2016 Predictions

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00:23 Jake: the Ever! My name is Jake and joining me across the mic we had mic issues. We are kicked out of our Studio, so we are very close to each other which is making me feel uncomfortable But 263 times in a row. It's Justin! Come on in baby. No, the water's warm. Yeah Come on over. I'm gonna cut you like I cut a morrow. Come on over Your boy loved him. So I did I thought he was gonna be so good He was gonna be so he's so bad. He was cut before his time. He did get signed. However, alright Well, let's talk about it. The Titans signed him There you go. Didn't even know that. There you go. Been following the news. So there. All right, so this is our official 2016 prediction episode. So we are going to have- Justin: It's kind of our kickoff episode. Jake: Kickoff. Everything else at this point has been bullshit. Justin: Complete and utter nonsense. This is the only- There will be like a few facts thrown into this one to make it a little bit better. Jake: So we are going to do- We're gonna talk a little bit about the Jet Kingdom fantasy league draft for like five seconds, cause that's kinda fun for those who are playing. Then we're gonna talk about cut downs down to the 53. Oh, I know what you've forgotten here. What did I forget? All the preseason games. Oh yeah, we don't care about those. Alright, well we'll bring that into our thing. Justin: We'll talk about the preseason in general. During the like cut down section. Right, sure. Got cut cuz he sucks like Jason Mara. Yeah Jake: Well, so then we will then talk about the seasons. We will predict the entire 2016 season including Jets records AFC East playoff picture Super Bowl champion whisk or enemy P only one of us has ever gotten this right. That'd be me Then we'll do the pick them. We'll talk. Let's go through every game Except for the AFC East like we do every year and then we'll do the AFC East what we picked the spreads which we call the throne picks and Justin: We'll talk about the actual game actual game that is this we're gonna predict like Jake: 1700 games right well, we're gonna predict the game. I guess let's not predict now. I guess we have to predict week one Oh, it's difficult because... We do. I mean, we have to. So I just want to set some things up. First of all, we're sorry this is a bad mic and bad recording studio today. Yeah. Sorry. Eat it. Okay, what you pay for? Send money. Two. There are two theories to picking games. I want everybody to understand this. There's this season outlook. That's where we put on our reality caps.

03:01 Jake: Where we're not fucking total retards who think that people are gonna go 16 and 0. Justin: Like when we talk about the Jets-Cincinnati game, we're both gonna have them winning that game. Well, today. But when we're picking the season before we pick them to win that game, we might have them win that game. Jake: So that's what I'm saying. When we're looking at the season, we're trying to be realistic about the season. We're probably still homer biased people, but we're- Justin: I think I had us with 10 last year. Jake: I think I nailed it. I think I had nine, but you guys get in the playoffs. Mine didn't. Ten usually gets it. Yeah, not an AFC. It doesn't. Yeah, it does. Usually get it. So then, so then we've talked about the season. We were going to talk. We're going to try to be realistic. Again, we're still homers. We're still Jets fans. It'll definitely be a little bit more. We're going to predict them to do better than I think anybody else in the planet has predicted them to do. Um, some people saying eight and eight. I think eight and eight is the highest I've seen any pick. Anybody. Yeah, most are saying eight and eight. Four below. I've seen sixes. I've seen sevens. Anyway, but then when we get actual week-by-week games Other than Justin a few times a year, Gail and Rogue, we're of course always positive. We always think that on a week-by-week basis we can win. Any given Sunday. So that is true. We can almost almost always win any given Sunday, but if I'm gonna get the season I'm not gonna predict us to win 16-17 games. Justin: or 16. I'm predicting a 19 win season. Yeah. Alright, so let's start with the Jake: fantasy week. So for the how many a year now? Four? Four. Four or fifth? Fifth year. Fifth or fifth? Fifth because you won. Fifth year. You won. I won. You won. Gareth won. Gareth won. Gareth won. Who? Yeah, so now we're in year five. Year five. So just as for the people, we're not really gonna talk about it a ton every week. We might talk like who won or whatever. But basically this is a fantasy league we do. It actually now has the same people in it every year. Although one person snuck out, one person snuck in this year, very last minute. So we didn't even talk about it on the podcast. But we have special rules where you have to play a jet, which fucked me over. And then you cannot play... You cannot play any player in fantasy who is playing against the Jets in reality. Justin: So in week one if Andy Dalton is your starting quarterback in this league, you cannot play. Or AJ Green, you cannot play. Jevon Bernard cannot play for you. Jake: So that's fun. We do it every year. Justin: So I think the interesting thing for people who are listening, who did you draft as your jet? Because you have to play Jets. Jake: And what? They both got cut. They both got cut. So who did you draft? I had Ross and I had Tompkins. Wow, you went two receivers that got cut. Because I was thinking that one of the, and I said to this while we were drafting, and I think you have agreed to me, I'm like, one of these clowns is going to make it. I kind of like trying to figure out, okay, I didn't think they're both going to make it, but I thought one of them would make it. Justin: So are you allowed to make moves? No, I already did. Oh, you did. Jake: I already picked up lost wings. Thanks. Justin: Bostwick? Bostic? That's still even risky. So yep I drafted Enunwa and Kellen Davis the

06:05 Justin: the tight end that made it through. Yeah there are people struggling. I don't really think that some Jake: of our players on the Jets are even in the fantasy thing. They might not be. I don't think like Marshall's in there. Anderson's in there. Some of these running backs. Whatever. We've been picking up all over the place. It's fun because of course you know the value of a player goes up Justin: tremendously like obviously the kicker number one overall pick was Brandon Marshall. That made sense. Jake: I mean not only is he probably top 12-15 anyway, although I don't think he's gonna do as well this year as as he did last year. I think that's... Justin: But he still was the number one over on it. Right, but I mean, years past... And like the Jets defense, I think, went in the first round. Jake: The kicker, because sometimes you throw that kicker in there and then that's your guy for the season. So I'm kind of happy, because I know I'm going to get zero points with this guy. If he continues to be on the team. I don't want him to get cut. Justin: Yeah, they did pick up a bunch of tight ends. Jake: Yeah, but I heard they haven't done anything with them. So I'm happy and hopefully this guy sticks. Anyway. So let's talk about cut downs and flavor pickups. Justin: Cut downs. I mean, do I just go with like the bigger name guys? Jake: What's your preseason first? Like what were your overall preseason? Like what? So you watched all the games. I did. We went to the- Justin: We didn't really watch the Philly game too close. Jake: I rewatched it on Game Pass, the full thing. Must have been terrible. Well, I mean, so. My feeling for just overall, all preseason long, is defense, when it's our starters, is going to be hard to do anything with. They're going to dominate. I think they're going to be a top five defense. There's just no doubt. When you get the seconds and thirds and whatever, it just didn't matter. But that game against the Giants, which is sort of the game that kind of represents the real... Now, even the Giants' offensive line is Swiss cheese, or the Jets' front is just fucking dominating. So, I know you know because you watch this stuff, but like at one point they set up... they had Richardson and they went 4-3. They had Richardson and Wilk on ends. And they put Williams and... Ugh. A Clendon Clendon yeah in the middle that yeah, they've been moving Justin: Interestingly enough Leonard Williams inside when they go to like a traditional 4-3 look which I think they're gonna end up in a lot because I Think the nature of the NFL these days the 3-4 base 3-4 is Toughen top it's getting tougher and tougher to play because you want you want a nickel in there and you don't want to have like three linemen three linebackers and a nickel I mean I guess maybe but that that guy has to really be able to rush Jake: off the edge. To be a traditional 3-4 the middle the nose tackle has to be big big boy. Big big and we don't have a big big. We don't have snacks. We don't have snacks anymore.

09:02 Justin: But Leonard Williams interestingly enough has been playing on the inside. Yeah. And Richardson, who you'd think would be on the inside, is playing, because he can play anywhere, I think. He's really good. Stunning. Jake: So anyway, my overall defense, I have no worries. The one guy I was worried about, he ain't on the team anymore. Justin: Who impressed you in the preseason on defense? Who did you say? Whoa. That guy, wow, stepped up. Jake: It wasn't just obvious, because the obvious player is like Wilkerson. I mean, he just was... Wilkerson played like half of a game. Yeah, but he just... But he was so... The difference of him being on the front and him not was like night and day. They could not stop it. Justin: They couldn't pass, they couldn't run, they couldn't do anything. We have traditionally beaten them up a little bit with our starters versus their starters, but... The guy for me... Oh well I think the rookie corner I've kind of, I'm not like wow but I'm like yeah I'm like he's... He didn't look that good to me but... Third game or fourth game he looked good. The guy who, again I'm playing against nobody but the guy who for me is gonna make or break this defense is Calvin Pryor. I was gonna guess Calvin. Calvin Pryor is... going to be a big time part of this defense and the scheme that they play and he's gonna be all in the box he's gonna be I mean he is a hitter and Mr. Beckham decided not to take a hit and that was a pick because of it and That boy wants to hit people he wants to play in the box. He wants to stop the run. He's he's all over I am impressed by him. I hope that he Plays a full season and doesn't have an injury or something like that We're working gets to really show it off because he's in his right position right now Some guys I was a little disappointed with in terms of I was hoping Darren Lee would win out win that starting Middle linebacker position. He did not know Aaron Henderson's gonna start He'll play more than a nickel type of situation where you want more speed I think Jarvis Jenkins will end up starting as an off as an outside linebacker unless they go more 3-4 or more 4-3 even still I think Jenkins will probably be outside and Henderson will be on the other side It'll be interesting to see the secondary is the secondary. I personally would like to see Marcus Williams starting as opposed to Buster screen. I think screens better suited to playing on the inside maybe Screen will start on the outside, but when they go into the sub packages, he'll move to the inside and Williams will play on the outside. They were experimenting a little with Williams playing at safety at times during the preseason. I don't think that works. A couple other guys who flashed, I thought was Rontes Miles. I think he can play safety. I think he can play in the league and the special teams.

12:02 Justin: I was really really impressed with him. He was a player that plays on special teams I know that they gave up a return against pit against Philly Brown again. I don't know how much of Like I don't know what was going on there. Like who was actually playing versus who would normally be yeah, that's true Jake: It was later in the game and it was like, you know, just... I mean, well, I guess some of the... Justin: The spellings look so much better than they had in like the punting... The punter looks really great. Jake: In the fourth game was on... Justin: I mean, the guy was pinning him every time and... And the coverage is great. They got fast guys to get down the field. The guy can hang the ball up there 50-yard kicks It's gonna make a difference because when you are a defensive team like we are I'd like to think we're balanced, but we're better on defense than we are an offense. Yeah You need special teams special teams makes that happen field position Jake: You just want to win field position and give your offense a better opportunity to score on short fields So speaking of offense, I think that's the thing that again. We didn't see a lot of them. I mean it was like Justin: The running game was non-existent in the preseason. Jake: Even the passing game was just off. There's rust. There's rust. Justin: There's timing. Jake: It going into the first game, I think, if you're a Jets fan and you're going to get crazy, you're going to have to wait a couple of weeks for this thing to start working. And the bummer is that the beginning of the season is the toughest part of the season. Really rough schedule. So it's like, I don't think that's going to work out for us. The whole maybe. the whole holding out, whatever the, I don't remember what the actual numbers were, we originally said the fits, and then we, where we ended up, and all that stuff. You know, Sucches is now with the Cowboys, I mean like, quarterbacks. Coulda had Sucches. Quarterbacks, quarterbacks been flying around, but um. Sam Bradford now with the Vikings. What is that, is that like fifth, fifth team in four years? Justin: For a first and a fourth. Ridiculous, they didn't want Gino for a sixth come on Jake: They thought they could win now or they think they can win now. Thank you with Sam Bradford So again, I think the thing I was I just it's rusty and you know Brandon Marshall Justin: The starters never the starters never played very no They never actually all played because Brandon Marshall did not play game three, right? Now Forte played game 3. Jake: Right, and he looked... Justin: They didn't get a running game going. Nope, they never got it going. Again, Anunma didn't play game 3. He had the concussion. And he's a big part of the running game. Oddly enough, receiver, but still. And they never really got... I didn't see a really good rhythm to the offense and they are a rhythm offense. Jake: Also one or two series. I mean the point is like they have you know I don't remember from last year again just trying to think back like on first drives were

15:01 Jake: we done I don't feel like this was a first drive team. It was a team that kind of got Justin: out there and got going. Once they got a rhythm they would score in a couple drives in a row and be like okay feed the mark feed Marshall okay now it's time to feed Decker over the middle okay good. We figured them out. It took a little chess match. It took them a little bit Jake: The thing that I'm excited about is some of the guys they kept are fast fucking guys Justin: The idea was to get faster Yeah, right the whole idea behind the team this year was speed faster on defense faster on offense Yep, I don't know for Tay is necessarily faster than Chris ivory If you were to give me one season and say here one season, I think I'd still want Chris ivory Blau Powell as my one two punch, right? Jake: I think that might be the mistake of the offseason. We signed in there's so much money though. Really? Just like a five-year thing. Okay, forget it Well, then he's always hurt. The other thing is why not? I mean, okay, let's go back put on our 2020 vision Like i'm now looking at a fourth string quarterback. We kept four quarterbacks. We're going to our team. We did. Man, that second round, we could have fucking picked up a nice running back. Probably. Yep, like this guy who's not even going to touch a ball this year. I'm even convinced and I have some talking points in our season. I'm convinced that even if Fitzpatrick just starts to... Shit the bed like he pulls a full suck chest. You're not gonna see hack no, they're gonna throw in petty Yeah, you'll see pet don't throw in petty It's like the seasons lost its petties game because he looked better in preseason He actually looked pretty good in that third fourth game, which which was painful to watch Hackenberg just I mean he could not throw a ball. No, he's lost. He was lost out there But he had like in the second game he had Justin: Didn't even know in third game. He played a little bit. Do you see how lost this is so funny? I was listening to some podcast and and just Cowboys fan on and and he obviously just you know sulking a little bit over Romo, but also like being really excited about Dak Prescott Prescott or whatever his name is and With hard knocks on you're watching goth. Yeah, the number one overall pick you're watching his Jake: Sounds like something you get like when you have sex I'm sure I've gotten it and you have golf I have you get golf. I definitely have got someone and get rid of go. I'm cool cream on it Justin: So I'm the tip right on the tip with a cute tip. All right, so All right And it was funny because he asked the question It did not in a not rhetorical way to to the host. He says Right now, would you rather have Dak Prescott or Jared Goff? Like right now, this guy's gonna go start for the Cowboys, granted, it's because the guy got hurt. But this guy Goff's a third-stranger behind two no-names. Jake: but one is out of well first of all again it's not even like oh okay Dallas has a

18:00 Jake: great O line we know you can't judge quarterbacks in three preseason games no Justin: and you can't judge them in a bubble but we've been watching this hard knocks thing and you get a little bit behind the scenes and you see Jake: Man, this guy fucking sucks. He's just dumb, too. He's fucking terrible. Not knowing where the sun rises and sets, kind of. I know it was fun, but he can't call to play. Like that's the whole thing. Like two watermelon mermaid dinosaur. Right. I like that. So Justin: It's like I've been watching. It's really weird that a fourth round pick because he doesn't have like the measurables or whatever like the bigger arm or that he's not six foot five skinny right you know whatever i mean wence is going to start for the eagles and you and i on draft day we're like i think wence is better like golf doesn't look and just look better from like two seconds of Jake: tape and four seconds of tape and from the four videos i saw wence is starting but that's because They're just going with the future. They're not concerned about it It's weird because it's one pick off and two teams with two different philosophies ones Like I don't fucking care that kids gonna play I peek he's a second round pick. He's playing Justin: Yeah, golf has bubble wrap on right now. Totally like we don't want him to play at all Jake: We don't want him to do anything. We want to we can win with this. They're like they're like look at case Justin: He like knows the offense like That's fucking Case Keenum. That guy's a backup, really. Jake: I can't wait to play Case Keenum. I hope he's still playing. Justin: No, I hope we play Jared Goff. He doesn't matter. I don't want Case Keenum. Case Keenum looks fairly competent. Jake: No, he looks fairly competent against nobody's. Justin: We don't play until late late. It doesn't matter. It's like game 10. All right, so let's talk about Jake: Let's talk. I mean, let's talk about the cut down. So what was the big surprises? The two big ones were the big names were a Marlin Justin: Millionaire, but milliner's not cut. No, he's back on though. He's on the IR. Yeah, so he's back on the team Trevor Riley back on the team Tommy Bohannon cut cut for I don't know, maybe they saved a little bit of cash. And that's it. Yeah, and the other guy plays special teams better than you and you're basically the same as same And we drafted bull handling like well, he was like a fourth fifth. He drafted him a couple years back Yeah, but I mean it was like But we ended up keeping Julian house air. Yeah running back fullback out of clarion Dude we have a guy on our team out of SUNY Cortland Jake: SUNY ac representing awesome. Let's talk. Let's talk to two big ones. So obviously milliner in a Maro Right. The first round and a second round. The mill and her back again, remember. He's on the IR, he's on the gents. Fine, fine. All right, so then Amaro's the big one. Justin: Next year he just won't be. He'll just be a free agent. Right.

21:00 Justin: He'll be gone. Amaro. I mean, I have two things. Second round pick, flush down the toilet. Jake: One, his first year he showed something. We tend to do that a lot. Showed some things. Oh, yeah, Stephen Hill. I mean we have a list of the second rounders Justin: Can we put Devin Smith in that category yet? Probably have to wait till next year's we flush him Jake: Um, I think it's a little soon. I mean I get what they're doing. We don't use tight ends Justin: He can't catch and and then if he could catch they would throw him the ball Jake: But for what game throwing him on the body can't catch that fourth game. He didn't watch He was terrible. He fumbled balls. He dropped balls. He doesn't catch the ball when it's thrown at his chest. Justin: I agree. I think it's a little soon, but I'm okay with it. No. I'm okay with it. No. I'm okay with it. All right. Fire fast. Anybody else? Jake: Trevor Riley was weird, but again, that was an injury. I think he's back now on the IR biggest weakness on the Jets. I mean I feel like I know what it is. I strengthen weakness, biggest strength, biggest weakness. Biggest strengths is Justin: is the defensive line. It's not even a question. And second, I would say wide receiver. Yeah. Yeah. We have three, we have two excellent, like we have a 1A, 1B situation and our number three is excellent. And we have lots of young Jake: talent. Justin: Some young guys to come up right behind him and learn. Yeah, I'll go with that I think the weakness is is the right side of the offensive line Right now with Giacomeini on pup. He's officially out till week seven, right? So we have Unproven guys starting at right tackle and I don't think Brian Winters is any good right and I'm not sure I mean, I said the right side, I don't know if Ryan Clady is good or not. Jake: Right. Justin: And he's injury prone. So with your right tackle out for six weeks and a backup already playing right tackle, you may end up by week four with two backups at your tackle position. And I don't know if he's any good. Right. I don't know. If I really don't I I knew what I was getting with d-brick it was consistent He wasn't getting hurt He was playing and I knew he was good and I know carpenters good as left guard manic man gold solid at center I just don't know so other than that though. I can't I can't really think of like What's he wanted to say quarterback? Jake: No that's not a weakness is deep. Justin: Well not from a roster depth perspective I'm just talking about like top line players playing. The part that I'm worried about is running back dude. It's thin. Yeah I remember we did end up using Stacey and Ridley last year. At times. Jake: had to try to win games and we have three guys.

24:11 Justin: Yeah, I Matthew Tucker, I don't know who these guys are. Jake: I'm just that, I'm really scared. Justin: A thirty one year old starter and Blaupau, who always misses at least a few games. Jake: Yeah, because he's small and he's going to get hurt, but he's good, he just can't carry. Justin: The top line is good, right? Forte and Blaupau. Sounds great, but you know you have to get into that third guy at some point. Jake: Poor guy. Justin: And Karee Robinson... I was sitting here with you watching that game and we were half watching Jake: All right, so I mean I think that's the thing that Justin: He didn't get hurt in the game that he just came out of the game and it was like No good Jake: so, you know if this season is a total fucking bust and we end up like with With not a lot of shit going on but keeping the four quarterbacks is is where I think a lot of Analysts are gonna look and say hey shitheads like Well only 53 players like players matter. They have four tight ends at the moment Justin: I don't think that's gonna end up being the case because again remember right now. There's one roster spot that is Immediately you need to flip you need to cut somebody after week showing when Richardson comes back after week one and then again when jacmine comes back you have to Jake: Again cut someone else that's to the tight end. Let's call it to say those today could be Right now we have four right that's what I'm saying, but to me those are the two that go Justin: Yeah, probably you know in all likelihood and there's some defensive lineman there that I mean I Don't know what we've had seasons where we've had like five defensive lineman I feel like we have like eight or nine of them. I'm just roster right now. All right, so but let's talk with the rookies? Jake: Okay, I mean One two, I'm looking at like the ones that we talked about during Dairn Lee He didn't really show a lot sorting by night. So Robbie Anderson. Oh, I'm drafted. Yeah, okay Okay, cool. Well, cool. Look fast. Oh Justin: Cool doesn't play special teams there. So if you don't see him on the field Jake: That's that's gonna be worse. Brandon Bowman is some tight end crap. We expect that Justin Boris I thought he looked okay just on so just I didn't think you look that great. He was pretty good Definitely okay. I don't know who this other whatever is. Oh, no Edwards are punter. He was great Hunter. Good pick good pick Christian Akenberg look terrible Jordan Jenkins Justin: Flashes, but I don't remember like going I think he's gonna start right. I think he's gonna be starting outside line back Darren Lee

27:01 Jake: Not gonna start immediately. Maybe bring him along. I mean, I'm my boy Jalen Marshall your boy Jalen Marshall He had some good moments. He drops. He's my new Maro He's my new Maro Justin: But he dropped once he drops at it third and six and he's over the middle Wide open and he dropped something in his brass gonna be pissed and then peak Well, they kept him on the roster, too I Marshall's gonna play so we're gonna see him play It's fine to have rookies on your time it's just it's just remember we have we have we have no middle It's a gold really like it's ik plus that last tan about Two years really flub the draft. Jake: We're 27 minutes in. Justin: Wow, we need to go. We haven't even. We need to keep going. We have to keep going. Let's go. Where are we up to? What are we doing? Jake: So we did cutoffs. Let's do season predictions. Justin: All right, let's do it. Game by game. Jake: All right, I have my thing. So here we're going to go game by game using actual reality. Justin: Reality. Jake: Not some bullshit Jets thing that we always talk about. Justin: You ready? Alright, not too much analysis here. We're just gonna roll not analysis, but no scores Jake: But we're gonna talk about why we think they're gonna win or lose this game and then a final season and then pretty good Justin: They're in the playoffs or not. So let's go. All right, we open at home on 9-11 for Cincinnati one o'clock win I Jake: have this as We don't lose at home on 9-11, I don't think this team is I don't think they're ready for the jelly I think we're gonna have a little struggle off the get and Justin: Think they're ready for this jelly. I don't think they're ready for the jelly So I have that who's the who's the Bengals number two wide receiver? Yeah, that's right Jake: They don't have running backs. They've got a good defense that always shows on to his perfect won't be playing I don't know. I think we're gonna lose that one. All right, all right Justin: Thursday night short week on the road on the road. Hello, Rexy Jake: and Buffalo Bills win. I have the winning on this. I have this as an avenge, Buffalo Bills avenge in season. That's a preload to the something that's gonna happen. So yeah, I have us winning this one because I feel like we're coming off a bad loss. You guys winning going 2-0 which is insane and you're just a homer. But all right, so we both have us at, you have and 0 and I was 1 and 1. Heading into the third game. Justin: Kansas City in Kansas City 425, so national loss. Jake: I have to winning this one. This is the... We have not agreed yet. This is the quiet before the storm. This storm is about to hit. Justin: I should mention that our first six out of nine games are on the road. Yep. And our first six... Thanks. games I think five of them are against playoff teams from last year. And one of them from a team that beat us twice last year.

30:01 Justin: Right. So like not easy. Super awesome. So we both have a starting two and one. Two and one. Okay. Right now. And then versus Seattle at home. At home at one o'clock versus Seattle. I have a solution. It's a loss. Two and two. Two and two. Jake: So we came out the same way. So I'm so so the first quarter and in some ways you get out of that first quarter two and two Justin: I'm okay with that. Me too. All right. All right moving right along at Pittsburgh one o'clock. I was winning Jake: Yeah, no, we're not winning. That's for we don't win against Pittsburgh. We never win against Pittsburgh. Not true We've beaten them before area. We will beat them again at in Pittsburgh at home I might have a sweat so I have is losing Pittsburgh going two and three US three and two Justin: Yep. Okay. At Arizona... Lost Monday night. 3 and 3. Jake: At Arizona... Lost. 2 and 4. 3 and 3 is exactly where I want to be. Well, you see, this is why you're home or picking. Because of where you want to be. Now what reality is. Now let's kick it into gear. So this is when the true fans, because now we're 2 and 4, is looking bad. Well, we're 3 and 3 and we're about to make our run. So let's make our run. Alright, let's do it. I have a ton of run. Justin: We have Baltimore at home. That's a win. Four and three. I think we win that. We go three and four. Then we're going to Cleveland to play the baby Browns. Yep. And we're going to win that. Five and three. You know they drafted 14 players and they kept them all. I know. It's like the Izzik 12 of which there are, I think, three left. Jake: Four. I have us winning against Cleveland. I will say Cleveland is the team that is gonna fuck up people in suicide pools Yeah, this RG 3 is gonna do some magic gonna do some at some point and there's like two or three games You're gonna be like I'm just hoping it's not against us but two or three games. It's gonna be like shit They're gonna win a couple games. So I have a sport for I was at five and three. All right All right at Miami six and three not worried about them at all. I think they're gonna be the worst of the Apes East. So I have us winning against them 5 and 4. So I'm on an upswing here. LA Rams. Yeah baby! Justin: All the way across the country. 1 o'clock game. Jake: Rookie Phenom. Justin: 7 and 3. Jake: So I victory so I was going on a four win streak right there You were right you're doing a six and four heading into the by yo Jeff hands who just jumped off the plate when we're two And four are feeling better with six and four. I got seven and three Justin: returning from the by Not gonna beat the pads at night Jake: Seven and four I agree we lose that we go six and five We do, however, beat the Colts at 9. Next week, 8-4. Agreed. We win against the Colts, 7-5. Justin: In San Francisco, they're terrible. 9-4. Jake: Terrible, terrible, 8-5. Justin: How am I at 9-4? No, no, because you suck at math. No, I'm good. We have two games left. Jake: No, we have three games. Miami, New England, and Buffalo.

33:03 Jake: Oh, I'm missing that one off my list. Where did it go? Justin: Why do they not have it here? Oh interesting. Okay, so Miami I'm at nine and four and we got Miami I think we sweep them Two years in a row. That's ten and four Jake: You're an idiot. Um So I have a splitting with Miami which we almost always do last year. We beat them twice easily rarely 8 and 6. Then at New England, the game that fucking matters! 10 and 5 loss. I agree. So we both have us losing to England twice this year. That's correct. I agree as well. 8 and 7. Justin: You're at 8 and 7? How'd you get there? I'm at 10 and 5. Jake: Yeah, well that's how we're all off. Justin: We get to play the Bills again to get into the playoffs and we beat them this time. 11 and 5, suck it bitch. We win against them. It's 9 and 7. Jake: Suck my balls, Roxy. It's not enough to get into the playoffs of the AFC. Justin: Now, I have us at 11 and 5 and I have us in. Jake: You're such a fucking idiot. You're the dumbest idiot. We have so much talent. Talent wins. We are 9 and 7. But I will say, there is a pivot game. And the pivot game is the... is the bi-week to New England. Right, so we have, so week 12, that's the pivot game. Justin: Well yeah, because we're coming off like four wins there, I think. Jake: I just think that's the... we can win that game. I think at New England 12-24 we're gonna lose. But we can win the at-home... After a fucking bye week. We should be able to come back and beat them. We beat them last year at home We should be able to beat just nighttime. I'd what look how much time we have I just I feel like that's too much time It's the perfect time. It's not get you get the Patriots after a huge bye No, Tom Brady's gonna be like but he's not gonna buy fuck you mode. It's unreal anyway So, yeah, so I think that's the pivot game. That's the game that makes us 9 and 7 or 10 and 6. I think 10 and 6, you make the playoffs. 9 and 7, you don't in the AFC. Well, I have a little bit of a bad vibe anyways. When's the last time we've won 11 games, you crack core? You're a crack core. Justin: 2010 with the worst team. So, week 12. Jake: And then, here's the, also the petty Hackenberg game is New England. I'll call it the petty game because I don't you're a dumb fuck no if we are 11 and 5 3 and 7 put it down 3 and 7 we throw in petty and I'm putting this by I'm just putting this right here Justin: JE has us at 11 and 5 Yeah, you have it at what? 9 and 7 all right now. It's on the official docket. Yes, it is. I don't care what you have down there Jake: Oh, this is real. No, it's fake. Alright, what's your AC's look like?

36:01 Justin: Okay, so I have else at 11-5. Jake: You're the worst fucking fan. Remember when you picked us against the rule? Justin: Unfortunately, I think the Pats still win the division at 12-4. Jake: So I actually don't, I think they win the division, but I think they win at 10 games, which would be the worst ever, but it's because of those first four. Justin: I have them going 1 and 3 and then only losing once after that. That's just not good. So 12 and 4. Then we have the Bills at 7 and 9. And then we have the Dolphins at 5 and 11. Jake: So I have the Pats at 10 and 6, Jets at 9 and 7. Missing the playoffs. Eight and eight bills eight and eight and a fire rexy sexy rexy fired again Justin: I think Rex is gonna get fired early Well, if they're under that and if they can't hit Nate Nate season I think I think they get to seven and nine only because they're gonna be like really bad And then they're gonna go back to something normal and then dolphin six and ten Alright, let's talk playoffs. AFC playoffs. Alright, I have to get my thing up. Why don't you go first? Jake: So I'm full reversal of everything I just said. Because I can't predict those not to get the playoffs. I have us getting into the playoffs. You're such a douche. So I have two coming out of the east. I have the Pats and the Jets. Jets and the wildcard. West I have to go under the Chargers. Um... Really? Yep. Wow. I have the North sending two, Steelers and Bengals. Bengals go in as a wild card. Colts winning the South, which you already know, you're going to pick the, with the, your jags. But I do have, and this is crazy goo goo, I have the champion of the AFC being Steelers. I think they take it this year. Okay. Bye! Which basically everybody in my list except for the Colton Chargers. Yeah, I guess that's three and three out Okay. All right Justin: So I have two out of the East the Jets and the Pats just like I do just like you do Yeah, the West is won by the Chiefs The South he's yeah the Chiefs Why not? Haven't they didn't they make the playoffs last year and didn't they win the division the year before like? Yeah, they're a good team. Okay um The north is one by the Bengals and I agree the Steelers are a wild card. Oh, I have flip Jake: I have to do with being 11 and five Justin: Okay and Jake: I got Jack and I have the Jags kind of the half that stores and in my projections here which again I don't I didn't do the full math So I don't know if these can have but I have to steal with being the first seed Being the first seat I have the Patriots. I think second seed. All right Justin: I'm not gonna give you my Super Bowl team yet someone to do the NFC first. All right, who do you have in the East? Oh Can I pick nobody? Nope Washington ain't gonna be the Eagles Washington. It's not gonna be Washington. Why why not they did last year, you know

39:04 Justin: Why why not the Giants are not good They're just not. They have a good defensive line. Jake: They have a 62 million dollar defense. Justin: They have Odell Beckham. Jake: Yeah. And... I think they're gonna start slow and they're not gonna pick it up. They can't run. Cowboys are not gonna win a lot of games. Eagles are not gonna win a lot of games. Redskins are not gonna win a lot of games. So Giants can win it. Justin: Why won't... Why can't Washington...okay. I'm not a Kurt Kutt Kutt believer. Doesn't matter why. He won his first years of full time starter and won me. Okay, fine. Fine. Alright, so you've won the world at the east? In the west, yeah. In the west we have Arizona and Seattle. Jake: Duh. Which one do you have taking it? Justin: Arizona. Jake: So I have Seattle taking it. Cardinal. I don't think the Cardinals heard. I don't think they're as good as okay on paper but I've Seattle 11 5 Cardinals 10 6 okay in the north Justin: They have only one Green Bay Go back old 12 4 and in the South a to Carolina and Atlanta Jake: Yeah, so I have to as well Panthers 12 and 4 take a step back from their one loss last year I have a surprise You like Tampa? Subp- I have Bucks? Cause of the last place schedule. Yeah, Bucks, we can end. James Winston runs it around. Alright, who do you have going to the Super Bowl? Alright, so. Super Bowl L, something L or whatever. Justin: Yep. Uh, you know that I love me some Russell Wilson. I know you love some Russian Jake: Alright, so out of your predictions, I don't know what's worse, an 11 win Jets season or the Bengals in the Super Bowl. Let's see, can you make it worse by predicting the Bengals win the Super Bowl? No. No, of course, alright, Sierra's gonna win because it's only Russell Wilson's alive. He's probably winning every Super Bowl. Russell Wilson. Alright. I'm so excited to see him in person. So while we have the same Super Bowl winner, we're both picking Seahawks. Justin: But who are they playing? Oh, you haven't played Pittsburgh. I haven't played Jake: Play in the FC North. Yeah, so I but I I don't see how people the only thing I'm worried about Pittsburgh I mean there was two for a while factored a their defense Was not good last year Seattle. No see what steel Oh stillers and they lost but Dupree for eight games and Big Ben big Ben such a wild card is he gonna play 12 games maybe I'm Bell missing three Justin: But that but that's okay didn't seem to really bother them cuz D'Angelo stepped in Antonio Brown just yes Jake: Is a maniac so well, that's pretty cool. So I have it 31 20 Justin: I don't have a score and then I rust gonna be low MVP Russell Wilson MVP retouchdowns Russell Wilson NFL MVP Jake: All right, we got to that

42:02 Jake: So let's just, well I wanna hear your crack statement again. 11 wins. Justin: 11 wins. Jake: And then how, so but you have this being an 11 win, you are we be, or a wild card, right? Wild card. And we go up against, in your fictional crazy world, where do we go up against? Justin: Either the Patriots or the Bengals. Jake: Alright, do you have us winning either one of those games? No, we're just, we're an 11 to win game, but we can't win. Justin: Oh, sorry, no, no, those are my top two, so we would play the Chiefs or the Jags, and I'd want some Jags action. Oh, yeah. And then I think we could win that one, but then losing the second round. Like maybe have to go to New England and just get our clock cleaned or something. Jake: Right. Alright, we're gonna steal yours. You have sewers know you have Bengals being second seed, correct? We're gonna beat him in one Justin: We're not wait, why don't we pick in this week's game? Oh, yeah, I was picking well, we're not now now Jake: Yeah, now let's take off the reality bubble Justin: So we're gonna jump to the jet Kingdom pick on so this is a pick them oh The pro football pick them on Yahoo that we host every year. Yes. And you can just go to Yahoo go into the fantasy section Look for pro football pick them. Yes, you can also go to The Jet Kingdom Twitter account which has a link to it. Yes, and you can click on it go to join a league Yes, our league is 4,300, 4,300, and the password is all lowercase podcast. Yes, and let's see. So that's how you get in there. We have a bunch of people in there. Jake: It's fun every year. And we talk about it every season, so every week. Every week we're gonna be doing this. If you beat us, you'll get talked about a lot. That is true. Right. True statement. True statement. Well stated. Stated well. All right, so let's go week one. So as we again, the rules for the for the for those who are, so this we pick with the spread. We do not talk about the HCEs. We have a separate segment called and we like to try and catch me not. Yes and every it's doing it. Four or five times a year we catch. Justin reading through the list he forgets about the AFC East and he reads it off and then I laugh and that's the fun of that. Then we throw him picks and then after throwing picks we pick the Jets game last we talk more about how we can win the game as we go from there. So kick it off for a Thursday night kickoff Justin: which is in two days three days. Super fun. Alright are you ready? Are you ready to get this started? I'm already made by picks. Oh good, alright cool. So we have Thursday night in a very rare, very very rare rematch of the Super Bowl. We opened the season with Carolina at Denver. Yeah it is rare. It is extremely rare because...

45:01 Justin: When you think about it, the schedules really have to align. It hasn't happened since Super Bowl IV. You're kidding me. I am not. Wow, thanks. Here I come with the facts. Yes, is that the only thing you can do in homework? Carolina is going to Denver, where Cam Newton says it's not a revenge game or a rematch. It is a brand new season and a brand new week. And Carolina is favored by three on the road. Denver with some guy named Seaman at quarterback. Give me Carolina. Can we call the Denver QB duck butter? Sure. We can call him Denver duck butter. Jake: Denver duck butter. I mean, first of all, you had Brock the Cock. You had Peyton Manning. He Justin: went out in a blaze of glory. You had Brock the Cock waiting there. Yep. And you had Seaman. And you had to choose between the cock and the semen, and you chose the semen. Jake: Well if you're in cowboy land, you have Dack the Cack. Justin: You have Dack the Cack with Suck Chez behind him. Sucking off the Cack? All of which is combined. Oh, so good. Alright. If Suck Chez only had a real... If he's only good. Can you admit now? No, I can't because I can't watch a guy in his first two years win four road playoff games and feel As though he wasn't let down somehow He had his favorite receiver taken away. They replaced him with Plaxico Burris and some Over the hill other washed-up guy Instead of keeping Jericho Cottree around who by the way was still in the fucking league Last year and played in the Super Bowl It's his favorite receiver. They let him go. He's got San Antonio Holmes who hates him. Doesn't work He got fucked and he had a any other head coach who did not care He would have gone someplace and showed that it was good. He had a head coach that just did his formative years were ruined. He would have pulled a coat of worn over by Carson Palmer. As soon as they pulled him out of bubble wrap, he exploded. Yeah, well I think that's because... He needed to stay in the bubble wrap for like another year. Or three. Jake: He could have been in the bubble wrap for many. All right, they won that way. I'll take Carolina. Keep going Justin: We got word. All right. I got Carolina to we were we're dipping into Cox and dunk butter All right. All right Atlanta. All right Sunday one o'clock Atlanta hosting Tampa Bay Atlanta with the standard three. I'll take Atlanta Jake: I will take Atlanta as well, although I think Tampa Bay again, and I have to be being better I just feel like they're gonna do a late surge Justin: Late late surge. Okay, Minnesota. Oh goes to Tennessee and Minnesota favored on the road by one and a half I don't get it. I'm gonna take the home team with the points Tennessee just flip my foot Jake: I just flipped it because of recent news any team that has well that I don't even know if they're gonna play him Justin: They shouldn't because he hasn't been with the team. If they play him, that means Sean Hill's really garbage. Jake: But why do they think that that is the answer to going to the playoffs? Justin: Because I don't... He's a lot more experienced than what they had.

48:00 Justin: Has Bradford even seen a playoff game ever in his life? I believe his rookie year he led the Rams to the playoffs at 7 and 9. That wasn't a joke. Jake: I just don't- I believe that did happen. I just don't understand. I mean, okay, so not to get more off on your sachs talk, but like When you're looking at Bradford versus Sanchez, like oh, like this is fun No, I mean, but one guy actually has I think a better overall record than the other Sanchez probably has Justin: better win-loss win-loss percentage as a starter yes Bradford's individual numbers are probably slightly better particularly in the area of turnovers and I think that that's what they're looking for here is a guy who can not turn the ball over because he can't go deep But I think I think they don't care I think they just want a guy who they feel like they have a they have a defensive coach They have a good defense they have a good running game for only a short amount of time here with Peter say and I think they felt like they're ready to ready to rock right now Jake: They're opening up the brand new stadium needs you can't have a back on hill. You can't have Shawn Hill But being Bradford, I think they should have gone for broke and gone and gotten like... Justin: There's no one to go get. It was like Sanchez was out there, Geno Smith, I'm sure was being dangled. And who else are you going to go talk to, really? You call up Phil, you say, hey Phil, you have three guys that you're paying a lot of money. Which one do you want to trade? Jake: I just... Justin: Alright, moving right along. Kansas City is hosting San Diego. Jake: The only thing that's good about it is that it does actually make you feel that quarterbacks are so... like a good quarterback is so rare. It does... It is so hard to get it. So hard to get it. That's why the Jets are keeping forward. Because they have got two... they got... Justin: They have won, they feel a community this year. Guys that they've drafted to try and develop to see what they can do. And they get three drafted guys and they want to make sure. One of which won't be around next year. One of which they've already made a decision on. Jake: But he is, but if he needs to come in for a game and a half. It is Geno. And we need to win that game and a half. It's Geno. Geno can win it. Geno can win against the Patriots. He's done it. I'm not saying he can win seven games in a row, but if he had to win a game or two, I think I'd rather give it to him. Again, if this is like his playoffs or bust, it's week 17 and... Justin: Alright, can we move on? No, people love this. No, let's get to the Jets later. Jake: I thought they were Gino. Justin: Okay, Kansas City is hosting San Diego, Kansas City giving seven to San Diego... San Diego's... I don't know what to think of them. I'm gonna just take those points in the first week. I'll take the Wales vagina okay New Orleans is hosting Oakland and

51:03 Justin: Giving one point at home. I'm picking Oakland. That's insane Jake: Nola at home West Coast team coming East. It's not really that far east. It's like halfway. Doesn't matter one o'clock Nope, no, I don't think you know bad New Orleans defenses It's really bad. They're they're not being coached by by Orion. So they're probably so instead of giving up 34 Justin: They'll give up like 28. Yeah, but they got a real deal I think we'll go and surprise a lot of people. Yeah, okay, Philly is... Nice, you skipped it. Thank you. Philly, mid-season form here. Philly is hosting Cleveland and giving four and I don't get it. I'll take Cleveland. I'm taking Cleveland. Four points? RG3? Especially with the current fit like... Carson Wentz rookie quarterback. Are you kidding me? Starting this guy's not gonna do shit. Yeah, I don't like it. Nothing. Green Bay goes to my Jacksonville and Jake: Green Bay is gonna wait, are you gonna call them to win every week? Because now that you're at Jacksonville. Justin: Especially since they're getting four and a half here at home. Gimme, gimme, gimme those points. Green Bay's gonna destroy them. Houston is hosting Chicago. This is still here at one o'clock. We'll get to Houston is hosting Chicago. Houston is giving six. Brock the Cock. The new running game, defense, JJ Watt. Play! Jake: There's cowboys that play Houston? Because there's a lot of cars that stack the cack. I mean, you would just be a dick and a dick. Justin: I don't know how they work out this. Yeah, I mean, they could. I don't know. Give me Houston. Jake: I don't think Houston, Chicago, I think, is going to win two games this year. Okay. The two games that yeah two games. All right, uh, Dallas Justin: Could be picking our 425 game So by the way only three four o'clock games is this this week But that's because we have two Monday nighters right and a Thursday and a Thursday Which we always have but I'm too many nights I wish I really love that 10 that 1030 East Coast Monday night game. It's so I like the for Jake: I like a four Sunday Like a foursome on four. Yeah, because it's just three Justin: One of them is an AFC East game So we're gonna skip that and we go right to Dallas who is hosting the Giants and the spread is zero It's not off. It's actually a pick and as bad as I think the Giants are I'm gonna pick them Because I think the only thing that they are gonna be able to do is stop the run And if you make a rookie quarterback beat you you're in good shape Because they got snacks up there. I mean that is that they can stop the run Jake: I think I feel like this will be deck the cax up coming out party. I don't think he has it

54:04 Jake: So, I'll give you Dallas. I watched the Giants play and like, they did not look good. Sorry. Justin: Indy. Jake: I said they're... Justin: I said as bad as I think they are... Jake: They're gonna start slow. Like they always do. Justin: Indy is hosting Detroit and giving four, I think that's one too many, I will take Detroit. No. Jake: Indy's gonna be all about the points. Justin: of No, and you're not surrounding a franchise quarterback with talent no good. All right Monday night we're skipping Sunday night because it's an AFC East game Monday night Monday night. We got a 710 kick off. These are both off by the way. Yes, don't know why Yeah, don't know don't know why Washington Hosting Pittsburgh is off. I don't know why San Francisco hosting LA Maybe they don't know who's starting for San Francisco yet, but I don't think it matters. Yeah, they've already said it bling gabbard starting right now I don't know why these games are off. I Don't get it. I am gonna pick Washington here and I'm gonna pick San Francisco. I'm just gonna pick the two home teams Jake: No, I'm taking Pittsburgh. Justin: They're just off. I don't have lines. So I'm just picking them as though there's no line. Jake: If it was five, six points, I'd take Pittsburgh. Justin: On the road on a Monday night opener, it's tough. Jake: And I'm taking Los Angeles because I think this is going to be the two worst quarterbacks playing all, like, just these two terrible quarterbacks. But one of them actually has a real running game, and the other one doesn't. And that's all I know about that. So all right. OK. All right. All right. Let's get it done. Justin: Let's do it. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. So we have Buffalo, who are, by the way, in an odd phenomenon, all four AFC East teams, none of which are playing each other. So there's four games, all getting points. Jake: Okay. Justin: All getting points, the Jets are the only home team and we're getting points. Okay. So we have Buffalo on the road at Baltimore and they're getting three points. Tara Taylor goes home to where he came from, Baltimore. I think he was a backup there for like three or four years. And I like Buffalo to beat The Ravens whom I don't think are very good. I Do not trust the fact that flacko is gonna feel very comfortable just yet coming off of his big injury and I think

57:05 Justin: I've always thought Rex was a good like, you know game one coach like Game one he gets his guys random ready to rock and Turag Taylor is gonna want to show him That's worth the $60 million. That they picked the wrong guy in Flacco. Right. Right? Yeah. Yeah. 2017, Buffalo. Jake: I think Buffalo, again, I see them as an 8-8 team. So they're going to win half the game. So this is one of the ones where I think Baltimore could be the worst team. I mean, up there. Like, they're just not, maybe Rams will be picking third. Um, so... Well, according to Jeff Fisher, I mean, they're not gonna go 8-8 again. I mean, first of all, can we talk about Hard Knocks being the most boring fucking season ever? I mean, it makes the Falcon season look exciting. Like, oh my god, look at Matt Ryan. He's a fucking talker. Justin: Yeah, well, they're this quarterbacks an idiot the other one who cares girly seems interesting, but they don't have the mic on them all all the time Tae-Von Austin seems super interesting. But again, they're not really focusing on him They're trying to focus on like some of these, you know I'm they try to pick like the rookies who are on the bubble like this Austin right Davis guy or whatever his name is or whatever and I think I swear I would much rather see way more Jared Goff, but I think that the Rams are like no He's terrible he's very bad Jake: No, I also think any team where you have one we have is One person doesn't know where the Sun rise and sets another one who doesn't believe in dinosaurs, but does believe in mermaids like and but not even no scientific proof no and then he walks dinosaurs an actual dinosaur like with Fossils and like and he's like see did you ever see one of these? I can't exist then All right moving right along all right, so I have Buffalo Buffalo winning 2419. Justin: So this is that was a one o'clock game. This is a four o'clock game. We have Miami going to Seattle. Rough place to open your season. Jake: They start opening at Seattle at New England. Justin: That's brutal. That's brutal. At least they get Garoppolo. We don't get Garoppolo. No, we so I have I don't think so. I have Seattle winning 2410 and covering that 10 and a half. Jake: Yeah, I see this as an absolute spankage up there. I have not heard a lot about Miami. I haven't watched any of their pre-season stuff. I haven't heard any news coming out of there. All I know is like, I've heard like, ooh, Aaron Foster kind of looks okay. But like, they're just not- Tannehill's not good. Landry's good. I think the jury is like slowly coming back in like of the what a 12 member jury

1:00:01 Jake: I think like 11 are in like on like he's not that good Yeah, like we can give him the better guy outside Justin: But guess what his head coach the whole time he's been in league has been an offensive minded head coach His first two years in the league were his offensive coordinator was his coordinator from college. Like he knew the system. This is the year you'll find out because Adam Gace... The Whisperer. Well he's done a really good job wherever he's been. If they're good. Well last year he did a good job with Jay Cutler, who you'd say is like one of those bubble quarterbacks, right? Jake: Like he's maybe good, but maybe not so good. Maybe All right. I see. See I'm destroying them 2713. Yeah, I got it 24 10. All right Justin: Sunday night Graces great game other than the Jets Jake: First of all, how cool for us that we get to go to a game and then come back and watch this game? I'm so excited for this game. Like I can't tell you this is the game of the besides the Jets. Justin: Well it sucks that there's no Brady. Jake: No, I can't wait because this to me is our season in a nutshell. Watching that guy and I'm watching him in his preseason. Justin: Me either. I haven't seen Grappler. I can't wait. I can't wait because it's like... And this is a really good defense on the road. Yeah, this is gonna be tough. It's it's New England getting six points in Arizona getting six points in Arizona and Arizona is Coming back off their heartbreaking season from last year where they were very good. They're an excellent team Fuck the pooch in the last game heard his finger couldn't throw the ball whatever yep and carolina is just really great um so i like arizona in this game i think arizona can put up points i think new england's defense is gonna be actually like very good belcher's very good at coaching towards what he needs to coach towards I think that defense is gonna be really good. I Think they have good players at all levels of that defense at the line linebacker And I think they have a really good corner and mountain Butler and some pretty good safeties there With all that said Arizona's just got a little too much for them It's a little too much. It's just too much. So I'm gonna go with a 23 14 victory for Arizona. Jake: I don't see this being close. Again, this is my heart talking, but I don't see this being close. I don't see this being competitive. I don't see this being fun, other than if you're a Patriotator, because this is gonna be a destruction. I have a 30-14 and I see at least. at least two touchdowns coming from defense. Justin: That'd be so fun. Yeah. I have to run. Pick six. Done. The thing is I don't know if the Pats can run.

1:03:02 Justin: I don't know if they're gonna be able to run on a team like Arizona. Jake: Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be able to run and then I don't think this guy's gonna be able to go out and just whip it down the field. Now they do have their too tight end offense thing back. Well it's a thing and it worked for a while for them and then the guy went and murdered somebody. Yeah but when you have Tom Brady a lot of shit works for you. Justin: They forgot to just make it through the first four weeks. Jake: Predictions for them by the way what do you think? So you guys are actually winning huh? I need power for my laptop. I'm down to like 7% here. You'll make it. I don't know if we're gonna make it. We'll get one more game. Justin: Okay. It's a big one though. It's the Jets. Jake: So let's talk about it. Justin: Jets. Cincinnati. We're going. One o'clock. We're going. We're going. 9-11. We're gonna be- It's 8 in the morning. Gonna be there early. Got it. Make some eggs. Jake: Oh, I see. Justin: Bacon and eggs. Big, thick bacon. Thick, cut bacon. Broc the cock bacon. Broc. The cock bacon. Yeah. Oh my god. So good. So good all right, so We get to see the jets starting offense against a good defense. Yes, we get to see our defense against a good offense Here's the only thing that worries me about this game What andy dalton historically has fucked us up? Last year didn't was it last year or two years ago? Four touchdowns or something he's thrown for a lot of touchdowns against the jets and hasn't been stopped very often, right? I think last year we knocked him out of the game And he still threw like three or four Touchdowns boop. He's historically really ripped us. I want Andy Dalton playoff Andy Dalton Jake: Not week one Andy Dalton problem is Justin: They know they've legitimately cut us up a couple of times over the last number of years Rex's defense he's cut up last year. I think we played him and I think they beat us pretty good It was either last year or before but He doesn't have the same weapons. It's AJ green, right? He doesn't have Tyler I for right now. He's on He's injured for at least four weeks. Marvin Jones is gone, Muhammad Sunu is gone. He's got the number two receivers, either a rookie or a just random dude. It's Brandon LaFalle, so it's like nobody. Question for you. Yeah. Jake: So Revas. Do we still have Revas Island or do we still have Revas with help? Because last year, Revas Island got visited a lot. That's it. I think by young fast guys. I think it's a Justin: Reavis with help. Yeah, I think this took a situation Although it'll be interesting because again, I don't know who the other weapon is here It'd be interesting to watch if they decided to read this on the bad guy Yes double double AJ green with not Reavis. Yeah, not waste them and double feel like Todd Bowls He doesn't do that. I don't feel like he's a very like He also plays his scheme. He plays zones, which doesn't play to like, Reavis' strength.

1:06:04 Justin: I don't think it plays to the personnel strength. I think we're a man. We got that down. I would love to see Calvin Pryor knock someone on their ass. Like, I'd like to see him collide with Jeremy Hill and knock Jeremy Hill backwards. I think David Harris playing will be a key. because he can cover like guys coming out of the backfield he's smart he knows where like oh Jake: shit there's Giovanni Bernard let me go let me go run that little down generally the the position that would fuck us over like last year we would get fucked by Bernard he'd like take Justin: Mario Davis would not keep up with him. So we'll see how that goes. I have us winning. 27, 16. Jake: So I think we're going to have a good D, but again, I don't think this is a yet. More during the regular season we might see shutdown Ds where we keep teams to 12 to 13 points. I don't know what, I actually don't know what the number is. I think probably under 17 is a shutdown. Zero is obviously really good. But like if you keep... Nowadays I think if you keep someone under 20 you've done a pretty good job. So Okay, I think we're gonna do a good job, but I think it's gonna be rusty as fuck Steve. Is that right? So I just think this is gonna just this game when we get out of it, we're gonna win Don't pay attention anything I said before we're gonna win the game But it's gonna suck. It's not gonna be a fun game. It's gonna be like one of these just turnover fucking things and like I Just don't Just don't think our offense from what I saw in the preseason doesn't look like it's firing on all cylinders And I think it's gonna take a while to get it going You know fits just looked off So I think we can win this game just by playing amazing D and by I think third and fourth quarter You'll see us come around like I think that actually see us winning this in the fourth quarter Like I think we'll be down you know 14, 14 10 going into like the second half that kind of thing like that's where I think it'll be that kind of game um but I think we can win it uh I don't you know Andy Dalton you're right he rips us up but he's I don't know he's one of those bubble guys like is he the greatest thing ever or if he can never ever get it done I don't know um for this game I hope he never gets it done. So I'm gonna have us. Us win the game. Jets win. Alright. Uh, oop, what was your score? My score- my score. Jets 20. Bongols 17. So it was close. I think it'd be close. Alright, so that's it man. That's an hour and ten minutes of that fucking podcast. Um... That's it. I don't want to talk about anything else. No Twitter accounts, no Facebook, no bullshit. Subscribe, leave us reviews. This is one of our favorite episodes. We will be back weekly. Remember, our promise, our try to promise is if we win, we try to do two

1:09:03 Jake: podcasts during the week. This is so unlikely. Really? Alright, I mean, let's just be realistic about it. If we lose, we'll do zero podcasts. If we win, we'll do one. No, we do this every week. No, we're not even sure if we'll do it last year. But whatever, we give it a shot. We try our best. We try. We need to get some better travel mics. Listen, if we had sponsors, we need some better travel mics. We need sponsors. Travel mics. And sponsors. And travel mics. And people who will pay us. I don't really want money, I just want travel mics. I want money. Alright, let's get out of here. Alright, let's get out of here. Um, so Jake and Justin, for always, welcome to the season, and as always, let's go Jets.