Bad Luck

Opening

Onan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they'll hear the lamentation of their women.

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00:09 Justin: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Can't wait! Jake: Three, two, one! Go, go, go! Weeee! Welcome to The Dick Kingdom Podcast. running your Jets podcast ever. My name is Jake and joining me for the 165th time, god's a lot, it's Justin. Justin how are you doing? Um are you feeling better after last week? I am, I do actually feel a lot better now than I did a week ago. Uh feeling feeling a lot a lot this is It's hard during the season to be in the situation where you thought you'd be five weeks before the season started And even though okay with me okay with right. It's a weird odd It's like feeling it's like yeah, we're two and three. We're gonna be two and three right I called this I knew it was gonna happen. I picked the two wins, and I picked the three losses right Why why why why we freaked out the injuries help Right because the games that we think that now down the path now we have all these injuries We've lost the best the two best players on defense and offense Now that we have that going forward. It's kind of hard to say okay Well where I thought we could maybe win one of those Patriots games where I thought oh those crazy Cardinals They didn't there's such a shit. Oh wait. They look good Rams don't look, oh wait, Rams defense not looking bad. Seahawks, Seahawks not only looking good, but we gotta go beat them in their house. And you know what, I bet you they're gonna give them, well, we'll talk about this later, but they're gonna give Brady and the Brady Bunch what for this week. We'll see, maybe, yeah. And even the Dolphins, Dolphins, oh, Dolphins, they suck this year, but their D is pretty good. Like, they're not, and they're not getting crushed. They're... they're winning some more games and they're not getting crushed. So I think it's hard to, you know, in the middle of the season you're also looking at like the rest of the season saying, well, I didn't predict any of that. You predicted maybe to be two and three, but you didn't predict all that stuff to happen. Now, Steeves collapsing? Hey, I'll take it. Well Raven still a good I mean the people who we would have thought to meet up in the in this in the playoffs Yeah, I mean, you know Cincinnati still is a good record or whatever. So we got an agenda or whatever We'll talk about this winging was just to go talk with Jess versus Texans do a recap so some injuries Pick our fools the week since we lost although If there is a loss that somehow doesn't feel like a loss, maybe there is. We'll talk about some other kingdoms. We'll go over to the Jet Kingdom Fantasy League and see who's doing what and why and who's good and bad. We'll do our Jet Kingdom pick and we'll pick every game with the spread on Yahoo, where everybody can play with us if you want actually.

03:05 Jake: And then we'll do our throne picks where we pick the AFC East Games with scores. And of course get to our jets versus indie keys of the castle Maybe throw in a fuck you somewhere to some for sportscaster at this point you can literally almost just say fuck you Insert every sportscaster on the planet. I was gonna do a reverse fuck you Do it start off the show with the reverse fuck you the reverse fuck you is like like a non no and not fuck you Oh, okay. I was gonna praise somebody for stepping up and going against the grain a little bit. And saying what, they shouldn't replace Sanchez with the grain? Yeah, yeah. Uh, Ron Jaworski. Oh really? Ron Jaworski was on PTI yesterday in the 5 Good Minutes segment and they spent the first minute or so on Sanchez. And Jaworski basically was like, I look at the coaches tape every week. I break that down. That's what I do. The guys not getting any help right? There's no receivers open. There's nowhere for him to go at the ball. There's no protection He's got bad luck guys are dropping balls guys are tipping balls are getting intercepted. Yeah Bad luck the throw that he made that was tipped for an interception by Watt that was gonna be a touchdown Just so happens the best defensive end in the league knocked it Nick got picked off he's definitely a the last interception at the end of the game Keller makes that catch Cumberland doesn't pick game over he's like you don't want Tebow in the game he's not a quarterback this guy's getting a raw deal right now with the injuries and it's at some point we're gonna have to stop making excuses but the last three or four games have been unbelievably bad right This is my worry for this team, is does this team, and I know there's a mentality of the games, and there's people who get paid to play, and yes you got to play every, but there are teams, and again I've said this all year, there are teams who just fold, and they just mentally go away, and yeah they'll show up and they'll play, and they might score a touchdown here or there, but there are teams that kind of band together and turn into a super team, and then there's teams who just kind of like Yeah, we've kind of we're out And I just list that could bring us right into last week's game. Yes versus Texans. We were there We were there and we could have damn well won that game. We had every shot of winning that game Not a you know, not really the game. We thought it was gonna be I was more We had the ball though down six with about three and a half to four minutes left. And we had a chance. Yep. All we needed was a drive for a touchdown and we could not put it together. Here's my recap. They still again score one touchdown on offense. Here's what I feel about that game. They are who we thought they were and we are who we thought we were.

06:00 Jake: We didn't have enough weapons to win. . We actually have a great special teams, and we can still score on special teams. I think I predicted that. It kept us in the game. Matt Chob, not great. 14 for 28, 209 yards. He just doesn't have... He's sick, exactly frickin' Alex Smith. He just does enough because he's got a runner that can do 152 yards on you. drop bombs on you that that whatever that was that second in one or second from their goal goal line where it was like a first down play first down play and he runs in 10 from there two yards and he just busts it to the 50 so painful um but yeah i just feel like we had a shot and and and again i'm i'm i'm upset because I get upset about the losses. But in some ways, I feel like this team is better than everybody thought they were with the Jets. They're better, they kind of stood up, they're doing things that could win games and if we weren't going against, if again, we had some weapons and we weren't going the number one defense in the league. I think we could hang in there and I think we'll be able to hang in with some teams. Not as opposed to just like being the worst team in the football. Well, the passing defense played pretty well. Cromartie stepped up, shut down Andre Johnson. There was a couple of bad like miscommunications. The first touchdown to Owen Daniels was... awful. Guy was just wide open. First drive was really bad but after that they settled down a little bit and pretty much held Houston in check after that first drive got themselves in trouble a little bit the end of the second quarter with interception and the run back and all that but and basically put them in field field goal position but essentially I think we played them pretty tough again we had some trouble with Stopping the run. This is awful stopping the run. Oh, yeah. Well, there's there is no stopping the run It's terrible the only good news about once again. We're going against a team that doesn't run Yeah, they don't rookie and they don't run but Aaron Foster for a buck 52 and a touchdown He ran the ball 29 times. I mean That's a lot. All they did was hand him the ball first down He'd gash us for five right and then second in five and it's like, all right We can hand the ball off again and get it We can throw down the field, we can do whatever we want. We don't have that option. We have Sean Green carry the ball eight times. That was like the leading attempt, rushing attempt guy. Eight rushes for 26 yards. Tebow, five rushes for 19 yards. These are awful numbers. Powell, four for 18. McKnight, four for five. I'll actually get one. Eight long. He got sacked way back. That stupid stretch. It's terrible though. It's terrible. They're not even... I mean, the running attempts were 35-23. And that's what we're supposed to be and we're not. We're not. It's all gone now. We're not a ground and pound team. We're not a running team.

09:00 Jake: We can't run. We don't have a running scheme. The wildcat doesn't work the read option doesn't work. We're not tricking anybody. That's the problem We're not tricking anybody right anybody I mean well if the options for them to sack our people and have a solution options good option And they they wasted they burn two timeouts in the second half on getting that package in the game Yeah, because look you got to know If it's so important that Clyde Gates got hurt like if that's really important for the continuity of the game Clyde Gates got hurt, right? Because now you have to go to Jason Hill who's been on the team for three days And you're trying to run these packages in and out of the field and four man substitutions. Don't do it Just don't do it. It's stupid. If Clyde Gates gets hurt, and... I keep repeating that because it's like absurd. Clyde Gates gets hurt so it ruins the gameplay. Clyde Gates is so hot right now. Justin: Ugh. Jake: Uh... Don't do it. Just, you're confusing people and you wasted two timeouts. Maybe you didn't have to rush the end of the game so much and maybe those two timeouts help you get the ball back at The end instead of letting Houston just run the clock out There's all sorts of things that you know to timeouts wasting timeouts because you can't get substitutions on the field It's just stupid and if and if it's and even because and it's because it's not it's not just that It's also because we're putting in this day. It's a different completely different package like a new quarterback is running on the field. Just stop it already, stop it. Well I feel like every team is going now. Like you're doing the, what's the guy doing on ESPN now? Stop it. I feel like the other teams are going and seems to be a trend now is just to hurry up. There's a lot of hurry up in the off team. Tons of hurry up. Tons of hurry up. No huddle, hurry up. We're doing the slow down. Like let's take some more time. Let's let the defense have more breath. Let's get this other guy in here. Again, I still feel like there's a role for Timmy. Timmy yeah, you know what it is fake punts fake putt he's good at those fake Here's the problem. We pulled out every trick in the book. Oh, yeah, and we lost this game Yeah, well we had a chance to win. We fake punted to get a first down We ran a kickoff back a hundred yards for a touchdown unbelievable, which we then onside kicked afterwards, which I was all in favor I think that's I was I was fine with it and We should add it. We didn't fine. I was fine with it. It was ballsy call and it didn't work out But that's okay. Sometimes sometimes that's okay. They didn't score touchdown on it. They scored a field goal off of it But you know it is what it is I feel like that's that's a little bit of the problem though we sort of pulled every trick out of that out of the hat and Still lost right it was like that. We but that was a little desperate was it was just it was desperate But it was desperate against a very very very good team. It wasn't desperate against the bills. We didn't hold our own We didn't it was not it was not the 49ers game No, we were not out of it. We had a chance and I didn't feel like we were ever really out of the game

12:05 Jake: No the whole time and I thought the defense played well enough particularly in shutting down their passing game. We still don't have any ability to get to the quarterback. Well that's the big worry. Ludicrous, because you spent two first round picks in the last two years on defensive lineman. When the Giants do that, guess what they get? JPP, Justin Tuck, OC, they just pull guys out of nowhere and they get... 16 sacks, like they just rush for, they don't care, they don't need to blitz. We need to blitz, and we're blitzing and it's not working, we're not getting there. And we can't stop the run so the defensive line's got some some which are supposed to be out of a Was supposed to be the strength one of the strengths. Yes, our deep strength Yung not happen. Nope missing assignments not setting the edge at all it's just not working so I'm gonna just skip right to the fool and I'm gonna give it to the defensive line I think you've done that like 4 times now defensive line, you guys suck step the fuck up when you got these, the secondary's playing their ass off without Revus, Cromarti's stepping up Looking good Kyle Wilson's that looking like a leader cro Marty. Yeah Cover give me Andre Johnson. I'll cover him one catch for 15 yards or whatever Come on everyone's got to step up. Yep, totally Bart Scott step up Or Scott, I don't know. I don't know what Josh from alga is is injured for the rest of the season Scott's got to play more, right? So that's my fool, the defensive line, pathetic. Pathetic! Hahaha! Uhhhhhh, trying to think of it, you know, I gotta make a Cumberland. Hey, we won the second half, 10-6. I gotta make a Cumberland, like, I just- Catch that fucking ball! , a, catch that It hit both his hands, right? Like you watch the replays. You watch the stuff. Yeah, I do watch the replays most of the time. Did it hit his hands? I think it hit his hands. Like it hit both his hands. So catch the fucking ball, right? Yeah, and again, it's like, it's how they're, it's how they're not catching the balls. They're not not catching the balls. It seems like this new thing in, in on the jets. It's, if you're a receiver and you can't catch the ball. You know what you should do with the ball? Hit it as high as you can. Ball, let's hook her up. Let's see if we can get, let's see if we can get someone else to catch it down the field. It's like, oh, you're gonna get hurt? That's what they're doing there. Don't just get hurt and roll down on the ground. Go down and throw the ball in the air. If you're gonna not catch the ball, hit it up high. You know what that is? That's good coaching. Oh, God. That's being taught well. Alright, my fool has come rolling. I just...

15:01 Jake: Even though he had a nice touchdown catch? Yeah, I think he was wide open when he caught it. Nice catch. Yeah, just nice throw. You know, you know, if Kelo was in there, I feel like this game would have been completely different. Maybe we'll see him this week. Well, and talk about injuries. So we have new injuries to talk about for next week. We're going to talk about that this week. We are so snake bitten. Should we talk about the injuries we had during this week? Let's just talk about these injuries. So Mauga is out. There was some controversy this week with the injuries because of what Matt Slauson did or cut. Right. Cushing's name. Brian Cushing, who's a really good linebacker. He's out for Out for the season. But I don't feel like it was malicious. He just cut his cup block. They they're a cut block team They're a zone block cup block cutback team. So they were doing it all game to us Looks like man gold is gonna give it a go. Yep. He's a warrior He'll step in there watching him get watching him came back in the game, right? How I see him go off on a cart is like yeah, we saw him go off in the cart We're like, oh, we're really fucked. We are so fucked and then He came back. Yep. He played and it's all of a sudden he's back in there like all of a sudden It's like oh, I guess it's have you noticed I don't know if you've noticed like Vlog du Cas has been playing about 25% of the snaps Not in the jumbo 63 is eligible because that's that's Jason Smith 63 eligible at 62 do cos he's been playing left guard For series for Matt slosin like they've been rotating. Yeah, I don't know if you've noticed this Yep. fucking run the ball and can't protect the quarterback but because there's no continuity on the offensive line but still You know you think? Now that we mentioned the 63 is eligible Jason Smith. You think you throw an extra? Tackle in the game to play tight end you'd be able to run the ball. It's like yeah, we got six offensive linemen What you're gonna do now stop you for one yard like it. What would you do with five? It's really pathetic. So essentially got through a sack three times in the game. In this game? Three times. If you say so. Three. He had a lot of balls. Tip two. Yeah, so we also, I mean, looks like this week we might get Keller back. We might get Hill back, the other Hill. We get two Hills. We can be the two-hill team. Jason and Stephen. Who's the second hill? Oh, Jason, right. Jason and Stephen. I went ahead and said that a hill catches the ball. I was like, he's back? Oh, no, that's not fun. That's just some guy we got off the street. But we've lost. Kendrick Ellis is out now four to six weeks. And Eric Smith is out. Yeah.. Looks like we're going to be missing Eric Smith. Sione Puah, I don't think is going to play.

18:01 Jake: So we don't even know who's going to play nose tackle this week. At least we're playing a team that doesn't really run. So it's not that big of a deal. Yeah, you know they're just gonna gash us this run. I don't know. I don't think they really have a good running game. Well, let's get to it. So, other kingdoms. Um... What are your thoughts? You watch any of the other games? I watched the... I watched the New England game. Okay. Now, talk about a team that does that no huddle stuff. Man, oh man. They put you in such... they're gonna kick our ass the first game. They put you in such a bad predicament, cause they don't substitute. They'll have the same guys on the field, same 11, and run all sorts of different plays from different formations. They're very willing to run the ball this year. So they'll line up with the same guys. Don't let you substitute because they don't have to because they didn't substitute So if they sub a guy then you have to give the time for the defense to do it Yeah, they don't they don't care. They just get up to the line of scrimmage They see what you're in Brady gets them in the right package. They'll run out of a out of a shotgun. They got good Talented little running backs. They got like four of them. It doesn't matter who's in they're all running Including Danny Woodhead, which is annoying still I thought they look great. I mean they get in that no huddle that hurry up and They are I feel like they're unstoppable. I Mean it they just they run and they pass out of it And you don't know what they're gonna do and they don't let you get a sub in so by that by the end of the drive you're just completely winded and they just run it right over you. It's going to be interesting to see this week because they're in Seattle. It's a tough place to play. You know, Miami? Miami not looking bad. No. Not looking as bad as... After that hard knocks, it was like, wow, these are a bunch of jokers. This team will never go anywhere and nothing will ever happen. They're not too shabby. They play good defense. Tannehill's not too bad. They can run the ball. They can stop the run Wow, what a novel concept they can run the ball and they can stop the run Yeah, that is that's a novel concept But that's what we were supposed to be it looks like week 17 might be an interesting one because even though we got our asses kicked by the 49ers Man did the wicked bills get there? I really they they had something happen to them Now if you think about the 49ers, the history of the 49ers, and the- They had two receivers go over 100 yards and they had a running back run for 100 yards.

21:01 Jake: And they'd never done that before. They had over 600 total yards. They ran for over 300 and threw for over 300. So if you thought we got crushed, they, the Bills, got absolutely demolished. and it kind of pisses me off now that we played the Niners at home. I really wish that we would have just went to the San Francisco because we had no chance and had Seattle come to us. Because you know that NFC West, you know, Seattle's hosting us. So you, wait, let's just make this down for people, the podcast listeners. You rather have gone to 49ers and lost because you knew we'd lose there. That's right. Then, and then have the Seahawks come to us because then we could beat them. Because then there's a chance to beat them. Tough to beat Seattle in Seattle. When you're on, when you're on the Alright, well let's move on to the Jett Kingdom Fantasy League! How you doing? I-I'm doing awesome in that league. How'd you do last week? Who'd you take on and what led you to a victory or a defeat? Oh from last week? Yes. How do I even get back to that? Wow. I don't really know how-oh, scoreboard. So, so- So last week I-I took Beidou, Beidou, who wrote us an email last week. Yes he did. I took him to the woodshed. end. His name is the woodshed. I took him to the woodshed. Yeah, and I'll be behind it behind the woodshed. I won 106 to 84 Beat up on him pretty bad. Sorry beat oh you're one in four. I'm four and one Oh, you know the worst the league must be this one in four. There's a couple other one in four I think there's one other one in four nice New York sock exchange is also one in four speaking New York sack exchange Just before we get to you you also won last week yes but my theory is going very well by the way yeah you have a good theory going um i just put in the guy put in any guy in that position bro okay mark gastonow was inducted into the ring of honor yes he was oh my lord that was a speech and a half i'm sorry it's not i say a speech and a half i mean That was embarrassing. Don't boo him! Don't boo him! Is there something wrong with him? Does he have a like a brain thing going on? I don't know. Because he was either drunk or he's got like a brain issue. He's partying. It's Monday night. It was bad news bears. I wanna kiss you, Susie. No, he was there too. Name it. But I know. But that was a pretty brutal speech from our guest. Well, it was weird because they mentioned Woody Johnson, and then everybody boos because they boo Woody Johnson. For what reason yet, I'm still not whatever. I mean, you boo me too, too. I don't get it, and and and the and a, the. I,

24:03 Jake: I don't know, but whatever, they booed him. They basically for the last couple years they've been booing him. I think they were even booing him. Were they booing him in the old metal hands? Oh yeah, they always boo Tana Mountain, they always boo Woody. Just because you just boo. You just boo. I never boo. I don't boo any Jack ever. Anyway, so anyway, they booed him and then Gasno was like, no, you know. So anyway, that was that was a weird. I thought he his piece was really crazy Anyway this week I'm playing the Jets over the pond, okay Who's already beating me six nothing because he had somebody playing last night I think he familiar scored six points for him and you are playing the Florida big long oh Well last week I took Rick Beal main the hooligans took him back up to main I beat him he just didn't have any just didn't get enough out of that ball Powell got one point for him again in my theory I have the jet I have the best jet who you have Jeremy curly that's pretty it's a pretty good one I mean I have and I didn't even have to him in the first round I basically don't want points out of my jet I got I got Conrad Rool I and I he's my tight end I don't care. because I'm rolling. You're basically just getting zero from the jet. Because I got Aaron Rogers, Jamal Charles, Ryan Matthews, Brandon Marshall, and Brandon Lloyd. Brandon Lloyd I should actually flex out of here. All right next this week I think I did and the bear in the Raven's defense so it's like I don't care get me a point don't get me a point just don't get on the field. Um in this week oh who doesn't even matter if he's on the field. Well I just need Curly did not get hurt. That's true, because there's not a lot out there. Have Tim Tebow. on my bench. But he has to be a quarterback in order to get played. It's kind of unfair. I feel like I should be able to flex him in. You should, because he's played enough as like a running back to me to be able to get flexed in as a running back. Yeah, and yet I go to a local movie. Why would you want to play him as a running back? Well, but as a flex. Yeah, I have better flexes. But anyway, so cool. Let's get to our pickle. Let's get to our pickle. Alright, so how did you eat last night? I lost last night. Yeah, me too. I had Pittsburgh last night giving six points on the road. How did you do last week? Last week you did pretty badly. I did not do very well last week. By the way, I want to throw out some numbers. Last week I had five. Here's numbers I like to see out of you. Yeah. 12 8, 7, 9, 5. Well 5. Yeah, no but 12, 8, 7, 9, 5. 8, 7, 9 is consistent. That's an average of 8. If I average 8, that's good. 12 to 5. Well, we also had bye weeks. Here's me. The first week. 5. 7, 7, 9, 7, 8. that's consistency yeah whatever I'd rather have the 12 in there so fuck off so you're all of three my fuck you this week is Jake take thank you all right let's get to it let's do it I want to take a break last night in Tennessee

27:00 Jake: yeah you have Pittsburgh last night I did yes all right okay so we both start well you know what let's just before we um Because I feel like we're, I'm no longer in first place in this thing. So who is in first? Matty Jets with 44. Very nice. Nicely done, Matty Jets, who took over for me last week, or this week, I guess. So I'm no longer in first, but I will catch you, Matty Jets. With holding number. And I will beat you. in the fantasy league. So there's a couple people who have stopped playing because holding 82 offense. Yeah, there's a couple people who've stopped, I look. But some people are actually that bad. Yes. So... Oh yeah, well, most... Everybody played up until there's two people. Tillmows, UK Jets are not playing. I don't... I think Bill Knapp missed a week. Oh, he missed a week. 7-4-6-0-5, yeah. Um, Tebow by... yeah, there's a lot of people ahead of me, but I feel like I can catch up. Whatever, I'm still ahead of you, and that's all I care about. That's six points, I'll make it up. Well, four, three points to you, six points to the top. I'm coming. That's all I care about. Alright, let's go. Let's start it off. Sunday. This is so weird. It depends on the browser I'm looking at this in, I guess. Which time zone? Because now I'm seeing one o'clock. I see one o'clock. I see all ten AM. I see one o'clock. So, alright, whatever. Remember. I already made all my picks. Me too. So I usually make them on the fly. So maybe these are a little more informed. Let's start in Atlanta, where the Falcons, who are looking pretty darn good, at home, take on Oakland off a bye. Atlanta's really good. They're really good at home. They're giving 9 points. I don't give a shit. They could give 14 for all I care. Give me Atlanta. Don't like 9 points. Take Oakland. Uh... Big AFC North battle! Cincinnati goes to Cleveland. By the way, speaking of Cleveland, did you watch the America's Game 95 Cleveland yet? You gotta watch it. It's great. Really really well done. So since he's going to Cleveland Since he's favored on the road one and a half. I don't think Cleveland's very good I'm not sure they're gonna win a game one and a half not enough points. So give me since II Yeah, only one and a half. That's sort of like and it's like I'm just trying to pick the winner here I'm picking back at two two one one and a half with that close. I'm just gonna pick the better team So I'm picking since a Same here. Miami, I'm gonna skip. Yay! Oh, first time of the year. You know what the problem is? Apros That was funny. Uh, I usually don't pick these ahead. So like, as I have to like look and actually pick. So what you're saying is? I picked already, so I'm just zooming through it. That's a bit mistaken. So for those who you don't know we're not supposed to mention AFC games because we picked those in different segments But we like to watch We fuck up from time down. All right Philly good. We skip to skip to Philly is hosting Dichwa and Billy's favored by four and I don't think they've won a game by more than one or two the whole year

30:01 Jake: Don't I don't see how this is possible. So give me Detroit off their by getting four Yeah, I that was the big one for me Detroit off the by Detroit has not been sort of they're one in three But Philly's not that good either. They've been winning by one point Yeah, so fine if they win they win by a field goal, right? I know I agree and I feel like Detroit has from last year anyway The true is that no matter how far you got them down. They always had the ability to Wing it fling it chuck it Calvin Johnson to the Megatron so I'll take Detroit as well me too Tampa is hosting Kansas City and Tampa is giving for This line's crept up because I think Kansas City is gonna be starting Brady Quinn I think it's kind of just what they need, you know castles playing really bad Brady Quinn's probably No, the same level as Cas. No, it's not like castles any good. No, but it's not my Brady quince any better Yeah, but castles sucks pretty quick has been punted around the NFL more like castle sucks I agree, but I don't think Brady Quincy. I'll take Kansas City getting the four Who's Tampa to give four to anybody? I mean home plus being a better team one Howard. How do you define better team? Yeah? I just feel like they're better Kansas City just hung in there with Baltimore They lost 9-6. They held Baltimore to three field goals. Yeah, Baltimore no good on the road We said that before Baltimore home this week. So we we differ I will take Kansas City. I'll take down Bay That's all right. Take take yeah, I get it. All right, you Baltimore is Hosting the Dallas Cowboys coming off a bye Dallas is feisty on the road, I think. Tony, uh oh. I feel like Dallas is feisty on the road. If this was a night game, I'd be taking Baltimore, but... This is a one o'clock start. I'm gonna take Dallas getting three and a half. Ugh, you're crazy sauce. Baltimore at home equals win. Three and a half points, done. I'll take it. Yeah, like I said, if it was at night, I'd be all over Baltimore. We're in the all blacks? Yep, I'd be all over that. No, no, no. Baltimore at home plays like a totally different team. They're gonna be fired up from last week about only putting up nine points. Well, here's the thing ever I can't I cannot at this very moment root for anything Baltimore Oh So he's saying is the Yankees thing and I am taking the Cowboys. All right Let's move to four o'clock Let's move all the way to 425 for the big time prime time Matchup, which I wish was the night game, but it isn't should have been Should have been the night game, although the night game is not too shabby. Night game's good. San Francisco is hosting the Giants for the second straight year hosting them in the regular season. This will be the third time they play in two years in San Francisco. San Francisco's giving six and a half. A lot of points to give the Giants. I don't think it matters. I like the Niners. Wow. Yeah, no, I...

33:01 Jake: Watching last week the Giants played out Granton. Played a bad team. Played Cleveland at home. Played a bad team. But just watching how that... The ability for... I don't know what scheme it is, but it's like... Okay, we're just gonna do run, run, run, and Bradshaw ran well last week. That's just anytime they want. Just bling it. And they just can score a touchdown. You understand the Niners like don't get flung on. Yeah, I understand. But I don't know. I feel like this will be rematch. I'm going to take the Giants. I think I'll pick the Giants straight up as well. Wow. But with six. So if I'm going to pick them straight up, then I'm definitely going to pick them with six and a half. OK. Giants have ability to come back on the game as well. They do. They could have a backdoor here, but I'm going to risk it and take San Francisco. We have an off game. Off game. Washington's hosting Minnesota. This is off because of RG 3 clearly I'm gonna just take the better team with no spread. I'm gonna take Minnesota. Yep. Me too. Take Minnesota I don't know what's up with Washington. I feel like you don't know if RG 3 is gonna play or not. I mean if he plays I don't even know what the spread is. I'm not even sure Washington's favorite either way. So I'll take Minnesota Are they like 0 and 9 at home now? Washington? Yeah. Well, they were not even nine weeks into the season. No the last nine. Oh, I don't know when nine They don't win at home. You don't know. All right. I did not know that Sunday night the Houston Texans who we just saw So two back-to-back primetime weeks for Houston coming off a short week at least their home Take on Green Bay and give three and a half. I Just do not know what to think about this Green Bay team They're two and three should be three and two but granted they're two and three two and three They just lost the indie but in like a very very well-orchesteded comeback. They lost to indie after being up 21-3 I mean, Indy was playing for their coach. A lot of emotion there. We talked about that last week and I think we went back and forth on whether it was good or bad. It turned out to be good. They could not stop Reggie Wayne. Yeah. He's on my team. Or Andrew Luck. I think three and a half is too much. So that half has gotten me to take Green Bay. Yeah. I feel like Green Bay is going to be an up and down team. They're going to do games like that, then they're going to come back like they did two weeks ago and beat a good team. Mark Sanchez, again, other than a couple volleyball hits, Mark Sanchez has no Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has much more weapons. I think they're going to get a little bump out of having this younger running back in there. It's going to be kind of like a, hey, let's get some stuff going. I feel like they're gonna be able to do stuff and I again having just watched the Houston Texans We have no weapons and we were able to zero your score one our line is better than Green Bay's I think offensive line. Yeah, I think that's not saying much

36:03 Jake: So yeah, they'll probably get to have a hard time, but Rogers can move around. They're gonna have a hard time with JJ. Wow. Yeah we're in the world there but i don't really Because you never bet against Peyton Manning on Monday night. Is that the rule? That is true. And San Diego is North Turner land. Yeah, no good. I don't believe in San Diego. Yeah, the Saints are no good. No, sorry. They lost the Saints. And the Saints are no good. San Diego is, I mean, North Turner. They're just no good. They're no good. And they've got some of their players back. They seem to be, but I just don't believe in Phillip Rivers. I just think there's something mentally wrong with him. Yeah, there's no good. He's not going to space. Justin: He looks like a double child. Jake: So you think about that quarterback class from that draft and Phil Rivers was in the draft class with Eli and Rolfus Berger. Both of whom? Not Rodgers. Cheers. No, Rodgers with Alex Smith. Okay. But Eli and Rolfus...Rolfusberger both have two Super Bowl wins and Rolfusberger's been to a third. Yep. And Rivers struggles mightily. I think he's like won one game in the playoffs. I think they went to the AFC Championship game one year. and lost to New England. Yes, that's right. And he was playing on like a broken ankle or something. That's right. Him and the Thompson was like holding a broken knee. Yeah, they were like playing with crutches on the field. Which was very commendable. But still, there's something, I don't know, I don't believe in Norv as a head coach. I would love Norv as my offensive coordinator. I'll take him in a heartbeat. You know what? If the Jets keep going down this path, can we hire like, Herm Edwards back to be the head coach, and just put Norv as the offensive coordinator, Rex as the defensive coordinator, and give Herm like a special coach to manage timeouts? And that's that. He just motivates? Motivates and lets one guy coach offense, and lets the other guy coach defense, and that's that. That just not that I want Rex not to be the head coach. I'm just saying that would be really great Yeah, Rex's defense is great this year. That's not his defense. He's a head coach No, it's his defense. He's my patents defense Alright, so my patent can get credit. He can also get shit. That's true. Let's get to some pics let's do some AFC thrown picks and How do we do last week shitty shitty, huh? shitty We both picked Miami to lose. They won.

39:00 Jake: We both picked Denver to lose. We both got that. We got that. I think, yep. I thought they were going to get destroyed more. You were much closer. It was 3121. You picked 3127. I had 3127. We both actually picked the Miami score correctly. I just picked the wrong team to have the wrong score I had 1713 your better pick was the Buffalo San Francisco pick where you picked 7 to 31 and it was 345 that's pretty good like if you picked a crushing and it happened it was even worse crushing right And then of course you picked against the Jets for the second week in a row, but you should take no pride in being right. I don't take any prizes. Because you were wrong about the score. I was just generally correct. And I was more correct about the score. I was closer. I picked 21-22, it was 23-17. So whatever you say. Let's go, let's make some picks. We got Miami at the Rams. Is that correct? Did I get that right? I don't know, you better have gotten it right. No, it's in Miami, I'm sorry. You've got no other frickin job but to do this. You know what, I got that wrong. Seattle at Seattle? No, no, no one's at Seattle. But St. Louis is at Miami. Alright. So I got that wrong. I have to actually switch this whole thing up. Oh yeah, well now you gotta switch the scores. Alright, so I like Miami to win this game in a close one. A real close one. 17-16. Real close, neither of these offenses will blow you off the field. They both have pretty good defenses. They both have halfway decent running games. Both quarterbacks are no good. I mean Bradford is... I was thinking about this the other day. Because we're playing Andrew Luck. And he was the number one overall draft pick this... Most recent draft that's correct and in the last three drafts the number one overall pick has been a quarterback I was like who would I want? and Bradford Bradford was three years ago Cam Newton was last year and luck was this this most recent one right now I was like well, I clearly wouldn't want Bradford. No, that's like he's the worst and I was like mutant or luck It's like you know what? I've seen luck play five, four games. Four games, I think. There it is. Take luck, wouldn't you? Take luck, yeah. No doubt about it. His demeanor. At the end of last year, if I had said Cam Newton to luck, you probably would have said Cam Newton. I probably would have said luck. No, you said Cam Newton. No, I would have said luck. And now it just reaffirms it. He is you just see it his demeanor his head on his shoulder you watch Cam Newton play, and he's just a fucking loser Wow loser. He's just he's a fantasy player. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm not a big believer in Cam Newton I'll tell you that much. I mean he's a win. He won in college. Yeah But he's sort of T. Bo. He has a really he also won in the pros too, but who T. Bo Yeah, so did can you is won a couple games in the pros for I've you've all won a playoff game in the pros Newton

42:01 Jake: hasn't sniffed Even being close to a play. I'm not going there not this year So I've got I've got Miami beating st. Louis 1716 mostly on the strength of defense I think it'll be more defensive, but I think Miami, what I'm seeing in Miami, and I watch them sort of out of the corner of my eye, or last week I actually watched them straight up. You know, they seem to master this sort of like, we can just whip it down the field. Like, there's this thing in the NFL now where if you just can get the timing right, if you whip it down the field and hit around the quarterback, you're gonna get a pick, You're gonna get an intercept. You're gonna get an interception You're going to get a touchdown or you're going to pass interference. And it's like, no, it was passing. It's one of three. So a touchdown. So if you're if you're two thirds going to get either a touchdown or a or a pass interference, you may as well do it. They'll be able just to wing it. And they've got they've got they have a weapon in heartline who can go down. Best is not a huge weapon. They just possession receiver. They seem to be able to do it. For Sato is not terrible. They have a couple of guys who play in weird spots. Like what's that? the that. Fullback slash tight end guy that they have clay Lane something lane. No, that's the fullback. Okay, like clay something clay I think yeah and and Reggie Bush is dynamic Yeah, Reggie Bush is a guy who still even injured and there's you know, he's his his production is full off I'm a Reggie Bush owner. So I've been watching him But he still can hit a hole and bounce out and go, you know hit the end zone and you know, what's really funny You're just going Going back to the draft again, that draft class when Reggie Bush was drafted, you know, for a while, like everyone went that draft. Mario Williams went number one and everyone's like, how do you not pick Reggie Bush? Because he was insanely good in college. Like, insanely, as good as you've seen him play. It's one of the few times I've ever gone and watched a college game. I watch college, college for losers. But anyway, I watched the college game. Just pissed a few people. Yeah, whatever. At just Jet Kingdom. Um, so I went, I watched it because people were like, you have to watch this player play, you have to see what he can do. He's averaging, I think it was like 10 yards per touch. He was insanely good in college. He is literally, it's like taking a NFL player and putting them with a bunch of varsity guys. It was. So I watched either a game or a game and a half or something and it was. It was just stunning to watch him just explode. Well, he just ran around people. He was faster and better than everybody. The highlight rule of him jumping over people. And it was like, it was him. It was it was Mario Williams Reggie Bush and Vince young and it was like, how do you not pick? Reggie Bush and then it was for four or five years there. It was like the Texans made the right move They picked Mario Williams. He's solid You asked me now I think Reggie Bush is the best of Clearly Vince young is nowhere in the conversation. Well, he's nowhere in the NFL Think Reggie Bush is more impactful than Mario Williams

45:00 Jake: If well does take Mario Williams, but just a lot of last year Yeah, and Houston was still the number one defense in the league then they let him go without a question, right? And now he's on one of the worst defenses in the league touted as like us like a savior for that defense and it's and it's Awful, I'm more thinking like if Mario Williams were still on the Texans healthy this year with Watt on the other side I feel like his sack numbers would be fine. But those are just sack numbers. I've read and heard he's a sack-er. He's not a disruptive player. Like JJ Watt's a disrupter. Right? He might not, even though he does, get a sack. He will pressure the shit out of you on almost every play. He will knock three balls down in the middle of the game. Like Clay Matthews type of thing. Yeah. Mario Williams is a Sacker. He'll get his sacks. He's not JPP making three tackles behind the line of scrimmage Also getting his sack and a general nuisance all over the field, right? He's a Sacker like he made his money on just raw statistics. Well, it's a lot of money then. A lot of money. Anyway, speaking of him, let's move to Buffalo So Buffalo, oh by the way, the St. Louis, Miami line, just cause we're gonna go back, the Miami's home, and they're giving three and a half. So I'm actually picking St. Louis in the picks. Oh really? Yeah, I think I'm picking Miami. I think the line at three and a half is just too high. I feel like they're gonna win by one. I feel like Mario's gonna win by more than Mario. You have him 2310, so. All right, Buffalo is going to Arizona. And is that right? I feel like that's wrong too. Because this is a one o'clock game, why would it be? Why would it be in Arizona? It's Arizona. it. at Arizona, but it's four o'clock. Okay, it's fine. I got that right. Okay, so once in a while. So in this game, let's just give the spread here. Arizona is favored by five. And I'm taking Arizona in the pick-em, just so everyone's aware, because my final score is 24-13. I just feel like Arizona's defense is really good and Buffalo's defense is really really bad bad enough that Arizona could put up 24 against him. Yeah, I feel like this is a this is a big if you're a Larry Fitz owner I'm not talking about fancy now But if you think this is a game you're gonna make your money like he's gonna he's gonna show up in this game because I Feel like they're at home Buffalo's coming all the way across they're coming off a loss right? I feel like this is a game that they're just they they're gonna fling it and fling it hard and it's gonna it's gonna work out We have similar scores 1734 Arizona's I'm clearly picking Arizona to cover the five point, right? All right So then we have New England in Seattle tough place to play and New England's favored in Seattle by three and a half

48:01 Jake: I'm still picking New England and I think while they won't get into their 30s like they like I normally pick them to get into they'll get into the high 20s Think they're gonna get Aaron Hernandez back. She'll give Tom Brady a full Full don't know if he's gonna come all the way back like he's supposed to be back Okay, he practiced last week and he's full practice this week. So I feel like he'll be back full Oh, would you play him in fantasy? If they say he's playing, yeah. It'll be a, you know, you'll know Sunday because New England doesn't really tell you. I don't know if I would point him anyway. A, he's coming off an injury. B, they have other tight end weapons. And C, they're in Seattle, up against Seattle, that's Seattle D. I'm not sure I have. I still think they're scoring enough points. They're whipping the ball around. With Hernandez? Alright. So... I mean they run that offense where they don't switch the personnel like I was talking about before. It's very hard to stop. Even in Seattle, even with the noise, I think they still get it done. 27-13 New England. I think New England's ready to roll here. They're going to go on a 6 or 7 game winning streak type of thing. So you literally will be sitting on this podcast next week talking about how you think the Patriots are going to beat the Jets? There I picked early in this You're going back to that, but we've already said we're not doing that. You gotta stop this. No, I'm going to be right. I want to be right. I want to be right about my before the year prediction because we'll be 11 and five. Unlike you at us, 10 and six. Okay. I'd rather be 10 and six. I'd rather be 11 and five. You think we're going to get to 11 and five now? They I'll take New England. I think it'll be I say my score 27 13. I'm going 27 20 New England similar scores. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna get a high scoring game. That's a pretty high scoring game No, I could no nice game 47 pretty high school 27 47 27 20 is a high. Oh, no, I'm not because I think that's 27 10 27 and then Russ and then Wilson like scoring. I don't know in the last minute throws a Something he's done that like twice now. Yeah, I can see it twice. Belichick's gonna eat him up All right, and then on to the game of The year. Oh my god. Are you gonna actually pick the Jets this week on the Jet Kingdom podcast? I certainly am Alright well first give me your keys to the castle talk about the game a little I Feel like my balls to the castle is the same every week, and we keep not hoping we need these But they are the keys and we keep not doing what I say and then we lose so since it's been about 50 minutes since we started this podcast so hill Steven Hillsville is practicing Keller is practicing Mangle's gonna give it a shot. So at the very least we get back two weapons You're not a big Stephen Hill fan, but fuck no, but compared him to everybody else's out there He still is a thread. You don't have to put chroma rd in to go deep, right?

51:04 Jake: We've done twice. Yeah Yeah, so I'm excited that we're getting at least a couple of the guys back. Of course, we're now missing other guys. It's like, you know, Kendra Galas and Eric Smith and all these others. But I'm still surprised that the production of Sean Green and the not willing to change. production? No, it's production. It's just a lack of productivity. Yes, but it's production. It's his production. It's just bad production. And our lack of just wanting to switch things up a little bit more. Just sit him down or call him the second or whatever. Give him a little kick in the ass. Like one of those, like what they did to Ryan Matthews out in San Diego. They, you know what? They barely rushed them off. You're number two. They Barely even I mean he only had eight carries That's not starting running back Quantity of carries most eight carries them all up. They're not starting running back. Oh, yeah, eight Powell had four four 16 not a tebow. That's 21. It's not no It's not if you play that numbers game that we were playing Yeah, remember we were playing that game one is 50 one is absolutely is an absolute victory well, we had 23 rushing attempts and 14 pass completions So you do the math 23 that's 37. That's nowhere close to 51. Nope now used to have 49 Oh, so they didn't have the 50 get to one but they they were 12 ahead of us which basically is like getting no No, no, all right. Well, that's good good that you can win without the really getting to 51 Oh, I looked at the night. I know the way if we caught that ball You know anyway if we had caught what ball? The ball the ball the on the final drive if he had caught that ball then we would glared at the 40 yard line Still needing a touch Alright so your keys the castle for this game Oh, I can't say it enough when in the trenches the line of Scrimmage, let's talk about the line of screwing with the bonnet. We have Andrew luck So I'm happy to go up against a rookie quarterback. I don't care how good you are. I'm always happy because I feel like what Rex Ryan can't do in terms of bringing the pressure, I feel like Rex Ryan can do in confusion. And I like that they're doing a lot of motion and a lot of confusion to quarterbacks. I feel like that's a staple of his that's very good, very confusing looks. I don't think he's seen enough. Where Tom Brady looks at it goes, oh yeah, that's the Rex Ryan double cross under cross. And then he gets picked to the part. I feel like Angie Walk's gonna look at this and go, uh, I don't know. And I feel like that's gonna, that's gonna help. I feel like there could be a couple turnovers more than a couple of turnovers. I don't feel like she's that help. Like here's, here's why I disagree with that statement. Because it did not confuse Ryan Tannehill. And... Andrew luck is way smarter and better than Ryan Tennille and has now played in a few more games. That was week two

54:02 Jake: Yeah, I still think that there's more tape on the Jets than there was in week two and I feel like luck is a Little different. All right better than Tannell again Linus scrimmage. They've changed to a 3-4. They don't That you know Mathis and Freene are no longer down linemen defensive ends one of them's playing linebacker They're both playing the outside linebacker or whatever Control The line of scrimmage we should be able to run on the Colts and the Colts should not be able to run on us And if we solve that problem where we can run and they can't, we should win the game. That's it. It's very simple. Just win at the line of scrimmage. I was winning 2313. My key to the castle. You hear that? Douchebag, I was winning. 2313, good. Pick the Jets once in every four games. I will pick the Jets when I think they're gonna win. No. I'm a Jets fan. I pick the Jets to win every week. It's the difference of being a broadcaster and having all these biases with non-basters and... I'm actually calling this game so I can't hear you. Yeah, I'm the podcaster. I just, I'm a fan of my team. I never pick them to lose. I never pick against them. Yeah, I'm more in the... Would I really want to happen? Well first of all, I want to start and end with the same amount of players, like same amount of non-injured players. That would just be nice. So the same players that start the game are the same players that end the game and not going off on cards. I'm so sick of people being carded off left and right. That would just be my first. Actually my gut feel is, while I think my score, I have this as a closer, I have this as a close. I have us winning 20 to 17. I think it's gonna be close. I feel like this is a game that if we could play the Jets game we've wanted to play for the last four or five weeks, right, this being the sixth week. Like we could play the game that we want to play, which is we come out, I almost sound like Herm Edwards. That's what we're going to talk about in a couple of slides. We run the ball effectively. Again, it's only because of our opponents, not because we're actually good at this. I feel like it's gonna be fake because we'll come out. I think they'll use the T-bow and I think it'll be effective. And people will be like, look, it's effective. I think we'll run the ball and I think they'll be like, oh, look, it's effective. I think Sanchez will be able to throw the ball. And I think it'll be, look, it'll be effective. And it'll be just cowards back and we'll have some of the weapons back. I don't think it actually means anything like up against real opponents. I mean, I'm sorry, I mean, I think Colts beat. you know, the Packers last week, but Packers are kind of going up and down. Um, my key is really just injuries. I know something you can't make a key to your... but that's it. I'm so sick of seeing play, and I'll actually be at the game. Unlike you, I'll be at some fucking wedding, like a non-Jets fan you are. But anyway, but I will be at the game. I'm saying, picking it jets 2017. Let's go jets. That's what I'm saying. All right, well that wraps us up for this week. Anything else you want to do? Do we get anything on Twitter or Facebook or anything? I know we got something from Fake X Ryan asking us

57:01 Jake: for the FU and we kind of won. We gave a reverse one. I gave a reverse one because I feel like, you know, that was actually worth it. Yeah, I got nothing else for you, man. Yeah, all right. Well, let's wrap it up. It's almost over an hour now for a podcast, which is our, not even a time limit. We'll see you next week. Again, if there's a win, we'll try to sneak one in on Monday and talk about it. If not, we'll see you at the end of next week. Follow us on Twitter at Twitter.com slash JetKingdom, Twitter.com slash Just JetKingdom. We're also on the Facebook, facebook.com, facebook.com slash jet kingdom. We're on Google+, we're on all those places. Subscribe to the podcast, Een iTunes, get it weekly, and we'll be here next week with whatever happens, happens. I'm hoping for a win. Let's get three and three. Let's get back to, you know, 500 here. Let's get ready for that opponent the next week. Hopefully the jets aren't looking ahead. Till then... As always, Go Jets! you