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00:18 Jake: Welcome to the Jet Kingdom Podcast, the longest running New York Jet Podcast! I'm Jake joining me 287 times in a row mr. consistent Justin no last name that's what they call me mr. consistent yeah consistently picking poorly in my fucking terrible terrible all right we got a big agenda for today We have to go over the game that was terrible, the jazz first of the falcons. Justin: It's a great game. What are you talking about? Jake: Oh, it's great. We just keep losing. We'll go around the kingdom. We'll do the jet kingdom, pick them. We'll do throne picks, keys to the castle, and how to beat the fucking bills on Thursday night. And then we'll get the fuck out of dodge. You ready? Justin: Do we know how to beat the bills on Thursday night? No Jake: We do not all right so Game that was I was The rainy the rain that game. Oh Justin: I like root my sneakers are ruined from that game. They smell so we did the funniest thing Jake: So it was a, it was, we went to go kill- Oh don't tell this story, this is bad. That's a funny story, why not? Justin: It's not like that funny. Jake: It's kind of funny. Justin: It's a little braggy. Jake: Is it? A little bit. They were super cheap. To you? Well, I'm not gonna tell the price. I'll say it's like super cheap. Okay. Anywho, I have tickets, obviously I have season tickets, it's a jest, and we go to most of the games. But your dad was going to the game as well. He goes with a bunch of people and he was telling me like all the prices were like dropping out of the sky for this game, because of the rain and whatever. He was upset because they buy them in advance Justin: before the season starts. They were down to like $5 for upper deck. And they just buy upper deck seats because they don't really care and they leave at halftime most of them. Jake: Oh, by the way, did he ever go into the game? Justin: I actually don't know. You might not have even- Wow. Jake: of rain. So it was all this rain, whatever supposed to rain, so we decided, so we were looking at it, and I was like, you know what? It would be super cool. Why don't we see if we can get some like, some, I mean, I don't have club seats, I just have like regular PSL seats, but I'm like, why don't we get some club seats? Anyway, we picked up some club seats, pretty on the cheap, and, but the, that wasn't the funny thing. The funny thing is we then proceeded to stand outside in the rain for three hours. Dumb idiots. Right. 8. We could have been inside. Justin: We could have got the club seats so that we could go inside and just be inside.

03:00 Justin: But you can't see the field from the club. Jake: Well, you can if you're at the tables that you can... You can't. I looked. Oh, you tried. Justin: When we first got in there, there was no one there. Right. Because we went inside at like 11 o'clock. That was the whole thing. We'll go in super early. We'll go to the bar. We'll have some food. Which was nice. And it was. That was worth it. But then... And it wasn't even raining that hard. So it was like, oh, we can go outside. We we watched like the entire warm up, which I like doing. Yep. And but I when we first got up there, I was alone. You guys were like a little behind me for whatever reason. Maybe you went to the bathroom or something. I went to see like, oh, if we just grabbed this table and we see. And it was like, no, you can't. Oh, you can't see from the club. You can't see the field. Jake: I think that's actually good. I think that gets people to get outside. Justin: Yeah, you have to go outside. So, but inside they got tons of TVs and they're playing the game but they TV and they have the radio feed. That's kind of fun. So you get the radio feed on top of the TV, which is whatever. Jake: What I didn't think was fun is they didn't have the other game on. So there was an early London game. The London game was not on TV. Justin: That was weird. In there. Jake: Alright, so we, but we went out into the rain. I was in a full rain regalia. You were in like sort of half rain regalia. Justin: I was in, I had a raincoat on that didn't work very well. I threw it out on the way out of the stadium and I bought a poncho and wore it as a skirt. Jake: Yeah, you did so I I was covered tweet me if you want pictures hashtag have them hashtag forever Justin: The issue was I was so stupid. I wore sneakers. I should have worn boots Yeah, I was in one kind of ruin those sneakers. They're totally they stink. They actually smell like they're fine They just smell really well has anything different than you? Like me or my shoes? My shoes don't typically smell. Yeah, anyway. Jake: So... Justin: Yeah, I mean, you know, we played a game. What are your thoughts? Big thoughts. Jake: Big thinking thoughts? Here's my thoughts. Like, here's like big picture thoughts? No, but like thoughts on the game. Like, here's my thought. I'm off the hook. Justin: Like, I feel like this is the story over and over again. I don't see why you can't get over the fact that that's exactly what this team is, that they can't play a full game. They're gonna play about. And not play a full game. I'm gonna steal from Michael Lombardi. For those that know Michael Lombardi, he was an executive in the league. He's kind of a bell check guy. He worked with them way, way back in Cleveland. work with him in New England. worked with the Raiders and Ral Davis worked again with New England very recently and now um you know he was on the NFL network for a while he's now on the Ringer network doing his thing on podcasts and he's got a bunch of theories because he's worked in front offices about like he has this blue chip red chip theory like you need a certain number of blue chip players and a certain number of red chip players to be more about yellow chip no it's blue and red And then he's also got this whole thing on like teams and like he would call the Jets a 45 minute team.

06:04 Justin: Right. Because we can hang with pretty much anyone for 45 minutes. Agreed. But we can't finish. We don't know how to finish. Do we don't know how to close out a game? We don't know how to get the big stop. We don't know how to score the big touchdown. But we're we're very competitive. Like we were winning at halftime often. Oh, we're very close at halftime. Towards the end of the third quarter, like once that 45th minute comes around. We start to suck. We just can't stay And that four for four to two for four was the six points that we lost. We lost by five. We also fumbled a punt inside of the 10, which gave them, you know, nowhere to go. They basically just, all right. We'll score a very quick touchdown. So. So many mistakes, so much nonsense in this game. In the rain to throw the ball 33 times, a little weird. Well, it's just we can't run. Well, yeah, that's our offense and it's unfortunate. And I don't think it's the running backs fault. I think it's the offensive lineman's fault. I don't think they open up holes. I think when there are big holes, it's usually a flag on the field for holding somebody. I think Brian Winters is bad. personal take. We are we are- missing our starting right tackle. He kind of hasn't played We do like to just throw the ball. I mean 26 completions for 257 yards That's you know to just contrast that to Maddy ice who had 18 completions eight fewer for the same amount of yards 254 so Jake: Whatever take from that what you will I'm in the rating and this is the thing that's like this rating and I said this before I think Josh McCown's a sack machine And yes, some of the line, but some of it's just knowing when to get the ball, give it away or know that the sack is coming and I get it away. Three sacks for 21 yards. Justin: That's not that's actually not that bad. Jake: That? Well, Matt Ryan won for eight. Oh, OK. So would you say is that on? Justin: Matt Ryan being really good or is that like the jets don't suck because we don't both because we really don't we're getting pressure

09:03 Jake: I mean we get pressure. We don't really sack people is true. That's another bad part of our game plan I I just it comes down to just you right not being able to execute the offense Can't execute when it needs to it can't drive the field They can't stay on the field and can't go down and score a touchdown Sort of at will not every offense can do that. Obviously elite offense can do it We're a below average maybe well below average. We're well below average Justin: We're and I think we are a 20-point team. We just did it. We put up 20 like that's right Jake: We can win 20 to 19 sure But we're not going to. We're not winning 20 to 21. Justin: You can't. You're just not going to. We're not going to win. Jake: We can win 20 to 2019 if we can keep them. If we play a bad team, we'll keep them to 17 points. Justin: Falcons aren't a bad team. Jake: Right. Even though they're four and three and third in their division. They're not bad. We can keep the Browns. Justin: I don't know how Miami beat them. Jake: I just don't get that. Well, that's a bummer, too, is that like the Falcons had just gone up and barely done anything against. Justin: They got crushed by the paths fine that'll happen and the bills in Miami both beat them fine The bills are okay, but Miami beat them and I feel like the Falcons were up by like 14 in that game Jake: I don't know how that happens. Tell me who impressed and who depressed Gone do you pick one? I'll do pick a deep rest or impress. This is not your fool of the game This is just someone who just like I wouldn't call out for being a fool, but he thought you're impressed with your depressing copy. Give me one Justin: All right, um, I thought Robbie Anderson had a good game He impressed me He did caught a couple balls that I feel like he wouldn't have caught last year like in Traffical like not in traffic, but like he was covered down the field But it's the play that he's there for, like run straight. And we're going to throw it. And like, if you're behind the a, the guy catch it. He had the touchdown, which he was wide open on that one. That. Was a good throw. Yeah. And there was another one where it was like my count just sort of threw it and it was one of those like fits to Marshall kind of like. All right. I gotta get the ball out of my hands and he just sort of tossed it to single coverage and Robby made a catch. Jake: 6 for 6. Yeah, he did a good game. I throw in the d, Agathone impressed. Impressed with the defense keeping the running game just again pretty shut down on their side. Yeah, they had one big run other than that. If not for that. It really wasn

12:08 Justin: the a,-in-in-in-in-in-in-in Robert says the 7th round corner. They just, you know the Jets made a trade? Jake: Oh, he's field goals and I don't know in the season, but I feel like he's at least missed almost once Justin: once a game. I'm done with him. Oh, I'm totally, I want to fight. So over, why don't you go find the cheapest whatever college dude? Literally. How about the dude that we keep inviting to camp every year from Duke and just have, he can miss field goals. I actually don't care if he misses Jake: field goals. This is one of those things that like where, I think um... I think staff is a little bit there a little bit and they say they're like everybody earns their job or whatever But I feel like this one he is not earning anything. He should be earning himself onto a bus Justin: You know what? He's good at kicking. Yes, he is good. He kicks the ball through the end zone Jake: That's all he does. Well Justin: He sucks Jake: you know and I hate to blame because he's kind of had like a really great season so far and it's been up Mine, I mean a not full of money picked us a as a night but That was a backbreaker Curly Curly I mean it's kind of like it also didn't have a very good game the whole no But the whole thing about curly was like you're sure handedness. It was a get the ball Justin: a Let whatever so we'll take it at the five right right that happened earlier in the game I think and he was gunshot you didn't want to let it bounce because He knew yet if he caught it he actually had room right like it was a booming kick And it was high like he had he probably if he catches that like the five Jake: Maybe get to the 15 right? Yeah, he's got like 10 yards ahead of those actually a good play I'll make that my play the games when we down to that the like cuz I'm nice play Inch hey lock Lachlan had a good game. He had a good game. He's inconsistent, but he had a good game Justin: I've actually been fairly good this year. I think statistically. Yeah, I think probably says the average 52 yards upon three inside the 20

15:01 Jake: He had a long of Justin: I mean he did that at the end of the video. I don't think he fits as well as like a forte would fit for the Eagles. Well, let's talk about let's first Jake: We'll go around good first go around the league and then we'll get to the tree Around the league sweet. We already talked about about them in a second or two But then on Sunday morning, we know what happens Browns go to their hometown home away from home in London and get beat the fuck out of by the Vikings Vikings now six and two Browns oh and eight Justin: Browns locked for number one pick yeah I mean especially with the Niners um and what happened Jake: there so the one of the preseason favorites still the inconsistent Panthers go to the Tampa Bay Bucks and beat them Who is the Panthers game? I don't know. Like, where are they? They're like all over the map. And it looks like they're... Well, we'll talk about that trade in a second. As predicted, 49ers lose. Didn't even play competitively. It's actually looking like a thing. They're not playing competitive anymore. We'll talk about them in a second or two. Okay. Lose the Eagles. I'm like, I think the Eagles are on the run. I think they're gonna be right there. And I think that's actually why the Patriots didn't trade them one of their players. We'll talk about that trade in a second. Okay. And I don't have a question on that one. Bears, don't do anything. Trubisky, did he even throw a, nope, doesn't even. throw, a touchdown again. Saints look good in the Saints for the rest of season? I don't believe in the Saints. Okay. Patriots squeak one out against the Chargers. Thought this would be a blowout. Patriots making a run now. Six and two. Any chance anybody catches them in the AFC East? Is it a lock to Patriots? Patriots win the biggest lock ever. Okay, put your money on it. Bills host the Raiders. Raiders now fumbling, dumbling, bumbling down to Nowhere'sville at three and five. Bills at five and two, one spot behind the Patriots. Have they played the Patriots yet? Justin: Don't think they have. They may. Jake: Don't think they have you don't think they play each other. Yeah, I don't think they have me like I'll look that up real quick All right, real quick Real quick, Bill's just get a new weapon. I think those are making a push for they are definitely trying to make the playoffs Justin: Yeah, there now they're trying to make the playoffs. I'm so fucking lutely. No, they have not they play New England December 3rd at home and then

18:00 Jake: December 24th, which is the so a 6 and 2 team against a 5 and 2 team and they haven't played each other yet No, they haven't bills could fucking win the division. They could I find it highly unlikely highly unlikely . But let's just say by the way, the bills schedule really wonky. So Justin: starting December 3rd, so what would that be we? 17 16 15 14 13 week 12 at Kansas City New England Indy okay Miami at New England Miami weird schedule that's a weird one but at Kansas City New England and then New England again in there is like that's three losses Jake: Seahawks maintain the Watson and Nader. We got to come up with a name for him and maintain shit. Jets not picking Watson. One of the worst one of the worst misses ever in Jets history. Can it be yet to be? Justin: No, yet to be determined. I mean, first of all, we missed on Tom Brady. We, because remember, we didn't pick a quarterback. No, we actually picked a quarterback. In round one, when Tom Brady was drafted. Okay, that's true. We also deck Prescott. We picked a quarterback that year. Russell Wilson. We picked a quarterback that year. Like we actually. didn't pick a quarterback when Watson was picked and yet to be determined. I mean, Adams could be great. Jake: Cowboys four and three beat up on the Redskins. Kirk Cousins, future New York Jets quarterback. Justin: A lot of a lot of rumors flying around. Jake: I'll talk about the trades. Stewart, stay stay ahead of everybody. There's it's kind of like a two man race in the AFC, right? It's kind of like Steelers and Pats at this point maybe with the Bills fighting their Chiefs four-man race and then Broncos Justin: Get beat down. They look like a bad team. They look terrible talk about really missing like they Like that that one see that one if I was a Broncos fan, I'd be way more upset as a Broncos fan than I am as a Jets fan with McCown as like the starting quarterback. I'd be really upset with Simeon starting at quarterback because you have a first round. I have a first round pick sitting on the bench and I've got another guy in the cock sit also as the back. So Lynch isn't even the backup. I got Brock the cock as the backup who I thought was my heir apparent and I was going to pay a shit ton of money. But Houston snatched him up and it turns out he sucks right turns out Brock the cock is not a good quarterback No, he's tall though couldn't win the starting job in Cleveland

21:01 Justin: No, couldn't even win that job with Kaiser there Cuz are so saying they're terrible awful. Did you see how I mean Cleveland so bad Did you see how badly they fucked up? Well, first of all, you've got the Wens thing where they traded out and Wens looks like an MVP candidate. Yep. Then they didn't pick Watson this year, who looks like he's going to be the rookie of the year. So that's two really bad ones. They traded for Brock the Cock, which kind of wasn't a trade for him. It was like a move up in draft picks. Fine. But yesterday, they have a trade agreed to to get. The the Bengals backup like McCarron McCarron who's not a bad like we saw him play last year and Do really well and even play well in the playoffs and Or two years ago when he played in the playoffs for Dalton. He played like really well against the Steelers. I remember the game and They have a they have a they have a trade and they don't get it into the office because they're celebrating it How bad are you? Oh man, because you're celebrating so some Whoever was supposed to call it into the office just didn't do it. Terrible. How do you fuck that up? And just going back to denver Quickly, sorry. Yeah, I I would absolutely be more upset if I'm a Broncos fan because a the Broncos defense is better than the Jets defense So you've got a ready-made defense there. Yep, you've got a running game Jake: Well, they don't have the defensive coordinator didn't lose the coordinator wait Phillips still a good defense You've got talent. Talent, yes. On that defense that the Jets don't have. But talent plus coaching equals championship. Justin: I'm saying you got Von Miller on that defense. You got to keep Tlaib on that defense. You got Harris on that. I mean, those are three of the best players at their positions in the league. On defense, I mean, that's a good defense still. And then you have a first round pick. And you're playing the seventh round guy who can't score touchdown. Jake: No, he's terrible. He's awful. Justin: And you have to Marius Thomas, too, by the way. Jake: But they have line problems. I mean, they have line problems. That guy has zero time. I think there was like, I mean, maybe again, it's just weird because it's one or the other. Justin: You can't just say, oh, they have a line problem. Fuck that. Like, no, we have line problems. You know, who has line problems? You know who's great? Jake: Russell fucking Wilson. So true. We keep saying all the time. All right. Let's talk about. let's talk about trades because trade deadline came up talk about the big ones AJ McCarran AJ McCarran didn't happen. Justin: Jai to the Eagles. Jai to the Eagles for like a fourth or fifth or something. Jake: I think this is and I talked to two. That's all in. Justin: That's all in on the for the Eagles. Yeah, that's all. Jake: I like it. I like the movies. It's like, hey, we need a we need this guy. Justin: They can have it. It looks good. I'm not sure how he actually. Jake: We talked about this. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. Justin: We talked about this just last week because we just saw him play twice.

24:04 Justin: He wasn't very good either time. We traded for some corner from corner from San Francisco for a fifth next year. Yeah. Seems like not great value. Jake: No, like if a guy's going for a fourth, I'd feel like this guy who has his. Apparently has issues. Penalty issues right? Oh, we don't have any that on our team, right? Cuz we're the most penalized team in the league Justin: So let's just go get a penalty Jake: Bill's trade for the Panthers for tell me that you know, what did they trade cuz I never I never saw the other side They also treated away one of their defense men But what did they trade away to get Benjamin? Like I never saw the other side of the deal Justin: To know if it was like, oh, that's a really good deal for the Bills or not. Jake: I have no idea. Let's see. It's just weird. Let's see. Justin: The Bills have done some strange things at wide receiver this year. Jake: To on Tuesday is really, you know, an intro. I'm just a passer. Justin: Riveting. Riveting. Riveting is terrible. Jake: I don't know what it was. Me neither. But he was like when he came out first, we got hurt that first year, right? Did he got hurt? Training camp of his second year second his rookie year. He lit the world on fire Justin: He's big dude fast dude catch go get jump balls and any bills for suffering He missed right he missed his second year the whole year then last year he came back He's he's inconsistent. I think on the bills though. He's not fast is what he's not So like the whole like idea of him just burning you down the field and gonna happen but in the red zone That dude's a weapon. Right. And over the middle, that dude's a weapon. So if you have him out there, a healthy clay, um, Matthews, a healthy Matthews, who's kind of the same as Benjamin, you kind of just need a speedster and they drafted a dude in the first round who I don't think is panning out as a rookie, at least. I mean, that's a tough, that's a tough offense, the Bills, because their quarterback's a real weapon and they got LaShawn McCoy back in two Jake: and they have a running game. And their defense isn't bad. Yes, because they have a defensive-minded head coach who actually cares about defense. But the big one, the big trade, the annual Patriots Fire Day of Sale. Jimmy boy. Jimmy Garoppolo to the 49ers. Justin: Pretty boy Jimmy. Jake: So I think the thing that kind of gets me on this, do a good job. They will be given from Cleveland much earlier over the preseason and all that. Like and first, first. Good first pick. Justin: Almost every year. Jake: I know they are saying that one of the rumors are Still have a bad day. Still a little pissed about them and about the brown. I could see that totally Justin: I could see how he would absolutely hold that grudge and he's the way he is, you know Jake: So there I mean all the stories are are the Jets are one of the winners because now yet another team is out of the

27:06 Justin: You know, I don't think that that's true Right. Well, I take on it because there was no like under the table agreement and we haven't seen a real agreement that Garoppolo would all of a sudden be resigned. He's a free agent, right? The the the what happened was the pats got what they could get at the deadline for a guy that is not a because Tom Brady's not going anywhere anytime soon. He's unfortunately he's a fucking alien and he's just gonna be great forever and You know, they got a pick an asset for a free agent that they weren't going to resign. Because he's gonna he was gonna request money like real money, right?. Because someone was gonna give Jake: it to him. I just feel like they were going to do that you could have done earlier and gotten much value. You got like a first rounder. There was so many people in this market in the beginning. Now again, rumors, whatever. And you know what also made me say is hey the 49ers are looking at the draft next year going Yeah, we didn't think that like we need to make a move because we're not really excited about what we see there So like, you know all of a sudden this draft was supposed to have all these fucking talented quarterbacks Might not be there. So anyway, let's get this is some throne picks Because we won't have we have 17 minutes Oh shit, let's do it. Yeah. So let's do the throne picks where I pick every game, but the FCS we come back around. We'll be a small pick because it's only two games. So let's pick every game, but the FCS and then do thrown then. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Justin: Three, four o'clock by the way. All right. Oh, I like it. We'll be home back. Tennessee hosting Baltimore. No line. Because Joe Flacco got his head knocked off. Yes. Bye. Jake: Kiko Alonzo. I got Tennessee. I'll take home team. I'll take Tennessee at home. I think he's gonna play though They're saying that's like he's not feeling anything still take tough dude. I'll say for all his yeah Justin: I go doesn't miss much Alright, New Orleans is hosting Tampa, New Orleans favored by seven and a half. I don't like the half Jake: I'll take Tampa. I'll take the half. I'll take two halves. I'll take three halves Tampa Bay put up three points last week Justin: and And the Rams are favored on the road by three. Jake: I like it. Oh, I like it off a buy. I like it. I like it. They should have fallen off a week ago off a buy, too. Oh, both of a buy. I just don't know.

30:00 Jake: Giants are going to turn it around. Now they don't have talent. They might not win another game. Rams. They have to. Well, not really don't know. I'm offense, all right the only. Justin: It's hosting Denver. Philly's favorite by nine. I think Philly wins and in the middle of the game we'll see some Brock the cock. It'll be done. Dunner's for Simeon. Jake: Why not? This is the game where Simeon's. Dunner and Dunner's. Put in the Lynch. Put in the Lynchmeister. They have to dress them. They don't dress them, right? You only dress two corner backs. Just ridiculous. Uh, I'll take Philly. Justin: Me too. At home. Nine. I don't care. All right. Carolina. A guy who runs for 90. Carolina's hosting Atlanta. It's a pick them. I got Atlanta. Jake: I think Elena will right the ship. I don't like Carolina. Carolina's doing a good week, bad week, good week. This will be their bad week. And they just traded Benjamin. They might be shut out. Cam's not gonna be happy about that. They might be shut out. All right, my Jags are hosting Cincinnati Justin: during the Vegas zone, four and a half. Vegas zone. I got the Jags. I'll take the Jags as well. My Jags, they're so good. Houston is hosting Indy. Their favor by 14 with that rookie quarterback that I wanted the Jets to draft go back and listen I was adamant you were and Jake: You might have been right Too much Divisional too much. He doesn't see me. It doesn't matter. It's just too much. All right four o'clock Justin: Arizona is going to San Francisco I like that. Uh, Bresch, uh, the other day does not believe David Johnson will be returning this year. Of course not. You shut him down. Yes, you are done. Sir, you do not need a year of, like, on your legs. You're fine. We are going to lose just fine without you. Yes. Uh... We'll keep losing. And San Francisco's home and favored by... Oh, sorry. The rubber dog. They're, they're getting a point. Jake: Give me Jimmy. Give me Jimmy. Give me Jimmy. I mean, this is the four o'clock. I'll be happy to come back and watch this because we'll see the same. Give me Jimmy. I'll take San Francisco as well at home. OK. Justin: Then we got Seattle at home against Washington. And Seattle's favored by eight. I think it's too many. I think Seattle wins. I just don't know if they win by eight. So give me washing. This is a let down game for Seattle. Jake: I don't know. They're home though. They play really well at home. But they're playing close games at home. They're not pulling people out. Justin: I think they're a close game team this year. Jake: They let a team put up 41 points on them last week. So I can see them hanging in there. Lots of it's very special. So they've got also they've got receivers. Keep going. Keep going. Justin: All right. Dallas is hosting Kansas City. This is a pick them. I have Kansas City. They're good Jake: I'm Dallas Dallas at home. No Zeke No Zeke Definitely matters. Don't even say I don't think it's really good. He is that good Justin: But I think that it acts that good acts that good but Dax that good because Zeke's that good Cuz when Zeke's in the field he can run for like

33:02 Justin: 180 yards so can alf that's it for Sunday afternoon we're skipping Sunday night because it's Miami and we're moving right to Monday night where we have what should have been a really good game Detroit at Green Bay Um, Detroit favored in Lambo. Don't like that. Give me Green Bay and my man, Hundley, who has a chance now off the bye week to like, you know, get apparently Jake: apparently Rogers is back in the building and working with him. Damn right. I'm the man. My boy, Brett. Just don't think there's a new Brett in town. I just think I think So yeah, let's move on to go to our games we only have 12 minutes, but we have two games so it's good. Yeah So all right. What do we got we got ours first with our second? Yeah, we got Oakland is going to Miami Justin: Miami just trading Jay a jai Didn't they do another trade too? Jake: Who or did they just do one? No, they were talking about Landry, but it didn't happen didn't happen Yeah, they were they're they're kind of giving up. Uh, they have no run game now Because those other guys suck they have Williams and drake. Yeah, those guys are terrible. No, they're both draft picks. All right All right Justin: Yeah, what's the line on this three oaklands favored on the road night game? Oakland's good at night. I feel like they like the prime time Jake: Sit actually not true Derek cars of nighttime record is really bad. Is it time time record is I could be like that bad Justin: I mean, he's only been the league for like three or four years Jake: Well, it could be that bad if it was like five games. Oh and two. Yeah, it's just not been that good Justin: Yeah, I feel like Oakland is They're sort of an enigma, but I can't see how Miami hangs with Oakland in this particular situation. Jake: Hanging with the mocha. Is Matt Moore playing or is Jay Cutler playing? I think the idea is Jay Cutler is going to be back. I think this line's got to have J. Cutler back, right? I don't know what's the difference? Yeah, I don't know. I mean they were abysmal. Because Matt because Matt Morley looked like a pile of poo last week. So it was the cutlet. But he's like he actually looked better than Matt Morley. They were shut out. I think they've both been shut out. And now with Noah Jai, like you just take that box and you stack it all the way. Yeah, I'm just gonna say... I don't know. 26, 10 Oakland. I think they'll do a little bit better than they did last week. So I'm going to go 34, 9 Oakland. So instead of 40, 0, 34, 9. Justin: OK. Well, we both got Oakland. All right. And then what's the Thursday night? Yes. Jake: Primetime Jets are only primetime games. Because everybody gets a winner. Everybody gets a trophy. And everybody gets a primetime game now.

36:01 Justin: Yeah, well, I mean don't we deserve it? Don't the bills deserve it? Uh, color rush, perhaps? Jake: It will be color rush. All green? Just to be out in their Kelly Greens, I think. Justin: All green? Jake: All green. Justin: I guess the bills will be in all white. All white. Okay, and so what do we do here? Keys to the castle situation? Jake: How do we win this game? You know what? You got a couple minutes. Justin: Yeah, this one's winnable. Really? Jake: Yeah, Division games are winnable. I feel like this is the most unwinnable besides the Patriots game. This is the most unwinnable game we've had all season. Justin: No, no. I- Division games are especially when it's the second time around and you're home and you lost the first one. Like, this is a hard game for the Bills. On the road. Second time playing us, short week. This is a hard game on the bills. Jake: But we're at home, short week. Second time playing the bills. Right. Second time. We will have short weeks. Justin: I know we don't have to go anywhere. That's true. And we're at home. Yep. And we lost the first one. It's hard to sweep a team is what I'm trying to say Oh, I'm great the paths are the ones who do it all the time to everybody but the bills aren't the like sweep ya team. I Jake: Don't know. I mean we should have swept the Dolphins, but we didn't that team But that's the thing that team the bills I've been watching them, you know 10 gently. They put up points. They can actually score. They can come back in games. They can do Justin: all the stuff that we can't do. Yeah, they're they're good. The the so the key, I believe, is to make to rod Taylor. When as a quote normal quarterback, like don't let him. beat you with his legs by extending plays that that that extension of a play is what causes breakdowns to happen and big plays to happen right because he'll just run around back there and someone will get open you can't cover for like six seconds it's impossible so you've got to shorten the play up you've got to make him stand in the pocket don't run past them you know don't don't Miss there's I know there's gonna be an infuriating moment where we miss a sack because he just is that good It's either a soup or like he just stands there. He's just you can't tackle him. He's like a running back very well He's a running back or a receiver like he could probably play those positions. He's a extremely good athlete so And we have to stop we have to stop McCoy. No, he didn't stop him last night But I feel like our run D's better now than it was then I think that's true Like for all my complaining. I feel like Darren Lee is a better player Halfway into the season than he was in week one like he's actually improved and that's that's pretty good. So

39:06 Justin: I don't want to but I'm going to pick the Jets to win with our magic number of 20 to 17 Jake: So the keys of castle for me is the reverse It's reverse it flip it up reverse it you're gonna run a trick play Nope, reverse that we should come out and not script the first drive or drives, you know, because sometimes coaches have a certain set of plays scripted for their quarterback. So you say like you're gonna come out and you're gonna do either these eight or ten or twenty, whatever it is. I say we come out, we don't have the first one scripted, and we leave that to the fourth quarter, and we just have the fourth quarter scripted. So whatever they were gonna do in the first quarter, they just do that in the fourth quarter because here's the thing. If you look at if you look at McCown's like rating by quarter, it's this drop off on a cliff. He starts really hot and then he gets worse and worse and worse. And every quarter he gets, his rating goes down and he gets worse. And so what happens is we get off doing a good lead and then we have to, you know, we have to keep the lead, but we can't, we can't stay on the field because he can't, he just gets worse and worse. I say we flip it up. We come out. He's going to be terrible in the first half. We're going to be down 13 to 0 at halftime. Our defense is going to keep us in there, let in one touchdown, two field goals, and we're going to be down 0. But then in the second half, they're going to come out and they're actually going to drive and try to win the game. Of course, it doesn't make sense with my score. I don't think we're gonna get to 20. It's two good defenses. I feel like it'll just be back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. A lot of punting. Uh... Yeah, my score is uh... I think we get to 20. Huh? I think we get to 20. 20 is our number! Jets 19. Bills 18. Jets win. Okay. This is the least confident I've had about any score I put down this whole year. I could totally see a 35 to play 13 game as well. I just... I want to see the reverse game. I want to see a team that actually comes out in the second half better than they were in the first half. And I haven't seen that all season. I mean, it's really not... I mean, even in the Cleveland game, I think we came out, we were worse. It's just like the team doesn't have that fourth quarter in them. So let's hope there's a fourth quarter in them. Let's play a... let's play a reverse game. putting your best ball in the fourth quarter, not in the first. I wanted to come out first thing, snap the ball, throw an interception. That's what I want, first play. I think just that's it. And then the rest of the game you can actually play well. All right, that's it, we'll be back. Ooh, next week. Gonna be a toughie, we're on the road. Friday. Oh, oh right, because we have a Friday. Yeah, I guess we can do a Friday edition. We'll do Friday next week. Of Friday of next week or Friday of this week?

42:00 Jake: No, next week. Because they play on Thursday. Next week. Friday of next week. Justin: Yeah, because we can't do Friday. We can't just do it on Friday. The week hasn't happened. Jake: That's true. All right, Friday of next week. All right, we'll be back regardless. You love us. We'll see you there. Justin, Jake, saying. Let's go, Chats. You