Jake: It's just dumb. And it's the attention we don't need as a 15. Justin: We definitely don't need that. We're gonna be the top story on everything for the next two days. 48 hour news cycle going on here. I can't. And I felt network was just there yesterday. Thank god not today. Jake: Not there today. Uhh. Haha. Oh yeah, and he posted an Instagram on his way to the I guess hospital who Gino And he posted like very stern picture, you know, he doesn't actually look like he yeah Justin: $600 is point one two percent of IK salary and point zero zero four percent of Gino's Jake: Hey post this picture of him kind of on the way and he's looking very stern He says I'll be back like I guess he's making a joke about Terminator, but he doesn't look like that Why can't he play with a broken jaw? Justin: Cause it's broken and it needs surgery to be repaired. You can't just do that. You get hit in the head constantly in playing football. Fucking stupid. So, so what we got? 6-8 weeks where... So what actually happened though? It's over $600. Like... Sampling that. Debt. That's all I have for today. And who owed who what? Who cares? No, that does matter. No, it doesn't. It actually does. It does not. Let's just, let's walk this out. 6 to 8 weeks. So we're at August 11th. I don't understand though. I still want to know what the fuck happened. It doesn't matter. Someone punched somebody. Jake: I know who punched somebody. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. So 4 weeks out is the, alright, let's do 6. 6 weeks out is the 22nd. That means he's coming back that he could be back for the Jets versus Eagle game Which is our third game Could be six weeks out seven weeks out is in is in London Can't see him coming back at that game 8 weeks out is, oh then we have a buy after jets. So okay, he's back versus the Redskins. Done. That's it. Because there's the buy after London. He's having back for London. So he got two weeks to switch it over. It fits us in just lighting it up. All right, so let's talk about the reality of this. Justin: So apparently Gino owed IK $600. It's just he was gonna pay him right so when players reported to camp two weeks ago Gino offered to pay IK 600 bucks for airfare limo service Okay, Gino hadn't yet paid the 600 bucks. I can't wanted his money as Gino Smith says Said at his locker IK reached over and sucker punched him So this fucking guy... At least it doesn't sound like Geno being an idiot. No, he's like, I'll go get your money and then you got punched in the face. For 600 fucking dollars.

09:02 Justin: Let's take some positives. Is there a positive? No, no, no. There's a positive. I'm ready for it. Ready? Yeah. Jake: Geno... Positive one. Geno only has so many good games in him. So we might not get any of his bad games. Positive averages don't work that way. Positive two. This is a kid who never got the luxury of actually sitting and watching and learning. That's fair. Right? And so maybe there's a positive to this team going out there with this high-powered defense. We think it's going to be great. And this offense that seems to be whatever. That, you know what, Fitz can actually keep four to five weeks. We always said he could be good for four to five weeks, three to four weeks. Justin: Yeah, he has toys to play with. Jake: OK, there's a positive. Justin: I just don't think he has an arm. OK, like I'm actually legit scared. Like, do you know I knew I know he has an arm, right? So like if worse comes to worse, he could throw the ball down the field far. Like, I remember playing. fits with the bills. Yeah. And thinking, all right, we're winning this game because you don't have to worry about anything beyond 10 yards. And you're not going to run on right. Jake: Another positive. It's happened early enough. We are at the second week of training camp. We have three weeks training camp. We have four. I'm not talking about Gino. I'm talking about Fitz. He's got four weeks now for pre-season games. Pro he doesn't need this shit. I still want him to have it. I want him to get I don't want him to have to come in I know I know exactly what he is. Can he win us two games? I don't know how many plays got a four sure Okay, sure. Can you win three out of four? Maybe if they're the right opponent I mean, we got the Browns to start. Are we worried about the Browns? Could you or I play quarterback and win against the Browns? Possibly. I could hand it off to Chris Ivory. You couldn't. Maybe I could. I could play a good quarterback. Hand it off to Chris Brown. Chris Ivory. I don't know why I'm saying Brown. All right. Justin: Fucking blows. Yeah, we're angry. We're just angry We're not gonna take it. We're not gonna take this anymore, but we are what else you got you got someone Yeah, got at you from Twitter. Yeah, I was JG with our 101 you were trolling trolling Twitter. I was trying to get people to you know Jordan said should we try to bring back the Sanchez and my answer to that question is always gonna be yes Yeah, he can't even beat out Bradford. I Jake: Think he will he has not they didn't even let it be a weapon Justin: They just said my personal opinion is that Bradford can't beat the only thing Jake: I don't mind about I need fits to like shave like the whole like You look like... No, I like it. No. Justin: I like when they can't barely do the chin strap. And everything just hangs over the chin strap.

12:01 Justin: We're gonna see on Thursday, two days. Two days from now, we got a game. And Fitzy will probably play like... More than a quarter, I would imagine. Yeah, more than a quarter. Actually... Now I take that back. He can't get hurt. That'd be bad. Weird question for you. You cannot get hurt. Weird question for you. You really don't have a backup. Jake: Would you rather have put your eggs in the basket of fits? Yeah. Or go get someone off the street who's got more ability than fits? Because we didn't hire fits to do the team. We hired a new backup. Justin: Name that person. Well, I mean, they're talking to Rex Grossman. that person doesn't have more ability than Fitz. Name that person legitimately. Well, then I think... Try to name somebody on the street, an NFL quarterback on the street, that like... You're mouthing Michael Vick. Michael Vick. I don't think so. Jake: I never said it well. Knows the team. Justin: The patch just cut Matt Flim, but that's because he's injured. I'd go with Fitz. Jake: Okay. What about the thought of fuck it. This season's fucked. Bryce Petty? And just put in Bryce Petty. Justin: No, because it's not a season ending injury. It's a six to eight week injury. Right. Jake: He's gonna miss four games. Justin: He'll miss four games. Maybe he'll come back early. Who knows? Jake: You never know how quickly he'll come back early and be the incredible star that he was. Justin: time. Thanks for watching! If you think he sucks then why even bother anyway? Well I just think the whole thing sucks. Well, what you're saying is oh he'll miss two games so throw the season away. That's ridiculous. That's absurd. Alright. I- no it's not absurd, it's because I think that- that- that- Jake: What do you want? EJ manual? The window for Gino Smith is now closing tremendously. It closed faster than we thought it was gonna close. The window for Fitz is closing. We now need to be thinking, is it, I mean, again, I'm throwing out there's a crazy fan thing, because there's crazy fans out there right now saying, fuck it, put in Bryce Petty. He could be good enough to win us 10 games. Justin: Great defense. He could be a Sanchez. Would love to see what he can do in the preseason. Jake: It would be fun. Question, he lights it up and pre- I mean he sounds like he's not doing very well. Justin: It'd be fun to see him play with starters against starters to see what he could do. Okay. And they probably should do that. Because he's got an arm. They probably should do that. They would be smart to let him play some series against starters. Maybe not game one, like get your bearings. See the speed right whatever but in game two When you really don't want Fitzpatrick to get injured Maybe maybe see what petty can do, but I I just don't see it Jake: Personally I mean just well even what college you there's a no there's no what you there's the things you know And there's the things you don't know we we All right, let's say Gino's out for the season, but he's not let's say is but but you're making up silly

15:05 Jake: Hypothenyl I'm not I'm saying this guy He comes back and and and why is there a possibility Fitzpatrick could do good enough? Yeah keep the job sure Justin: What does that look like to you for no three and one three and one, okay? Looking good not a three and one like defense. We won nine six. Okay, like not one of those that doesn't count Like lighten it up scoring 25 30 points a game Gets the offense in a rhythm Things look really good. Well, we'll see on Thursday on the field like you can tell like oh, wow He's taking the bull by the horns. All right, we gotta go How'd it fucking go then? It's been fun. It's been real. Fuck you. I'm gonna sucker punch you right now. 600 bucks. I'm gonna sucker punch you and... As always. I'm gonna put some duck butter on your face first. Jake: As always, Jake and Justin, hot takes from the podcast studio. Let's go Chats. You