Rookie Revolution

October 18, 2012 · 36:12 · Patriots week. We cover the news, the Jet Kingdom Fantasy League, our Pick'em for every game, the newly renamed AFC East Throne Picks, and the Keys to the Castle for Jets vs. Pats.
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Opening
Onan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they get a lamentation of their women.
Transcript
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00:09 Jake: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Get away! Welcome to the Jekking Podcast, while I'm just running near Jest Podcast. I'm his jig and we're back on a Wednesday because we have a game. Oh Thursday, it's a Thursday, because we have a game tomorrow, tonight. Justin: Oh man, I'm way off. Jake: I am totally fucked. What is wrong with you? Hey Justin, nice to see you too. Fuck you. Good job. Way to start off the podcast. Alright, well we got some stuff we... You... We went over everything of the game last week on Monday because we won. Woo woo. 3-3. Pushed in 500. Problem is we're going up against the Pats this week. So let's get into the news of the week. We have news. We can talk about the Jet Kingdom Fantasy League. We'll do our pick them of every game. We'll do our throne picks of the I'm calling this. I'm now renaming this the AFC East throne picks. I'm just saying. And then we're going to do Jets versus Pats. Keys of the Kingdom. Predictions. away we go so let's kick it off with the news of the week give it to me. Injuries injuries injuries so a lot of running back situation injuries so Powell and McKnight both reportedly out for plural weeks so we won't see them on the field. Not sure who the third down back's gonna be maybe this Grimes guy that we grimy grimy dude that I'm good Could use a little Danny Woodhead right about now Hurts me so bad John Connor has been released So there's this thing about injury release kind of thing. Yeah, it didn't make any sense I read the article hard for me to understand. I never heard of this. We came to a settlement Never never heard of this rule before he's a free agent anyone can sign him, but we can't sign him till later in the year, apparently. Like, we can't re-sign him tomorrow. So why, what, so what happened? He's injured and he obviously is not as good as we thought he was, the Terminator, because he hasn't played and can't really say it matters. We signed Lex Hilliard who was with Sprounham and Miami. Clearly he likes like, Celiard. We don't really use the fullback that much anyway. Last week we were using like, wishbone formations with two tight ends in the backfield. So it didn't even need the fullback. And clearly John Connor is just not as good as he was made out to be on hard knocks. He was a hard knock superstar. Yeah, there's a lot of those. And then, you know, they gave him chances in the preseason on like, third and one. Handed to him as the upback. Wasn't making them. Right. He's injured, can't get on the field, so they caught him.
03:00 Jake: No big deal, whatever, he's a fifth round fullback. The problem was he was a superstar in hard knocks, so it's like, oh you have a little... The time. Yeah, you have a little... It's not a PR problem, you just have a little like, oh I know that guy. As opposed to him just being the fifth round fullback who started for a year. Who cares. Right. three years whatever was the third and we also we have we're just getting decimated by injuries and these aren't like these are actually massive and nice so both Blaupau and McKnight who's returning kicks Uh, Kramarti, really? I don't like that idea. I used to like it. I don't anymore because I'm like four times and it's not even that he's just too important He can't lose him. No, I think they'll come up with somebody else. Yeah I mean this is sort of the same situation with Carlisle Wilson do it Curly Wilson Somebody like I mean, I feel like there's fast guys Yeah, I feel like anybody can return in this in this thing right can't Grimes return but make it was really good I mean good. Yeah, he was just as good as anybody else who was doing it Brad Smith was also really good in this system Yeah, guess who else was really good in this system everyone else who's done it. Yeah, so I literally everybody Yeah, Chad Morton anybody cuz he was good at it, too. He was awesome All right, so both are out for a couple of weeks Well, they're saying I know what's his face Justin Miller. They're saying you can return to question. I think Paul's out Powell's out this week McKnight is Questionable he has an ankle sprain a high one. So let me see all the way around But the point is we go this week then we go to dolphins we dolphins at home So a Patriots Dolphins then a buy. So I think what everybody's saying is- Justin: The prize is the next two. Jake: Yeah, I think it's give them three full weeks to recover and then come back after the buy. Fun. So that's kind of a piss. And as normal, the media just sorts the, it hasn't been horrible this week with just pissing on the Jets. No, you know, one. Because they won and- Because the media sucks. Fuck you, media. And they just might fuck you. Yeah, they just jump over the- I'm a broadcaster, I'm part of it. So fuck yourself. But man, these writers just love making shit up and like... When Tintibo's the starter? Yeah, and making statements and all sorts of stupid shit. So story time. This guy comes up in the elevator yesterday and he goes, so... and I was wearing a chest thing so I always am. At home or at work? Uh, at home. And the guy says, oh, so, oh, it's crazy this season. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me forever. Like every season. Yeah, like every season. And they're like, so, you know, they got to figure out this whole quarterback thing. And I H'm just like, they figured it out. There is no quarterback thing. We have a quarterback. All we need to figure out is why the hell we spent $5 million on a guy that we're barely using. And what could have that $5 million have done anywhere else? We're under the cap. We're decimated by injuries and we don't have any depth anywhere. These are issues. Not not the you know, the unnamed one
06:01 Jake: You know who has done pretty much nothing fine Justin: Whatever best personal protector in the lead and I'm like listen dude best Jake: personal pump protector in the league That's awesome. He's the best. There's no one better than him at that. That's a great job for him. Let's speak of things that I want. He's a football player. He protects the punter. He converts the force and shorts. Great! BAM like league minimum then. I can't wait till they try against the Pats and the Pats are like you stupid fucks. We're way too smart for that bullshit. So the only good thing that... I mean the only weird rumor that came out was that we were looking at another, the Jets were looking at another quarterback this week. Our former guy that has been on the Jets for a couple years. And the rumor was like, are we then, are we trying to, are we gonna trade Tim Tebow before the deadline? He has no value. I disagree. I think there's a team out there. I don't know who it is. But I think there's a team out there that like has- If you can't name the team, then there's no value. Name the team. It's the team who loses a quarterback the next two weeks. And who has no backup. The Titans lost their quarterback. They wouldn't take them. He's coming back. Lockers coming back. I mean, most teams have their backups in place at this point. Justin: I don't know. Jake: Would you be upset if they traded away Tim Tebow before they traded it? All right. As long as they got something back, if it was like Tim Tebow for a seventh round pick-up, like you assholes. Well, we just. You just traded away, you know, whatever. What was it a fourth and a sixth? It's just a fourth. And a sixth. And got a seventh back. And then, so then you get, just get a seventh. So you traded essentially a fourth for a seventh for three fake punts. Like I'd be really, and a bunch of bullshit in the off season. I'd be really upset. Alright. I'd kind of be happy just to get them off my team. Well, I'd be upset if they didn't get anything for him. At this point, I just want him off my team. I just don't think he's doing any good for the... the... Again, if he blows up some week, I'm wait... wait for it. And I know he's a player and I... Well, that's not fair of you. Why? That's not fair of you. I'm not fair! I'm a fan. Fuck fair. Oh, I'm a broadcast runner. Here's me fucking fair up the ass. That's you not being fair. You're like, oh f... Fuck him until he does something that I love him Exactly cuz of all the shit that this team is going through in the last six months or you're not I'm with I'm I'm against him Until he shows me you can do something and then I'll change them. They don't change my mind Why not? Either with them or you're against no, it's like the people against is he wearing the dirt you rooting for the jersey or the player The jersey. Yes, you're with me something. So you're with them. I'm with him. I'm with them, but show me something But I want them out you want them out the door I'd like for it to show value for what we did and all the hell that the jets have gone through with the PR and the stuff and all this crap for the season, I want that to equal something. I want to equal wins or something. So I told you what? We won't judge until week 17. Week 17 at the end when it goes zero and the bills jets and whatever that score is and look back at our season and it's like hey, we're getting ready to to go on the road in a wild card game or
09:03 Jake: Oh look at that losing season. That's how I'll know. That's how I'll judge him. Or we'll have a bye. Here's the most effective use of Tim Timo. I think I said it in the last podcast, but I'm gonna repeat it. Yes. Third and one. Third and one. Every time. Empty backfield. Every time. Five wide. He gets to read and say okay. I can get this yard by myself. I feel like you can get that yard every time. Well that's why I feel this way. Nobody in the backfield. There's five wides. They're stacking the box because they know I'm gonna run. Great. I'm gonna throw it deep. And I don't care. Just throw it deep. Deep. Don't- none of this- Don't try and throw it a little slant or anything. Throw it deep. Throw it down the field. Don't forget anything that takes talent. It's third and one and there's gonna be a guy on the outside if they're stacking the box. Right. That's gonna have one on one on the side. Sure, he's gonna have a one on one matchup. If there's not that, run it. Run straight up Mangold's ass, and you'll get a yard. That's the most effective use of Tim Chibo that I can think of because he is a unique talent that he can do that. Right. Well he's big and strong. Sanchez, you would never ask to do that. Right. Ever. He's big and strong. and he has an arm, he has again bad mechanics in throwing and not very accurate, but for those, I like to say that it's the one of three, you do that whip down the field, you get pass interference, you get an interception, or you get a touchdown. Go for it. There are other things that can happen. No, never. Those are the three things that always happen. Well, it could just be thrown out of bounds. Nope, nope. Oh, then pass interference. No, it's just a catch for not a touchdown. Touchdown. That's it. This is only through things. All right. Justin: I think there could be more than that. Jake: So if Jack came to fantasy, you just want to go over there and say, I'm taking on this week. I'm taking on the Southwest homers, I think. Am I? Taking on the homers? I'm taking on the Southwest. I'm taking on Steve, Stevevp. Who am I taking on here? I am taking on the Florida Big Lonk, Richard Clemens. And he's two, three, and one. I'm four, one, and one. Did a score change happen from last week? What just happened? Did I not lose by one last week? You had a tie? I was, wait a minute. Hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on. Something just happened. Just a gosh darn second. You can say, goddamn it. Hold on just a minute. What happened? I tied? What happened? What how the score change you can go up to? under Justin: My fantasy I go to last more no 74 74 now. Yeah, what happened here? I can tell you it's stat corrections Jake: I found it last week Week six Randy McNichol negative one Nick Barnett Chris Clemens. Dwayne Bow is a player on my team. Receiving yours for four. So he must have three beforehand. I gave him one. Aaron Maven. Let's see what else. So I tied. So I didn't even lose. Quinn Cobles. That's fun. There you go. Cool. All right.
12:07 Jake: All right. Another reason why standard leagues suck. I buy. I'm in bye week blues. So Steve, you have the chance to beat me, but I will still crush you. I think I'm gonna win again. Let's move on to... I'm gonna take this show on the road and win. Yes. Let's move on to Jet Kingdom Pick'em. How are we doing? I think I'm only two out from you, big boy. Two out, you think? Two out! Well, I'm still ahead. Oh, yeah. I'm still ahead with, you know, how many more weeks to go. You're still ahead by two. Doesn't matter. I'm in second. I'm in second. Maddie Jets is in first. You're in a solid second. I'm in a solid second by myself. You are two games back. You're two games over 500. I'm six games over 500. Yeah, I will take you. Why don't we hop right into this, sucker? Let's go. Let's get going. Way to be, Matty Jets, for winning. So, Jake and I'm picking. We pick every game but the FC East with the spread. Go, Justin. Ah, you got to explain that every time. Well, because we might have a new listener. I mean, it seems like we have a lot of new listeners. All right. It seems like we do. Um, starting tonight. Tonight is Thursday after the Yankees game. Mm-hmm Cuz they're rained out. I think they were gonna play it for anyway, but rained out last night postponing my misery one extra day San Francisco Coming off of a bad loss at home Against Seattle coming off of a big win at home In San Francisco, San Francisco given a touchdown, I love San Francisco in this game. I love him, love him, love him. The emotional we just lost versus the emotional we just won a game we shouldn't have won mixed with the San Francisco at home equals big time victory for San Francisco. Uh, San Francisco wins this game, but I don't think by seven points. I think Seattle is this team that just doesn't... Alright, I just picked up a game on you. Nope, you didn't. Let's keep going. I'll take Seattle. Alright. Uh, Indianapolis, who the Jets just beat up on, are hosting Cleveland. They're at home. They play better at home, Indy. Cleveland doesn't play well anywhere, although they won last week. Well, they just got interesting news. They got approved to be sold. And Holmgren. And Holmgren is out. Is out. Eagles also fired their defensive coordinator. Yes, that happened too. Which... We're diverging a little bit. I didn't think that was fair. I didn't think the defense was the reason why the Eagles was losing any games. I kind of thought the reason why the Eagles are 3-3 is because Michael Vick has turned the ball over 14 times in 6 games. That's not the defense. I mean, that's like, oh, he fumbled and somebody scored off of that because of the short field. Twice in a game. Or, oh, a pick 6. Like, that's not on the defense. And they're losing games by 3. They're not losing. They're not getting blown out. turnovers are why they're losing not defense that was a scapegoat that wasn't fair they're they're a they're a team in disarray that wasn't right that was that was covering andy reed's ass because they didn't want to fire andy reed because his son just died yeah i said it wow
15:02 Jake: he's not a good coach right into bucket checking him back on all right um Indy hosting Cleveland Indy giving the standard three which means Vegas or whoever's making these lines thinks they're even I think Indy's better So I'll take Indy I think Indy's better I don't think Cleveland has the defense that the Jets have I think they play better at home I look for luck a luck to rebound luck be a lady at home and May not play either. Although he's saying he's playing so Green Bay coming off of a big time big time performance. Don't get this line. I don't get it either. Bill Simmons the sports guy calls this the Vegas zone where they just didn't know what to do. They just threw it in the middle somewhere. So Green Bay is going to St. Louis and Green Bay's giving five and a half. I think that's low. I'll take green bay. Thanks. Yeah, I think that's really low green bay Just went on the road to the best human league and put up 42. St. Louis can't hang with that. No st. Louis Has a good defense not Euston's defense though. No and St. Louis doesn't have the offense to keep up the way Euston does. So we'll see. I think Green Bay is going to dominate. So in Side Note Fantasy World, I have a I have bi-week crazy. You're playing both St. Louis's running backs. Both running backs. Justin: Hopefully to do it. One of them. One of them is going to score maybe. Something's going to happen. Jake: All right. But yes, I'll take Green Bay. Two surprising teams here. Minnesota is hosting Arizona. Arizona started off 4-0 and they're now 0-2 in their last two. Minnesota home giving 6. I like Minnesota to win. I just think it's gonna be closer. So I'm gonna pick Arizona. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be closer at all. I think this is gonna be... I don't... I think Arizona with quarterback problems. I don't think their crack matters. I think it does. I think they both suck. I think they were winning despite the quarterback. But Cobb was playing hot and I think And and skeletons gonna play cold. Minnesota has a good D. They play much better at home I think they could run all over Arizona this entire game. Maybe I like Arizona. I see them just getting up and staying up Justin: That's I think there's gonna be low scoring game. So I like it. So I'm two up on you already Jake: I got my two back. Oh, we're two different. No, we're even now Because I'm caught up to you. Well, we're different. I'm just saying. I'm just caught up to you. I feel like we're going to differ on this Vegas zone line as well. The Giants are hosting Washington. The Giants giving 5 and 1,5. I like Washington. Washington gave the Giants fits last year. Is that another one of these? There's a different one, Washington. I know they were worse last year. Well, they have a completely different team, like NoRG 3 last year. I know they were worse last year, and they gave the Giants fits. This is one of those Giants come home. moment. We just dominated on the road against San Francisco. But you said that two weeks ago too, and they also dominated home and they crushed somebody. I'll take Washington. I'm taking Washington too. I just think Giants play closer. This is a divisional game.
18:00 Jake: Divisional games are close. And he throw in RG3 and he has the ability to do stuff. You can score 14 points in the fourth quarter. Backdoor this sucker our Giants fan who we know and love would say yeah We know about how to deal with RG 3 because we've been dealing Michael Vick for three years Yeah, they're different though. I think they are completely different I I just think it'll be Washington's willing to run the ball with the running back. Yeah, this will be a higher Don't the Eagles that's why Andy Reid should have been fired They're not willing to give the best running back in the league the ball right give them the give them the damn fuck I'm like a Sean. Let's go All right, New Orleans versus Tampa in a big time division matchup here of teams that are like holding on to the last thread of hope and whoever loses this game is just completely shot. Uh, New Orleans on the road in Tampa, New Orleans giving three on the road. I will take New Orleans. I'm taking New Orleans. I don't believe in Tampa. I'm sorry. I don't believe in Josh Freeman. I do believe in Drew Brees even without weapons. I think this could be a high-scoring game. I just feel like Norlens is gonna outscore them by more than three. Yep. This is a line I don't understand. Maybe it's due to injury. Dallas is going to Carolina and Dallas is favored by two. I would think that they'd be favored by more than that, but maybe the DeMarco Murray injury is figuring into that. Carolina stinks. They just outright stink. So I like Dallas giving the two. Yeah, I think Dallas is a stinky team too. They play high, play low. I think going to Carolina, I could see... I just have in my head... It's going to be high scoring. I see a Cam Newton game this game. I see a big shootout game here. Yeah. Because neither of these... I don't think Carolina can stop Dallas. Right. And... I'm not certain that Dallas is going to be able to stop Carolina. Let's take Carolina. All right. We differ there, too. There you go. Houston, still home, coming off a bad loss, is hosting Baltimore, and these are the coincidentally, these are the only two teams in the AFC with winning records. What? Yeah, you heard me right. The Patriots are 3 and 2. No, they're not. Oh, 3 and 3? Correct. Remember? The AFC East is all 3 and 3. You should know that one. I thought they went on a bye though already. Well, how would we all have the same record if... That's true. Um, so... Houston vs Baltimore, big matchup at 1 o'clock, the last 1 o'clock game. This is probably the game to watch at 1. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. So, Houston's home, favored by 6.5. I like them, coming off a bad loss. Baltimore coming off some devastating injuries to their defense. I like Houston to run all over Baltimore and beat them by more than 6.5. This is going to be a big Ken Baltimore hang game. I... Again, I think Houston will be able to score. It's just a matter of will Baltimore be able to keep up They have down-the-field threats and and that sort of Baltimore's thing It's like run run with one of the best runners in the league and then throw throw
21:00 Jake: Yeah, and you're gonna catch down the field down the field and Torrey Smith is gonna catch one of those Well, here's here's where Joe Flacco finally Has to actually step up and if he's gonna make that elite claim Yes, like everyone likes to say Joe Flacco was elite when he's playing well, but then when he beats Kansas City by 9 9 6 It's like Oh Joe Flacco now Absolutely You have it out for Joe Flacco. I hate Joe Flacco. Are you wacko for Flacco? No, I hate him Here's where he gets to actually show for the first time where his defense is not gonna be able to carry him for the rest of the year where the offense of Baltimore for the first time in his career has to be the better side of the football. And we'll see how he handles that. Yeah, I think Houston's going to win. So I'm going to win by more than I've got used to as well. Me too. Oakland is hosting Jacksonville. Oakland's giving four. I think that's one too many. So I'm going to take Jacksonville. Yeah, I. This is a weird one. I looked at it, and I was like oh Oakland in Oakland And then Jacksonville not a very good team, but then I picked Jacksonville, so I'm gonna say I'm very good either Yeah, they're not very good either, but I'm gonna stick with Jacksonville. Alright Sunday night Pittsburgh hosting or going to sorry Cincinnati Pittsburgh favored by one and a half I had no idea what to do here. I don't think either of these teams are all that great. Especially Pittsburgh on the road. I don't think they're very good. I think they're old. They're injured. But I think they they beat Cincinnati because I just don't think Cincinnati's good at all. Like Pittsburgh's injured and old but they like I still believe in Big Ben and they have a few weapons on offense coming back. Sincey I just don't think very good at all so give me Pittsburgh given the one and a half Yeah, I'll go for Pittsburgh too. I don't think these are good teams though. I don't think this can be a good game either That's Sunday night game very bad good Monday night game though Chicago in it the division games are fun. The Chicago is hosting Detroit And Chicago's coming off their bye, Detroit coming off a big win, comeback win against Philly. And Chicago's favored by six, I like Chicago. I love Chicago this year. You picked the most of them all. Yeah, I don't like Chicago probably to win, but I think the six I'm not. Detroit is the comeback kid. They're the backdoor team. And they're the comeback win kid, so I feel like... I feel like that's, you know, if they're down by 10, they can come back and they have in fourth quarter. So they have and they've proven it. So I don't know why this would be any different. I'll pick Detroit. Okay. Let's go to the AFC East. Whoop, whoop. All right, let's do it. There's only one game that's not the Jets and it's Buffalo hosting Tennessee. So for you new listeners, all of you, we do a thing called the AFSC East throne picks. Spelled T-H-R-O-N-E, get it thrown, checking them, blah, blah, blah. And where we pick the... Do you have to really spell that out for people? Well, thrown pics, because it sounds like I'm saying thrown like a thrown pic. I'm making a pun in thrown pics, but it's thrown like... Like throwing the pic? Yeah. Like a thrown pic.
24:00 Jake: Like an interception? Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah, that's why it's funny. Thrown pics. I never even thought of that. Because you should like it. I don't even like it. But anyway, I don't even like it. It's just... It's actually stupid. It's very funny. time. So AFC East throwing picks we pick every AFC East game with the spread and then we talk about the game. So Let's go Alrighty, let's do it Do it. So Tennessee is going to Buffalo The spread is the standard home team Buffalo giving three So I'll give my score I guess before I and then you'll know who I'm picking in the pick them I like Tennessee to win this game Because I just don't believe in Buffalo at all like I know that they just beat Arizona, but Tennessee I just don't I don't feel like Buffalo is very good I feel like Tennessee has some weapons on offense that can beat Buffalo like this would be a game where I actually look for Chris Johnson have a good game. I think they have enough weapons in their receiving core to make some things happen. And I think that their defense, while not very good, I don't think Buffalo's offense is all that good either. So I like this game to finish Tennessee 23, Buffalo 17. Yeah, I'm not again, not a big believer in Buffalo either, but I do believe that they have enough talent to beat a bad team, which is Tennessee is a bad team. I think they are a bad team. I think both these teams are bad teams. And I think Buffalo has enough talent to beat another bad team. So, you know, they still have their running backs. They still have, you know, where's Stevie Johnson gone? Is Stevie Johnson still play for a team? Yeah, well, he shot himself in the leg. Well that was like two years ago. Oh, right in the touchdown dance. Yeah, I just don't know where this guy's gone. You know where he's gone? He's gone to Fitzpatrick. He's his quarterback and he can't throw from 15 yards. Last year he was... But Fitz can't throw past like 20 yards. So looking back, the big signing, re-signing of Fitz after his 5-1 start last year. Yeah, not. Huge mistake. Doesn't look good anymore does it? No it's awful He can't throw have you ever I mean you've seen him You know how the Jets beat the Bills every time they play you know why? Cuz they know Fitz can't throw the ball 20 yards down the field so they just jam Everybody up on the line of scrimmage stop the run game and force they know Fitz is throwing these little slant bullshit screen everything and everybody's just standing there on the line of scrimmage waiting for him to do it. That being said, I still think that they have enough. They have more weapons in their horrible offense to Tennessee. I don't believe I think Houseback hasn't looked good this year. Lockers not supposed to go. Chris 2K, C.2.4K, not so good. I'll take Buffalo in this game. 2331 Buffalo. Didn't Tennessee just last week? Beat Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah Okay, but we don't think Pittsburgh's a good team. So okay. Yeah, just throwing that out there Yeah, it's a Thursday night game and you know, all right, so they've had extra rest even crazy stuff happened. Okay
27:04 Jake: onto the game of the Century once again, fuck you Justin onto the game of the century just saying your your fanship, the small thread of fanship you had as a New York Jets fan, it's slowly disappearing. It's down to like the thinnest of wires. And I know you're only doing this because you want to continue to be right on your prediction four or six weeks ago, but it's still pathetic. And I'm calling you pathetic. And I'm calling you a waste of human flesh. It's so not pathetic. Alright, so let's start off by just giving the line. New England's home, obviously. The Jets are going up there. Biggest line of the week? That's right. New England's favorite by 10 and a half. Through tooth- Again, I get it. Great. No one believes in the Jazz. Jets suck. Fine, we suck. But really? 10 and a half? 10 and a half. We just- We just beat- a team last week, we've stuck in with some good teams and we beat other teams. They go over, they get beat by Seattle. 10 and a half, what's the biggest line of the week? Is like the is against the Jets? Makes sense to me. You're an idiot. Well they did beat us 45 to 3 when we were like, you know. What were we at that point? 11 and 3 that year? Or whatever we were... You were talking about last year? Two years ago. That's like saying whatever. Oh great. We go to New England, we get beat by a lot of points. It happens every year except when it really matters in the playoffs. But every time we go up there, they seem to beat us. By a lot. So, here's my keys for this game. Yeah. When Tom Brady throws the ball on first down, they average, no to anybody, they average eight yards. On that first throw. On that first and ten. When they throw, they get eight yards, on average. Yep. So, for me, the key is three and ounce. Right? Okay. So, when they get going... You don't know what they're gonna do. They throw on first down. They might run on first, and if they do throw on first down there, it's second and two, and then you're in big trouble. So the key is first down and then and then getting off the field before they get into that rhythm of that hurry up because I've watched them play a few times this year. They get into this hurry up mode where they don't sub because they've got all the players they need on the field. And they will run out of it, they'll run out of the shotgun, they'll throw out of it, they'll fool you to shit. And you're stuck in your base defense, and all of a sudden you've got Gronk over the middle, and then all of a sudden it's like, shit, we can't sub, run for 12 yards, oh fuck, during the shotgun they're gonna throw, oh, another run for 6, and then, oh fuck, where it... So, you get in huge trouble with that hurry up bullshit. 3 and outs. 3 and outs, 3 and outs. Don't let them get into a rhythm. Don't let them pick up 8 yards on first down. Get them into 3rd and long situations where you know what's going to happen. Where they might have to make a substitution so that you can make some substitutions. Get some pressure on Tom Brady. Get him off the field. 3 and outs. 3 and outs.
30:12 Jake: Alright, so I'm really gonna talk about I think this this game comes down to In every division, there's the leader of the division, and then there's the teams who draft and pick and try to catch the leader, right? In when it was the Colts, everyone was trying to beat the Colts. Not anymore. Maybe it's the, everybody's trying to beat the Packers. Like it's always, there's a guy that you want to beat. Patriots and our division are the guy we want to beat. So every time we do anything, from hire a head coach, to draft, to... to get free agents, we're always doing it to try to beat the Patriots. That's our number one job. We don't get, you know, we didn't pick up those two safeties this year to beat the Dolphins. We didn't pick up, you know, a down-the-field threat to beat the the beat the Bills. We do all this stuff. We pick all, we make, we pick Cople's. We pick these people to beat the Patriots. So this is, to me, this is the you have to get those guys who you picked that you've done in the offseason to show up on this game. So we need both. We picked two really good safeties because we need to cover we need to cover two of the best tight ends in the league. We picked. We picked a pass rusher because we got to get to Tom Brady. We picked a down the field threat in Stephen Hill because we have to not be a one-dimensional team. It's all about beating the Patriots. So this to me, the key to this game is those players, the players that we literally put on the roster this year, the new ones, so both the rookies and the vets that we put on the roster this year, it's their time. If they show up, if you see great games from them, we'll win this game. And I think we can win this game. This is a team that can be passed on, which is the crazy thing. The Patriots are a team that can be passed on. I don't think we have to just keep a nice even going. They were like that last year, too. And we weren't able to. But we weren't able. I think the whole thing, you know, if you want to spin the tale of wonderful love, having homes go down... There's an article out this week saying, it's one of the best things to happen to the Jets because now instead of- Yeah, we said that too. Yeah, instead of just planning for Holmes and trying to give him 30% of the balls because he's a malcontent and a mouthy, whatever, it's wherever you need to go. And so I think our passing game will become better over the next couple of weeks, or certainly in two weeks. Thanks. So I like this, I like the ability to just shoot it around to the Hill Brothers. I like the ability to have, you know, I love the Hill Brothers. The Hill Brothers, it's so bad. Hill Street Blues. Hill Street Blues, oh it's good. So I think the Jets, that's it, it's about those rookies. You know, the Sean Greens, I hate to say it, the... Even the Tim Tebow, so he's a new addition. He was taken. I know this is this is well crazy crazy
33:03 Jake: But he was taken as part for all the other reasons He's taken because he brings a wrinkle and what we needed wrinkles to beat the Patriots. Ah, he did really well against the Pats last year. First time. You mean where he lost by a lot? Second time. Where he lost by even more? Okay, maybe not. But I think it's wrinkles. It's wrinkles to what we do You're still gonna, those guys gotta show up. So to me, it's about those, let's say five guys. Bell, Laundrie, Hill, Coppols, and Tebow. Those guys show up, we win this game. I think it's gonna get high scoring because I don't think we can stop them. I don't think they can stop us too much. So I see us winning. 30 to 28. I also see a lot of scoring. Jets win. I'm a Jets fan, I pick the Jets to win. I see a lot of scoring and I see it being very close in the fourth quarter. At the start of the fourth quarter I actually see us like being tied almost like 24-24. and then losing 37 24 because like a bad break will happen like it always happens the pats get so fucking lucky there'll be like a tip pass something there'll be a questionable fumble that they'll recover or they'll fumble and we won't recover it we'll kick it and they'll get a first down on it or some stupid bullshit that always happens with the pats that they always get So I'm gonna pick the paths to win 37-24. Alright, that is pathetic. Alright, we'll get them at home though. I'm sticking in there. We will get them at home. But you know, if we win this game, you have to drop this whole... Like you're going with the original pecs. I'm going with my gut. No, you're going with the original pecs. Why...? I feel like that's gonna be the score. I'm not going with my original picks. I'm going with this is what I think the score is gonna be. No, I know you better. And I know you want to be right. You'd rather be right than have the Jets win. No, I'd rather pick the fucking Jets and have them win. But I don't think they're gonna win. You're not playing by... They are only the largest underdog. in the league this week. That's right. Nobody thinks they're gonna win. Nobody believes. Justin: Good. Fine. I'd rather them win and me be wrong. All right we gotta get going. Jake: Jetkingdom.com follow us twitter.com slash Jetkingdom, twitter.com slash just Jetkingdom. On Facebook, facebook.com slash Jetkingdom. On the podcast on iTunes, subscribe. We will see you next week. Win or loss. If it's a win we might do a double. If it's a loss we'll see you sometime the middle of the week. Remember to get your picks in, get your standings in, and we'll see you later. Until then, as always, go Jets.
