Sweep The Leg

October 24, 2012 · 43:08 · Forty-six minutes for Jets vs. Pats, Other Kingdoms, the fantasy league, Pick'em, AFC East Throne Picks, a look at Jets vs. Dolphins, and Twitter questions.
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Opening
Onan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women.
Transcript
Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-first-speech cluster=0 @ 9.2s → Jake; other-primary cluster=1 → Justin; Jason-ref Jake cluster 0 sim=0.30.
00:09 Jake: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Can't wait! Justin: Welcome to Jet King Park House. This is Jake. Joining me for the 160th time Justin How you doing Justin All right, I even skipped the longest one in your guest podcast. I just went right into it bam Jake: Yeah, I wasn't ready for that. We got a lot to talk about Justin: Yeah, I guess so and we don't have a lot of time to do it. No, we don't we have 44 minutes That's right. We have about 40. We have 46 minutes to talk about this content Alright, well today we're going to talk about the Jets vs. Pats game, some news around the jet world or other kingdoms. We'll talk about the Jet Kingdom fantasy, the Jet Kingdom pick-em. We'll make our picks for the week as well as our AFC East throne picks. And then we'll talk about the Jets vs. Dolphins at the end. And maybe answer if we have some time. We'll answer the questions off Twitter. Let's get into it, Jets vs. Pats. What are your thoughts? Jake: Oh, fuck. Justin: Moving on, next topic. By the way, all the fans who are clamoring for us to come on and do a Monday podcast when we lose. We're not doing that. Fuck you. That's the fuck you. Yeah, the fuck you. We're not doing that. No, I mean, I love you guys, but seriously, I can't get on and talk about the, it still hurts. I'm wearing my jet shit now, but like. Thank you. It hurts. I'm not getting on on Monday and talking about how we got our asses beat, even if it wasn't asses beat, whatever. So, sorry, get into your analysis. Analysis from Justin. Jake: Analysis, paralysis. I was impressed by the Jets on Sunday. They showed me some things that I didn't think they had in them. I thought the defense played really, really well. Held up great. I thought the offense looked really good at times. There were times where they made some blunders, had some bad play calling, some mistakes, some throws that shouldn't have been made, bad runs. questions. But overall, I think they played pretty well. Hung in there, almost pulled out a win against a team that's hard to beat at home, who had lost the previous week. The Pats don't often lose twice in a row at that second game at home. So I thought they were going to get blown out in the fourth quarter. It was looking pretty... Pretty Glimb was 2313, looked like it could go either way and they clawed their way back in there, showed me something. Some big mistakes down the stretch, some drops, not being aggressive enough in that after we recovered that fumble.
03:04 Jake: Running two times I understand, and you're trying to take those time outs away from the paths. you're trying to run the clock down as much as you can by making them call their timeouts but unfortunately, running the ball twice straight up the middle with one guy who's limping around and the other guy who got his bell rung isn't really gonna work. Well, it's unfortunate. They really could have and should have won the game and they kind of gave it away there at the end of the fourth quarter. Tom Brady doesn't need timeouts. He's going to go down the field. I don't need to time out. He really didn't. To score three points, he didn't need to time out at all. So I don't understand why the Jats didn't just... throw the ball. Sanchez was throwing the ball pretty well in the second half. He was hitting curly. He was hitting Keller. He was hitting Hill in the hands, in the face. He was hitting guys. They were open. They showed why you can throw on them. Sanchez had one of his better statistical days. As far as completion percentage yards yards per attempt Went over 300 yards had a good quarterback rating all those things were there You know our number 51 stat both these both of them went over 51. Oh so out that we we actually by that by that measure we should have won the game and We really should have won the game. Um... Justin: So for the first time in a Jett game, that hasn't really worked. I mean, I will tell you, I'm a little bit pissed, because this... My fucking stupid quarterback on my team, He's 26 for 42, only 259 yards, 61.9% completion ratio. His yards per attempt is only 6.2, like... Click. Like who is this guy? Oh wait, that's Tom Brady stats. Let me read Mark Sanchez's stats. He was 328 yards, 68.3%, 8%, 8 yards per attempt. Now he was sacked four times. But you're missing two key stats, rating and touchdowns. I know I'm Jake: now you're missing You're missing two very important numbers. Which ones? Two ones. One interception, one fumble lost. Tom Brady had zero of those. Justin: This is true. But I think this is the point is like, if you said to me that you could look at the stats and not really discern between those two players, you couldn't. You couldn't. They played an overtime game. That's... Pretty much it. And any close game, the problem with close games are, if you get blown out, like let's look back to the 49ers game, what was the problem in the 49ers game? Everything. So it's hard not to go back to the,
06:00 Justin: so this game what the problem is, you were so close, you can go back and you can actually say, this or this or this. I don't blame the safety. Safety, that shit just happened. That was a fumble. You know what, and if you believe in football karma, and the fumble that happened on the other end, you know, when the kickoff, then that's football karma coming around for you. I think that the play that kind of sticks in my craw is that, you know, sitting there at home, listening to Phil Sims, talk about it over and over again. saying, boy, every time they run, if the third and one, they get it. They're like 10 and 0 or 8 and 0 when they run on third and one. They can just get that ball, get that ball, get that ball. And you, having, hearing you in my ear all the time, Tim Tebow, all you do is give him one, if he's third and one, give him the ball. He'll pick up one. He's going to pick up one. And me believing that if you're a ground and pound team, you should be able to get a yard any time you want to. Any time you want to, you should be able to get a yard because that's what you're built to do. That's who you are. So sitting down there, 31, two, and we were a yard and a half away from the end zone, and just not going for it. It just didn't seem like a Rex Ryan team. It didn't seem like a ground and pound team. It didn't seem like a, I know they're like, listen, we're close, we can win this. Let's just get the points on the board. But you also have to know your opponent. You gotta put points in the board and threes don't, in that situation, so what, even if you didn't get it, you were gonna leave Tom Brady at the half yard line. And I think that would have been a problem for him. I don't think he would have gone very far in there. So that's the one I look at and I'm like, I wish they had just that one. Not the safety, not the hill drop, but that one. I thought that seven versus three. See you next time. That's the one that I kind of wish we had had gotten this touchdown. Jake: Couple bad, couple bad drives in a row. To me. Last drive of the first half, they they basically played for a 50 something yard field goal. Right. Luckily, folk made 54 yard field goal, but they had time outs. They had time. They basically drove to the 35 and said alright Okay time to kick a field goal. That's what we're trying to get to the 35. That's that's a means just bad time management bad play calling and then Say the next drive was the third quarter. We get the ball. We go down the field look. We're looking good And you know, third and one from the one and a half. I mean, come on, go for a chance to Chaz Shillings. Least throw the ball to Keller. Yeah, Keller. Don't Chaz Shillings. And they know they knew that they were. That play didn't work once the whole game. That slant on like third and three or whatever. The Pats were like, all right. We know that's what they're doing. Right. Tim Tebow up the middle would have worked. Sean Green up the middle would have worked.
09:00 Jake: You could have gained half a yard and then it would have been fourth and half a yard. And you would have done it. And you could have went for it again. I mean I was saying go for it even on fourth and the one and a half. Just go for it. Just get it. You'll get it. You'll get it. Um but those points, that's six points where it could have been 10, could have been 14. You're right, forget the safety, whatever, that shit happens. And the drops. Wilfert made a great play. And I think the hill dropped. Oh, that hill dropped, I'm sorry. The drops happened. That wasn't a touchdown drop, it was just a drop. Drops happened. Yeah, but that was a drive that was going for a touchdown. They were gonna score a touchdown, instead they had to kick the field goal, and they were lucky. c. All right. to then kick off and get the fumble. Where, again, they couldn't, you know, they come out on first down, they run the ball. They come out on second down, they run the ball. Just, that was a, you know, Tom Brady's in the back of my head. I don't want to leave him timeouts thing as opposed to. You've been throwing the ball on him, throw the fucking ball. Right. Just go up there first down and throw the ball. Justin: Run a draw play, do something. So let's go to Mike. Let's run up the middle. Let's take the good news corner. All right. I think our past defense is showing up. Yeah, it's fine. The defense is fine. The defense is other than the ability to get to the quarterback. They're getting a little better. Which seems like it's harder to get to the quarterback. Tom Brady doesn't get sacked a lot. No, he doesn't. So it's hard to get to him. Jake: They're getting better. Their defense is starting to come around. You know I just pulled up, remember I was telling you they do the playing time analysis on ESPN. Justin: I don't know if you saw this. Bart Scott got benched in that game. They already announced that. Oh, he got benched. I'm giving you news. Bart Scott got benched during that game. It wasn't my toe injury. Jake: It was your benched. From the linebacker core David Harris played every play Calvin pace played 90% of the plays tomorrow Davis played 88% of the plays Bart Scott played nine plays Twelve twelve percent tomorrow Davis basically took Bart Scott's job You know what hats and I think he might keep it I think he might keep it and I'm okay with that. Justin: He got put in tough spots, unfortunately. This is the guy that everybody was raving about during the preseason or the training camps. Like, De'Mara Davis looks fast, he looks brutal, like, this guy could be a beast. And then, like, they didn't play him and it's like, oh, what happened? Jake: Usually, you guys need a little time to learn a thing or two. And he got schooled a little bit. I mean, not really his fault. You know, the pats line up in this crazy alignment where... You know, they'll throw three tight ends on one side of the field and Aaron Hernandez is split wide and Walker's in the slot and it's like Shit who covers West Walker? Do you move? Cromartie inside to cover Walker and then you have tomorrow Davis outside up by himself against Hernandez was just trouble and then who helps him so Davis got trapped on Welker a few times yeah, and that hurt bad But you know that's just the pads getting in a bad spot and it's such a unique team
12:02 Justin: I mean again, it's hard to play a team that literally almost doesn't play by the rule books of the NFL It's like yeah, we've got we've got weapons so many weapons on offense that we're just gonna You don't even just try and that's their game plan right now. They're not they're not this long. You know, it's funny because a couple of years ago, they used to be the long ball game like it was Randy Moss. Right. It's like, go. They throw for five yards at a time. Now it's like, frick it. We got Danny Woodhead. Yeah, but when it mattered that last drive. They moved. Jake: They moved. Yep. Quickly. But I feel like that's- We rushed three and Brady's like, thank you. Yeah. It's like that extra guy in coverage doesn't matter. Justin: So here's the thing. You predicted they would lose. You didn't, you predicted poorly because you didn't, you predicted the score was so off. It wasn't funny. But do you feel like we have a better shot of winning at home now or a worse shot? Against the Pats? Yeah. Much better. Much better. Just by seeing what you saw. Jake: No, I thought again, I'm. You keep laughing at me and making fun of me constantly But I'll do from the very beginning of the year we picked exactly what we and where did I have us? Exactly here every single game. I've picked correctly thus far. We're at three and four It's exactly where I said we'd be What I didn't know is that the rest of the AFC would be at three and four and four and three So we're in great shape. I think we're rounding into shape. You could see it in Rex Ryan's face and his eyes They're coming. They are coming. The Jets are gonna be five and five, and they're not gonna lose the rest of the year. Justin: So let's talk one. I think I'm the only person saying that in the whole planet. Let's say one other thing. The Tim Tebow Factor. So I've been, a lot of rumors out there this week. Is it time to trade in? We're not trading in. Does he have trade value? No value. Oh, I think he has some value. No value. Maybe not fantasy, but real world of this. Jake: No real world value. See you next time. monetary value if like Jacksonville like all of a sudden they come out and they just lost like well he he's out Justin: He's not out playing Chad penny now. Well, they haven't ruled Gabbard out Jake: They they like him. Yeah, anyway, they also was like dead like alright He just tore his ACL and then he came in and he was just absolute shit So I was like, oh, maybe Jacksonville could use this because Jones Drew's out for a couple weeks or maybe longer, maybe less, whatever. Maybe, but I mean, all they're going to get are draft picks. I mean, they're not going to get a player. Right. So here's the thing. Justin: Here's here's that so far. Maybe we'll do this next week. We'll do it next week because we'll be in a bye. And we'll be halfway. And we'll be halfway. All right, then we'll talk about Tebow and the... But it seemed again that like this team doesn't need that player. Nope. And whereas I thought that there would be like this Brad Smith role there for him. Other than the three-in-one and other than the fake punts. Guess what? He's not as good as Brad Smith.
15:00 Justin: Alright, yeah, I'm not happy with it. I'm not happy with it. Let's move on though. Alright, any other news in the world of... Jake: Someone's taking over first place in the Jack Kingdom Fantasy League standings. Justin: Well, let's get to the Jack... Alright, fine. We'll go to Jack Kingdom Fantasy League. Who is that person? That would be me. Oh, so close. Yeah, if I had to... Just because you had a tie. Bye. Yeah, most points scored in the league. Jake: That would be me too. Justin: And who you going up against this week? Jake: That's a good question. I'm going against the... Oh that's last week who I just beat Richard. I'm going against a tough matchup. The Southwest homers at 5-2. Who just beat me? So it's a 5-1-1 versus a 5-2 matchup. The preview... I haven't really set my line up yet, so I don't know if I have guys in there with the buy or anything like that. It has... I think the preview so far has him winning, but I gotta move some guys around here. Justin: Yeah, the I'm up this week against New York SAC Exchange and Mark Steele, who is one in six. And he's gonna go one in seven because the line is giving me 33 points. Looking good for you. I think I have the best jet. Well he has two buys, he has to swap out two buys. So he's gonna put in, oh he's cut, he's got bi-week blues. I have Jeremy Curley, I think I made the best pick. Jake: You got it good. Justin: I mean Conrad, my boy Conrad actually caught a ball last week. He's catching balls. I don't care. When you have a team that's full of Aaron Rodgers, Jamal Charles, Ryan Matthews, Brandon Marshall, you don't need anybody else. You just play those players. That guy who doesn't get his two points, I don't care. Alright, well let's get into our Jet Kingdom pick'em! Speaking of- Jake: Do we need to- do we need to make our Fool of the Game? Oh, we forgot our Fool of the Game. I'm like the officiate, I don't even really want to bitch about the officiate. Justin: I don't wanna get- the only thing is, don't put a pass interference when you're 25 yards out. Like, he threw that 25 yards, and he was so far away from the play. Jake: Don't like that and a jet killer Rob Nickovich comes up again. Yeah, don't don't jet killer jet killer Just kills us. I mean comes up with the big play at the end of the game So who you gonna pick your free fool? Hmm, it's hard. I mean a lot of guys played really really well that wasn't yeah there wasn't really a guy who to me stuck out as A fool, um, you know, kickers kicked well Poor coverage can't really blame that anybody so You know, I was gonna go with Stephen Hill, but I'm gonna give him a break Justin: Pick Tony Sperano I that's what I was gonna pick if I have one part of the game that I'm worried that I was kind of not loving It was this sort of like very cautious conservative It was like it's fine to be conservative in certain areas, but there's other areas where you're never conservative
18:01 Justin: It's like be a little bit of parcells your foreign want your three and what you go Just go run it you got two plays to make a yard do it. I didn't like the way he called the game speaking of Tying us up here going in the jet Kingdom picker tied tied tied for second. I think I predicted that actually I think I know So how many ahead were you at one point? Like five ahead? We're tied down. So whatever, you're like five ahead, now you're like zero ahead. Jake: I'll be winning when the year's over. Justin: And I'm in second place, you're in third place. I must have a- Why is that? Because I have some sort of tiebreaker over you. I don't want to ever. Just want to say, here's my- I'll be kicking your ass. We know who's going up and who's going down. You start it strong, you're going down. I'll be kicking your- I'm too away from Maddie. Maddie, I'm coming for you. I'm going to kick down both of your asses. Your best week was your first week. You have never even gotten close to it. Fine, whatever. Yeah. My best week was last week. So let's make some picks. As everybody knows, we entire football. I got screwed by the way last week. Oh, let's talk about that. That was awesome. I was with you as you got screwed. Because San Francisco, I had them picked. Jake: First off, the spread was seven when we picked it, and then it jumped to seven and a half. Yeah, but you put it where it picked it anyway. Oh yeah, totally would have picked it anyway. It would have been a push. Instead, it was a loss for me and a win for you. And this fucking asshole, Harbaugh, decides not to take the two points and go up by nine, and instead just with 46 seconds left, and then get the ball kicked to him. Instead just decides to decline. The safety Decline, take the penalty whatever the fuck it was right and then he got the ball and won the game got the ball Just kneeled instead of just taking two points getting the ball and kneeling and depriving us of Justin: Right, which is always exciting. Yeah, what he was what he what he was worried about. This is the scenario that I worry about as a team with with with the 49ers defense is the team. This is what I worry about one of the best defense is what I worry about and best the other team scoring twice with 46 seconds left in no time out. Well, scoring, kicking off getting the ball back, scoring, getting a two point conversion, kicking off again, getting the ball back. Exactly. And field goal. Within 46 seconds. And no timeouts. With no timeouts. Right. He was worried about that. He was worried about that. Cause he had given up all of like 10 points the whole game. Yeah, that was just stunning. I get it from his 10 points, like well I could either end the game right now, or I could take these chances. Jake: I think it's more of a chance to just stay. Up And like maybe there's a fumble on that on that snap. Yeah, I know I got go up two score seems odd to take points off the board Dumb and you ruined a lot of people's game unless you're in the position where you Justin: You could then you must have had money on Seattle. He must have all right. I
21:02 Justin: I was a betting thing. So we pick all the games with the spread. Jake: All the games except the AC East fun to make fun of me when I fuck up and through the ASE's game. There's only two ASE's games this week because Buffalo's on a buy and the Justin: Jets are playing Miami. One other comment. I do not like this no games at four o'clock thing. Second week in a row. They're doing it for baseball. Is that why they're doing it? Yeah, baseball. Oh well I don't like that either then. Three last week and only two this week. It was only two last week too. I was only two? Yeah. That was three. Jake: Us and the Oakland Jacksonville game, which is a real great game. Yeah, no, I don't like that at all. And this week you have a 405, which is a, you know, Kansas City, Oakland's actually a good rivalry game. And the Giants Cowboys, which is also a good rivalry game. Alright, let's do it. I'm gonna win an end to a whole bunch of things. Minnesota is hosting Tampa. Tampa sucks. Minnesota's home. They're pretty decent. Got a good running game. Gonna be able to run. Tampa's defense sucks. Justin: That will take up like 35 points last week. Jake: They're playing New Orleans who stink. I'm gonna take Minnesota giving 6.5, not scared by the points. So you're taking Minnesota? Yes. Alright. My Chicago Bears are hosting Carolina giving eight. I will take the Chicago Bears giving eight because Carolina, they stink too. Justin: Yeah, this is bad. This to me is a location thing. This is a four turnover game. This is a location thing. Carolina going to Chicago, I'm not afraid of the points. If it was Chicago going to Carolina, I would probably think they'll stick closer. I'm alive wouldn't be eight. Right, that's why I'm taking Chicago. Jake: Alright, San Diego traveling to Cleveland, and Cleveland is a home dog in the dog pound. Cleveland getting to and half at home, San Diego, I think they're coming off their bye. Oh, that bye week. Should I let that play into my decision? I just hate North Turner. God. Yeah, but this is the kind of game they win pretty well. I'll take San Diego. Even though it's west to east, Cleveland just stinks. It's from Richardson Meisner. Justin: It's west to east, but San Diego is a better team, and if not, had they just collapsed last week? Jake: Second half they were up to 24 two different games. Yeah, that's the first half and you watch second Justin: Okay They just fire Nerve Turner, but uh yeah, I'll take San Diego and two and a half points. This is tough. Here's a tough game to pick Jake: Troy's pretty easy. Troy's hosting Seattle Detroit- Detroit is giving two at home So that means that means people like Seattle. I don't like Seattle on the road at all. Don't like Seattle. The defense is pretty good though. Don't think that's gonna travel well. I think, yeah. I mean, defense is supposed to travel well. You're sort of swaying me. I'm gonna pick Detroit. Justin: Yeah, I think I'm on Detroit. There's gotta be a point in which Stafford and Calvin Johnson just go for 203 touchdowns.
24:00 Justin: Yeah, and it could be this game. Jake: Could be. Seattle's secondary is really good though. Ah. This game's off. Green Bay hosting Jacksonville. I guess they're waiting to see if... It's M.G.D. and Blaine Gabbert? M.G.D.'s out. Yeah. Gabbert? I mean, does Gabbert vs. Henny really sway the line? I mean, what would that sway from 13.5 to 16.5? Well, it's an easy pick if it's off. Alright, well, it is off. I'm picking Green Bay. Yeah, I'm picking Green Bay. Alright. Tennessee is hosting... Justin: Check back though. It wouldn't go all the way off. No, it'll set on Sunday. It's gotta set at some point. Yeah, so check back because... Jake: It's not gonna set at off. I mean, Green Bay did lose Charles Woodson. Broken Collarbone. Yeah. Alright, Tennessee, who just beat Buffalo in a shootout, is playing Indy. Tennessee's home, giving three and a half. I think that's a half a point too much. So I'm gonna take Indy. Justin: God, we haven't differed yet. I'll take Indy. I think they're going to have a comeback game. Jake: All right. Skipping the next couple because they're at the East Games. We have Philly coming off a bye. Remember the Andy Reid bye situation. Never loses. Hosting Atlanta. Atlanta also coming off of a bye. Uh oh. Two bye's. Make a good win. They're undefeated, right? Mm-hmm. I'm just gonna stick with the Really shocking the world here. I'm gonna go Philly. Yeah, I don't believe in Philly at all. I'll take Atlanta Justin: All right, Michael and as a team that Billy's gonna gonna rattle rally a little here I I feel like you feel like you get out of their own way they could but I don't think so We got Pittsburgh Hosting Washington, and I would this could be the last Michael Vick game Could be the last game potential Jake: Pittsburgh hosting Washington And Pittsburgh giving four and a half? I don't think Pittsburgh's that good and I like Washington. I think they're a pretty good team. So I'm gonna pick Washington. Justin: We all know what it is to play in Pittsburgh. It's not fun. You got a rookie. You got a rookie quarterback. I don't care if he's the second coming of Cam Newton. But I think Pittsburgh black Jesus I input Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh Four and a half. I would really like to say that's gonna be closed. I'll mow again Yeah, that doesn't seem to stop but Pittsburgh coming up. Well, it does. I mean, they're not that good Pittsburgh Jake: All right. What's Pittsburgh's rare? Are they do they have a winning record? They might not Pittsburgh is Well, this will be our first disagreement. Three and three? I'm going for Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's three and three. Yeah, this is when they start to rally. Pittsburgh. Alright, I don't think they're that good. You think Washington? Yes, sir. There's my point. Alright, there's your point. Well, I don't know who you're picking in the other two, the AFC East games. Yes, you do. You know, you know one of them. I know one of them. Kansas City at four o'clock is hosting Oakland. Both these teams stink. Kansas City is starting Brady Quinn. I'm going to take Oakland.
27:00 Justin: Oh, good. I'll take Kansas City. Jamal Charles, a little rest, get him back and running. I think he's going to just I like the way they play at home. I could see him having a master game. I don't care who's back there. Brady Quinn could do that like I'm the next guy up, you know, has that one good game. Everybody starts talking about him. Then he just flops the rest of the seasons. I'll take Kansas City. Jake: Alrighty, uh next game the Giants in a NFC East Battle in Dallas revenge game for the Giants They get up they play these games. Well Giants were only favored by one point. I mean really they're way better than Dallas. So I'll take the Giants. Justin: Yeah, I don't think I think I've been picking the Giants the whole time. I've been doing well with it. I feel like this is the game that the Giants are not. They already lost to Dallas this year. I know. And I think they're going to lose again. I think this is the thing. Dallas, I honestly know how to play them. I think the I think the Giants have they have hit. one too many like luck things and I feel like this is gonna be it. Well, and their quarterback does have a horseshoe stuck up his asshole. He literally can just whip the ball down the field and he'll run for 90 yard touchdown. On his back. Jake: Whenever he can just throw it up there. It doesn't even matter. Justin: I think this will be a high scoring game. They'll be back and forth. But I just, I could see something going wrong at some point and Dallas has taken the lead in running with it. Is there any- I don't really believe in Dallas but I just feel like they run out of luck. Jake: Is there any quarterback that you prefer to have? Tom Brady in the two-minute drill. I'm ready. You'd rather have Tom Brady in the two minutes than Eli Manning. Yes, not me Yeah, give me Eli. I was not about Eli until the last two years. I mean been like Justin: Unreal in the four years. He's unreal two-minute quarterback. Give me you I I still would take Tom Brady Wait, Tom Brady with Eli Manning with whose weapons? Why? They both have good weapons. No, true. I feel like Tom Brady doesn't have Victor Cruz go down the field. He has Wes Walker. That's not the, I'm gonna bomb it to you, you can go for it. It's Brandon Lloyd. Who sucks. He doesn't suck, he's very good. He sucks. He doesn't suck. By the way, worst call of the preseason or when Brandon Lloyd got signed, he's gonna have 55 touchdowns. Like, I'd love to go back to all those people who had these... He's gonna dominate. That guy hasn't done nothing. He dropped more passes than caught passes against the Jets. He's not done anything. He's a decoy and now people know it. Anywho. Uh, let's suck it, Brandon White. Alright, you suck. Jake: Denver. Denver. Remember the rules. Prime time, Sunday night, Denver. Never. Never get against. Never get. Never bet against Peyton Manning on a on a. Prime time game, Denver's home. Six to New Orleans. And about New Orleans stinks. Yeah, they had to buy New Orleans stinks. You can't stop anybody. This is going to be a pretty rough and tumble game as far as offense concerned. Final score this one might be pretty crazy. I'm gonna take Denver.
30:03 Justin: Then you so it's gonna be close or it's just gonna be one way? Jake: No, I actually don't like the line here. I kind of almost feel like it's gonna push. Justin: At six? Yeah. Good. Good. I might go six and a half. Check back. I'll take Denver. Yeah, we agree there and then Monday night. Jake: Don't like this game. This looked like a great game three weeks ago, but all of a sudden you got San Francisco again on prime time on the road in Arizona, taking on John Skelton backup quarterback. San Francisco again giving seven and again, I'll take San Francisco. Because Arizona was 4-0, now they're 4-3 and they're in trouble. Justin: Yeah, they are. I don't know. I don't feel like San Francisco has the killer instinct after beating the shit out of the Jets. And the Bills? Yeah, I'll take the 7. Sorry. I'll take the 7 and the thing. I won it last week, I'll take it again this week. Jake: Take those 7. Alright, so on to the FCE. Let's go! This game pisses me the fuck off. Why? Cause the pats... Oh the pats, oh. Are playing in St. Louis, oh wait. They're not going to that crazy dome where St. Louis plays fairly well. Let me just look here. Let's just humor me for a moment. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do I'm just pulling up St. Louis' thing and looking to see their home record. Ah let's see, they beat Washington at home. They beat Seattle at home. They beat Arizona at home, and they lost to Green Bay by 10 at home, which actually isn't too shabby. So they're three and one at home in their dome. Right. At home in the dome. So now they're hosting New England in London. That fucking blows. That takes like a road game where we have to go play in... in St. Louis in their dome and just throws it completely out the window and makes it a neutral site. I know you say this hurts both teams, but it really hurts the home team more. Yes, because they don't have their home field. So true. This sucks. I hate this. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I think the Pats are gonna win. I like the Pats to win 24-13. The line on this game, I think the Pats are favored by seven, so I'm taking the Pats and the pick them two. Yeah, I... Justin: I hate this. I hate this. I think the Rams D is a little bit better than people have given them credit for. And I think that the Patriots are a little bit worse than people give them credit for. People have been up their ass and they're not... that great of a team. I don't think the Jets D just turned it on last week and became this, you know, again, if we hadn't given them nine points, we spotted them nine to start the game. Jake: And they will start and they won by three. I mean, our defense only gave up 20 and three of them were in.
33:02 Justin: over time. So you have 17 regular... Regular... Just how you should win the game. So I don't know, I... you know, I think New Orleans is gonna win this game. I can't see them losing. I mean, please, let me be wrong. I'd love to be wrong. But, uh, yeah, I see this as a 30 to 22 game. Okay, yeah, that's what I see. So you like New England too. I do. Let's see if I actually did that though Sometimes I just screw this up. Yeah, well, that's why I'm you know, I'm tired of you Jake: That's I'm take one thing and then you pick another that's true Justin: I have st. Louis picked in the other side is such a douchebag. All right Game of the century in the century again not game of the like the minute game of the century I'm pumped for this one. Is it weird to be playing them again so soon? It feels like we just played them. Just like the Giants and the Cowboys. Jake: And they at least they. Justin: We know this is even sooner. They play them first week and now. Jake: It's almost like we're playing the Dolphins like six times this year. Justin: So. Dolphins off of big bye. We're hosting the Dolphins. We're off 8 bye. Jake: Coming off of their big. . Non-loss which puts them at second place in the MCs Justin: Yes, or as Rex Ryan put it we're all we either all first place or tied for last Jake: We're all tied for last at least we're not in last because we beat Buffalo and Buffalo lost a game So they're so Miami sneaky tough, right? They're quarterback. He's a rookie, but he's not playing like one Yeah, I'm pretty well yet yet You know I didn't know about him. I didn't realize about him at all until he's got a third nipple. No, I knew that. Okay. Actually, um, his offensive coordinator was his head coach in college. Okay. And his quarterbacks coach was his either offensive coordinator or quarterbacks coach in college. Okay. So he's running the same system. Okay, basically that he ran in college with the same exact coaches so that has to mean something Yeah, I guess like that's got to give him a little bit of an edge He doesn't have to learn any new terminology and learn any new anything right everyone else is learning his thing Justin: I know that about Tana Hill, but I don't really think he's that good deep thoughts on my thoughts Gotta stop Reggie Bush No, which bush is this? Before he got hurt, after he got hurt. Jake: That's the matter, everyone's running on us. Everyone's getting 100s. Did the patch run on us? They outran us. Well, yeah, but did they run on us? Justin: Well, did they run on us? 100 yards, my guess, off the top of my head. Jake: I mean Rex Ryan defenses, I mean we used to give up like 80 yards right rushing like stay Justin: under 100 so chromartic could cover hard and so chromartic could cover hard and nobody Jake: deal best he generally has good games against us but I feel like Kyle Wilson could cover
36:02 Jake: Like Kyle's has gotten better. I I don't I don't think there's anything to worry about Except for except for Reggie Bush, so you stop the running game slow them down on first down make Tanny Hill Convert their nates not third and threes Justin: You're in good shape Well the way the way they beat us last time and I remember cuz I was there they didn't beat us last Well the way they beat us in the game. We won in overtime because they lost the game They missed two field goals. Jake: So did we beat the Pats yesterday or Sunday? Justin: No, they beat us. Oh, okay. Because a lot of people said it looked like we beat the Pats. Well, by your logic, did we beat the Pats? Did we miss a field goal in overtime to let them go? Didn't matter. They killed themselves in this game. I'm happy we won it, but as I was sitting there as a fan, I was like, Did the Pats fumble a kickoff for turn to get the ball back to then? Yeah, but we didn't miss a field goal. I don't like your logic. We won that game. Point is, they were winning in this game. They were up 10-0, I think, at the beginning of the game. They were winning this game. And the way that... that they were sort of taking these huge chunks. They would get to that third and whatever, and then they would throw the ball like 20, 30 yards down the field and complete it. Was that the heat? Was it Miami? Was it whatever? It just seemed like we couldn't figure out how to cover these long bombs. Like obviously Reggie Bush went out pretty early so that he wasn't really, you know, but they just, they were just doing like run, run and then we're gonna throw it down. They did my one of threes. They get the pass, they get the interference,. They get the catch. I- I mean my key for this one is just stop that crap. Don Rt this guy sit back there and whip this ball down to heartland just on the side and Those plays. They score a touchdown with like two minutes to go, do an onside kick, and we get the ball and kneel it. So it looks like it's a 30 to 20, but it's really a 30 to 13. I think we're gonna beat them, and I think we're gonna beat them going down the field. One thing about the Dolphins, you can't run on them. They've got a good run. They can't cover at all. So this is a bit, if you're a... If you're a fantasy Stephen Hill owner, which I do, but I'm not starting him, because that's too Homer-ish, you start him. I think they're going to test that. They're going to throw it down to him, and he might drop one, but I think he's going to get a couple for touchdowns. He might drop like half of them. He might drop like four.
39:00 Justin: I see, I just, this is a passing game, and we have almost no one in the backfield now. Rex Hilliard and like... I love Rex Hilliard. Rex Hilliard. You had a nice game. Yeah. He forced the fumble on the kickoff. It's just like a whole bunch of dudes. What a nice dude. I mean, I don't know what's happening with Sean Green. McKnight was limping. Like we are no good. I'd love to get Powell back, but Powell back, but I don't think he's coming back for another couple of weeks. So yeah, I see, you guys are gonna win this game. I can't, and if we win this game, we're in good shape. That makes us... Three and one in the division It's good. We could take the bills at the end, maybe spoo at the pads That gives us a good little division record and you know, then then we kind of start to control our own fate moving forward What do you think? Key's the castle? Jake: I thought I gave that already. No you didn't. I thought I- Justin: Don't say like- I kind of talked about it a little bit. No you didn't. I didn't? No. You did last week I talked about it. Stop Reggie Bush That's it? It's pretty much simple. I'd like to see them sack. I'm sick. I'm sick of this. Jake: That's the thing. I think I think they will. Yeah, they will. Yeah, I think they played very vanilla against them last time. And that was to not show them much. I feel like Damario Davis is going to add a bit of speed. You can blitz him. Yeah, and I I've liked the fact that Eric Smith has been injured So Antonio Allen's playing a little more on the D. It's a young D. Little speed on the field Stop Reggie Bush stop Reggie Bush on first down and I think you're in good shape They don't strike me as a very tricky team the Dolphins. So it's very like straightforward We're gonna try and out physical you so Just stop them from running on first down get them into second and eights third and eights You know get a sack here and there hit them hard. Maybe a little strip Maybe another score on defense like we did last time. Yeah Justin: I like it 27 10 27 10. Oh, I see like a real yeah, I really think they're gonna beat him Jake: I think they're mad. I think they I think they're confident Coming off of a loss mad and confident mad nice fucking pissed like we had that we lost it We're better than people say we are nobody believes they have the nobody believes in us Yeah, which is good cuz that's what you want and then you want the nobody believes in us going into the by four and four Justin: Doesn't sound great on paper, but it's not bad pretty in our division. We both had them anyway. I think it is Jake: I had them in five and five. So you think we come out. I had them in four and five. I know exactly where I had them. Justin: Four and five. Four and five. Right, but that's, come out, we lose one. Don't lose. And then win out. But that's, yes. All right. Jake: All right, well that's it for the J-Kingdom podcast. Justin: That's the recipe for success in the NFL, by the way. All right, well, let's see if they can hold it. Sorry I couldn't get your questions again because Justin has to go do other stuff. I got shit to do. Yeah.
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