Free Agency Frenzy
March 15, 2012 · 32:14 · Actual Jets news: we break down the Mark Sanchez contract extension and the cap room it frees up, plus the latest free agency moves.
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Opening
Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women.
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00:09 Jake: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Get away! Get back! Get back! Get back! Get back! Get back! Get back! Welcome to the Jhin Kingdom body. the longest running New York Jets podcast on the interwebs. My name is Jake and joining me for the 140 second time in the craziness that is March Madness. And the bracket... oh wait, wrong. Wrong sport. Joining me for the 140 second time is Justin. Justin, how are you doing? I'm doing well. We're in the midst of a free agency frenzy. So frenzy. And so I thought we would get together in the middle of the week here and pump out a little what's been going on and maybe some opinions and we got some, we actually have some Jets news as we promised. If it was just news, we would come in. So we have some. We do. So let's get started. We have an agenda. Let's just talk about it. Justin: Let's just go. All right. you Why don't we start with the quarterback? The quarterback situation. Where we always start. Jake: Yes, so the Jets re-signed or extended the contract of Mark, one Mark Sanchez, a friend of the podcast, Mark Sanchez, and basically as I take it, and I've read it over a couple times, as I take it, it's three more years. and they basically freed up room this year from the cap but his guaranteed money went up to $2 million. So as I explain to people, the haters or Patriots fans, like, oh, we only have three more years for Sanchez, I say, listen, we only owe him two more million dollars and we freed up five million for this year. So we have more money to play with this year. and we only owe him 2 million more in guaranteed money. So net net is a 2 million dollar bet that the organization's 2 million dollar bet that we get 5 million more to spend this year. Justin: I think it's a good deal. Thoughts? Yeah it's fine. I mean anything that gives us more space on a year-to-year basis is a good thing. I think it's good for him. His confidence like... hey, we talked to Manning, we sort of had to, where you are the guy, we're gonna give you the money, we believe in you, don't really care what anyone else says, you're guaranteed for another year, so you're not a lame duck this year with all that pressure over your head. This was the last year of guaranteed money, which it was, then he's got. additional added pressure of having to perform at a really high level knowing that his job could be gone at the end of the year so now he doesn't have that and it basically just solidified you're the guy and we're you know we're doing
03:02 Justin: this to make you feel like you're the guy and it's gonna help us because it's gonna give us some money to put some more pieces around you that are necessary. Right, we it's a it's a we believe in you Sanchez and again the fans are very split on this not in this podcast from this one. No we like Sanchez. I like him I want and I can't wait for him to do great things so we can all go. I told you so. Yeah I can't wait till that I told you so. I can't wait till I told you so. But um. screenshotted instant messages from people. just so you can... Just so I could send them back to them. Wow. Ha ha ha. Hopefully you don't have to wait too long to send them back to them. So that was sort of the start of it. We did that a couple days before the agency started. This happened like the day we did our last podcast. Yeah, it did. In the afternoon, later on in the evening. So we missed it by like a few hours. Otherwise we would have had that. We've also re-signed Nick Folk. Look. Those people we've actually signed. Well, we've signed Nick Folk, we've signed Sione Puah. Okay, three year deal for Puah. Yep. Thoughts? Great. Yeah. Needed him. Needed him. Needed him. More valuable to us than anyone else. Resigned him. It's great. In this defense, need a guy like that. In the middle, he's a little old, but he really didn't. get who was old well that's the thing you don't realize he's 33 because he didn't he was his rookie year he was like 26 oh he didn't play a lot either so he's a young 33 he doesn't have a lot of wear and tear he actually really didn't play a lot until Rex Ryan came in and said this guy's good you could have bet me a lot of money on that I know I would have that 29 well I would bet 20 years a third round pick way back I want to say he was picked in either Mangini's first year or Herms last year or something like that. So yeah Puah resigned, Brian Thomas resigned, which I think we this is a good sign to me. We are learning some lessons from last year because you know what we did last year? We took glue guys. that keep the chemistry in the locker room and keep the continuity from one year to the next. You know we thought continuity was gonna be key in the strike shortened offseason with coaching and quarterback. It turns out it was key everywhere. Like everywhere everywhere. And we got rid of some guys that We, in hindsight, should not have let go. We let them go as free agents or cut them or what have you. Guys that were important leaders in the locker room. And if we were to let Pu'a, and in this case, Brian Thomas, who knows the defense, who's a fine. He's coming off an Achilles surgery, but it's a low risk. high reward re-sign where a guy knows the defense is better than McIntyre or Westerman or whomever else is gonna be out there instead of him he's better than those guys and and let you know let Maben be the third down guy so I like
06:00 Justin: the re-signing it's definitely learning from our mistakes from last year with that re-signing and with the Pu'a re-signing because these are strong leaders in the locker room that bring something else to the table aside from what they're doing on the field And we lost that last year, which is why we're flirting with Jericho Cottree because that was one of the guys Oh, you forgot that before we've you said Nick. I'm talking about the people we actually thought whatever that is Jake: It's not whatever I think listen Weatherford could have been or whatever last year if you would sign if we had signed weatherford again, you probably gone Oh whatever punter I that looking back Mistake yeah, but Nick folks not that good like weatherford was good I don't think he was as good as we I don't think he was as good as we thought he was until he was on Another team doing that's untrue for our Justin: anyone who When you watch the Jets and you understood what they were about defense ball control field position The punters who could pin you inside the 20 which is what Steve Wettiford can do really really well very important our punter this year is not as good um i don't think he'll be back but so whatever he's fine he's a kicker right we'll have another kicker in camp challenging him someone will win the job whatever um going back to that whole continuity thing we are flirting with Jericho Kottry yeah That was a guy who? Was missed he he's not the greatest receiver in the world, but he was a quiet leader in the locker room He had a stability about him that Mark Sanchez trusted him in the slot on third down He knew he could throw it to him He didn't have a great ear in Pittsburgh didn't really get a shot cuz in that Until we not in that wide receiver court. He was like number five, right? So it was like, you know, I don't even know why he signed there with all the receivers they had But until he got a shot and then when he did he actually played really well. We know he's a gamer He's a gamer. He plays well in big games. He played well against the pads all the time, right? So if they could sign him, I'd be pretty happy about it. I think that's another low-risk high reward signing We're pretty thin at wide receiver right now, which is why we're bringing in Chaz Schillens from Oakland Yeah, kind of a bust. It's a bust in Oakland. He's a big dude He's tied to our wide receiver coach So we have a new wide receiver coach this year who was Oakland's wide receivers coach So they're tied they're tied there. So I guess he knows them, right? He would come in and be the problem is we really are looking for a number two, right? When in reality We don't even have a one Like you can say Holmes is a one, but I don't really think he is. He's not a traditional number one receiver. Like he's not tall. He's not big. So like we need a tall guy out there. Like what Plaxco is sort of supposed to give us. I think we should just sign Braille and Edwards.
09:00 Justin: Bring the bring the gang back together. Bring the game. The guy has got to the guys. One game. It's like I know he was hurt a lot last year, but. Why wouldn't they just bring him back? Like they could get him cheaper now Jake: Yeah, then what they were like a million bucks last year something ridiculous Justin: You could sign him for that this year like I don't see a reason why you wouldn't bring him back and Khatri back and just have that They were fine. There was nothing wrong with that With curly in the mix Nice little mix there. Yeah So that's sort of the jet news unless I'm missing something. Yeah, the other one is sort of looking at quarterbacks So Chad Henny is off. I think he's got a job. He's in Jacksonville. All right, he's not in Jacksonville I will bet you money. He's their starter by week six If watching Just it was in my head now. It's gone Blaine gabber. Yeah, Blaine gabber is any in the game here's so here's the thing Yeah? He stinks! Who? Blaine Gabbard. Okay. Even on his first year you're gonna say he stinks? He stinks. Yeah. Because you can watch him and see like wow he's like scared like he's scared. Let's put it that way. Right. So you know all those who want to say our young quarterback stinks. Watch him. He stinks. He's scared. He's scared to get hit. He's scared, he can't make any throws. So I would be surprised if Chad Henny's not their starter by week seven. Unless Gabbard steps up and improves a whole lot, you never know. He's got some way to go. They obviously like something about him. But yeah, so far no, I think everybody's looking for is the help at safety. And I know there's- Hasn't happened yet. Yeah, it hasn't happened yet. There's a lot to talk to. Lots of different people, but let's talk about the AFC East and what's going on there. Lots is happening in the AFC East, so why don't we start with the Bills of all teams that are making the mega push to sign the guy, the free agent. Probably the number one free agent. The number one free agent, Mario Williams. First visit to the bills hasn't visited anywhere else. They got him to stay an extra day Yeah I was reading a lot of articles about like here's what you want to do when you're trying to sign a free agent You get them to come visit you and you don't let them leave till he signs right? You don't literally don't let them leave keep them overnight Take them to the greatest restaurant set up a table at the 50 yard line and order something steak and put him out there and light it up and put his pictures all over the stadium like do whatever you have to do don't let him leave the city without signing the contract and they haven't let him leave. Yeah it sounds like it's getting close Jake: and they're kind of saying that they're gonna Justin: And if it's a couple extra million dollars, you throw it at them. Because this for the bills is enormous. Yeah, they have lacked a pass rush for... I'm just trying to think of the amount of years. For a while. They haven't had a marquee person sign with the bills in a long, long time.
12:02 Jake: But don't you think that has something to do with the bills? Like, it's the neighborhood, it's the location, it's the team, it's the market. It's the division you're going you're going to the worst team in the division that has been the worst team division for five years in a row Justin: Here's the thing about so first off. I believe in the NFL Market doesn't mean anything. It's flat it Really really is like the NFL is so Ubiquitous across the nation that the market that unless it's New York is sort of irrelevant. Like, everybody gets the same sort of limelight if you're sort of across the board. Jake: Like, there are teams that get blacked out in their own state. People at home can't even watch them. That's not even true. The Jaguars and Panthers, you can't, if you live down there, there's two games a year you can't even see. That's not it. That's not it. That's totally relevant. Justin: But that's not... that's just there. Like that's locally. Like nationally. Jake: The builds are a team that sold out one of their games to go up to Toronto once a year. Everybody... those fans don't like. Yeah, but that is a... but that is a... Justin: That is a really good... football town. Like if you're just looking at like the fan base in the town and playing but there's a difference to being filling Green Bay does it matter that Green Bay is in Green Bay, Wisconsin? That could be in West bubble nut nowhere, but Green Bay has Championships Green Bay has some of the players that people talk about yeah, but the market the market yeah the market of Green Bay Yeah take all that other shit and throw it out the window, right, the market of Green Bay is way smaller than Buffalo. I mean, Buffalo's shit. Jake: But their overall value as a team is much, much better. Justin: It has nothing to do with the market. It does have to do with the market. Well, it doesn't, because Green Bay's a non-existent market. Jake: Because it's an international market. I'm not talking local market, I'm talking international market. That's right. Bills are not an international market. But it could be, because Green Bay is. No, we can't be because they're bad owners or a bad owner who doesn't spend a lot of money who keeps it kind of marginalized Justin: Well, I don't think that's I don't think that I don't think that they have a bad owner I mean, that's that's not true. But but I Mean it the the market the location doesn't actually matter as much in the NFL, I feel. But either way, no big free agent in my recollection has said I'm signing with Buffalo. Like I haven't remembered them. Like to me, the biggest thing that they've done
15:03 Justin: in the last 10 years was a trade for Bledsoe. Right. That was a big deal. They signed like Takeo Spikes. Whatever. Like... Jake: It's true. They don't they don't this would be a big agents very well a because I don't think they're willing to put the money down for it and be There I think they're willing to pay Part of being a free agent and making a city is you are a free agent you get to make the decision where you want And where you start to look paying is one thing but and guys want to be paid for everybody knows but also there's something about the team you're going to and we've heard stories of teams you know whining and going to their training facility the place that you know oh yeah show them the stadium that's the place you'll spend three hours a week. Actually three hours a week for only eight games. Right? Eight times a year. But here, here's this place you'll spend six days a week all the time. 12 hours a day. Right? So there are other things and I don't that I know that affect it. You know, where they're gonna live. Where they're gonna... What's around them when they're off duty. I mean all that stuff about a job. There's the three hours in the game, but then there's everything else. And I know that Jets have been much better at free agency since the new stadium. They've been much better at the new free agency since they built that new the new health center, the Atlantic Health Center, because it gives them kind of a look. We have state of the art stuff here. We're in it. We're serious. We have a brand new stadium, 1.7 billion dollars. It's, you know, it's amazing we're gonna host the Olympics like all that stuff helps the story you go to Buffalo and it's like here's our store here's our stadium from fucking way fucking back I'm sure their training facilities are as old here's our 1972 treadmill and I think that that affects their their free agency power because money is one thing But all that other stuff... Money's the biggest thing. Justin: Yeah, but everybody's capped at money, so... Yeah, but if you're offering... You can't offer $20 million more. If you're offering more... Yeah? You're basically gonna win. Uh... I don't know. I've never heard of somebody being offered more and taking less. No, I have. I have to think back on it. But there have been people who have... Not like a free agent who's going to a new team. It's not like he's taking less from Houston. Because he's not going to Houston. He's not going back to Houston. I've never heard of a Mario Williams, you know, look at Albert Hainsworth. He went to the fucknut Washington Redskins debacle. Right. Why'd he go there? Because they paid him the most money. Right, but then he went to the Patriots and I didn't pay him a lot of money and he went there because he thought he could win. He got traded there. Oh, sorry, I got traded. He didn't pick that. He wasn't no free agent. They didn't cut him. He went for the money. Guys go for the money. Because you only get basically one shot. You get your rookie deal, you prove yourself. then you get one shot. All right, let's keep going.
18:00 Justin: That's all you get. Do you think you'll end up in the Bills? I kind of do. I don't. I don't really mind either. Just for all these reasons, I don't think you will. But okay. A great player, you know, whatever. I don't really care. I don't think it makes that much of a difference. That is D-Brick. Well, he lines up on the other side a lot. So anyway, the Dolphins, they traded Marshall. Yep. And so we'll start there. Yeah. So they traded Marshall to the Bears for two number threes. I don't really get football trades. No, but still don't. So two years ago they traded for Marshall for a one. I wanted to. Something like that. And now two years later he's worth two threes. Well, you know, three days ago he got arrested. And then he got arrested, right. Three days ago he got arrested for hitting some woman in... in New York City. Yeah, apparently they knew about it. Yeah, no, they hadn't know about it But I mean that's why I think his value went from this guy who might get suspended Like he might not be able to play for a games. So I think his value went from Being the good the really good receiver is to being the guy who like, you know It's kind of like picking up homes. We picked up homes for a four or five Jake: Yeah, we picked up homes for four or five Super Bowl MVP winning wide receiver but this has been for four games. Yeah. So I think that's sort of where this is going. Justin: Supposedly, I have a friend who's a Bears fan. Okay, sorry. Poor soul. We commiserate together. Yeah. This is the first time they've had a number one receiver, a true like number one receiver since the 60s. Really? And the first time they've had a real quarterback. in color since Sonny Jurgenson. Like they've never had a combination like this in the modern era of football. When they went to the Super Bowl, five, six years ago, Rex Grossman. Grossman, who was the hard receiver? Couldn't even tell you. Okay, so it was never. Jake: So it's interesting for the fans, I think that's a loss for them. Some of the rumors were they got rid of a lot of cap space. Justin: 15 million to free up to go for the Manning Bowl. There is also the rumor that Manning didn't want to play with this malcontent in Marshall. But Marshall and Cutler played together in Denver and had great season. Yeah. Or two together. Great. So whatever. I think Marshall out of the division. Fantastic. Yes. Vincent Jackson out of the conference. Fantastic. Yeah, I mean we happen to have the guy who could cover these guys But if he can cover the next guy and then the next guy could cover the third like all Jake: Stevie Johnson would have gotten out of this Justin: All good for us and then the paths seems like they're standing pat they were going to make a we didn't make a we are The L' Oran Landry. Because one of them that we're also talking to, the guy from the Bears, Merriweather, was a pats. He was on the pats at the beginning of the season.
21:03 Justin: Last year, and they cut him. So I don't think we should end up with that guy. Because why do we want that? Alright, let's talk about some big signings. What's your big signings for this so far? Well Megatron got the biggest deal ever. 132 million something like that? With like 60 some odd guarantees. Supposedly these numbers that come out aren't really real though. Right. Cause they can, it was kind of like the Donovan McNabb $50 million extension that wasn't real. All right, better deal. Jake: Calvin Johnson, eight years for 132. Laurent Robinson, five years for 33.2. Or Deshaun Jackson to the Eagles. from the entire globet. Same thing for five years for no. Oh, they actually signed him for 51 million So Calvin Johnson and 32 for eight Laurent for 32 to five Justin: 32 five and Deshaun for 51 for five years The only one that I can think of that is a truly standout player on his own outside of the system is Megatron Yeah, no, absolutely because the other guys I think Laurent Robinson was a product of being in a Cowboys offense that is a good passing offense and being the third option. So, I mean, I know he played a lot at number two because there were a lot of injuries, but he was on many a team before that and did nothing, got cut. And Deshawn Jackson is just... He's a malcontent who can do one thing run straight fast. Piero Gossan goes to Redskins for five years 42.5 million. Insane. That is insane. Guy can't even catch. What could you Piero Gossan? Guy can't even catch. Jake: Umm let's see other news Vincent Jackson five years 55.6 million to the Bucks who had the biggest They had the biggest cap space going into the... Justin: So that's one that you can look at and say, oh, okay, that one I could compare to the Megatron and say, oh, maybe that was... Because Vixie Jackson's pretty good. He is pretty good. I think he was on one of your fantasy teams. No. I think he was on another one. Jake: But his production was never double digit, was never like... Yeah, it was. He never had two touchdowns in the game. Oh well maybe this past year. Yeah and yeah who was his quarterback? Phil Rivers. And now he's going Justin: to play for Josh Freeman. Who's, which is better? Phil Rivers. Yeah by a huge margin. Also with the past happy. I don't know. Yeah I mean I don't know who the offensive coach is for the box. But I know it's not. I don't know. This is Jackson was a malcontent there. He's he's he's he's He stood out that one year or whatever. He's there losing a lot of players, San Diego Yeah, I don't know what they lost him. They were losing Tolbert. They lost McNeil who's a left tackle So they were placing a lot of guys the Chargers replacement with Robert Meacham who's not a number one receiver Yeah, that's kind of interesting Peyton Hillis goes to KC Interesting. Nice little thunder and lightning action and Jamal Charles can come back. Dwight Lowry we signed with the Jags. Four year deal.
24:00 Justin: Kind of wish we had him back. I know. We were not, we did not give a shit when he left I will say. He's going to play safety for us now. I know. Well, we'll just look back and how much we missed him. The guy I really wanted actually signed with the Chargers, Jared Johnson. Kyle Orton goes to Cowboys, makes sense. Back up. They didn't have a backup. Last year it was, or two years ago, when they lost. Still Kittna. Yes, Kittna. John Kittna. You're not winning with Kittna. Nope. They needed someone because we've almost gotten hurt a couple years ago. And Campbell signed with the Bears because they got bit by losing Cutler at the end of the... I mean they had... They lost Cutler after game 10 with 6 games left and they were 7 and 3. And they looked like one of the best teams in the league. And then Cutler went down and I don't know if they won one more game. Maybe they won a couple more. But it wasn't good. Taylor Paney, no good. So, biggest deal you think so far? The one that you're kinda like... The best deal you think that you've seen so far? Well I guess Megatron's a re-sign so that one doesn't really count. Yeah, it's a deal. Megatron, I mean that's enormous for Detroit. It means we're real, we won last year, we're winning team now, we're going to continue to win, we're going to re-sign our guys. And worst deal? I think that Pierre Garcon deal is awful. I just don't think he's any good. it because when you think about it what he did with Peyton Manning, it wasn't even that great. They have some advanced stats on catch rate and how often a guy catches the ball when it's thrown to him. And it was at 52%, and the league average was 56%. And every other receiver on the Colts with Peyton Manning was at 65%. So that's how bad he was. Catching the ball when it was thrown to him which is really what a receiver is paid to do catch the ball when it's thrown through So that was a bad one to me Jake: All right And the last bit of news before we sign off because unless something else pops in is the Manning Bowl It is down to four teams because Miami's still one of them. Miami's still one of them. So your prediction is Justin: Arizona still. Yeah, although I did find out something. My prediction was Arizona based on the facts that I knew. Here's what I didn't know. Jake: Arizona started the free agency 20 something million dollars over the cap. Justin: Oh, I didn't know that. If I had known that. They had to cut a lot of guys. So they would have had to cut a lot. Jake: I think it was down to four. So it was down to Denver, Miami, Titans. Justin: Tennessee and Arizona. Did you see the quotes from the owner of the Titans? Yeah, it's like, I will do anything. All I want you to do, your job is to make Peyton Manning on our team. That's all I care about. That's all I want. That's the owner saying that. So how do you not just go get that? How do you not just go make that happen? Titans make sense now. Jake: I mean again AFC, Titans AFC, Titans... He wants to be in the AFC. It's in his division, so there's a point of he knows the other teams in the division and he can play with them.
27:04 Jake: He plays the Colts for twice a year. At this point, with the amount of people they've lost in the Colts and they're about to start a rookie quarterback, I want to play the Colts twice a year. Justin: They re-signed Reggie Wayne. Jake: Yeah, who's 34 years old. Justin: Yeah, whatever. They re-signed him. Jake: But they got this little young guy coming in. Justin: They got rid of Dallas Clark. They got rid of Garcon. They got rid of Dye. They already have a lot of guys. I think they're basically starting over. Jake: Right, but if I'm Peyton Manning and I want to win in the next couple years, I'd like to go to the division where I'm going to play the team that's starting over. Yeah, why not? Because they're not going to win a lot of games. Like, they could do okay. That's why I don't want them on the Titans. Justin: Why? Because we have to play them? I think we played the Titans this year. Actually, I think we played that whole division this year. I think we did too. So, whatever. Whatever. Jake: Miami still there, but again, he never went to Miami. I don't want him there. Well, he never actually went, so he's gone to Titan. Justin: I don't want him there. I don't want him in our division. Like I said, NFC, go out, go out, Tarzan. I think Cardinals, he visited Cardinals, and then I think the other one, the other one is really the interesting one, which is Denver. I actually want him to go to Denver. That's the one. that the... after a week of sort of hearing what's going on, to me, makes the most sense right now. For him or just for the world? Him and the world. So for him, he gets to go play in the AFC. Yep. That's tight too, but okay. He wants to... I think he'll want to stay in the AFC because he knows the conference. Like three of those four teams were in AFC. Right. So... He gets to go to a place that they won their division last year in the weak division. That division is not good. He gets to go and play on the team that's run by John L.A. One of the only GMs in the league, probably the only one that he can look at eye to eye and say, okay. you and I get each other. You're legend, you've won Super Bowls, been MVP, I'm the same thing. I get you. And another point that someone else brought up, I can't remember who it was, was saying Peyton Manning seems like the kind of guy that would want to do what Elway's doing. run a team right in the future right and What better place to go and like learn it sort of from the same guy? Wow, that's an abstraction and They have these really good brunch places on their ready there If they had a if they had a real quarterback that team would win. They have a good coach They have a good offensive line that good running game. They have good receivers that can't show what they're worth because their quarterback can't throw. Like that's a team that's ready to win. Yeah, so I want him to go there because I think that's the biggest clusterfuck. Like you have the TiVo, you have the son of Jesus who actually plays football. Right? This is the only guy that they could ever bring in that. It would be okay to toss him to the curb. No, yes, it would be if it's not they can't toss
30:03 Justin: We're not gonna toss. We're gonna keep him then they've got the T-bow package. No, I think they'd trade him I don't think it's enough value. I honestly don't think he has enough value for what? Whatever you can get Rosary beats Whatever you can get not they're talking about value is of is nothing if he's just sitting on the sideline And he can't come in and run the offense that you have to have what they're talking about doing it Jake: They're not saying trade, they're saying use him, because he's under contract, for some reason to get rid of him. The value is not, but to use him for what he's good at, Justin: the packages, right, for him. Oh, I would never, if I had Peyton Manning, I'm not taking him out of the game. This is why I wanted to go there, because I think it's a clusterfuck. Jake: It's a great season, we can talk about all season, because I know right around, what happens with Peyton? Because we've seen when he's been hurt, like when he was hurt in preseason, he came out and he's a little rusty. See? Like those first couple games, like, what happens if Peyton's a little rusty on the first, like, three or four games? It could be fun. Yeah, I want the fun factor. Justin: Alright, let's- Jet Kingdom has him going to Denver. I want him to go to Denver, just for the- We have flip-flopped. Just for the- We have him in Denver. Just for the clusterfuckness of it. We have him in Denver. Yeah, he's going to Denver. Jake: I- that would be fucking funny. Um, alright, well that's it. Uh, I think that's it for us. Do we have anything else? We'll come back next week. Yeah, we'll come back. There'll be more stuff. There'll be more stuff next week. All right. Well, until next week, head to JetKingdom.com, subscribe to iTunes, go to Twitter, do all that fun stuff that we know you love to do. Justin: You can follow us all, of course, at JetKingdom or just JetKingdom. We will be tweeting as we hear. Jake: But until next week, and as we always say at the end of the 142nd episode, go Jets!