Tight Ended

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Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they get a lamentation of their women.

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00:09 Justin: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always that way. Jake: Welcome to the Jack Canine Podcast, the longest running New York guest podcast ever. I'm Jake and joining me for the 185th time is Justin. Justin, how are you doing today? Justin: 185 times. Jake: 185 times you've joined me on this podcast. Justin: Oh man. Jake: I think at 187 you get your... I've been on the podcast for too long, we got to replace you with somebody else. Yeah, okay. All right. We got stuff to talk about, finally. A little bit. And none of it has to do with the Jets. That's not true. So we figured it's been a couple weeks, we haven't been around, we've been doing some stuff, we're coming back, talk about the Jets and what's going on. On the big agenda today, we have news and notes from around the Jets and other places. This is what is. I have my bets that I made with my friend about the Jets versus Dolphins. We'll go over who we think is gonna win those bets. Only for, what do we bet? We bet. What'd you bet? Jelly beans? Jelly beans, that's correct. We have the Jets Mount Rushmore. Yeah. That would be cool to talk about. We can vote together. And then. I've already voted once, but I'll vote again. And then we can talk about the. So, that's it, we'll see you next time. Bye. New England tight end situation. And then the JK Fantasy League is now officially open and ready for submissions. We'll tell you what you need to do and where to send it at the end of the podcast. Let's go, news and notes. What's going on with the Jets? Justin, tell me now. Well, minicamp is over. So they had that. That is a lot of information. They did that. So you're saying they ended minicamp. They ended minicamp. Justin: Okay. No starting quarterback yet. Jake: So it came out today that Nick Mangold, when asked in his thing, who do you think the starting quarterback should be? Or who's behind who? Because again, it's been back and forth. I've heard everybody's sort of half the walk room split. Some people want Sanchez, but he said, he thinks that they want to have the best, the people give them the best chance of winning. And he said that is Marc Sanchez. So Nick Mangold standing up for his guy, Marky Mark. Thoughts? I expect that out of him. I think he said right now. So there was a like a bit of a hedge. Well, because you get if they replace Marc Sanchez, it's like, yeah, you've got to have There's no reason. There's no reason. J.O. Smith's hands up your ass. So you might as well. Justin: There's no reason to. in my opinion not to start Geno Smith

03:00 Justin: in week one Like there's there's just no reason for it. Like there's I just don't I can give you some reasons Jake: I don't really and I don't really care about my reasons. No, I don't actually Justin: I can't I can't see him being you know that much better in week one than Whatever Mark Sanchez is gonna be because they're learning a new offense and he's learning a new league, and that's really hard. Jake: It's true, but here's the reason. The reason is the fan base, the media, the chance of winning, knowing what you, knowing what you, knowing, well, but these are all real reasons. Mark Sanchez is, for all intents and purposes, basically not a jet after this year. Can you see a scenario where he is a jet after this year? You see a likely scenario. Justin: Starts week one, has a decent season, make a playoffs. You can't like get rid of this quarterback if you make a playoffs. Jake: Okay, so how deep do you got to go to keep Sanchez? You just make the playoffs. Have a good season, make the playoffs. Pull the Chad Hennington and throws four picks in playoffs. Chad Hennington? Chad Hennington. With a who? I'm sorry. And then he in the playoffs against the Ravens he threw four picks. Yeah, but then he's a veteran at that point Justin: He was you know in the league for nine years eight years nine years You you don't think the Sanchez is seen as the veteran at this point Well, I'm when you just you're a rookie been in the league for four years. It's not like he's been it's not I don't feel like his development is done yet I know you don't feel that. Again, he's got no one to throw the ball to again, which sucks. I mean, that's not his fault. Right. Jake: So why not give it to the guy who's going to run around in score touchdowns with his feet? Who's that? Ivory? That's Geno Smith. Why is he running quarterback? Because he's black? Put you on the spot. Yeah, no, because he can run that offense. Says who? That's Eliza. They've already been practicing the pistol with him this year with the Jets. Great. Maybe he'll have a little pistol package. Oh. That is the thing that I will, I might not go to a game ever again. I can't say that. But what if it's Brad Smith running the pistol package? If by the way, if they start to do this thing again, like if you're going to give someone the R, just give someone the job. I don't care at this point who has the job. Justin: But you didn't care when Brad Smith was doing it.

06:01 Jake: Because it wasn't a, it wasn't a threat to the starting quarterback. It was just a guy who was not going to start ever. In fact, when people went down, they didn't give a tip. although in one game they actually let him. like run a series, but he wasn't the quarterback. He was a wide receiver, special teams guy. They weren't, so what I don't want is a last year situation where it's now a package for this quarterback. Again, how many packages are, oh, that's the thing. We haven't talked about the big elephant in the room. All right. Justin: I don't think we've talked about, you know who going, you know where. Well, we have. We are talking about the New England tight end situation. So he'll come up in that conversation. That's true. All right. Cause he's a tight end. Jake: All right. So I mean, any, anything that you've read or any takeaways from mini camp, other than the receiver is situation. Justin: There are none that it's terrible. San Antonio is still, you know, he's going to start on the pop list. He wants to come back by training camp. No fun. I don't even know what it is. It's no fun. It doesn't even sound good. Jake: But it doesn't sound sexy. It doesn't sound like... It doesn't even have an acronym. Justin: Yeah. Which I predicted by the way. When you wanted to keep them on your roster I said... Uh, if Holmes isn't back, they're in trouble. Cause why not? I don't know. I don't know why they don't just sign Brailling Edwards back. Jake: Yeah. Brailling Edwards is one the, um, I keep forgetting his name. He must be that good. The guy that Brandon Lloyd. Either one. I'm just saying like and the I I I I'm gonna cut him, just injured. Just injured, bro. Justin: Bone on bone so like five knee surgeries or something after after a motorcycle accident. It's awesome All right. He played for the Pats for one game last year. Yes, because they had a ton of tight ends Yeah, it's his choice. He left like if you're if you can play and the Pats are giving you a job Why not hang around and sit behind? Gronk and Hernandez and who you might get shot in the face ever and that's why you don't my

09:02 Justin: That's why you sit behind them out in front of them, but they but they all right here's that Why not stick around and have a chance to go to Super Bowl? I guess Jake: So you don't see this as a big signing at all. No you see this. What is it? Just a stopgap? Justin: Just like whatever. Whatever they might be cutting. They might be cutting mini camp. Who knows they got a guy to come out and try out. He tried out. He looked better than anything to have in the field. Not hard. Jake: His knees were this far above David Garard's knees. Justin: So it's... It didn't take much for him to look better than anyone else on the field because nobody else on the field's ever done anything. Jake: So there goes your Hayden Smith love. If- If Winslow the second can come- Justin: He's not ready. He's a football player. He's never played football. Oh, how- He's the guy who never played football before. Just gonna come in- I'm hoping but Alright, let's move on Jake: Any other news that you, wanna... Justin: No, I mean it's just receivers and There'll be a nice little battle for safety spot Also, we haven't signed to any of our Top 3 picks yet Still top 3 to go? Yeah, neither of our first rounders Nor has our second rounder who My feel is going to be the hardest one to sign because he He's already on my shit list, this Gino Smith. Gino, because he's a diva. He is. He's a total diva. He needs to drop that immediately. Get rid of Rock Nation. We can't even sign him because he's he's represented by someone who can't represent football players. Jake: Well, there you go. That gives your buddy Sanchez a much better leg up. Justin: I'm telling you, he's going to be like a holdout. He's going to be like. They're gonna be like you were picked in the second round we're paying you second I might be like I was top five pick we're gonna be like no rookie way scale Jake: You don't do that anymore his scale. It's a scale of wages based on where you were picked and well positioned Justin: I you gotta pay me more or guarantee me or no offset language or something That's the big ones and he's and he's gonna he's gonna stick to it Oh John you made your beds now line it Jake: All right Let's talk about something fun. Justin: Can we do the Jets Mount Rushmore? Sure, let's do that. Alright, so for those who aren't in the know, or don't read the internet or football, pro football talk, which is Mike Florio's website, which is now on NBC Sports.com, has been, I mean, they're great. They cover the NFL really, really well. Jake: And I never read the website. I only read their iPad. The iPad because I just, it's literally like. They have an app? They have an app. You go in, you open it up. I could make it my. Justin: It just opens right to their. To their week. Latest news and rumors page or whatever. Jake: Well it's just one per and you just slide between it. Slide them? And it's nice cause it's not, if you read it once a day, there's probably like 10 stories or 15 stories a day. No, they go nuts. They have been like crazy. I understand but it's. It's the stories that they update over and over again, but this I'm saying you just read them through and you get a good sense of like Maybe it's 20 or 30 whatever doesn't doesn't matter anyway Justin: They've been putting together a Mount Rushmore for every NFL team. Yes, so

12:04 Justin: I don't know if you have the link so I'm gonna just shoot it over to you I have it right here. Oh you have the way I don't I mean I'm on the I'm just giving you the direct link to the Jets one okay, so They've been doing a Mount Rushmore for every team where you, the internet reader, podcast listener get to vote on four people to put on the teams Mount Rushmore. And it started off with like It opened up where they were just taking comments like people just give us four names and you give four names, right? I took what everyone said and put 12 finalists together and We now have the the four the finalists for the Jets So I'll read them and then we'll each will vote. Okay. Here are the 12. We got we view bank Mark Gastonow, Larry Grantham, Leon Hess, Winston Hill, Joe Klechko, Mo Lewis, interesting, Curtis Martin, Dom Maynard, Joe Nameth, Dorell Rivas, no, Altoon. Jake: So to me this is like this is three or easy. Yeah three or just so my three, I am maybe we're tight. Weeb, Curtis and Joe. Justin: Yeah, I think those three, you can just lock in their name. If Curtis Martin, we be bank. You don't have to put we be bank in there, but I think you kind of do because he was the coach and they won championship and they've only won one. So right. May as well. Now my favorite jet of all time is on here, but I can't put him on the Mount Rushmore because I don't think he belongs. Jake: So remember, Mount Rushmore for all you listeners, only four phases. There's only four. Right. So you have to vote for four out of these 12. So here's a question. Is anybody that you, I mean, Wingcobet, not there? Not there. Kind of a, you know, a person I consider as part of my own personal, like, you know, guy. To me, if you were going to throw up Mount Rushmore, Dorell Rivas versus Wingcobet, I'd have Wingcobet up there. for. Like he's means more to me than Dorell Rivas at this point. Dorell Rivas in three years staying with the Jets might be different. But right now, Dorell Rivas is out in the box. Justin: Well, Dorell Rivas was the best player at his position for a number of years while playing on the Jets. Wankerbat wasn't. Yeah, I hear you. Still not. I mean, if Wankerbat played now, he'd probably be better than when he played. Because the rules are a lot different now. He wouldn't have been he'd be Wes Walker I mean, maybe that slot guy who would catch 120 balls, right? Well, we wouldn't get crushed over the middle You know, he didn't even get crushed all at all. Alright, but anyway, so we think it's really agree on those three agree and then I mean, my favorite jet of all time is Altun, and it's hard for me to not select him,

15:00 Justin: even though I know he doesn't belong on the Mount Rushmore. So I decided to go with Klecko as my fourth. Because he played... a number of different positions on the defensive line. He was on, you know, the leader of the sack exchange, even though Gaston was the guy who, you know, led the league in sacks and had the record for a while, right? Claco was the one I think you made the pro bowl like two or three different defensive line positions. Yeah. So I think Claco is the guy. He's also still involved with the team. Yes, that matters. So. To me, I mean, I could also see Leon Hess. I mean, he was the owner for ever. None of these other guys, you know, Mo Lewis, I don't know why Mo Lewis is on there. I mean, Dom Maynard, I get it. Why isn't like, I don't know. Jake: Mo Lewis, Mo is a strange one to string. Brian Cox, so him on there. Pepper Johnson. Yeah that's one trying to think like I'm like Matt snow on here or Justin: You know one of those older older players suck test bump bubble But fumble almost made it. I'm gonna submit my vote here. All right. Yeah, I agree between cocoa most Jake: I mean, Mo is a little bit more... Some of these comments are hysterical, by the way. I'm gonna go through them. Mo Lewis is a little bit more towards my watching time, so... But Clacko is definitely more, I think, iconic to the Jets. And Mo Lewis is also what I consider... He's kind of a traitor to the Jets. Well... Because he created the... Justin: I'm gonna read some of these comments. Okay. Read me some comments. Jake: Well, are you voting for Clacko? So you voted the same four. Yeah. Justin: All right. So... One comment rich kotai was snubbed It's kind of funny Maybe mauluis should have been on the Patriots Mount Rushmore Another one as a Pats fan. I voted mauluis Yeah Funny let's move on a lot where where's krobat? Where's krobat? Where's kishon Johnson? Jake: Yeah Kishan and I'll bet poison now for Kishan. No and yeah, I don't feel like he was a big I mean he was a jet but then he went on to a couple other places All right, and he won this let's talk about the elephant in the room cuz right now There's like this across up up the interstate to 95. We have a lot of Justin: taken over here in the news national spotlight. Jake: So let's get the easy one out of the way. Rob Gronkowski has had his fifth surgery in the off season. This time on his back, it's a 12 week recovery and that's two days after the start of the season. After week one. After week one. Now same procedure Jason Pierre Paul had for the Giants but he had it a couple weeks back. So I'm a big fantasy guy. I listen to a ton of fantasy podcasts, way too many. And it's like literally the only thing they can talk about. I don't really care about it from our standpoint.

18:02 Jake: Fuck, because I'm not, you know, not on the fantasy side, but from the, hey, it's the Jets. Hey, we play them in week two on a Thursday night. We play them twice. The chances of him being at that game, I think, if I think, are low. They're pretty slim. Justin: They, I mean, if they're saying 12 weeks, he'd be ready for that game. Yeah, but if they're if they're saying 12 weeks and he's gonna try and play the Sunday before yeah He may not make it to that that Thursday because it's a third. It's a three-day turnaround Jake: So not having him play against the Jets is always fantastic. Maybe also Well, so then I mean, let's go talk about Hernandez, but Hernandez is involved in some sort of Justin: He's in like a Ray Lewis situation right now. Jake: So he's gonna win a Super Bowl? Justin: He may. He may turn into the most inspirational football player ever. Jake: So he has Antler juice on his elbow? Justin: He could turn into Ray Caruth and go to jail. Jake: So yeah, he's involved in some sort of homicide. Yeah. I don't really know the details. Justin: I don't know him either because I haven't been reading all the stories. All I know is it's looking more and more like he's gonna get arrested for... Some charge relating to a murder whether it be a murder charge or Whatever conspiracy this that's the other so I don't wish to be like Doing stuff with his like like crashing cell phone. Yeah, like getting rid of evidence This is also why he was a fourth round pick Also, why Gronkowski was a second round pick right because he had He missed a whole season for the back in in college I know both of these tight ends that they picked in the same year second round fourth round And everyone's like, you know that year and after rookie year the second year They a like shit the Pats fleeced everybody right this year. It's coming back come back to roost. Yeah It's like hey, that's why he was the second round or hey, that's why he was the fourth round Jake: So I mean again as a jet You're a jet. I'm clearly you are a jet. As a jet. You should be on the Mount Rushmore. I should. As a jet fan, I, I mean, nothing can be better to me. Again, personal thing aside, I don't want anybody to hurt and I don't want anybody injured or whatever. But if those two players aren't playing for the, for the New England Patriots. Right. While we play them. Without Wes Walker. I mean, who's he throwing the ball to? Thank you. He's literally got, he's really got him. Justin: Dola rookie who they drafted and I don't even know aliens aliens. I mean, Jake Ballard. Yeah. Maybe Tim Tebow lineup as a tight end. Jake: So the fricking Patriots in what is probably just a revenge plot signed Tim Tebow gives a fuck to be a back end, a backup quarterback. Third string quarterback who. We will find out a lot about the deity in the sky this year because there's a God and he's a Jets fan, right? Tim Tebow is gonna fumble the ball in a game and the Jets can pick it up and score and touchdown Justin: Yeah, but it's gonna be on some stupid play. No, but God is a Tim Tebow fan

21:00 Jake: Well if they is that because he goes plays he's going to play against the Jets He's gonna play three times. He's gonna play three plays against the Jets in that game and he's gonna score all three times Justin: Yeah, he's gonna have a 93 yard touchdown run Jake: He's gonna have a fake punt is Eric Smith gonna miss the tackle at the goal on Eric Smith won't be on our team I know that's maybe the ghost of Eric Smith. I mean this guy does I don't actually think it'll be anything I think it's nothing he's gonna send the bench and that's it, but he's a curse. So I'm happy he's cursing them Justin: He's not a curse really Jake: Since he's been there we've had one surgery for one tight end He was going to have the surgery whether just telling you it's a curse Justin: I don't think he's a curse I mean he needed to go to a team like the Pats otherwise he wasn't going to be in the league Jake: It just doesn't it still doesn't make any sense You got a team that everybody wants him on All the fans want him on There's no good quarterback I don't know why Jacksonville wouldn't do it It makes no sense I mean Justin: Why would you just start him as your quarterback? Yeah, enjoy the circus. Jake: Deal with it. MgD and P-Bo. What's the worst thing that happens? Nothing. You can send them for like nothing. Nothing bad could come out of that. You're going to get fans are going to show up at your games. They're going to spend money. It makes no sense to me. If they go to London, they'll like them in London. They will. Oi, they prayin' Lord. Oi Tim Tebow, you're awesome. That's terrible. It's so bad. Justin: All right, I don't understand the Jacksonville thing. Why they won't go near him. All right, do you wanna do my bets or not? You wanna go? Yeah, yeah, yeah, what are you doing? So I'm gonna be the judge if you're gonna win or lose. All right, so I have a friend who's a Dolphins fan. Jake: It's not my wife. I bet her anyway. I don't remember the bets. So we were out actually at a Yankees game the other day. And as we progressively drank more and more, it was the Yankees Red Sox. And as the game got more and more delayed, we drank more and more. We were talking football and whatever. And you know, we're always smack talking just constantly. Right. He's a true fan. Like he's constantly wearing his dolphin's gear. He lives in New York. Like he's not a closet guy. So I decided to make a couple bets with him. We always make a couple bets every year. Not high jelly bean bets, but not, you know, not whatever. But it was funny because the bets went up. Now this time I wrote them down as I was doing them. So here's my first bet. So sometimes I combine players because I know that one of them is kind of a weak thing. Because I don't know who's starting. So I said Sanchez plus Smith. Okay, Jets quarterbacks combination versus Tannehill versus and more Dolphins quarterbacks, right? Cuz he what happens right? It's really just an injury prevention thing there Interceptions for the year. So obviously more interceptions would lose Justin: You're gonna lose that one Jake: Okay, you're feeling is Sanchez gonna throw a lot of interceptions And if he does then income Smith and he's gonna throw a lot of interceptions Yeah, he didn't throw it in college at all totally different Okay, that has literally no and he'll going to know throw a lot of interceptions last year. Yeah. All right, so he's gonna be close

24:01 Jake: All right. So then he was talking that's gonna be a good one Lamar Miller was Okay, and so he's like Lamar Miller versus Chris Ivory. What's the versus total yards? Total total rushing or total total? I think total total you got to be careful on that total yards Touchdowns average yards for the year. So a combination Yeah, two of three two of three wins two of three wins Justin: I think you win that one. I think I got that one. You might not win the yards one But you might win the other pieces of it. Really? Cuz I was gonna get a lot of yards, but I don't know if he's gonna catch a lot of balls It's not a pass catcher. I think you're wrong. No, I think that's gonna be Goodson's role He's on the team. Yeah, he's on the team. He's not with Hernandez. If you look he was I mean the stats are skewed cuz he's in New Orleans and when they threw the ball to a running back it wasn't him right but he never really caught the Jake: ball okay ever um then we'd say d defense defense and we went for the esbn total d ranking ranking okay jess versus dolphins oh i think you have that i think i got that Justin: i think the dolphins are good on defense i just really believe that rex is like Digging in he's fighting for his right life and where he's going to win his on the fight The only way he can stay is if you're gonna go we got the number two defense in the league That's what he's gonna try for. I'm not one gonna try for the number one Jake: And then I bet him the Jets will be a top five defense for 2013 Justin: Now you know where I stand. I think you got it. I really do. I feel like they have the scheme and they do have the players. It's a matter of putting it together. Jake: So the two D bets were 50 Jello Beans each. The two other bets were $20. So as we got there. So I think I bet him with better odds, with more money at the one. If you're gonna bet bigger, you're gonna want to bet on the Jets defense. Right. The thing that we think we can control. That, that, you know. Justin: The thing that we think we're actually decent at. Right. Jake: So those are my bets. Alright. I like it. It is time. We only have a few minutes left, then we have to... Two minutes, then we gotta run. We have to run somewhere. Alright, so the Jet Kingdom Fantasy League for next year is... officially open for submissions for submissions here's what you need to do tell me what needs to happen you need to send an email to podcast at JetCainan.com okay in the podcast we are looking into what sorry in the email okay you're looking for nine players we need nine we need nine there's only nine I don't I don't we need ten no it's you and I plus we're letting in oh right right The second place from last year. Because it was his idea. That leaves nine left. Is that right? Because we're going to go to 12. We're going to go to 10. This one goes to 12. Right. Because 10 was a little weak. It was a little... Those people on the... It was like an all-star team. Yeah. I got AP and Drew Brees. Justin: It was like, oh, all right. The Waverwire has this awesome player on it.

27:00 Justin: But I don't need them. Jake: Right. So remember that this year we have the double rules. Double rules. The first rule is you must play... active Jets on the 53-man roster you must play him in your active starting starting up except for those jets by obviously the bye week you get to play whoever you want right that is one the second rule is you may not play a player you can have my roster but you not play him Against the Jets. So the Jets are playing the Patriots. You may not start any Patriot player on your team that week. You can have him. That's a rough one because you know that just lowers the value of a guy like crazy. And we play Tom Brady, we play Ben Roth's right. You know what it brings into play. You got to look at weeks. Justin: 14 through 17 playoffs playoffs I think you gotta say hmm I can I can you got I can get to the playoffs thing Jake: We don't play we do not play the Packers You know we do not play the 49ers. We do play the Panthers. I'm looking at like top five I also played reds. We also play New Orleans. We play New Orleans, right and we play them like mid-season. So Justin: Yeah, you want to you want to look at the I don't want to give anyone any tips I want to win I want to win this I want to win again two years, right? So here's how do you get in here's what I mean email podcast at checking them calm. Yes, you need to send a picture Jake: Yeah, I want to see you in jet gear That's a little little strange, but okay. I want to see a picture of you in jet gear What happens if there's not a Jets fan? Well then you're not in the league. Okay, so you have to prove you're a jazz fan by sending a picture. That's kind of the point. Alright, well maybe it's like a Dolphins fan who wants to be in the league. Or if you're a hot chick and you want to send us a naked picture, we'll take that too. But please do not sell us pictures of naked chicks. Justin: Like Bob Sanders, Bob Boberson sends us a picture. Bob Boberson sends us a naked Sally Salerson picture. Sally Salerson, she's hot. That's what I want to see. Jake: We want you to send a proposal of what your team name would be. Right. Be creative. We won't publicize it. We also won't steal them. No, we won't steal it. I only used my name from last year. Okay. Yeah, I always use my name. Justin: I'm the broadcaster. Jake: What was your... and then we want to tell what was your best... Jets road experience. So if you ever went on the road to watch the Jets play, or if you watched the game, what was their best game that you played? So if you went on a one, then you wanted to do it. And then if like, if you went to a road game, we're gonna talk about that. Or if you just watched them on a road game, what road game do you remember the playing that you were in? And we have two answer these. We'll answer them on, not right now. Oh, okay. I think our favorites gonna be the same. You need to, well I'll pick the other one. You need to tell us why you should be in the league. Definitely. Yeah. Like you have to give us a reason. Justin: Give us a reason like you've been a listener for a while. Right. You're awesome. You play fantasy or you suck at fantasy and everyone's gonna need you.

30:00 Justin: You suck at fantasy and everyone's gonna need you. That's fine. Jake: And then you must pick. You have to pick. You must, Sophie's choice. between the podcaster and the broadcaster. Now, for those of you who don't know, we might be new to the podcast. Justin is the broadcaster. And that's all right. After many years of making fun of him, I decided that I was the podcaster, who's just someone who's a fan of the Jets, and you know, doesn't have to make these choices. I'm just like, I can be an unreasonable and crazy fan who flips his mind all the time. That's why I'm usually right, and you're usually wrong. Justin: I think most people picked me last year, so whatever. I'm usually right. You're usually correct. You're usually wrong. People picked you because they knew it would irk me. That's awesome. Basterds. Jake: They don't even like you. All right, so send that to podcastatjetkingdom.com. Bastered fans we have. Picture team name, best rose jets experience, why should be in the league, and then choose podcast or broadcast. You don't even have to tell us why. Just choose. Yeah, you just throw it in there. Just throw it as your fifth thing. All right, that is it. They're emailing podcastatjetkingdom.com. If you can't hit us up for that reason or somehow or whatever, if it's not getting through, you don't hear from us, I will respond and say, I got it. You can always go and hit us up on Twitter or Facebook or whatever. Yes, you hit us on Facebook, Jet Kingdom hit us up on Twitter. I'm at Jet Kingdom. He's at Just Jet Kingdom. And if you want to get us to it that way, I think there's links on the website at www.jetkingdom.com. Otherwise man that website needs a face. Oh god so badly. What does that website even look like these days? It looks exactly like it's always looked doesn't changed. It's only there because we do the podcast folks Right, like if we didn't do the podcast and probably just not have right website But you have to have a place to go for the world podcast. Yeah, other than iTunes you do put this podcast up there. Yes Okay, it's I don't not that's like the whole homepage. Yeah, here's the podcast. Yes, and in a redesign. There's forums Please all right Justin: Moving on what wait, there's there's a there's there's there's a forum. All right, I'm out Until next time we'll be back justins a dick Cumberland versus Keller was the last conversation. Let's go. Will the Jets use Cumberland this year more than Keller? We gotta go. I'm gonna answer this. Yes, they will. Questions from two years ago, but I'm answering it now. Jake: You do that. All right, Justin. Do not pick him. It only spurs him along. And we'll see you next week or a couple weeks, I guess a couple weeks unless something happens. Yeah. Until then, as always... Go Jazz!

33:01 Jake: You