No TD for You
August 27, 2012 · 38:28 · Now with two microphones. We talk about the preseason, Mark Sanchez, and set up the Jet Kingdom Pick'em.
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Opening
Onan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women.
Transcript
Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=0 @ 25.0s → Jake; other-primary cluster=1 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Jason-ref Jake cluster 0 sim=0.80.
00:09 Jake: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Get away! 3, 2, 1, go! Go! Go! Go! Welcome to the Jet Kingdom Podcast. The longest running... New York desk podcast ever. My name is Jake and joining me looking befuddled across his normal befuddledness. You are fucking me up today, man. Yeah. His normal befuddledness across the, uh, across the digital aisle. Oh, remember when we used to say the digital aisle? That's when it was a digital aisle. Now it's not digital out at all. Now we just stare each other across the table. Justin: Old schoolers. Jake: Well, now we got these two mics. By the way, we haven't mentioned it on this podcast. We're beginning to sound like other people, but we're now using two mics. We dual miking. So we talked about the snowball. We now have the two snowballs. It's like dueling banjos. It is. It's like Justin: Now I can be a real broadcaster. Yeah, and have my own microphone that I can lean into. You have your own microphone. Jake: Alrighty, well, let's get into it. We got some preseason action both forward-looking and reverse-looking. We have, we'll talk about that. We're gonna talk about a little bit about the JKFL, the Jet Kingdom Fantasy League. We'll talk about the Jet Kingdom Pick'em, and then we'll take, at the end we'll do, we have some tweets and we have some questions from Facebook. So let's get into the dealio. with the game that was last night, you and I went? We did. First game, I wasn't able to go to the Giants game because of a wedding. And you were the Yankees game. Justin: That was the Yankees Red Sox game. Jake: So this was our first visit back to the motherland. It was fun. Yeah, it was. I mean, we went, we did the thing that we never do, was just to drive in and literally go to the game. Yeah, we drove there, we had a beer, and then we went in. Because it's preseason, like. Could have tailgated, but we didn't have the time we have something I had a fantasy draft that you're here forever Justin: You had your third fantasy draft the weekend was official fantasy draft weekend this past weekend. I used to have one more. Yeah That's so pathetic as my life is pathetic. That is that is for that. I mean, I'm in three so I guess I can't really whatever We split this next one We're teammates. Yeah, well we're head to head in two and we're teammates on those teammates, which is good that this one's last Yes, it's true strategies. Yeah, whatever and it's also Jake: I'm just saying the two that we waited for the way that we one of them you yeah, it's one of them I think you were just full. I don't know what happened. You were gonna talk about that in a second Justin: Let's talk about Kingdom one. You didn't like my picks No, the other one. Oh, I'm gonna fuck you up in that other one. You were so dead in that other one. I can't wait to fuck you up. You've got no one who can actually play. I'm not playing for week one. Jake: You're not gonna win week one. I don't wanna win week one.
03:00 Jake: I don't wanna win week one. Alright, alright, alright. I'm gonna be last. I want the first waver pick. Preseason. Panthers. Yeah. Jax. Yup. Oh my god, so last week's episode was named panic button this week's episode is Justin: No TD for you no TD for you Jake: So that's three games in a row with no touchdowns. We saw in person. So no watching on TV I wish I would have t-voted so I could watch it Justin: I can watch again because I have I have you keep making I want to watch it because I want to see what it Looked like on television. I want I want to watch it Full though because I want to hear the commentating as it's going on. They have the full version Yeah, I want to watch that because that's commercials because I watched it and I know what I saw all right What'd you see I actually saw a decent team. I saw he saw the Panthers play No, oh, you know I actually saw a competent team in the New York Jets. I saw what I believe, I still believe, is a number one defense. Yeah. Because they didn't give up shit. Right. Okay, they really did. To that offense, I would say. That could be a very dangerous offense. Well, here's the thing. That is a good offense, and the first defense really gave up. a field goal because that touchdown that they gave up was off of a complete and utter mishap where again what happened to them last week, they give the ball up and the other team has the ball on their 20. So I don't really put that touchdown on the defense. That's an unfair thing to do. I thought our defense played great, held Cam Newton in check. I know they didn't have Steve Smith, but you know we didn't have you know, Sione Puah, and we shut their running game down. We're missing some guys here. And I thought our defense looked really, really like our defense is ready to come out of the gate flying. With that said, our offense... Being there in person... I hope it didn't come off on TV the way that it looked in person. In person, the offense actually looked... Halfway decent other than three plays they they had so first off Sanchez looked good. Yeah, he looked in control. He looked smart There were plays that like we were pointing out like oh that was a smart play like you like where in the past He might have gotten a penalty for like something stupid He ran out of the huddle cuz 12 men were in the huddle he realized it He was like running it you're like really running up the field. He's like smart turn off He was totally in control. He threw one touchdown pass that went through Stephen Hill's hands. Or like over his head but should have been caught. He threw one ball off San Antonio Holmes face mask. Right in his face. Perfectly timed throw. Holmes just... you know, not in rhythm yet. And he threw his interception off of Stephen Hill's shoulder pad, which to me looked like a perfect throw that just hit him right in the chest, bounced up, and got picked. And I don't know what his final numbers are. I think they were like 11 of 18,
06:04 Justin: if I remember correctly. 11, 18, 123, and a pick. So you take 11 of 18, and you make that 14 of 18. For 128, you add another 30, 40 yards, you make that 160, and you give them a touchdown instead of a pick, and all of a sudden, you're like, oh, he had a pretty decent game. And the Jets actually looked halfway decent and competent and like move the ball down the field. But instead, hard luck dropping the end zone, home's off the helmet, hill off the chest. and it goes from a halfway decent showing on offense to another scoreless bullshit game and then t-bow comes in and this is the first time I've experienced it and I hated it I'm sitting there and everyone's like doing the t-bow chants like t-bow t-bow t-bow like Like he's gonna do something. Yeah, but he does exactly what we thought he's gonna do. He comes in, everyone went insane I think you overbought. When he had that little scramble where he People going nuts. He almost throws one pick. He throws another pick. He's awful. He's god-awful. Four for 14, 55 yards and a pick He ran or 45 yards. Yeah, he's if on five carries anyone out there Who wants him as the starting quarterback you are out of your fucking mind Wow You're really out of your gourd. Well alright, so as we are you done with your rant? Jake: I guess as we discussed I still think and I'm still gonna say it until I'm proven wrong Doesn't happen. Maybe in football it does. I still think that there's a... We haven't seen what they're going to do. Like, in that they haven't shown the package. Unless it just doesn't exist. Okay, but I doubt that. Justin: You and I... That would better exist, because that's not a... I'd rather not have him as our backup quarterback. Jake: Right, if you're not going to have a package with him, then there's no point. But you and I sat there, there was two or three plays where I said, that's the play that if T-Bow was in, A, it would have worked. and B, we could have done something. Let's be clear, T-Bose, a force, his running was better than anybody else on the team. Five for 45. Yeah, I mean, but they're scrambles. They're not designed. But when they are designed, he'll get that. No, that's not true. I honestly think he'll get that. No, I think he'll- Scrambles is where you get your yards. The whole piece of his offense is going to be about deception. and it's going to be about not knowing whether he's going to do. And I can't wait to see it. We're not going to see it until regular season, if we see it for a couple games. That's one thing. Two, don't care about the touchdowns. I just care that they move the ball, that the defense plays well, and that they move the ball down the field. Stephen Hill's not going to drop every ball in the season, I don't think. I don't know. Santoni Holmes looks rusty, because he is.
09:00 Jake: still don't have what's his face. I think more worrisome is what happened during the game, which is we lost Dustin Keller for an injury. I was trying to look for an update. I don't have an update, but you can go find your update, whatever. And Baker. Well, Baker, interesting. And I was just about to go and say, because just as this came out, I was looking at the news and we waved some people and cut some people. We were looking at the battle of the kicker battle. Justin: Guess who got guess who got released Oh Brown must have gotten released. He missed the field goal Yeah, Brown got released. So as we were saying this is a big battle there last night. Yeah, well, he missed the field goal We said this is their battle but he missed that. Yeah, he missed That was it. We said your cut we looked at each other and said he's cut. Yeah, that's it. Don't miss the field goal Jake: Yeah Good news is I thought that uh, Austin Howard He played great offensive line. No way I The only time I want to hear his name is never I don't want if I never hear his name I don't want to hear it talked about I just want it just he needs exist But that that was good for me You know that it just looks very vanilla and as a and I want to go see a full game I thought it was good to see as much. I thought it was a little wimpy that they didn't do the one minute, the minute 14 second drill. Yeah, what is that? Justin: Practice that. I think they just don't want to hurt anybody. I looked at you and I said, you were like, oh, they get the ball to start the second half. Right. And I looked at you and I said, yeah, that's when the Pats put up 14 on you. Right. Instead, what do we do? nothing but it's preseason they would never do that in regular season I don't know no minute 14 they go for it Rex even said if we would have gotten a first down on that second down play we would have kept going so it was clear that like I said the the Pats they put 14 up on you in that situation they knock you down they put up seven at the end of the half and then they come right out and they put seven more fucked right because then you're playing catch up the whole game um other notes well it's clear to me belal Powell's the number two running back yeah he is not joe mcknight joe mcknight's kick returner yep that's that yep um i thought again i thought sanchez played a good game yeah look good to me much better than i don't think they ever threw towards uh towards uh read this at all no I don't think the Panthers even looked that way and I thought that uh and I like the our rookie slash second year, I still don't even think we've seen the best of the defense yet either because again Puah hasn't played right Ellis has filled in very nicely for me It was out videos been out so we haven't been able to like rotate guys like we know it's a running situation So we're gonna have Puah and DeVito in there as opposed to you know Maybe having you know someone else slide into the middle and and kopals and maven and flying around in certain situations
12:00 Justin: I don't think you're my Bell played So yeah, I don't I didn't see that and Landrieu is all over the fields. I mean we were there We saw he's everywhere and that one like Aaron pass. He almost caught it like he went. He's everywhere Jake: Yeah, he's all over the field so as long as he could stay healthy He looks like he's got the system down defense not worried about it's the offense. I'm not worried about no TD's Only regular season although I wasn't a period of time not last year, but like two years ago Look, we hadn't had a nose last year We hadn't we couldn't he hadn't scored in the first quarter in like 10 games. It was in into last year Justin: Yeah, hadn't scored a touchdown in the first quarter or on our first possession first possessions like that Jake: So let's let's let's dust something off. Let's do some nights and fools Well we lost, so we have to do fools, don't we? Yeah, who you got? Who you got for me? Oh, fools, last night. Justin: Remember we do, we also do a play. I'm just gonna pick Tim Tebow. Fool? I'm just gonna make him my fool every time. No. Yeah. Unless he does something good. Tim Tebow's my fool. Alright. He's shit. It bothers me. But he's shit as a quarterback. They're not gonna use him as a quarterback. Well, it bothers me that I'm sitting there and there's... Still about 25 30 thousand assholes sitting around Chanting for this guy going crazy. Why can't you be excited about a player like why that's okay. I'm excited about the player Jake: I'm not excited about a bad plan. Oh them their fans us fans not us broadcasters Justin: No, why is what Mark Sanchez makes the nice 25 yard? No, it's not like that. Sure sure sure. No, they will he goes. I've never heard that they go out there even heard it he T-bow he ran for six yards. Do you bow easier to do that with if Sanchez? Jake: No, it was sand bow. They'd be a good chance. Oh, yeah, says it's gonna cross very well. So Annoying great, but you know what these fans are fans of that player fine I don't think he's gonna be the quarterback to win us a game But I like that he can play on the field and maybe do something anyway. He's my fool Justin: You look like shit to me last. Yeah, I kind of Jake: I was just upset about that two minute drill. I'm like, I'm gonna make Sperano. I'm gonna make you my fool. Why is that on him? Because he should have done it. Justin: You think it was- That's not him. You think it was- You think the offensive coordinator can overrule a head coach? Well, you don't know what his advice was. His advice might have been, don't do it. No, that was Rex's call. Jake: Alright, well Rex, don't do that. Why don't you pick a player and stop being a bitch? Uhhhhhh... Oh, well, Steven Hill, easily. Yeah. Steven Hill. Why don't you catch some passes? Catch some fucking passes. Justin: I mean, as it is, he had, I think, five? Right. He had five? He's definitely our leading receiver, I know that. Five for sixty-eight. You should have had a touchdown, you should have had an 100 yard game. Jake: But this is the thing, I don't, I'm not worried, again, maybe I'm just Pollyanna here. I don't worry about it because he's a rook. He's a rookie, he's gonna have some really fucking bad things. But I think he's got speed, he's got talent. Justin: He definitely had the ability to get open. He can get open.
15:00 Jake: So it's great. Just work on the hands, buddy. And we'll get there. Justin: A receiver, work on your hands. Jake: A people... Justin: A quarterback, work on your arms. That's exactly right. Jake: That's what we have. Justin: We have a quarterback we can't throw, we have a receiver we can't get. That's awesome. Jake: Alright, so let's move on. Anything you're thinking about you want to watch for this new game coming up? The uh... Nope. You don't care? The game for yeah, so no t-bow no Sanchez Justin: I would really prefer a t-bow play a few series in this game right as a quarterback I will be at the offense Jake: I will be looking I will be on vacation away, but I'll be watching I hope you can watch I think where I'm going I can be a watch Justin: But um I'm hoping I can get a nice. I listen moving forward see a little Macaroy We haven't seen any other quarterback. It's just been these two guys. I prefer to see I would like to see Teemo get, like, to start the game. Like, you know, play a few series. He needs to be, right, because if he is our true backup, which I don't think he is. Jake: I think if Santa just goes down, McElroy goes in. Justin: I feel like that's actually the right call. It's probably what'll happen. Which is crazy because he hasn't seen a snap. Whatever. He's too busy blowing up the, blowing up the newspapers. It's a little weird. Most other teams won't take their second quarterback and say, oh, he can't play either. Because he's like our second running back. Jake: Someone asked today, like, well, who's going to run the ball? I'm like, TiVo's going to run the ball. Watch him run the ball. We have three running, we have four running backs. And TiVo's number two. Justin: Little weird. TiVo's number two. Anything else I'm looking for? Not really. Don't know maybe some balal pal Joe McKnight stuff. Yeah, who you know who looks better. I'm sure they're both play a little bit On defense it'd be interesting to see the two rookie safeties. I'm sure they're both play a lot yeah, Bush and Allen and I I imagine he's gonna make Copples play in this game because when he yes Because he threw a little hissy about having a go back out there in the in the in the third or fourth quarter because all the starters on defense came out yeah and Rex said you got it you know he kept him in and he's like you're a rookie dude you know you don't you know yeah you need to go play more not less like and oh you're winded Well, I want to see what you... what if you... Do you think the Patriots are gonna let you come out in the third quarter? Yeah, no. You gotta play, my friend. So I'd like to see him play and maybe dominate a little bit against some backups and then sit for the rest of the game. Jake: So as a... so you're not gonna see one of your starting quarterbacks and one of your fans, Michael Vick. But I would you as an Eagles as an Eagles coach so you have probably the most propensity to get hurt quarterback who's already been hurt twice in the preseason. Right. So now you're going to go take a game. You're going to throw out the backup. Right. And he's gonna sit there and take hits the entire.
18:00 Jake: thing. I can't say back up against a second line. Like don't you think that's dangerous? What do you think third out there? Well, that is the Eagles third. The Eagles backup is injured. Justin: So they're gonna throw the third out there. Well, they're that that is who has been playing. So Kafka is a Kafka Kafka is not been playing. He is their backup. So now they're gonna throw the Jake: third out foils guy or something like that happens if that guy gets hurt. So then your third string gets hurt. Justin: then you don't have a backup to your most guys have four most teams carry four yeah and Vince Young just got cut by the Bills so maybe they'll just pick him back up maybe oh then we put the dream team back together put the dream team Jake: back all right let's get to the we're gonna do jet kingdom fantasy week so as you guys know last year we tried to introduce a little bit of fantasy into our indoor podcast here Not like we didn't, we wanted to make it like about Jets, but we don't, because we don't want to talk about everybody. Him and I, Jess and I are clearly in a lot of fantasy leagues. Last year was my first year in a bunch of leagues. But so, but we think let's do something that's jet related, because the Jet Kingdom podcast, fine. So this year we said, let's create a fantasy league that is for Jet Kingdom fans, fans of the podcast, great. There's 10 of them, they're all or eight other fans. And we had our draft on Sunday and the rule is, I'm gonna say this every week just so you get this because it's what's gonna make this week kind of fun for Jet fans, is that the rule is that you have to have a starting jet on your active roster at all times, except for the bi-week. So this made the draft kind of fun because- It made the draft a lot of fun. Right. Justin: Because any time the Jets defense gets drafted in the first round before Calvin Johnson. You know you got a fun league going on. So it's like... I mean this is how fucked up this is. Jets defense goes seventh overall. And NYC green-blooded, whoever that is, I don't know the names of the actual people, we'll just call them by their team names. NYC green-blooded. It's Jesse. Fuck you man, cause I was picking them in the second round and this guy picks them in the first round. And then Sean Green goes 8th overall. And then you have Calvin Johnson right after. It's so funny to just see that in a draft. It's like, Jets D, Sean Green, Calvin Johnson. Yep. Oh, okay. No, so pick third the second round Matt forte Dustin Keller Larry Fitzgerald, San Antonio Holmes Roddy White I thought I'd fuck around in my first two round picks were both Patriots. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was good I picked Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski. So some interesting ones Jake: Yeah, I started to wait I said I'm gonna put together a good team before I start to pick I did the same thing So I waited until the fifth round to pick McKnight Yeah, you might be in trouble there. Well, no, because then I took your advice and I just started stockpiling.
21:00 Jake: Because I thought there's one thing, so someone has Sanchez and I assume they're going to start Sanchez because you have to start him if he's your jet. If he's your only jet, you start Sanchez a quarterback. So I'm like, well, if you, in most leagues, let's say you have, let's say you have Adrian Gerhard because you got to have his handcuff. Hand-cuffing is the theory of bringing, getting the player and his backup so the player goes down you have the guy behind him So I was like wait in this league if you have Mark Sanchez you need to need TiVo Because he's the handcuff to Sanchez and you'd be fucked if you don't have the guy So anyway, then I started just picking up jets I'm like I'm gonna pick up every jet with all my roster spots So I ended up with like six of them and they're all trade bait So I'm really training with everybody. I'm two jets. I picked up two jets Justin: Yeah, I think curly in the fourth round. Yep, cuz at that point I start kind of started Panicking a little there is nobody really left. So I went with curly and then I know very late Much later on I ended up picking another jet Patrick Turner in like the 11th round I think you took a jet that Yeah, actually not even on the jet. I was dumb which is an interesting move. I forgot him ignite that was mistake mistake Let's I did pick guys Like it was really just fun to see Like all these jets going like Stephen Hill went in the fourth round. Yeah, Stephen Hill went 31 Mike Wallace went 32 Julio Jones went 33. Stephen Hill better than Mike Wallace and Julio Jones. So anyway. It's funny because that was a run on receivers right from 28 to 33. So that's six straight picks went receivers. Here they go. Greg Jennings. Andre Johnson, Wes Welker, Stephen Hill, Mike Wallace, Julia Jones. That's a funny draft. Jake: So it was fun that way that we did that. Anyway, so you can follow along. It's the Jet Kingdom Fantasy League. It's open, I think. It's private league, but I think you can view it. So I tried to make it so if you want to go look at, see who's who, you can go look at it. Well that's kind of cool. Alright, so I think it's at Jet Kingdom. If you can't find it, it's League 27453. I'll figure out whether you can get in there and I'll put a link somewhere. Yeah, I can put a link somewhere. Justin: On Facebook or something. Jake: Yep, good idea. Also this year we're also doing our same thing we did last year which we're doing the Jet Kingdom Pick'em. It actually already has like 10 people in it. That's it. I joined it the other day. So this is, we do this on Yahoo. It is a pick-em-where-you-pick-every-game-without-the-spread through the entire season. And then we give away a prize at the end. This is a little smack talk, whatever. So there are one... There's nine, it looks like. There's nine in there yet. So if you wanted to join... Some of the same people. Yeah, same people. Some of them, I know there's a couple more coming. Anyway, just for fun, you know, shits and giggles, otherwise called the Jet Kingdom Pick'em, you go to Yahoo Fantasy, you go to the Pick'em, and then you type in, you just need League 32516.
24:02 Jake: League 32516, and the password is podcast. Well, post all that on Facebook. It's all on Facebook, what I'm saying, if you're actually sitting there in front of your computer, go to Yahoo Fantasy Sports, go to the Pick'em, and then 32516. Thanks. podcast is thing and then join up and again we'll talk about that because we make picks every every We make our picks during the podcast and then we go over who did well during the week, right? So always to have fun with us sort of in and out of the actual games And then we have some questions from the Facebook and the Twitter and if we've already answered them we'll skip over them But yeah, all right. We won't we do Facebook first? Justin: Alright, Facebook first. Alright, so you posted, uh, While the Often Struggles, the podcast goes on. We'll be recording podcasts tonight, so any questions? Besides the abysmal offense, if we will have to score a touchdown. So Marcus Netters, the pick wasn't Sanchez' fault. Seriously, when are they gonna have a state? for picks that are the receivers fault. I think he meant stat. I think he did. But he might have auto corrected. So I'll forgive you. That's a good idea. I feel like that thing that ESPN did. It takes it out. I want to say it does. I want to say like QBR. Yeah. I want to say that that thing does situational. Total rating. Whatever it is. It may, it may not. That's a good, that's actually a good idea. Like that pick was not on Sanchez. That ball was right on Stephen Hill's. The problem with stats to make them like conditional stats is very tough. Like how do you have a conditional? The hard part is that people get paid on stats. Right. So that's a pick for Sanchez. that he gets paid to throw touchdowns in yards, not picks, which he gets opposite of paid. Do corners get less money because they pick easy picks versus hard picks? Jake: No, but past defenses, picks, I mean. But a pick, if this is not a true pick anymore, there's like a deflection pick, which is a fucking easy, versus making an awesome move. Justin: To drill, to drill. Anyway. Good point. Not sure how they'd not sure how they'd pull it off But I like I like that you're that you're at least bringing up the fact that wasn't Sanchez's fault Yeah, I feel like I'm the biggest Sanchez apologist Homer no second biggest to you. Yeah. Oh, you're right up there. Yeah, okay Jake: All right. I'm all in but I'm also well here But I have to put on I put on my jet hat and I'm like I'm a fan of the team if at the time that I feel I look at that player and I think you're no longer the player There's someone else who can do your job and get us farther than I'm all for it. Justin: Alright, next is Ashfactory. Do you think we should make an offer for MJD? We discussed this last week. We did. We'll delve into it a little bit more. If we're going to rely on ground and pound, surely we need a back who can make a difference. I like Sean Green, but can we expect him to carry the team on his own? We know MJD can do it and has done it.
27:02 Justin: at least we have a right tackle now, silver lining. Let me start by saying, not sure we have a right tackle now. We just have one that we have one that isn't the guy that we used to have. We don't have the other Shmo. We just have some. And by the way, he played like 10 or 11 plays. Yeah, they did that jumbo package quite a bit. Yep, and it worked. Now, we talked about this a little last week. I personally don't think we should be making any offers for MJD. I think they'd be... Well, no. That's not true. Well, actually incorrect. I said if you could guarantee us two-ball wins, you'd say yes. I'd say I'll give you your first round pick for a Super Bowl, or I'd give you a third or a fourth or something conditional like that. But to me, he's a running back who's... been in the league for a long time he's still very productive if he was to play this year he'd be one of the top five guys but he's now held out he's he's gonna be fresh fresh legs maybe maybe not quite the same though it's funny because you picked him in one of these um and still i i feel as though He's only got two, maybe three years left in him. So, but who cares? Jake: No one's got more than two, three years left in them. I know. Let's just get, I want a guy on the field this year. Next year, I'll worry about next year. So you're going to trade a first round pick for Maurice Jones-Drew. Yeah. Who cares? Justin: You would, I won't. So I would. I will disagree on that. That's the type of player. But not only do you have to trade for him, you have to then sign him. fine well no don't do the fine yeah because you know you know he wants a lot of money he wants a lot of money all right so I'll do you know the jet salary situation how they were like well over the cap and they're projected to be even more over the cap and oh by the way mr. Reavis is gonna want some money next year so we can Trade for MJD and pay him and not get Mr. Reevis on the field for the next 8 to 10 years Or you can have your fucking MJD for this year Yeah, yeah, and think about it That way is less Alright, less like it Cause he's not coming to the Jets and being like Oh no, now my contract situation's all good You know he's gonna- that's not the way it works He's only going somewhere who's gonna pay him Jake: Boosh monkey Justin: Next up Uh, Lee Vincent, fuck you There's my fuck you for the week he goes he says fly Eagles fly. I don't know whatever so we're playing Eagles this week I go fly. It's great. So Lee Vincent you get the fuck you of the week Rick Clemens We need some receiving help. Do you think plaques goes an option to have for the red zone? I hope so. I drafted him yesterday. My only other jet is John Connor for the fantasy league. Well, then Rick, you might be trading with Jake for Scottie McKnight. Jake: Yeah, I got all the players. Justin: So it's kind of funny. Yesterday, we were at the game, and Stephen Hill dropped that touchdown pass, or at least it looked like. I have to see the game in the replay
30:01 Justin: to know if that was a bad throw or if it was catchable. It seemed catchable from where we were sitting. And they don't really show replays of bad plays, so they didn't really show it. And then vision isn't working until the right right so so I said to you well that was a touchdown for plaques Yep, and it was if You could tell me that plaques go burris was not Part of the reason why the team fell apart last year Which I wouldn't even believe if you told me but if you were to tell me that he really wasn't he was a good citizen and that we would only use them when we're inside the 20, I'd say sure, but you can't carry a wide receiver that you're only going to use inside the 20, because those are the guys that you need to play special teams. So like that fifth receiver, because that's what he would essentially be, the fifth receiver or sixth receiver, you don't usually carry six. They need to play special teams in order to kind of make their roster spot worthy or be worthy of that spot. Yep. So I would say I don't think he's an option. Jake: Yeah, I mean I'm unhappy with the way the receiving core has been sort of kept over the years against Always Hindsight is 2020. The rumor on the street today was that the Jets were looking and this is total rumor land Just doing rumor rumor mill the Jets were looking to trade homes to the Raiders For what well it doesn't matter You'd only know that and when it happened why you'd get the thing back saying oh they traded him for a something but if they do that then that's I mean I don't care if he's not the, you know, he's not a, you say he's not a number one, he's still a threat and he's fast and he has good hands and he can catch the ball and he can catch the ball in the end zone and he can make people miss. You get rid of him, I just think you're, at that point I feel like you're just, you're kind of giving up on receiving or you see something so amazing and these young guys that's like, yeah, the guy who drops the balls. All right, folks. Justin: And this other guy and chas they would probably trade him for another like a receiver straight up Because our receiver coach is from Oakland from Oakland, right? That's because she lands who hasn't hit the field yet and there's I mean Oakland has some really young receiving talent That's actually halfway decent. I don't think any of them are quite as good as homes though, but Joseph fucking home you're fucking right in the fucking ass and Sanchez bend over cuz you haven't had the same receiver for three years straight ever right so bend over and take it give give I want to see Jake: homes back the one thing about homes and I know this is it's part of just being a receiver and being a dick but you gotta stop that first down drop ball thing a I really think it's rude to sit in front of the guy who you're about to give the ball to and drop it in front of his face It just seems rude. It's like, oh, you want this ball? Sorry, it's on the ground. That is just a first down.
33:00 Jake: Like, don't celebrate just a first down unless it's the biggest first down ever to happen. Justin: You know when you know that you've gone too far? Because that's the guy that you hate when he's not on your team? Yeah. When you hate him when he's on your team, right? That's when you've gone too far. Jake: Yeah, it's too much. And in preseason, like again, if we're four and whatever. We have one catch for eight yards last night. And you drop the ball on your one, and you do your thing on your one ball. Justin: You did his thing. Jake: Don't do that. Justin: I don't like that thing. That thing also gets you hurt. What? Doing the draw, Paul? Oh yeah. That's the thing that makes the linebacker hit you real hard when you go over the middle. Jake: Hahahaha! Justin: He's like, you do that again, I'm gonna... Do that again, I'm gonna beat your ass. Um, alright, we got one more question from the Twitterverse. Oh, we got another one. Yep. Well, one question. So, this one comes from mormop. Mormops. Mormops. At mormops. Less mops. Mormops. At Jett Kingdom. Any thoughts on how Hayden Smith played? Any chance he makes the final roster? No thoughts because I don't even know if he did play I didn't think he was on the field I'm a stat line. We left with like three minutes to go after T-bow through that pick really alright, let's get out of here I think he was on the field at that time and maybe even at the end because we were down so many tight ends last night Any chance he makes the final roster? No Not in my Estimation, I don't think he'll make the final roster And I actually think he'll be on squad and I don't think anyone will pick him up. So I think that's more than likely what will end up. I think we just got another question. Yeah. Do you want to take it? I'll ask because this is someone we know, isn't it? Isn't this guy in the league too? Eric Nord, I feel like Eric's in the league. He might be. Eric Nord asks... Do you think Green is the weak link on our offense this year? He clearly is not anything special. And with us being such a run heavy offense, shouldn't we be looking for someone at least above average? I don't think he's the weak link in the offense. I think there's nothing core is the weak link. Jake: Yeah, I think the street is the weak link. He's not. Justin: He's not a strong link. No, he's not so what he's not is Matt Forte what he's not is Maurice Jones drew to go back to what we were talking about before What he's not is, you know, Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson. He's not a boy. I asked it, you know, Arian Foster. He's not a number one back you really Want to see him paired with Like he was a Thomas Jones or an LT right where they can play off each other and actually him and Thomas Jones have very similar Styles, but still he's not he was the fat. He was the speedy guy in that one Yeah, Thomas Jones was the big bruiser. They were both kind of bruiser type But what what you really want is what LT brought?
36:16 Justin: not last year but the year before where he actually had some burst left And if you wanted to receive in court this point it's our no Howard proves me wrong Jake: He's still part of and right now our week our week link is our the second and third receivers Justin: They're just don't and they're not proof and the fourth. I mean a lot of teams Will run for receivers out on that field, but I kind of can't Jake: That's T. Bo is one of them. All right, that's it. So we made it through another podcast. We'll be back Next week with another podcast we'll review the next game the upcoming game. We're gonna do our our Season is that next week or is it the following week? It's next week. It's not be next week Oh, yes next week. So next week's a biggie. So just get that get your we're gonna go through. We're gonna go through Justin: Yeah, well, this is a podcast. So you can just do whatever you want, but we're gonna go through the whole schedule Yeah, when glosses. Yes predicting playoffs predicting Super Bowls all sorts of fun shit next week. Jake: And what we predict, we go through every game, we predict the games, like we say, okay, so game one, game two, game three, we picked all the games for the jet schedule. Then we do the AFCE schedule, so like win-loss, then we predict Super Bowl. And we have our first week of pick-em. We do our first week of pick um see how next week's like he's gonna be a long show So remember to go in there jet Kingdom calm follows Twitter comms us just skin jet Kingdom Just checking them Facebook to come slash a kingdom Google plus iTunes and all the rest of it. That's a long show Hopefully we'll I think even what happens is game doesn't matter Cause it's like, if we score 10 touchdowns, it doesn't make me feel any better. No, it makes me feel worse, actually. It doesn't, it's like scrubs playing, whatever. Pee-wee football. Until then, until next week, and as always, go Jets!