Bad Decisions

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Onan! You've got his best in life. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they'll hear the lamentation of their women.

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Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=1 @ 20.7s → Jake; other-primary cluster=0 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Jason-ref Jake cluster 1 sim=0.79.

00:20 Jake: Welcome to the Jet Kingdom podcast. The longest run I knew you'd just podcast. I'm Jake. The country version? The country version. Well, because I named the podcast Bad Decisions and I was thinking like, it's a bad decision to go with the bad quarterback. You gotta go with the future. Future is bleak. It is bleak. Outcome is bleak. I'm Jake. He abundances Justin. We are here. We're still here. We haven't gone anywhere. We just took a bye week. We took a bye week. Just like the Jets. Took a bye week. We would normally do in the bye week. We'd do like a grades. It's all F's, let's move on. What the fuck? They're so terrible. It's all F's, let's move along. Justin: It's so disappointing. Moving right along. Yeah. Jake: Any, let's be thankful for like, is there anything on the Jess team right now you're thankful for? Is it really that bleak? Are you like down to like bleak land? I mean, I know you're really pissed about this decision. Justin: Very, I am more upset than I normally get about these types of things. And you're such a hypocrite because you're all like, you don't get such a head coach until you gotta keep them forever. This is, this one makes me quite judgment. See you again next time. I... is there anything to be thankful for about this particular version of the Jets? Honestly, I don't know. They are... Quincy? He's a nice young talent. Leonard Williams? Yep. I mean... fuck it's hard. hard to pull the good stuff out a lot better So we played the Rams last we spoke. Jake: Interesting enough. Justin: Since last we spoke, we played the Rams. We had a Bryce Petty sighting. We were ready for Petty for one week. He started. He lost. He did. To the Rams. You said he played good. Actually, I think you said he played.

03:47 Justin: I Who looked like he didn't want to throw the ball more than four yards Jake: I watched a quarterback in the first half try to throw the ball and have some plays and be successful with one And then I watched the second half. They wouldn't let him throw more than four feet. No, that's his decision No, it's not once the play starts. He can throw the ball wherever the fuck he wants They had him on a leash in the second half every comment he could throw the ball everywhere Justin: He wanted anywhere he wanted he could throw the ball. It's up to him Whatever. No one's out there being like holding his arm and saying no, I and Yeah If you just take the one, take the intersection away. Fine, 163 is not a, not a lot to begin with. No, it's not. A good D. Great. 163 not a lot lot to a lot to begin with. Backup line. Pull 50 of it, it out. You're down to 110. Okay. 18 completions for 110 yards. That's good. Awful. Yeah, awful. Jake: No. Justin: Even the touchdown pass was a trick play. You watched, you watched trick play. Geno Smith. I watched them. Jake: Against the Bills. I watched them get into scoring position. In five throws, throw three interceptions. Justin: Is that this? Listen, I've seen bad, but this is a whole game. Jake: I've seen the worst. First. Justin: If you can't really talk about it and be like, all right, he didn't play well. If you want to be like, let's make an excuse and let's make another excuse. Let's make another excuse. Holy moly, you've been doing it for fifths for fucking two years. And you've been yelling at me about it. That's right. Jake: So here it is. He did not play a good game. I don't think he played a very good game. I don't think- And he had a chance to win in the end. Justin: He got us in scoring position all of one time and we scored and the rest of game we punted the ball away and turned the ball over. Yep. And he had the ball at the end of the

06:01 Justin: game to go down the field and he didn't do it. Throw pick. Yep. Did what Jets quarterbacks do Jake: apparently. Right. And that's what happened. But to me that's not the story of Bryce Petty. That's his first game up against a good D and I think he played okay. I think he played well for my expect- my expect- here's the thing. I have expectations. I didn't expect him to come out and beat Tom Brady. I didn't come out and expect, you know, butt fumble or four picks and three throws. Justin: You know what though? You should win a game when your defense doesn't give up a touchdown. I totally agree. You should win a game when your defense gives up all of three field goals. Jake: Are you? Here's the thing. Are you have you seen enough and and let me remind you I've been podcasting you with you for ten fucking years Oh my god the longest running. I I've heard you through the years of Sanchez Oh, we're worried that we need three years shut the fuck up. You shut the fuck up. I am Justin: angry at the decisions that our head coach or whoever made because I want to see Bryce Petty play again this week. That's right. And next week and the week after until we know. Jake: What was your point the other day about soccer players? Like you don't get good playing against nobody's. You get good. Justin: You can't get good in the MLS as an 18 year old. Right. If you're good, you're in Europe. Same thing for Petty. He can't get better if he's taking second string reps in minimal reps in practice and not playing in the game. The mistake is he has to play in the game. Jake: Stupid. He should have been ready to play for the next two weeks or last week. He has a week off. They should have gotten him in there, learned the playbook, given it, widen up the plays. Have him go in against a really good team. Not even one. Shorten it down. Cut it down. Justin: Get really good at this. The problem with the playbook was like, here's the four plays you can do. No, but dude, we ran the ball. We ran the ball for a lot of yards. Forte had 100 yards. Powell had another 30 or 40. We ran the ball. We can run the ball against the Pats. We'll be able to run the ball against them. It's a guarantee. I understand. You don't need to widen the playbook. You need them to get good at... Great. Good at all the snaps. Jake: And go in there and play against a really good defensive mind-to-pit coach. Not a good team. Not a good defense though. But their defense is not confusing people. Justin: No, they give up a lot of points. They're not a great defense. Jake: Whatever. I... I would have loved to see him play. Justin: Me too, we're not in disagreement. The only thing we're in disagreement about is that I didn't think he played well against the Rams and you think he played well. I think he- Your comment was he played well. Jake: That was your exact words. I guess he played well to my expectation. My expectation was low. He's not a starter. He's a guy who like- Expectations are high. Get used to it. That's going down the shitter. Justin: All right, man, one. Well, the rest of this game was bullshit because we gave up

09:02 Justin: our defense played a good game. They gave up three field goals and their fucking punter basically beat us by kicking everything inside the 20 bombing an 80 yarder when we had them backed up and thought we'd get good. field position and Petty would like, you know, it's just not all always on the quarterback, but we'd pick up like, you know, a tiny little drive. Like you'd pick up two first down, three first downs. Like not everything was three and out, but you're still not even past the 50 because he's not going down the field because. Jake: Quincy new one has one catch for seven yards. He didn't drop anything though. There's nothing Adam Throw the fucking ball Brandon Marshall. So it's it's I think it was I think it was they had him on such a tight leash They didn't like give him a playbook and well, then that's not a fair assessment of him. I agree in that case Justin: I'm even more angry right? I just think he was gun shy. Let's move. We don't know my guess is More on the he was gun shy to just let her rip and checked Everything down as opposed to he wasn't allowed to throw the ball down the field Jake: Well, because if you're saying you're not allowed to throw the ball down the field, you're basically saying oh, we're gonna lose It's the plays they call is how conservative they get it's and there was a definite difference I mean the first and second the first and second half the first half they he took his shots and it worked Justin: Second half there was no shot. No, you can't say it worked because they scored once Once is better than zero but scoring one time Jake: Yes in one half of football when the other team scores zero times not true. They didn't score touchdowns, dude Justin: Scoring once we have what touchdown? Yeah half of football. Yes is not like Good you can't win. What was the game's averaging? What was the score? 14.10 against the Rams six last week Jake: What was it you're talking about two bad teams 7-0 the Rams are up 7-0 against the Justin: Would you call the Dolphins in offensive juggernaut? Is that what you're trying to say? They're an offensive juggernaut I'm saying they're something no, no, neither are the Jets But you can't say that's good. You can't say scoring once in a half is good. You have to average at least 20 points. At least! Great! Dolphins won! You can't score 10 or 14. Jake: Dolphins won by just by sticking in there. It went up against really good D and in the end they turned it out and wherever they win the game. They were down 7-0. They scored 0. I watched. I saw what they did. I know. I'm saying that D is good. Our line is it was really banged up. I think Petty did a good job for what he was given. That's it. You can't just be like, oh, the first half was good Justin: cause he scored a touchdown. No, cause he did. And got us in no other field goal position, no field goal position, no scoring position, no.

12:01 Justin: It wasn't even like oh, man, he drove it down to the 10 and then turned it over in the red zone Nope, we're not there was nothing even past the 50. We're not even doing nothing past the fifth I disagreeing we are cuz you're like he played good in the first half and then the second half they tighten the reins That's right. No, that's my opinion, but they scored once it wasn't like you played good You can't say that you can say D You can say he... Jake: I'm thankful for driving you crazy. Justin: You can say he scored once in the first half so that was better than the second half where they didn't score. Bingo. You can't say he played good or well or any derivative of that word. You can say he played average. Average in the first half because at least they scored a touchdown. That's right. And he played like shit in the second half because they didn't even get into... Field goal range once that's right. So all I needed was a field goal It's all I needed Jake: Yeah He's a fucking rookie. He's not a rookie. Oh, yeah Fuck you the guys never played a fucking full football game of NFL until one game look look up this player card It doesn't say rookie on it. Hackenberg's does It's Hackenberg's a rookie a guy who has not played his Prescott's a rookie Yes Prescott is a rookie. Goughs a rookie. Wentz is a rookie. Yeah. Are you just naming off all the people who drafted? These are rookies. Petty's a rookie. Not a rookie. He's a rookie in my opinion. Jimmy Garoppolo, not a rookie. He was what, third year? Second or third? Either way, not a rookie. Alright, who's your fool of the fucking game? Who the fuck cares? The whole team. The whole team again? They fucking sucked. Do we have any injuries? Please. Hmm Justin: No, I have no idea We have the bi-weeks so like it gets quiet knows I don't know. Alright moving on. I don't care Terrible, how about we just get to the thing fucking Fitz is starting again Like that's the thing let's just do that Fitz is starting discuss I'm pissed. Me too. As much as we agree or disagree on what Petty did in his first game, we are both in 100% agreement that once you make that move, which should have been made a couple weeks back, or last year, you stick to it. You don't give him one start and say, No. Fitz was actually just too injured to play, so, and Petty didn't take his job. You don't lose jobs to injury, you get them taken, and Petty didn't take it. That's like what Bowles was saying, essentially. What a fucking dumb fuck move. I have never been... so quick to be like fire a person. I think he should be fired. This is fireable to me. He can win one more game the rest of the year with Fitz,

15:02 Justin: whatever and go four and 12 and that's an easy fire. You're an idiot. You could have just played petty, played it out, not won again and been like, fine. You saw what you had. Instead you played a guy who's not gonna be on the team next year. We'll be right back. Still didn't win any games, got nowhere, didn't make the playoffs. And if anything, you maybe hurt your chances out of the draft pick because you might win. Yeah, I might actually win more games with that. I'm just going to win more games with heady. I'm just going to win more games with heady. So you're fucked up in every fucking bit of it. You're fucked up. I think it's just super stubborn. Jake: And I think there's a part of it I really like. I like a guy who, you know, we talk about the media. He doesn't feed them. He doesn't talk to them. He's like very, you know, just stick to his guns. But this is one of those times where he kept saying, like, shouldn't you be evaluating? I'm not evaluating. It's not about evaluating. It's about winning football. And you're like, yeah. Stop it. Yeah, but stop, right? Justin: And yeah, good. I'm happy you're loyal. And that's a great quality and trait. But you know who's not loyal? Bill Belichick. Jake: And you know who wins the lot? Bill Belichick. He could hug fucking Tom Brady in a second if he needed to or wanted to. Tom Brady even said in an interview the other day, he's like, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they cut me towards the end of my career. Justin: But he does it, they trade away guys all the time. And they're like guys who are like, you know, still good. And they trade them for nothing. And they don't care. They're like, fuck it, we don't need you anymore. I just don't, I just. Jake: Replenish. I like sticking to a guy, I like being loyal, I like all that, but again, I'm not, I think the problem is my alignment to this team is in a long-term vision. I'm a Jets fan, I'm 44 years old, I plan to be on the planet for another 44 years, hopefully. I'm looking at the long term and I know that both should be too, but he's not because he's an idiot But head coaches don't look at the long term because they want to look at their record and their record is Justin: You know how they get their next job. He should go talk to Management he should go talk to the owner and say hey, here's the deal We're not winning this year It is apparent I need you and I to be on the same page here. I need to know that I'm gonna be around for a couple more years so I can develop some of this younger talent that's sitting on the bench and it starts with the quarterback. So I need to know if Petty can play for me next year and if he can't, great, I need to know that. So we can go draft another one. And the same thing with Hackenberg, I need to know. Right. Like I need to see. See? I need to see him against real like weren't luckily we're not in the position that like the rams are in right where they waited and got like scrutinized and whatever and then golf plays against Miami and he looked like shit to me but. They're stuck they have they have to play him and they kind of have to play him for like. a couple years, like they really need, like Washington came out of the RG3 thing pretty good

18:00 Justin: because he got hurt and ended up with cousins who wins games and plays well. And he's a good quarterback. He's a starter in the league. We don't know. And he was a fourth round pick. We have no clue. This would be the same situation that like, the same career trajectory that cousins went through would be the same thing for like, Petty, right? I just- The only thing is he's not sitting behind like a number one or two overall pets. That's the beauty of it. And that is the beauty. It's like, go, who gives a shit? Jake: Shit fits, who gives a flying fuck? Put in Petty, put in, and put in Haggabard towards the end of the year. on our website, www.beadaholique.com to purchase beading supplies and to get design ideas! Yeah, Eddie sucks fine you figure it out. Let's see if I can play yeah I mean I want to see him play even if he plays one or two games and you like okay Justin: We're if he gives a high and cares so petty starts if he's not playing well you put in Hackenberg Just dress them at least dress them. He's not even dressed. There's no last week Fitz is injured, but he's the backup Jake: No, and I and I the point no thing I can't and Justin: I can't stand for it like I can't stand for the dumbness of it and the short-sighted Jake: I just don't know where I'm dumb it is. I don't know where it's coming from. I don't know if it's him I don't know if it's worth it if he'd been told comes down to him but woody johnson could be telling what to do then Matt woody's really dumb cuz he's in it for the real long term. There could be some contractual thing This is just something again. I'm not willing to go out and say the guy I don't fire Head coach Jeff a year and a half. It's just stupid. Well, I don't think he's stupid. I think this is stupid I think it's a bad decision. It's a stupid decision, but it's not it's not it's not one of 17 bad decisions My biggest issue is that this is the second time that I feel like it's the same bad decision because again, I'm gonna fucking go on this till the end of the days. Justin: I don't need to hear it. You wanted it last year. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. Let's go. We should move on. We should have moved on. The AFCs Roundup. Pat's win. Great. What? They lost! They lost. The Pats didn't lose. Yeah, two weeks ago they lost. Yeah, but they just won again. OK, but they lost. They lost. Good for them. They lost to Seattle. Yep. The Bills, they won. They beat Cincinnati. And the Dolphins won. They beat the Rams. That's cool. And the starters, why couldn't we have gotten golf as our staff? This is shit. They didn't score touchdown. I know. What's the difference? I know. They scored nothing. How the Jags doing? Well, they lost my jags my fucking jags. Well, we'll be playing them next year. It'll be fun. Yeah. I'll be very torn. I mean they've We've won one more game than they have I won't know who to root for he's so tough for you It's gonna be tough. Do you think Cleveland's gonna win a game this year?

21:01 Justin: I think it's hard to lose out. and I Jake: Well, that's good. It's not great. Well, and eight is kind of like you do well. Let's see. Last week, I got seven as well. So I'm probably still ahead of you. You're ahead of me. 71 is 67. I can still pick up pace and beat you, which is all I care about this one. Justin: All right. Let's get into this. Jake: But we're down from Pasadena Forte, who's at 83. Oh, god. Yeah, he's crushing. Although he's never had a high week. That's so crazy. All right. She's been consistently good. Justin: Consistantly. Jake: Screw you. All right. Wait, there's a person Jets girl for life. There's actually a woman playing this. That's awesome I do why is that that's just we need more women listen to our podcast Stop saying duck butter and we'll have more pot. We'll have more women. All right, let's do this Justin: So we got the pick them which is us picking every game against the spread. Yep It's Thanksgiving people. We got three Thursdays, football all day. And they're not bad. No, they're good. I think it's good. The last one is for it is luck is probably not going to play at night. If he was playing, that would be a good game. Oh, Colts are terrible, though. Yeah, but it's it would be good because it'd be entertaining. There'd be a lot of scoring in that game. Yeah. All right. Let's do it. The early game is Detroit. So Detroit is hosting. Before we get into this, so Detroit and Dallas, they play, you know, the 1234 30 or whatever. Do you think they'll ever because now there's always the Thursday night, do you think they'll ever give them a night game or that's it? They're they're the two day games and that's that. I think they're just going to do the game. I can see Dallas like wanting the night game being like. Jake: It's like it's a national holiday. What's the night game? I mean the night game I think is less important than the day game the day games like when it's a time time now. Yeah, but Justin: Like the night games like you're done with everything now. You can actually go watch the game the games I know the day I feel like get cut up a little bit Cuz you in the middle of one of them you're eating probably both every in front of the TV True America. Yeah, right. Detroit. So Detroit and Dallas are both home. Detroit is hosting Minnesota. So this is a really good game for it's right at the top of the division. And they are. I mean, Green Bay is falling apart. This is a big game in the division and Detroit's home and their favorite by only two and a half. I think they're the better team. Jake: I'll take Detroit. I think I'm gonna put defense on the road. That Minnesota defense just took it to the...

24:01 Jake: They took it to home. Justin: Detroit's D could play too. And Minnesota doesn't have an offense. No offense to speak of. I'm gonna go Minnesota. Alright. Dallas is hosting Washington and they're favored by 7 and a half. And that half got me it went up from six and a half to seven and a half and I was gonna maybe picked Alice at That six and a half. I'm definitely not picking them at the seven and a half. They're good But Washington's good to Washington can't score they can play they're good So I'm gonna take Washington. I too will take Washington and then Pittsburgh Pittsburgh this line is currently at three, but I feel like it will move once luck is officially ruled out So Pittsburgh's in Indy and on the road favored by three. I'll take Pittsburgh because Scott Tolesine I think will be the starter. Yeah, Pittsburgh. No doubt. All right Moving to Sunday, one o'clock. Okay, by the way, just as a note, Jake: Jets game flexed out of the Sunday night. That's how bad we are. We're at 425 now. That's fine. I couldn't even play the spoiler. No, I think the 430 is my least favorite time. One o'clock's great. Monday nights, awesome. Thursday nights, great. Sunday nights, great. 4.30 is the toughest because I'm not a big fan of Thursday night You're both missing the night game and the day games and the day is like where it's at Sunday Justin: So I'm saying you're missing everything. There's less games because there's three on Thursday on Thursday So it's yeah, it's not that bad. All right, that's true. Atlanta is hosting Arizona Atlanta's favorite by four I like Atlanta. I think their defense is gonna be yeah, I know Atlanta's defense? Yeah, they get after the quarterback a little bit. Jake: All right, yeah, I'll go. I'm going Arizona. I'm gonna try to make Justin: a point. Okay. All right. Tennessee is at Chicago. Tennessee is. favored by three and a half, I think colors out for the year. Marcus Marriotta is a good quarterback. He's a good quarterback. You know, the. Giants are going to Cleveland. The Giants are favored by seven on the road. Like where it's like way too way way too close or way more close than it should be. Can't do it. Can't do it. I don't think Cleveland scores. It's seven points though. I don't think Cleveland scores. Why not? I still see the scoring. Jake: We'll see. I still see the scoring. Justin: Alright, so you got you got Giants laying seven on the road? Yeah. Okay. New Orleans is hosting the LA Rams and Jared Goff. I picked LA because it's 7. I don't really know if New Orleans should be favored by 7 over anybody and the Rams can play D. I mean they can so I'll take the Rams. I'm gonna take Nola at home. Okay.

27:02 Justin: Baltimore is hosting Cincinnati in a division match up that could knock Cincinnati just completely out of it. I think they might already. Jake: First play, first missed the playoff in what, seven, eight years? Seven years? Yeah. He should have been fired many times. Justin: You keep making the playoffs, you keep your job, but then you miss that and you're done. I'm going to take Cincinnati just because Baltimore and Cincinnati play really, I mean, they both. They play close games and I think four and a half is just outside the realm of where this game is going to finish. I think it's a field goal game, so I'll take Cincy. Good watch, I'll take Cincy. Uh, Houston is hosting San Diego. There is no line as of yet or the line is actually zero. It's not a pick. Uh, Houston sucks. I'm going to take San Diego. Off a by. Yeah, Houston. You've been traveling on a short week. And we had to travel, and we did say Brock the Cock. Jake: Limp. He's terrible. Limp. You need some Viagra. Let's go. Who you got? Justin: Oh, I'm gonna take San Diego. Okay. They're off by, all right, I don't know. Four o'clock. So Seattle's in Tampa, favored by five and a half. I got Seattle, I think their offense is back. Russell's back, takes Seattle. Oakland is hosting Carolina. Oakland's favored by four. I like Oakland. I love Oakland. Jake: Yeah, I just I think they're really good. I don't care. I just keep losing. They are, but I think it'll be close. Justin: They're losers. OK, let's skip that game and move to the night. So 830, we have this is what we got flexed out for. This is a good game. Seven and three versus seven and three. You got Denver hosting Kansas City. Great rivalry. Take the home team. Denver favored by three and a hook. I'll take the hook. I got Kansas City. I'm gonna take Denver. Okay. And Monday night football back in the States. Philly is hosting Green Bay. Philly favored by three and a half. Green Bay sucks. I'm taking Philly. I will take Philly at home. They suck. What happened? They suck. They suck. Jake: I don't know. Justin: They're so bad. Jake: It's crazy. You can't run the ball. You can't run the ball. You can't do anything. Justin: Alright, let's go to this week. So we have the Jets playing the Pats. We've got three AFC East games. Let's start with let's start with games. Jake: Now all the teams we pick everything lost last year. Justin: Two weeks ago, we were on three. Both. All right. We got to hurry up. Yeah, I got I got like no time here. So we got Jacksonville, my Jags at the bills.

30:02 Justin: The Jags are getting seven. Think it'd be close game jags could stick it in there. I'll pick the jags to cover The bills are very injured. The Sean McCoy may not play a lot of injuries to skill position players. They're running up like a triple option Jake: Don't believe in the Jack the desk on two game. Oh my jags my jags my jags games Justin: I got my jag yet. I got my jags 15, 12. Jake: Bill's win 23, 21. Justin: I got my jags. All right, then San Francisco is traveling to Miami. Miami's favored by seven and a half. San Francisco sucks. They're terrible. They might be actually worse than Cleveland. Like if they were to play, I think Cleveland might beat them. Maybe. I don't know. It's just sort of... They're really awful. Jake: That's so terrible even to think about. I hope they start winning so we can get a better draft pick. Yeah, they're bad though. Because right now it's Cleveland. Their defense is really shit. He is running against them. Justin: You just run over them. I mean, anyone can run for a reason. We're gonna play them. We're playing them in like four weeks. Can't wait to run for 150 yards against that team. That'd be a great game to have a frickin' petty start. Sure. Hand off. She's on the ball up their ass. That's right. Quick, easy throws, whatever. All right. I think Miami keeps rolling. What do we want want, four, five in a row now? Five in a row? Yes. Oh yeah, they have. I think that moves to six. All right, I got Miami winning 15.5. I have them. I don't know. Jake: 25, 15.5, 15.12, 15.5. I may be winning since this was terrible 25 3 Justin: Okay, all right and Thank you Alright you look at you first time ever. All right, so we got the we have the paths. Oh, yeah, I forgot I'm on the podcast we have You just wrote down He wrote down the Jets to lose. You never do that. I'm the one who does that. I'm never going to pick the Jets to lose. So we got the Pats coming to town. So disappointed. They have this quarterback. You ever heard of him? His name's Tom Brady. You heard of him? No, he's pretty decent. He's been around a while. They got this coach. Jake: Are they going to be a Gronk? Hope not. Doesn't matter. Doesn't really matter. Justin: They don't care. They don't care. They don't. They have Deon Lewis back. He played last week. against San Francisco. He didn't do much, but they got him back in the mix. Jake: Let's talk about how we could actually win this game. So we have fit starting. So you want us to just be silent for the next 30 seconds? There's no possibility of us winning this game except for the fact that... We sent we somehow end up winning like we can win again. Justin: Here's the thing. We played them last year, week 16. Yes.

33:02 Justin: And we needed to win. And we played probably as well as we could play. And they played bad. And we won. That was that was the halftime thing and the overtime. And we and they kicked it to us. Jake: and we scored a touch. Those are the games last year that we shouldn't have won. Yeah, Justin: we played as well as we could and they were like please win and it took us over time to beat them. So how on earth when we're nowhere close to as good as we were last year and they're probably just as good if not better, how on earth do we win this game? Jake: There's no no D. We just play seven on seven. No D. No, eleven on seven. So eleven offense, seven D. And just throw the ball up and down the field and we'll just see who can catch more balls. I don't think so. So. Or we go down to Masses Square Garden and we just give fits and... and Brady basketballs and they shoot free throws. Justin: They just shoot free throws. Radio probably beat them at that, too. Yep. Yeah, I don't know. I don't put in a realistic. I don't really see it. I got put in a realistic. Yeah, I didn't put a realistic one either. I don't I don't see it. The Pats are really good. Jake: The only way to beat them is to actually stop them. They can be stopped. The only way to beat them is you got to beat the shit out of Tom Brady. And we have the talent to do that. We haven't been able to do it this year. So if I'm going to say anything, there's the talent on our team to beat the shit out of him. Get to him quick, right up the middle, get him uncomfortable, make and make mistakes. He throws two interceptions a year. We need one of them. Um, that's it. Have a bad day. Maybe he has stomach flu. Maybe he has some street meat. I don't know. Justin: You just have to beat the shit out of him. If you watch any game that we've ever beaten them, it's because we've beaten him. Like we've hit him. Jake: I'm hoping this team stands up. They are fucking pissed off. They want to play hard. They hate this rival. They want the fucking... Kill and they just play out of their minds Fitz plays the best game. He's played all season He goes back to last year's form our defense steps up Rebus gets an interception Jets win 26 23 JT. Yes, just just just Justin: So I was losing 37 13. It's probably more realistic and I'll be happy to be if I'm wrong, but that's how I see it. 37, 37 is about right, 37, 13. I'm gonna go, a lot of people are gonna leave early. Get home for that Sunday night game. Jake: Oh no, because we made it. Oh, we won't. We won't, no, it won't start till 4.30. Here's my one prediction. Although I'm hoping that you know, it's it no, I want prediction is that we're gonna see something as terrible as the butt fumble We'll have something as embarrassing as that during the game. We can only hope Jalen Marshall fumbles four times for foreigners for four four four run backs with us down. All right

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