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Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women.

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00:20 Jake: Welcome to Jet Kingdom Podcast. Longest running New York Jet Podcast ever on the planet. I'm Jake, joining me, first time in 288 times, Justin. How you doing Justin? I'm good, thank you. So, let's do a little bit of truth telling. I'm gonna tell my truths. You and I were both. away this week. We were. Together. Together. That sounds wrong but it's fine. It was good. No judgments. And this last weekend I watched zero football. So the gods, the football gods, were good to me because... Had a thing I had to do on Sunday and the football gods took the Jets and put them on a Thursday night. That's right Thank you football gods. We were there and we went into the game But during that Sunday I did I I mean there was TV on there was TV around somewhere But because of all the stuff that's going on I could not Watch anything. So then Monday we then flew and went halfway across the country and all the way across the country and Like I just I feel so out of football and this week has been so crazy that I'm just apologizing now that if I don't if I'm like, I don't remember anything Well, you generally don't know shit anyway generally I know ten times more than you do you can name the player but you're stupid then that happens Justin: But anyway, I beg to differ but okay, so Jake: I'm not in my usual, like I've usually just watched the rewatch the game or I've looked it over stuff. So it's, Justin: So you have to watch the game twice. See, that's your thing. Jake: I generally do. Justin: I don't have to do that. Jake: I go to the game and then I watch it on, I watch it on replay again. I did watch this again, but I watched it last week. Like I watched it on Friday. So like, it's been a week since I've watched it. And this whole thing has happened this way. So, we went to this game. Justin: We totally did. Who do we go with? Jake: I'm like your dad? Justin: My dad and a Bills fan. Jake: Oh, that's right. It was the four of us. Yeah, four of us. Totally undersold. Nobody at the game. Filled out a little bit. It was terrible. It was more than halfway. But I think we won this game. Justin: Yeah, we did. We won pretty easily. It was strange because it was opposite of what we typically do it was a close first half It was 10 was it 10 7 and half and then we just came out and dominated in the third quarter in the first half of the fourth quarter and at that point It was 34 7 and we kind of let our hey let our

03:09 Jake: The best season without a doubt pretty much again it you know we talk about time That's all around twice in a division is tough Unless they're like the Browns or the 49ers, so they're just terrible like being someone twice is tough Yeah, you could show your tendencies you can change up Justin: We're almost done. I mean we have one division game laughs well Patriots. Yeah, that's fun. I guess always fun Jake: But really the story of the day is is the run defense has now I mean I don't want to sit there and go like they're real But I've seen him shut down on Jaijai twice. How jaijai, see there's the thing. I don't know how he, even did this week, last week. Justin: He had minimal, minimal touches, but he looked good when he had the ball. Jake: So it could be that the Jeff defense is good. The run D. Um, and we did the thing that we never do against terror tower. We sacked him seven times. Fucking sacked. We talked about that. Sacked the shit out of him. We never sack him. He's like un-sackable because he's like Russell Wilson, but stronger. We could go to that line. We got them every time we run away. We'd run faster This is when I think this plan to like get younger and faster looks like I want to say oh You did it like this team last year that guy just ran around and ran for a hundred yards on yeah, probably McCoy ran ran ran McCoy couldn't go anywhere. No, there are no holes Justin: There was no, but it was the guy who usually cuts us up like that Shifty runner. Totally the big losers don't get us Jake: Running back who used to destroy us hundred yards every time he met us CJ Spiller No, someone else and he used to be on maybe the Ravens and he went to the bills. Oh Will Spaghetti. Yes opposite. Yeah started with the bills, but he started bills. We used to tear us Yes every time you know how good our defense was that's true. Right? Remember that didn't matter. Will some again They couldn't run and this is also a game where you just show you show like kind of where Tyrod Taylor is it's like He if you put the good game on his back and you're and you're running is gone and it was the perfect game plan It's like alright, we're not gonna let you run We're just gonna go out there and see if you can wing it around and he couldn't he couldn't around you had a decent enough Justin: But that's all fourth quarter crap. Yeah, there was some there was some fourth quarter crap We we had a hard time with some their younger receivers, but we were also missing our Jake: Top corner, but I think this is the thing I don't like about his stat line Especially when you look at this because yeah 29 for 40 285 yards and two touchdowns zero in

06:12 Justin: The percentage of the game is lower. Like, Sanchez never really completed 70% of his passes. That's true. But it was always... He completed 55%. Jake: We didn't want him throwing more than 20 times a game. Justin: No, he was more like a... It'd be 12 for 20. 12 for 20 or and I'm 11 for 20. And we run and you know Forte had a very balanced, he had two touchdowns. He's out. He's definitely out. We gotta swap in some Elijah. Yeah, well, it's. Blau Powell and Elijah McGuire. Really came out in the second half which has been a problem in my opinion and and they they really just put it to him in third in the third quarter which was really nice in in terms of like the actual we got a dog scratching at the scratching at the door there. They did a good job in terms of like all the Um, like turnovers and all that, that fun stuff. Right. So I think the bills, uh, turned it over three times. Yep. We forced four fumbles. We recovered three of them, which is awesome. Jake: Yeah, that's huge. Justin: I mean that that's it. We, we just won the turnover battle. We ran for. 4.7 yards per rush. They ran for 2.9. We ran the ball 41 times to their 22. I mean, this is the bills they're running team. We ran for one 94. They ran for 63 and that's it. Jake: We, we just take their but we could stay on the field. There are down efficiency at 42%. Like you're on the field. Yeah. Justin: We were six of 14. They were six of 16, whatever. Total yards about the same but not really big deal. And yeah, we had all those sacks, which is big. Jake: And I really think the story is those turnovers because if you looked at when they were in the game and I'm slowly remembering the game from a week ago, they were always at big points where like, if they had gone up and got that, hadn't been turnover, they were getting points off of it somewhere, either a field goal or touchdown. It was huge breaking for them. And it just kept breaking our way each time. And it's great. I mean, it's awesome. But like that that turn, that game, those three turnovers and maybe there's probably one surrounding the one. Justin: Well, there's the one weird one, which

09:02 Justin: Stripped the ball from him, right? I think one of them stripped it and the other they were both there one of them stripped it He was shit in the beginning of the year, but good job to coat. Good job on the coaches. Good job on the team jelling together. That defense fucking loves each other. Yeah. Really, really enjoy the game is the dance. Oh, there's a dog. There's dog. Play the games, dancing, just dancing anything. Jett's defense dancing is just the best. Jake: I mean, I have played that a hundred times. Every time I'm feeling bad or whatever, I just play that on. I love the Christmas version. That's the one that gets me the most. The original version is great. Not peanuts? No, that's not the one. But the Christmas version is the one I just laugh every time. And it's so funny. And all the level of them, again, Justin: When you're there, it's great too, it pumps you up. It's really awesome. Jake: I'm trying to not be, this is the trap, this is the fits trap from two years ago, where you're like, this team's supposed to suck, then they start doing well, then you start to see good things, and they start to over-perform where they thought this is exactly what happened to fits, and I'm just like, I'm trying to keep like. You know, trying to keep playoff thoughts out of my mind. I'm trying to be like, don't just don't just don't just enjoy this game. Don't I know. But I started to think about. I mean, anything else from the game, it was just a really good dominating game. And I think and harken back to our game. We played against them two years ago on Thursday last year. No, two years ago. Justin: Two years. No. Last year. Beginning of last year. Jake: We got we got beat and. It was good. It was good on a short week going into a going to a minibuy and then a game and then a real buy It was just what the doctor ordered. I Don't know who you want to give your your play the game play the game and nay the game Justin: Well, I kind of just gave my play the game away. I know the dancing obviously Know the the strip of the tight end because that was an awesome play And then player of the game. Yeah, player of the game I think it I'm tough because this was a really just. all around good effort by everybody. Player of the game. Really tough, really, really. I'm going to give it to Forte because we had a good game. OK, we ran the ball. Well, good average. Got some tough yards caught the ball just scored twice. It's you just get a end zone Jake: It's all the game for me. And it's the guy who was just like It's kind of a great story It's like a guy we drafted then kind of let go and coming back and he's playing like better than he ever played before Is Davis like he is playing better. He's a leader too. Yeah, he just looks excited. I'm excited

12:01 Jake: He's happy out there and I feel like he Oh you welcome back like welcome back tomorrow Davis. Here's what here's what we thought you were gonna be and now you are that guy One year was it the Browns? Yeah Justin: We traded Calvin prior for a move Jake: I don't know where he is just like locking the dog outside of your door, door event when it's any so happy Justin: So like wedding because he didn't play well the first time we played them right when McCoy went nuts And now he's sort of the defense is really coming together and you can see that there are big time leadership qualities and in some of the guys that we have out there. Jake: I mean, if you look at the there's like a couple players that they're playing above where we well, some of their playing up to where we thought they'd play some are playing way above. Austin Saverian Jenkins, although he got robbed on a fucking touchdown, that there was no reason to take that back. He has played the second time, second time this year. He has played way above where we thought he was. Mo Wilk has now come around. He's like playing that dominating guys. Where were you, Mo? Because he's he's dominating the line screen. He's getting the backfill. He's touching these guys and hitting them and knocking them down. And then really, I think the story of the year so far is Robby Anderson. Like he's he we thought this like, you know, understood or free agent that we pick up. Justin: It's like, well, you got thrown to the fire as the number one receiver. And I think it's clear he's I don't think we have a number one receiver. We don't have we don't have. Jake: Well, we don't have a go to AJ Green. Justin: We don't have. Well, forget that. Like we don't have a talent. a guy who has the talent to be a number one receiver. So that's just that. The system that we run also doesn't. It doesn't feature anybody, right? There's no featured receiver. I mean, I think I think Saffarian Jenkins leads the team receptions. Maybe. But you've got a bunch of guys who are all. from a talent perspective, fairly the same, but have slightly different skill sets. Like Curly's more of a slot guy, sneaky, get open. Robby Anderson's clearly just a fast guy. He kind of hits once a game on a play down the sideline for touchdowns. It's totally working. But isn't that good coaching? Like take what you got and make make it right. Yeah, and it's working though Jake: But that's working that that I feel like that's the thing that I'd see fits do and like he would miss him or be overthrown Or under thrown or be a pick. It's working Anyway, so great game. Let's let's move on. What else we got to talk about? Oh who impressed we talked about that play the game talk about that injuries So I guess, I guess Forte's hurt. Didn't see that coming. Justin: Yeah, I know. It's weird because I didn't see it coming either, but it happened. Jake: Uh, yeah. I guess we go around the kingdom.

15:01 Justin: Sure. My favorite segment. Jake: I know your favorite segment. I got to get to the actual week. This is week nine. Justin: Yeah. Jake: Okay. So we had our game, which is Thursday night. Again, I didn't see any of the games, so maybe I'll be asking questions that I don't. I'll try my best to chime in. Justin: I didn't see a lot but I did see. I saw some football. Jake: We know that Deshaun Watson goes out for the season. They put in Tom Savage is real. And they lose to the Colts. Justin: That is heartbreaking. Jake: Why are the Texans not signing Kaepernick? Justin: racism okay excellent I don't actually have a better answer cuz Tom Savage is not better than Colin Kaepernick like I could say like I don't think Colin Kaepernick's that great right like I don't think he's if he's not gonna start you probably don't want him on your team if you're like worried about like other shit like I don't really care to have him on the Jets to me he's just another dude on the Jets who doesn't need to be on the jet. I he is more talented than anybody else on our team. It's just raw, more raw talent. I'm not saying he's better. I think for what we're doing, not necessarily, but that's fine. He's probably better than Petty and Hagenberg, but I don't think he's a starter. But the Texans should be looking to make the playoffs with the roster that they have. And they should not be playing Tom Savage. Jake: Jaguars. It's the Bengals Bengals look like Poop they are poop and beat them 23 7 well the Jaguars have a real defense their defense is real Justin: Right there there's a fight in that game Jalen Ramsey and AJ Green got into that's true. That was a good one. Jalen Ramsey's turning into one of the best corners in the league Jake: And he was the first rounder wasn't he? Justin: Last year. Right. This is his second year. He was like fourth or fifth overall. Jake: Saints go against the Bucs. Bucs lose James Winston I think for the next couple weeks. We'll talk about that when we get to our game. Saints beat them 30 to 10. Justin: Fitsy steps in. Does it fits? Jake: Does it fits? Do you think the Saints playoff bound? They might win that division. Yeah, I think they will. Yeah, that's crazy Justin: We get to see them was it going week 15 that game that we thought was we were gonna have to win Jake: They were game wins. We're it's gonna be a good game. Yeah, I think that's exciting Giant this is the one I didn't know Giants get absolutely embarrassed. Oh my god fire a macadoo now. I have no question. Why haven't they fired back to do? Justin: because they want to keep losing. I actually can't come up with a better answer. Jake: 51 17. Justin: I can't come up with a better answer. They already had their buy. They come off their buy, get embarrassed. That I mean, the time to fire them was before the buy. But they they announced yesterday that they're not making a coaching decision until the end of the ownership. Jake: The ownership that ownership is very. Justin: They know they're not going anywhere and things in midseason. No, they don't that's not what they do And they they know where their seasons ending at this point. So they're just gonna let it roll. What one win so far

18:02 Justin: Yeah, yeah, again they're gonna be a top five pick and They'll try to pick the guy to replace Eli and probably maybe get like Panthers beat the Falcons Which I again that's a game. I didn't know anything about what the Falcons aren't that good. We let him off the hook We we let him off the hook. We missed you field goals and muffed a punt inside the 10. We let him off the hook They're not that good Jake: I'm looking at the Panthers game into three weeks or whatever it is as being kind of like I'm not worried about them Should we be worried about the Panthers? Justin: All depends on Cam. You hit him a couple times, he's not the same player. Jake: Eagles put up a 51 bird against the Broncos. Justin: They're good. Jake: Eagles are super good. Justin: They're good. They're the best team in the NFL. Now I'm ready to say it. You asked me like three weeks ago, are you ready to say the Eagles are the best team in the NFL? I wasn't. Now it's pretty clear. Jake: Could be the best team in the NFL. No. Why? What's missing from their team? Justin: I think there's three teams in the AFC that are better than them. Who? New England, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh. Jake: Oh, I don't think so. I think- I think all three of those teams are better than- You are what your record says you are. They have the best record. I think they're- I know. I think they're the best team. Justin: They're not playing a first place schedule. Jake: I think they have an incredible playback. Justin: They're playing in a division with the Giants. Jake: I don't think they'll make the Super Bowl. Here's why. Justin: Yeah, it's tough to do it with the second year. Like the first time around, the first time in is you're learning. You gotta learn. That's right. Then you make the Super Bowl. Jake: I don't think he can go all the way. I mean, they'll probably get a buy. Justin: It's like Seattle. Like Russell Wilson, they made the playoffs their first year. They did not make the Super Bowl and then they did. Jake: Ravens lose to the Titans. Looks like a boring game. I have no idea what ever about that. Who cares? 49ers keep on the streak lose the Cardinals. Yeah, who just lost last night to the Seahawks. That's right Who both look terrible Justin: Thursday night, it's rough Jake: And play great Justin: Seattle, we're on's, Road teams don't often look good. They they they didn't start Garoppolo. No, they did not right. I know I would imagine they'd start him this week Jake: I've heard they might not start him all season. Why would why? Justin: Don't you need to see him? He's a free agent. They're talking about not starting it. He's a free agent Don't you need to see I don't know it's the dumbest thing ever that it's dumber than what we're doing Jake: Seahawks lose and I think bad fashion to the red Redskins, right? It wasn't like a last-minute thing Go down the field for score touchdown like her cousin's crazy one her cousin's baby But now they won last night like that you like that you like that, but they're four and four I don't feel like they're going there also missing field goals too and then the Cowboys how about them Cowboys? I think the Cowboys I think they're I mean I know it's Justin: Then it was a Zeke for just lost them war or six weeks Well could be four supposed to be six but they won't listen to him again for four for four Don't listen no come here you again in for Jake: Vulnerable other cheese vulnerable. No, I think they're really good six and three

21:00 Jake: Really good is eight and one six and three. They've lost schedule, man Toughed division schedule be I don't know. I feel like they're vulnerable Dolphins lose to the Raiders. There you go. There's a four and five team and a four and four team Jesus. Thank thank God Justin: I think we let them off the hook to shit. We should be like we've got a lot of these teams off the hook man Jake: Yeah, she'd be like six and packers and you're Brett Huntley. I Brett Hunley lose Hunley I'm not gonna memorize name is too terrible to memorize name lose to the Lions Justin: We'll be right back to you. Jake: Ooh, six booger. You got to six. That's probably racist. I got a 10. And I had the best of the week. Wow, you're pulling ahead. 10. I had the best of the week. Shit. You're just pulling ahead. And I have no, someone tied me. Must have gotten the tiebreaker. You know, never do the tiebreaker's reel. I just picked it. Maybe they're just popping numbers.,. Wow, I'm just trying to win a game, actually picked, and got a 10 last week. He has 29 29 or here she has 29 wins over the season. So like what did they can't have picked all those weeks. That's insane. No, last week. Anyway, I already have a one burger up there. You already have a zero. That's right. It's, uh, August yet is now leading leading at 74 rebuild mode right behind. I'm at 70 with Gareth caught up to Gareth. Fuck you Gareth. And you are down in the dumps. How far are you? Justin: Ohhh, I'm probably the worst actually played game. Oh the guy behind you picked. Eight? Jake: Everybody picked except for the cool name team who has picked like only three weeks. Okay, so let's get to this week's. Did I pick this week? Yes I did. I won last night. Justin: All right, good for you. So let's go. Jake: Oh, so we're going to do Jet Kingdom. We're in Jet Kingdom to pick them. That's where we pick on the Yahoo platform, which you can join next year. And we avoid the AFC East, because we make that our throne picks. And then we pick our keys to the castle and beating whatever insert team name here. Go, Justin. Right on. You

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