Air Raiders

Opening

Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they hear the lamentation of their women.

Transcript

Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=0 @ 19.8s → Jake; other-primary cluster=1 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Justin name in host line kept on Jake (HOST_LOCK); Jason-ref Jake cluster 0 sim=0.81.

00:19 Jake: Welcome to the JKN Podcast. Longest running New York guest podcast ever! period I'm Jake joining me bird in the room bird and Justin Justin and bird how you doing Justin? just fucking awesome whoo all right we got a lot to talk about today and not too much to talk about it we have to do Jess versus Bill's we're talking about the pick them talk about JK fantasy league make our picks for next week and then do our throne pick throne picks and then be out So let's get into it. Let's talk about... Let's talk about the opener against New England. Like, ooh, KC. So funny that the whole thing was like, they did all the Super Bowl stuff, all this whack-off moments, blah blah blah blah, they're the greatest, greatest of all time, GOAT, blah blah blah. You know, 97% chance of losing the Super Bowl. You know, huge comeback in the second half. And then what happens? They... Almost the exact thing happens to them. They go out, they take a little bit of a lead, it looks like they're gonna win, and then Casey comes in in the second half and just puts the smack down on them. It's good for them for losing. But let's talk about the Jets. Justin: Fuck them. Jake: Let's talk about the Jets. Okay. Let's talk about the Jets. Jets vs Bills. Well we have to pick, we have to do all our stuff. We have to get back in the game. Like, what about our... What about our... Fool? Justin: Yeah, I got it. Fool. Fool the game. Fool the game. Jets, Bills. Alright. I'll stop by. It was this disgusting. Jake: It's so funny, because our other buddy, the Jets, Super Jets fan... was like, they played pretty well. They did. They played like a competent team. Like, what team were you watching that was competent? It was just this bundle fuck. They played like shit on offense. Justin: Shit on a stick. And defense. Defense was all right. They just couldn't stop the running game. OK, but. You know, it's hard when your offense is going three and out, three and out, three and out, like, and you can't get any rhythm going. Jake: But they let them run all over them. It's very difficult. Justin: Hey, it's one of the best, it is actually the best running team in the league from last year, so they are a good running team. They are. When you look at time of possession, they crushed us. they had the ball for like Nine more minutes than we did. I just ran, ran, ran. Everything, like, you pick up like eight yards to the shot. They had 23 first downs. We had 11. Jake: That's not good. So let's get to the number one thing. Justin: They had 400 yards. We had 200. McCon. McCon.

03:00 Justin: McCon. Did, like, live up to your expectation, below it, above it? Absolutely. That's exactly what I expect out of Josh McCon. So I went back and rewatched? Sort of. like sort of competent at times and then basically just lose games. Like that's kind of what he is. Jake: So he had two picks. One you could say was a deflection, wellness, or desperation. But there were two picks. I ran back and rewatched the condensed version. Yeah. There were two that he should have been picked. Drop picks. Yeah, drop picks. Yeah. So he could end the game with four. Justin: This is the tank strategy. I'm telling you. It's just... It's just... Josh McCown's the... losing his quarterback over the last three or four years in the whole NFL. Jake: It's just stunningly stupid. He's so bad. I just don't want to... Again, I said this during the game, I'd rather see Kaepernick in there. I'd rather watch a game... Like a fun quarterback. He's not fun to watch. Justin: You know what I want? RG3. No. What? The number one pick next year. That's it? And pick that guy and build the team around him. Fine, but then then we should actually get rid of this guy. Oh, this is the perfect guy No, this guy's the worst guys the machine to get you the first round worst quarterback on our roster Jake: No, but this guy's proven loser Justin: We've been losing Play the game to in 23. It's gonna win more games who in 23 over his last 25 starts proven loser I think the last two teams. He was actually a player on have had the number one picks like in the last three. James Winston, he was the starter the year before that. And Cleveland just had the number one overall pick. He was their starter last year. We're the Jets. Jake: Somehow he's gonna win eight games. No, not after that. I can see. Justin: I mean, you lost to the Bills pretty like handily. Ball to score, 21-12. Jake: We were not winning that game. Justin: No chance. No chance. No chance. Jake: And it could have been much worse if not for the... I mean, Tyroto doesn't throw a lot of picks. Justin: Because we can't run the ball. Jake: We can't run at all. That was terrible. And we're not going to be able to run. I don't think the whole year. I think you should take McAlm, sit him. I think you should take Forte, sit him. And I just want to see every young guy on the team. I just want to see them. I want to see them play. I want them to do better. Justin: Hey, there were some guys who actually played sort of well. Jake: Well, let's talk about the who impressed and who depressed. That's part of our segments. Okay. Who impressed? I liked it. You take impressed or depressed, I'll take the other one. I'll take impressed. Okay, I'll take, okay. Great. Justin: I thought Jermaine curse was a nice player. He was open. He caught tough passes. He was targeted nine times. He caught the ball seven. That's pretty good. They were all like possession receptions, which is fine. It's what you need. You don't need every guy sprinting down the field. And it's clear to me that he's our number one receiver. Jake: Yeah. We picked up our number one receiver. And the only thing I'd say is I didn't see much. There was much yak. No yak. He was like, catch the ball. Justin: He's a possession receiver.

06:01 Justin: Okay. He's gonna go down the field, 8 to 10 yards. He'll be open. He's not scared to go over the middle. He'll catch the ball. He's not a stick like Robbie Anderson. Right. So, yeah. He impressed me. He looked good. And there were a couple guys in the defense who... While they gave up a lot of rushing yards, I did think that there were some guys that played fairly well. Like, Coney Ealy played well. Josh Martin played well. Martin played like... These guys played pretty well. I thought Adams forced that interception by crushing the shit out of... I think it was Charles Clay. and the ball just popped up and Burris was there. Burris played well, didn't hear his name called a whole lot, which means he wasn't really picked on. Jake: So. Yeah, I just said, again, it's the Bills. The Bills are supposed to be like one of these terrible teams, too. I want to see us play a passing offense. We're going to see Oakland next week. And they're going to throw. And they're going to throw for a lot. And I think our second area is going to get torched. We'll see what crowd's going to do. Depressed? Depressing besides the running game, besides the offensive line, besides the down. Justin: Offensive line played OK in the past. Jake: Yeah, but on the run, they could not make the hole. No holes. Like zero holes. And we have slow running back. Yes. Trying to run through novels. Just play the rookie. Let the rookie play. Just play him. Just, there's no point. And then this actually came up. You were screaming about Darren Lee. Look at this guy, he's missing this, he's missing that. Rewatching, and again, as the guy pointed out, he said, go back and rewatch the tape and watch Wilkerson. And I went back and just watched Wilkerson. I didn't watch the whole game, watching all the plays. He was absolutely dogging it the whole time. Like, no effort, no anything. Terrible. Terrible. And he's been now called out by the media, like they're saying he had one tackle or two tackles. Like, this is a... He's the most highest paid player on our team, and he's doing nothing. He's doing nothing. He's dogging it after people. He slipped and fell like three times trying to chase him. I'm sorry. This. This is not what the wrong choice was made two years ago. It looked that way last year. Right. Justin: And now we're saying, oh, we should have kept snacks. Right. We were saying he came off a broken leg and shirt. Jake: Oh, no, it's not snacks. Oh, yeah, snacks versus snacks is a total mistake. Well, they were both free agents. I'm saying. Justin: And we signed Muhammad Muhammed to a huge deal. and and we have our number one receiver. It's fine. And he's getting paid nothing. Jake: We have him for like two more years.

09:00 Jake: That's great. No, I think that trade was great. Now looking at it, is Wilkerson kind of like, we even cut? Justin: We could cut him next year with no ramifications. Jake: Because he's good. Justin: These guys are hungry behind him. Eli's hungry. Josh Martin, he's hungry. Bucket, let him play. Overall. Jake: I'm get it together enough to throw that one whatever. Oh, just catch me, catch me insane. All right, so that was the game. Oh, who was your fool of the game? Your fool of the game. Justin: Fools are so hard because there's so many. Oh my god. I'd love to pick Darren Lee because I thought he was so bad. Jake: I'm gonna do the one you hate when I do this. Justin: I'm gonna pick Darren Lee. Jake: You hate when I do this. I make this fool. Go ahead. Oh don't pick the coach. Oh, I know you hate it. You're picking Todd Bowles you asshole I just I just don't like the decision-making. Yeah, he's an idiot. I Alright, so then that's a whole conversation not to add this week But like if we think he's an idiot then we then he is gone his game management skills are terrible really pathetic Justin: He needs to go to school third year Jake: He's like, her Medwords out there. But he's also defending it, like it was the right thing to do. Sure. And then, oh, you watch his presser, and he's like, gonna go watch the tape, gonna go watch the tape. I wasn't watching that. I was gonna go watch the tape. I'm like, well, what part of it were you watching? Justin: I'm on to Cincinnati, you just did. Jake: Were you watching anything? Because he says, I wasn't watching it. Justin: The shit part is that there has to have been an under the table agreement that's like, we're gonna basically go like 2-14 at best this year because we're gonna take every good player or maybe like perceive to be good player and remove them from the team. Jake: Don't know if I trust. Todd Bowles to get the shiny new puppy next year. And do anything good with him. Yeah, they need to hire an offensive head coach. Yep. Justin: And who's known for being good with quarterbacks. Look what happened with Rams. I mean, they drafted a number one guy in golf last year. They had Jeff Fisher in there as a defensive coach and not like a quarterback guru guy. But maybe that's the plan. Jake: Maybe it's the two year plan. Maybe it's the get the draft guy in this year. have. keep both then screw up another year he'll have gone from what 10 and 6 10 and 6 5 2-3 wins is that is that a good path you want to keep that coach?

12:04 Jake: I'm also not seeing an offensive, an offense that I'm happy with, coaching decision that I'm happy with, or a dominating defense. There's one thing to have Rex Ryan be when he was making bad mistakes, at least when he was doing that, his defense was so good, you're like, I don't care, I'm your defense. Justin: This is goddamn Bird. Bird, shut the fuck up, Bird. Jake: Bird will not shut up. Alright. Justin: God damn it. Any injuries coming out of the game? Nothing big, right? Jake: Not on our side. Yeah. No, not that I can think of at least. All right, let's get to, let's get to, let's just, we're on to the Raiders. We're on to the Raiders. Let's talk about, let's talk about the pick'em. How'd we do the pick'em? Or are we- I had seven. Are we going on to pick for next week? Yeah, we are, right? Any other news in the NFL other than the crazy week? Justin: Um, not really. I mean, it was a crazy week one. No real great, I mean, real great storylines coming out of it. I mean, just Kansas City beating the piss out of New England, I guess. Yeah, that was sort of the biggest one. Alex Smith. Houston losing. A lot of people thought that that would be like the play for Houston game. Jake: the They Watson they came in after what's his face What I didn't know the quarterback it's like Drake or was it savage Tom Savage look like Macho man Tom Savage like Tom garbage It's like and Alright, so in the pickle, how'd you do? She did a seven I went for 9. I went for 9. Picking the K.C. was really my my winner. All right, let's get on. Let's, pick some games this week. Let's talk about, Justin: We're on to the Raiders. We're going to do the in in in in to S Jake: the Justin: And Cincinnati favorite by six and a half, I actually like them six and a half. I like them coming off that drubbing and then the Thursday night home team, I just feel like has a such a big advantage about a bounce back game for them. Also, who's starting for Houston? I think it's Watson. It's taking all the first team snaps. Rookie first started out on a Thursday short week short week to politics and see yeah six and a half salat For a team that got shut out, but whatever all right Arizona is going to Indianapolis

15:01 Justin: Arizona's favored by eight and a half Indies probably just as bad as we are until luck comes back I, I I'm gonna take the indie eight and a half too much. Arizona didn't look the very good I'll take the indie. Yeah, indie's pretty bad though. They just got their butt smacked by the Rams All right, Kansas City's hosting Philly. Kansas City look great long week two Because they open on the Thursday. They're giving four and a half Jake: I would have preferred that to be three, so I'm going to take Philly. Oh, Casey, home opener. Philly's good. I love wins. I love watching wins. He is something that he does make mistakes. And this is going to be a good defense. Justin: I think Casey's going the coach, their head coach, though, came from Kansas City under Andy Reid. I think he knows. Yeah, I'm glad that doesn't know something. You are doing what? Jake: on the road getting seven. Short week from Minnesota still too much. I think that'll be a closer game Justin: than that. So I'll take the show as well. Tampa at Chicago opening week for Tampa. I think they're rusty. Favored by seven at Chicago? Sorry my bad. Wow you're in your zone. All right, sorry, Tampa's hosting Chicago. Glennon gets to meet his former team and Tampa's favored by seven and a half. I think they're just gonna be rusty. So I'll take the points. I think Tampa will win, but not by more than a touchdown. Jake: Oh, I think it's opposite. Tampa is ready to roll. They had. Bi-week they're all rested up. I don't think that's a good thing. No, they actually practice again extra week of practice I don't think that's a good thing. I think they're because the starters haven't played in a really long Justin: I think they're gonna come and just crush Chicago. Okay Tennessee goes to Jacksonville Jacksonville is Getting two and a half points at home. I love me my Jags at home getting points Jake: Wait didn't take Jags anymore. You gave up on them Justin: I'll take the jacks. Jake: Uh, they had, their D showed up last week, a little bit. Yeah, the youngsters are growing up a little bit. Uh, yeah, I'll go with the jacks. I'll go with my jag. I mean, your jags. Justin: And they have a running game. Uh, Baltimore is hosting Cleveland. Too, too much. Baltimore favored by nine. Holy crap, I just saw the chess line.

18:00 Justin: Yeah, yeah, we'll get there. It's pretty, pretty awesome. Baltimore did just shut out Cincinnati and they're- Awesome at home in Cleveland. I don't think it's as good as Cincinnati. So I'm gonna take Baltimore Jake: I just I don't know Cleveland played stuck it in there with with Pittsburgh Right. They were then three or four points. So I'm gonna say I'll keep them as division game Let's go late. Yeah, I'm gonna get how many games one two three four. Oh, we're one of them five Justin: I'm yeah, you miss that one. Yeah, so that blows that All right, we get to enjoy all the things are also playing late too. So Denver is hosting Dallas. Just pick them. I'll take Dallas. Jake: Oof. In Denver. Don't care. Dallas is good. Yeah, I'll take Dallas. Is he playing? He's still playing. He's playing the season. He's just going to play. Yeah, like fuck it. He's playing. He's playing. All right. Justin: Then I'll take Dallas for sure. First taking Dallas. All right. The Rams of Los Angeles. Yep. Are hosting the Washington team and Washington team. Well, yeah, I know. I just don't think your boy and her cousin's. Go so good. I just don't think they're going to go in two. They're getting two and a half points. I'll take it. Washington. Do you really think Golf's gonna come out there and have like two good games in a row? Also this is a little bit of a... Jake: Did they score 14 points on defense last week? Justin: They did. We'll see if their... I mean their head coach came from Washington. We'll see if he knows what it is. Yeah, I know. Jake: I like the Rams. I don't think it'll be a Golf game, but I don't think they're gonna ask them to do a lot. I think that defense might be for real. Justin: Seattle's hosting San Francisco. go. Seattle is giving 14, which is not the largest line of the week. I will take the points. Jake: Yeah, I'm going to stand for him. That was not the greatest thing you ever saw showing turf. Justin: That Green Bay Seattle game, which was like Snoozefest. Yeah, that Seattle defense is pretty good to have held in there with Green Bay. It's tough to. open at Lambo, anyway, and, and Alana I think I found that one better than you did Alana is hosting Green Bay Green Bay's getting two and a half, and I like them Jake: I'll take Green Bay Alana's opening this This is Sunday night Oh, Sunday night in the new stadium Right for a letdown It is, it totally is Justin: I'm with you, Atlanta. OK. And then we have the Giants again in prime time because they're so much fun to watch. Oh yeah, because they scored three points last week. Yeah, they're super fun. Jake: The Jets outscored the Giants last week. Sure did. Different opponents, of course. Oh, this is like Odell Beckham. This is like Odell Beckham. Let's get another catch. Justin: Oh, look how great Brandon Marshall was with his 15 yards. Is that him or is that the team? I don't know. Was that him last year or was that the team? Is he just not good anymore? Can we just like move on all the guys we cut and released and whatever listen man

21:01 Jake: Of them played and we don't have a ton of time But we could do a whole show on Mac and the pros and cons of Mac He has made some great decisions and he made some pretty poor ones the draft the draft class is like all these veterans Justin: He's gotten rid of none of them played worth the shit. Yeah the prior and some of them aren't even on teams Looking good Marshall looks good week one. We'll see at the end, but sure when he's a number two receiver, right? But he's not a number one and that's what he would have been for us I got your look too really good with his ten yards also by the way I know on a team that scored and okay, but we lost anyway Giants Detroit Don't tell me would admit a better time at home I actually can... you know what? We don't have time for this argument, we'll have it next week. Okay. After we get two weeks worth of data from these guys. All right, Giants home favored by three and a half against Detroit. No fucking way. Detroit wins that game outright. Jake: All right, let's go on. Let's make some... Let's make some... Who are you picking? Oh, sorry, in which? Giants, Detroit. Detroit. All right. Justin: Moving right along. Moving along. All right. We're on. So we got New England at New Orleans. What do you got? Oh, what's the points? Don't care. It doesn't matter. We're just picking the game. Jake: All right. Oh, we're just picking the game. Uh, no, it didn't look so good. I can't see. No way. A million times, no way, never, ever. It's no one's going 0 and 2 and looking bad twice. Justin: They're going to come back 40 to 32. I got a 31, 23, New England. Jake: OK. Buffalo, Carolina. I don't think Carolina is very good. They could not pass the ball. Cam Newton looks lassas shit. Buffalo looked okay against us. I don't know if they're they can run the ball. They could be close. I think this is like a close one. I'm gonna call it 2320. Justin: Okay I got it 1613 Carolina. Okay. Miami's at the Chargers. Jake: week off, bye week, rusty, maybe, then have to go all the way up to the thing. I've had chargers do it last week, I saw nothing of them. Justin: They played like super late at night, I think they lost. They lost. Jake: I don't know who the chargers are this year. I mean, the Phillip Rivers and like Gordon and like whatever, I don't know who they are. Like who are they? Who are you? What is the chargers? I could kind of see like Jay Cutler just having like his like little coming out party. this week sure whatever so I got I got him losing I'm gonna go 28 27 be close Justin: one oh I have it you have the dolphins winning yeah I had the other way 24 23 Jake: changes winning okay and let's talk about the game of century sweet all right so let's actually talk about this game Jets, second game, on the road, to start the season. McCown's still a starter, no major injuries. Going out to Oakland, Oakland looked good. Oakland is gonna be good this year.

24:01 Jake: They've got weapons. They're good. They can run the ball, their defense is above average. Justin: They're a good team. They have a good quarterback, they have a receiver, they have a running game, they have an offensive line. We'll see you next time. Very important All right, here's the key to the game Derek Carr gets hurt on the first play his backup gets Knocked out of the game on the second play. Okay, Mari Cooper also gets knocked out on that same exact play and Then maybe there's a chance Jake: That's terrible well, it's true well again I would like to see, here's what I'd like to see for the Jets. If I want them to win. I want my team to win. Because I can't go into every game just rooting for them to lose. Justin: I will root for them to win. Mentally it's gonna... Jake: I will realistically know that they're going to lose. So, in order for them to win, we have to see a better run D than we saw last week. I think they're just gonna pick on the passing game. I don't think TyroTale is a big passer. Everything he does is misdirection. He can't get brought down. We can bring down Carr. It's gonna be hard, but we can get back there and bring down car. Good luck getting through that offensive line. Well, I'm just saying Tyra Taylor we could have five sacks on him, but you just a grab and he just runs away I'll see ya and then runs for 12 yards. So the key of winning is get to car so he doesn't have a lot of time back there and Watch the watch our little young secondary with young safeties and second round, you know second year's corners They're gonna have to play fucking lights out. That's The Way to Win. Lights out on D and then McCown throws one touchdown. We have three field goals and we win the game. Math, 16-13. Yeah, okay. Justin: Good luck. So by the way, the line for this game is 15. So I'm gonna take the jets. I don't think we're gonna get blown up by 15 points I think the Raiders beat us 31 to 6. That's ridiculous. RYAN So you... Jake: So you... Tell me why that actually is ridiculous. So you, who said our secondary is going to be good, we're going to just get blown out of the water by their amazing pass offense? Yes. So then what's so our secondary sucks? Justin: It's it's more you can just boil it down to like the secondary is gonna be good. So we're gonna be in the game Jake: That's not why not works. Yeah, it is. No, you have it's a full game We're gonna turn the ball over four times. Okay, then that's so they're gonna score twice on once on d Justin: They're gonna step up easy. We're gonna we're gonna turn the ball over four times Which means the defense is gonna be on the field Against the bills we were on the field the defense was on the field for 33 34 minutes They're gonna be on the field your 30 terrible individual 36. I'm not they fucking saw you're the work

27:00 Justin: You're the worst they suck. I'm not I'm a realistic. I want them to actually lose. I want the number one pick I want the fucking quarterback We've been waiting forever to do it. Let's do it. Let's do it right. Let's root for it correctly. Well, no, I'm not rooting. I'm not rooting against my team. In the game, from four to seven, I will be watching, rooting for the Jets. All other moments, I will be rooting against them. Okay. How do you flip that switch? It's so easy. I'm thinking we're going nowhere this year. Why not go somewhere next year with a quarterback? Jake: I love the theory. I just think that we're gonna fuck it up. I think McCown's gonna fuck it up for us. Justin: No, he's the right guy. No? He's the right guy for the job. Jake: There's a worse quarterback on Earth roster! Justin: Pay him! McCown's proven. He's a proven loser play the worst one. No, he's not proven loser. Yes Jake: What if he comes out wins games that we got a quarterback? No, we don't win win you go and win five games Justin: That's not a winning thing that it's a winning people. You have a good quarterback awful awful awful. Let's just lose Jake: I got to go. All right. All right. We'll be back next week Karen will never do it on a Monday podcast ever, because it will never win. In fantasy, I don't know who I'm against, but whoever it is, I'll kick your tuk tuk, and, or fucking ass, I guess we could say. And I'll see you next week, as always, Justin Jake, myself, saying, let's lose, no wait, that's just not right. Let's go, J You