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Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they have a lamentation of their women.

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00:20 Jake: Welcome to Jet Kingdom podcast. Longest running in your chest podcast. Ever. I'm Jake joining me in the throws of yet another jet season. It's Justin. How you doing Justin? Took that loss pretty bad yesterday. Hah! Vomit! Uhh... So we... Sorry we missed last week. Umm... Yeah. Yeah. We uhh... It was Ravens last week, right? Cleveland. Was it Cleveland? It was Ravens the week before. Yep. Cleveland. We barely beat the frickin' Cleveland Browns. Ahh! We beat the Browns. Crush the Browns, fuck the Browns. So we don't need to talk about that game, do we? No, nothing exciting happened. No. Yeah, no. I mean, we won, but like... We got them in it. Actually, I think if they hadn't had... Let's just talk a little bit. They had that like four and a half minute drill at the end of the game. They were so bad at the time. Yeah, they're just terrible. They came down to like one throw like they were. They almost could have been in it. They had an extra minute and they had wasted it. They could have actually. So yeah, no. Yeah, I watched the replay and I was like, wow, you watched it wrong. No, I can't watch a replay wrong. Well, what do you think happened at the end of the game? At the end of the game, they came down, they threw a Hail Mary. No! Yeah. What game are you watching? Cleveland Game. They kicked an onside kick, we recovered game over. So there's no like, if they had one more throw, well they didn't have another throw. Right, but they didn't have any time left because they wasted all the time. Well they still had the onside kick and we still recovered it. No. Well, yeah, you know you're you're not right. You can't just like if they had like one more throw. Well, they didn't have any more throws. They had much more time in the clock. They only needed two touchdowns. No, they didn't even they needed a touchdown and field goal. Right. And they scored the touchdowns. We let them. We went soft. We're like, all right, you want to take your time, go down the field, have fun. Justin, I have to deal a lot, man. I know. Happens when I watch the jets Very limp Anyway, we didn't dominate them we should have fucking dominate there We were losing at half and it was like, all right now what now pull the quarterback Well Dallas is like a Super Bowl team. Yeah, they know they're what is called a good team. I think they're

03:02 Jake: Super Bowl team we are a below average team. They're a good team now Dallas Cowboys Yeah, they are tell you that much. Yeah, they got both sides of the of the ball covered very nicely Let's talk about the jazz versus dolphins. So what do we have to yeah, we have to because it's kind of like It's kind of the season in a hole. It was if we would have won the game We could have been four and five and the fins would have been Three and five we would have been ahead of the fins and the bills are playing tonight on Monday against Seattle and therefore And four they could have been four and five and we would have beaten them. We would have been ahead of them we would have been second in the AFC East and three game winning streak and Got the Rams then a bye and it would have been like wow. We have a chance to be 500 at the bye week and nope nope so we sat and watch this game together yes she probably shouldn't do anymore well no cuz the one we didn't want together we lost two yeah so that's not a thing but I was nice I actually took I actually tried not to go full on there yeah you're very negative and you know I don't like that but we're sitting there and it's He's not playing well, and he's throwing red zone interceptions, just lobbing the ball off his back foot, just throwing it to nobody. and all of a sudden it's like oh shit we're winning he throws a strike to your boy Jalen Marshall who I hate with a passion you can't hate him you can say you don't like his return game I really don't like his game his return game anything you fumbles Too much for my taste. Anyway, he throws a nice strike to him. Touchdown. Jets go up 23-20. And what do I sit there and say to you on the couch? What were the words that were coming out of my mouth? I suck cock? Nope. Oh, I don't know. Please just kick the ball through the end zone. I don't want to see a return. You did say that. Before the return happens. Then they get the penalty. And I said, oh shit, please, please, please kick the ball far enough. You probably won't be able to, but please just kick it through the end zone. Nope. Return touchdown game over. I do think I was sitting there as we were driving towards the, to, into the red zone. And I'm like, I can just see this guy throwing a pick right now. He's thrown five red zone picks this season. So brutal. He is brutal. He's hard to, he's really hard to root for. And yet he's the fucking starter of our team. He's tough to root for, man. He just throws these picks at the worst time. And this is the thing that just bugs me. Like, he's not some young prospect who you can just look at and go,

06:03 Jake: all right, well. Eli Manning had a bad year and Peyton Manning had a bad year and whatever. He's has been on the last of his whatever. He's not a good quarterback and yet our staff, our coaching staff, wants to keep rolling him out there on this like 0.0000000001% chance that we win out, go 10 and 6. and make the playoffs. No, it's over now. It's not over. It's definitely over now. Statistically not over. And that's the problem. This is the status of stupid. It's over. You see what happened yesterday in the West and it's over. It's definitely over. All the wildcard teams are coming out of the West. There's no doubt about it. It's statistically not over. If you want it, I'm again, I'm not there's no way this happened. I mean, I'll bet you I'll double down on my Jags bet That you already lost your Jags bet. It's lost. I they are statistically out. Damn it I'll double down on it though, and I'll tell you Oakland Kansas City and Denver are making the playoffs fine I which means we're not I understand that but the point is at this point 10 wins in the AFC could get you into playoffs. I'm not even sure about that Well, I mean sure mathematically, of course, no one no one's won ten games yet, right? no one's even played ten games, but I Don't even know if that's gonna be a thing because the West is so good and all the other all the other divisions are so terrible Yeah, I mean the South is awful. Just the worst part about this is, and again, I sound like a broken record. I'm sick of wasting seasons. Like this is a wasted season. Having paying that $12 million to come back to play. Worse than he's probably played in probably three, four years. Like he's at an all time low. I don't think he's at an all time low. I think he's just I think he's at basically him. I was just looking at season steps. That, that year he had in Tennessee, it was no good. That year he had in Houston was no good. And yet somehow, we think... He had a good year in Buffalo. One or two years maybe. I just don't, I don't understand when you, when you, when you... Pick a guy to be your backup. It's my gin. Yeah, I know, I have mine right here. When you pick a guy to beat your backup, let's see, what's the most interceptions you've thrown in a season? Probably one of those seasons with the Bills where he started all the games. Holy shit. 2011 through 23. There you go. He started all 16 games, next year 16. Let's see, I mean last year we do 15 interceptions, which is actually a lot. It's a lot. But if you do 31 touchdowns. Which is also a decent amount. It's a lot. But that's actually not a good ratio. It's not a ton. It's not a good ratio. It's not a good ratio. Well, two to one's not bad.

09:00 Jake: No, that's not a good ratio. That's, that's, you look at top 10 quarterbacks, they're not throwing that amount of. No, no, no. I mean Brady hasn't even thrown one yet. Okay. This season it's eight touchdowns, 13 interceptions, and they think that my mom is a bad ratio. That's a bad ratio. That's a Geno. That's Geno. I was doing math with you yesterday and I was saying, well, he throws that pick in the red zone. That's three points. And the other turnover that he has. Is down in Miami's red zone where they just kick a field goal. Well, that's three points. That's six points. That's the game. Yeah. You like lost the you can actually just say you lost the game because of his turnovers. Game over. So he got hurt during the game. He did, he did get hurt. And came Petty. And he went two for two. Two for two. You were ready for petty. I'm nice and safe little screen pass. I Those I said I had turned to you and I said I bet you a thousand dollars right now They run the ball and of course they didn't run the ball. Of course. You didn't take me over the bet Which is good thing for me It was interesting because you don't watch the post game stuff because you're too much of a I watch it afterwards. But I go and I watch it afterwards. I you know, I get a nice stiff cocktail and then I watch it and it's because they're Justice fans and they're like why is this and they also bring up some other points was You know, just to play calling in the end down in the red zone. They just get away from the run. Fine. You know, there's one thing. Um, what was the other thing? Oh, no, I forgot it. It was some really great point that I've now forgotten. Super. Yeah. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing. I will come back to me in a moment or two. Um, yeah, I went into this game feeling blase. Because I don't feel like they're I didn't think they were gonna win out and get to the playoffs or even like I didn't think they Really have a legitimate shot. I Kind of feel at the end and now I think many many fans are there is like I'm not I'm no longer interested in this season in terms of this season being a winning season. I'm interested in this season And I don't care about wins losses for the rest of the year. And in a what is on the plate in April and what is on the plate for September 2017. That's what I want to know. I don't care about anything else because I'm a Jets fan and I'm going to be around next year. I'm a season ticket holder. I'm going to go to all 10 freaking games next year. And I want t know what I want to know what what can I get excited about? Because I can't get excited about the playoffs. So show me something, put people on the field this year that I can go, oh, I'm excited to see that guy mature.

12:00 Jake: Oh, that guy's going to be good next year. Or, oh, here's a guy we need in the draft to help that guy be better. So to me, that's what I want to see for the rest of the fucking season. Today, talk about the offensive line. They do. No, did they talk about the offensive line on the postgame show? Or was your drink too stiff? No. To remember anything about the show. So mad. Talked a little bit about it. They don't... It was weird. You think that the offensive line and obviously there's a statute you can pick up. I think you think it's worse than it actually is. It can't be good. Mean they just bench. I think it's average. They benched clady. Yeah, I think that was no that was a bench You're benched You think you will be healthy enough to dress and play on like field goal block like block the field goals Block for the field goal kicker, but not healthy enough to just play There's great. He's constantly hurt, but he hasn't been hurt. It hasn't been hurt, so he's clearly just not good because Ben, Ijalana is our left tackle all of a sudden. Please stop with the this line is anything but below average. I think it's probably an average. I think if you are at the SACSA team below average. Okay, fine. They have one in my mind. Are you saying that? Are you trying to like excuse of why? Excuses. Okay. I'm saying there's there's Zuwe calling out here. I'm saying that there's blame to go around. Oh, yeah. and the offensive line. We brought up the Cowboys. There's a reason why they can operate the way they do. And it's because they have the best by far offensive line and league. They have a very good one. I don't think it's the best. It's the best. Name another one that's better. I think Miami's is not bad. Miami's is not bad. They can run. They can run, but. Man, is that Cowboys offensive line superb? I'm actually going to look up offensive line rankings, but pro football, something or other like ranks it some ranks it in some weird way that quantifies it. But I think ours is pretty bad. Um, I listen, I don't disagree with you. I don't think, well, I don't think ours is as bad as you think. I mean, hey, sometimes our running backs get lanes and they get 30 yard touchdowns. Sometimes we're running the ball on occasion. Not great, but I think that's part of the runner.

15:01 Jake: I think you put Ezekiel Elliott back there. I think we get a better running game. I don't, I think Forte's got, he's got. He's got experience, and he's like, I just don't see power and speed out of him. It's like the typical, I don't see, I see he's got, he can, he reminds me of, this is, he reminds me of Curtis Martin late, like late Curtis Martin, right? Curtis Martin was never a like, bowl people over, outrun them. But he had enough quickness to get away from people, and he was smart. And I feel like Kurzmarin towards the end, you know, he couldn't break away from people But he was smart enough to kind of move around them and he could read the line He could find the hole and he'd get the three point seven yards Feel like that's where Matt Forte is. He's not going to although he's had some big like he's had actual big runs but I feel like they were just I don't know bone or something. I just don't see him like zipping by guys. You can't tell me And I don't really need to run the red zone. We fucking throw it. I don't need to argue with you about an offensive line that's starting Ben. I julana at left tackle. So good. And Got a Brian Winters at right guard and a backup at center. I mean, there's backup everywhere. Are these injuries? Oh, Brian Winters, not an injury. He's a starter. He's not an injury. We don't think we think he was bench for performance. We think right. So why is he benchable? He's not good. The mistake. Why is the quarterback not benchable? Oh, you're asking the wrong dude. I'm just saying if every position is up for grabs and you can bench your two or three best linemen on defense in the whole first quarter. So you were sitting there and you were like wait I don't see these guys on the field actually funny enough I will call you out a little bit you like oh yeah there's Mo Like, wait, no, that isn't mode. And then like we had to keep looking because, you know, the line where you're seeing it, they weren't on the field, weren't in the field. And then I went on Twitter and all of a sudden you just started to see it. Like on Twitter, they're not on the field. They're not on the field. It came out today that they were late to a meeting. Um, that they missed a team meeting or they were late to a meeting. And I don't know how late it was like, Hey, Tom, Tom Coughlin late or like really late. But when they weren't playing, I did say, I think this is a first quarter thing. I think you watch, they'll be right in there in second quarter, and they were, and it had nothing to do with us winning and losing this game at all. I think, I feel like I've seen Parcells do that. I feel like I've seen Belichick do that. It's a very... And you know, it's not a public thing. It's not going to talk about it. In the press conference, which you didn't watch, he said it was a coach's decision.

18:01 Jake: It was coaches. And they asked him 17 different ways. Dude, it was a coach's decision. And so like for all the things that I'm kind of upset with Bowles about. I like that. I do think he's balls. I think he's got balls. And I think he's willing to say, dude, if you're not, you have you can't you're not overpaid. Sheldon Richardson is a He's a little bit of a like he's a case. He's a head case. He's a problem waiting to happen. He is Well, he's a guy who wants to go 140 miles down there down a highway. No, he's a problem waiting to happen for Don't you don't for him? I'm just a football like cap salary cap Keeping the team intact perspective. He's a problem waiting to happen. He was not going to be shopping him That's why we were shopping him. They they should They should either tender him and then let someone sign him and we get a first and a third or just let him go and we'll end up with a compensatory, probably a third round pick for him. So his contract's up. This is his last year? I think this is the fourth year so next year is the option. So he could do the option. Right. And then you could tender him then you tender him but not tender then you could well you can franchise them But you can also do the the the The thing where you I don't fully understand But you basically give them an offer but it's like a tendered offer so like Anyone else can match it, but if they do, they owe us their first and their third. Yeah, it's one of those things. Sometimes it actually is a first round pick. Right. He has played on most teams, including ours. He's a fucking monster. Right. He's a really great defensive player. I think you keep him for the two years. I think you you you. I would not. I would not. I would tag him to trade him on draft day. Just like they did. No, give him the fifth year. Franshied or fifth year him. I'd fifth year him. Then I'd tag him to trade him on draft day. Draft day. Pick up some picks. Grab a bunch of picks. You're not grabbing any first rounds. You might. He might be like a Dorell Reavis type of trade. I think my issue with him is. He's not old. Well, it's not his performance on the field. His performance on the field, I think, is very good. I think he's a head case. He had a penalty this time for doing stupid shit. And he's like, oh, well, you know, he always gets the... Like... And I'm not gonna get all Williams's ass. But you notice how Williams... I think it's just as dominating out there. But never in the spotlight for doing stupid shit. Like just does his job and does it well. Mo Wilkes like that. A 3-4 with Leonard Williams, Mo Wilkes, and Steven McClendon in the middle. I'm okay. You still have one of the best lines in the world. I'm good. You're good.

21:00 Jake: Right. It's when they force it. When they force those four guys on the field at the same time is when things... Get a little wonky. They didn't do it so much this game. They really didn't. They were they stuck to it. I think listen, you just signed the long. You signed the guy for the long term and you picked up Leonard Williams because he fell to you. Leonard Williams. I think he's the best of the bunch. I mean, he's not his experience. We were talking about this yesterday. He's not experienced his mo, but I think he's better than everybody on that field. Alright, so, and we got him for another three years. Or like diddly squat. So, keep him. Unless we pull up Patriots and trade him like Jamie Collins. Trade your, trade your players. Trade you to Cleveland. So, that didn't... Oh god, that guy must be like, just really on suicide watch. So for that, I have no problems and I don't think a quarter is... a problem, like I think a quarter is, that's not the game winning. Can we move on from this trash fire of a game? All right. Let's talk about fit. We did, didn't we? He sucks. He sucks. We want to see him bench. He got hurt. He got hurt. Sprained MCL. That's correct. Like a hero, he came back on the field. Let us to a drive. That's the thing. Such a hero. Just enough not to be benched. Although I think he's had a bench with this sprained MCL. You have the perfect reason to just bench him and then you go into the by and if petty like shows anything and you have the by week to get petty. like even more ready for ready for beyond the bye week I mean you do have to come out of the bye against the fucking pads well you have to go in against the Rams and the Rams are no easy PZ like they beat the shit out of Cam Newton yesterday I mean yeah but that's Cam Newton yeah but that's also like you're gonna get your ass kicked against the Rams their line is gonna hurt you they're good That is a good defensive line. That is like not who you want to be facing. Rams have a good defense. I don't think they have a good secondary though. Yeah, but they have a good. If you have no time to throw, you're just going to get crushed. I've been sitting shotgun the whole time anyway. It doesn't matter. Well, I mean, Fitz plays mostly. I mean, that's our offense. Mostly shotgun. Um... I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm just I'm pissed because it's just been two wasted seasons. I know you think last season was wasted. Last season was not a wasted season. Wasted. Wasted. You got nothing out of it. There's no there's no prize for 10 and 6 and no playoffs. And we know nothing about these two quarterbacks. Show me. Show me the quarterback. Show me the money. Alright, let's move on. Let's get the... Obviously Fitz depressed us. So let's move beyond that. Who impressed? Anybody in the game who you kind of looked at went had a good game Back in the Anderson kid Robbie Anderson had a nice game Caught a ball or two and a big one. Yeah, the nice catch down the field

24:04 Jake: You look good. I think my boy Jaylen had a couple nice catches too, buddy I don't know. I know you don't like him cuz you had the touchdown. That was good. No, yeah nice. He had another nice catch Yeah, yeah, nice catch. You know third and 15 is where like we're always at Forte played pretty well, you know, limited rushing attempts for some odd reason. Well, here's the thing. Are you where are you with with the offensive staff at this point? Are you kind of losing your luster? Yeah. Yeah. Seems like it's like it's like you lost all his creativity from last year. And it's kind of now just. I feel like it's and I think it's because he doesn't trust Forte because. Man, I saw so much rushing last year. Chris Ivory would you give that guy the fucking ball in the in the red zone? Yeah, you know what happened? I know the line. The line fell apart. Decker is no longer on the field. Decker is a big loss. That's like a one a receiver. That's really a big loss. But that's you can't every team in the there's a there's a team out there. Oh, they just lost last yesterday. But like they have they have people running backs. They're just like playing, you know, converted anybody. If they're losing, they're losing because of it. They have like the best quarterback, if not the top three quarterback in the planet. Jan or Marzull. Three catches. 59 yards. Had the most yards in the entire game. Alright. The other thing is, where's Quincy? Quincy's one catch. Yeah, because he's the number two now. So there's attention. Because there's attention. There's attention being paid. That's all I need. Anyway, when you can fly under the radar a little bit and be the number three and Decker can, you know, control some things, it's a little different. And the other guy who I kind of, I mean, Leonard Williams, I just love watching him. He's actually kind of fun to watch. And, and prior actually, like, I like watching him now. Like, I feel like he's. Oh, do you know I hate 51? Kill me. I'll get 51 fucking Kill me. It's fucking killing me this guy Third string middle linebackers. We have no idea what's wrong with Aaron Henderson clearly something very bad So we're down to our third string middle linebacker cuz Lee is still hurt And we got 51 out there and he's fucking terrible. He's got it awful. So wait, who are the guys? Jenkins and Lee, we drafted Jenkins, Lee Burris. Those are all defensive players that we drafted. We drafted hack. We're never going to see this year. Drafted a lineman. I don't think we drafted a lineman in the full-fift. We'll see half We drafted a punter in the seventh and shuram p.m. Week 17. You'll see hack maybe

27:05 Jake: That's the first time you see petty How would you see petty at that point the only we see petty at that point if they just win every game now No, just you'll just stick with it Just lose it. Just stick with it. I so badly. And I don't, and the thing is, I don't think Petty's like the savior of our planet. I don't think I'm gonna look back and be like, oh my god, that's the guy. He's the Brady in the waiting. I just want to see this kid play. I want to see, give him some games. Because as a Jets fan who wants to go to games and like, I mean, I love my tailgates, but you know, I could just tailgate and turn around and go home. But I want to like have something to look forward to. Thank you. I do too. I want to see the kids. I want to see the kids. I want them win like two more games. Top 10 pick. Just one more there. Yeah, I don't care if you lose on the road. Just win in front of me. If you won against if you won the Rams, actually three games, Rams, Patriots. That's it. That's all I know is at the end. Yeah, that'd be cool. Those three. But I don't even think they're going to be in a position to make the playoffs at that point. Well, we'll see. All right, so Fool the Game is. Fits, done, let's move forward. Is it fit for both of us? Done, move forward. Move on. Where's your confidence level, one to 10, 10 being the highest level confidence you have on the planet, one being the lowest level confidence you have on the planet for head coaching in Todd Bowles right now. Five. Wow. I'm right in the middle. Where were you last year at week 16? I was at like seven or eight. Yeah, all right. Things look good. Your coach looks good. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I think I'm with you. I think I'm at the five. I'm not at the like fireballs. I do like him as a head coach though. I just feel as though There are times where there's this transition point that goes faster and then there's times where it goes slower and these coordinators Sometimes they move right in and they're just they're like Ready to let go and I feel like he's done that he's like let go But maybe the guy behind him isn't that good? That's the point He's let go. He's like I'm a head coach I trust you. Yeah, you do the defense and Chan, you do the offense. Right. And sure, he's not an offensive guy. So, Chan, you're really kind of running the offense. But this guy on defense like. You know, there's. They're they're playing some guys that are young and backups and just not. Getting it like it's like some guys are playing zone and summer man and their point I mean the the analysts like pointing it out like Like 51 what the fuck are you doing? Like it's so easy you in 27 need to oh you in 27 get the fuck out All right. Well the pats had the week off sure. They needed it. Bill's will do tonight They play seattle this evening. That'd be good game. I kind of want to watch that

30:03 Jake: Uh, dolphins won against us. Yes, they did. We suck. So I lost my Jags bet. They're out. Uh, I looked at their statistics for making the winning division. And it is, it's like blanked out under 1%. I think statistically they cannot win the division. They've lost on Thursday night. 3% chance. So I owe you a bottle of something. We will discuss. Um, so yes, you've already lost that bet. It does make me. I got to get you whiskey of some sort. It's Japanese. You want Japanese? I think you should let me pick a good American bourbon. No, the whole bet was around Japanese. It wasn't those about it wasn't. Then we went to that whiskey bar and they had the Japanese bourbon flight. Yeah. And we're like, oh, but that was after the bet was made. That was really a bottle of bourbon. Okay fine do whatever you want So it can be Japanese, but I'd rather get you an American. Do I get to do my little I'm smarter than you dance I mean if you want sure, but you have to dance. That's a song That's not dancing. I'm we need to video it and we need to put it on Twitter Yeah, I just love that you thought this is a good team. That's my food. You know what's going to happen next year. They're going to be good. Could we double or nothing? And on next year. Yeah. Double nothing. Two bottles for next year, but I still want my bottle this year. No, but that's how it works. No, no, next year we can make another bet for two bottles and I'll take two bottles next year. You did bit the vision. Like that was just so, I know why your theories and whatever, but. I thought the division would just be the same as the wild card. They're so good. I mean their coaching is terrible Their team is terrible. They are terrible. They are Not that much they have so much talent on defense Yes, all their defense is so talented. So suggests those are offense Such a shame, such a waste. All right, let's get to the pick up. Let's merge with the Jags. We could have such a good team. I don't want borals on my fucking team. All right, we're merging. What are we doing here? We're going to pick them. I'm going to do the JKFL. I think I screwed the boot again last week. I think I'm going down. I think I'm going down. How would I do? Like glory. Actually, I got it checked. I got so at yesterday in another league, the league that I care about with you. Yeah, I was winning and winning and winning and winning and winning. And then get it back. And I got my butt kicked. And I got the I got the congratulation text in the middle of the fourth. The second game's jinxing you. And then he won. And I couldn't watch last night's game. I could not watch it because I just knew that I could be waiting for 40 points to just stand up. All right. So I need 15 points from Kristen Michael tonight. to win. I'm literally at the bottom. What do you think about that? Oh, 15 points from Christian Michael. From Christian Michael tonight. Probably need a touchdown. I'm 62 to 106 with yet to play one. Don't think that's gonna happen. Nope. And you are, where are you? You need 15

33:05 Jake: points? No, that's something we care about, which nobody on this. No one listening to podcasts. 740.99. You have two to play? Oh. What I got now, now you want to fucking talk about it. What do I got? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I got what I got. Who's playing? Robin Woods. Who else? I can't get in this goddamn game. You know what? Who cares? No one cares. Let's get three cares about the Jekyll. No one cares about the fantasy league. Let's go and pull it up. Just the people who are in it care. All right. All right. Let's pull it up anyway. All right. Fine. I was ready to move on. Are you ready to move on? I was ready. You're the one who's not ready. Are you ready for to 99 you're projected it 96 Oh 74 to 90 99 to 74. I'm terrible at this. You're so Robert Woods to go Yeah, that's not happening. I'm Graham. No, you're losing. I'm gonna lose. Oh, I win. He's no cuz he's got Doug Baldwin to go No No, you're not making up 25 points. Alright, let's do the picks. Thursday night. It's Monday, mind you. Yes. Should we re-pick tonight? No. Yeah, we didn't make a pick for last night. Let's look at it. Who'd we pick? I pick Seattle. Are we really gonna pick? We can't pick now. It's too friggin' early. We can. We have lines. Alright, I picked Seattle too. You still want to stick to Seattle? Yeah, I picked the score 2028 We have lines we have lines for next week. So we're picking them. Alright, let's pick them Thursday night. Oh This is the barn burner. I hate Thursday night football. I'm picking Cleveland Baltimore me too Baltimore is hosting Cleveland, but Baltimore is still a 10. I'm also picking Cleveland. They're gonna win I think this is the game they win Baltimore's not good. No pig men shouldn't have played yesterday. Nope Dummy. Thank you for not starting him in our other week. He scored more points than Philip Rivers. You're kidding me I'm not I looked this morning. He scored one more point. Oh, whatever it was right call It was equal and it was the right call, but he did score more points and that did out score that we were actually doing well So I'm happy because I were partners in that way cuz I did the draft and I'm happy we're like partners All right, keep going partner. Green Bay, Sam's running game at Tennessee. Tennessee getting two and a half at home. Give me the home points. Home points, I like home points. I think Green Bay is just looking so bad but they just can't run. They have no running game to speak of. And Dick Lab, oh, it's a. Genius, I cannot bet against Green Bay multiple weeks in a row losing, but they keep losing They keep losing that whole division Detroit's gonna win the fucking division. I'm gonna get a great best. I can't I find New Orleans is hosting Denver. New Orleans is favored by one I think Denver They're gonna get to eat back. I think Denver can stop New Orleans

36:01 Jake: So I'm gonna go with Denver even though last night they couldn't stop Oakland. Oakland scored 30 on them Yeah, I'm gonna go New Orleans at home. NOLA That's a little bit of heart too because I got too many players on that fucking game. Okay Billy you know this Mike goes up if you press it together with this I want to do that Suck my mic. All right, Philly is hosting it by one Atlanta's good Philly's not give me Atlanta. Oh you skipped over again. Good job first time for everything No, I think Good, they're not good. They're not good. They're coming back. They're not Atlanta's good. It lands real They're really good. All right. Tampa's home favored by one and a half over Chicago. Give me Tampa with the little mini buy because they played on Thursday. Yeah, right. Didn't they? No, they didn't. Did they not play at all? Maybe they had to buy. I don't know. Can't remember Washington. They had a Atlanta. They play on Thursday. Okay, there we go. Their home, their favorite over Minnesota Minnesota is falling apart, so they can't score. Washington favored by two and a half, I like Washington. Minnesota is just falling apart, they can't score. I feel like this is the bounce back week, so no. Defense is just getting too tired. Game in Minnesota, nope, bounce back week, Minnesota. Defense scores 14 All right Carolina you watched it yesterday didn't they like didn't Cardinals game. I think they did two pick sixes. What no Cardinals game not Cardinals. Sorry chargers There was a Chargers game. Yeah, it was two big sixes. Really? Yeah, all right Carolina is hosting Kansas City. Carolina is favored by three. I like Kansas City. Kansas City is good. Here's the problem with picking Monday. I don't know who's gonna be their quarterback. If it's Alex Smith I really like to pick. If it's gonna be Foles, I'm gonna change the pick. Although the line will move. I imagine. I'll take Carolina. Okay, they're not that good. They're not that good, but Barely whatever Alright, you've been At my Jags. I got the Jags your terrible Jags are home. Can you sit off a by? So there's so cock brag a cock the cock the cock meet the Jags The terrible, terrible Jags. Jags are going to win. They are good at doing garbage time, but still one point. Such good garbage time. All right. Only three, four o'clock games. One of them's in the AFC. So we'll be at that one. We'll be at the game. Doesn't matter. We'll be at what game? The game of century. Well, that's a one o'clock. Right, but we won't be home until like five, five 30s. Well, well, whatever.

39:01 Jake: We've had two. We'll skip one and then we'll go to Arizona hosting San Francisco. Arizona favored by 13 because San Francisco can't stop anybody. Can't stop a nosebleed. And I like Arizona. Just thinking my day with 13 John David Johnson next. We'll have him for like 180 yards. Arizona can't do 13. It's not even a big deal. San Francisco. Stop anybody. Kaepernick. And historically Kaepernick plays like shit against Arizona. Can't do it. Too many points. Okay. Pittsburgh hosting Dallas. That's got to be the game of the week on national television, right? Pittsburgh losing to the terrible Ravens Pittsburgh is favored by two and a half no give me Dallas why the fuck tell me why that why that home I mean that's actually respect for Dallas right Pittsburgh home not three two and a half That's a little respect for Dallas there Right cuz no, yeah, Pittsburgh's lost Two of the last three games. That's fine Dallas is five and two five and one not even one seven seven and one seven and one. Yeah, that's respect for Dallas Why? Well it is I mean they're playing a last place schedule It's not like they're like playing the best teams in the league and just ripping them up Okay, no give me Dallas no matter what and then yeah, I got Dallas too I'm not gonna argue with you, but I'm just defending the line. I don't think back-to-back night games is cool That's not cool. It's not, but this is a prime-time match. Oh, it's a great game. It's a super bowl rematch, and it's a great game. I'm an arse on freaking Sunday night, so here's a game to watch. It's a good one. I will be enjoying it. Hopefully yeah. We should probably now talk about it because like we don't talk about this game. You baited me into that. Yeah, baby. When went to the gipper? That's actually on you, I think more than me. No, I didn't say the name of it. Fuck off. All right. The Giants are hosting Cincinnati and this is off. I get tickets for this. Why is this off? We should go sit. We'll just stay there overnight. Why is this off? We'll go to metal as well. Watch the jet. Why? And then just stay there. Why? And then just stay there. No, not him. Another the other guy in the books. Our same seats. We could not leave the same. Oh, shit. Stay there the whole time. We were told that story on this podcast. That that the guy who lives in my building. There's a guy. We live in a building with over 500 apartments and there is a guy in this building who's a season ticket holder of the Giants. Of the Giants. The exact same seats. He owns the PSLs for the exact same section row seats. He has two, I have three, but yes, they're exactly the same.

42:00 Jake: That's crazy crazy. That'll be fun. I'll go. Um, I was saying we just stay there. But why is this line not available? What happened? Uh, I don't know. Since he was on a by and the Giants, I mean, Eli didn't get hurt, right? Like there was no big injuries there. Did Beckham get hurt? And those would be the only two people who would swing a line. Uhhhhhh... No idea. He's just too far out. I'm just picking the Giants, cause I don't think Cincy's any good. Alright, let's go to the FCs. Alright, so we've got... Miami! At San Diego! I like San Diego, they scored tons of points. They just score. I got Miami scoring... I'm doing this off the seat of my pants. 26 points, but I have San Diego scoring 35 points. So I got San Diego winning over Miami. in San Diego And you might you think the San Diego score 35 points why not they scored 43 yesterday? Yeah, but again, I think two of them will pick sixes. Why can't they do that? Yes, I see this closer I guess they don't really have a good defenses Maybe 30 to 31 San Diego, San Diego. OK. Super Bowl rematch from two years ago. Seattle at New England, New England favored by seven points. Justin: Seattle loses. Jake: Oh yeah. 27-17. This is not that Seattle team. Well remember, New England did win the Super Bowl, so this is a little bit of a revenge game for Seattle, but at the same time, they can't score. No, I can't score. You know what? Who can score? New England at home. 2717. I got it. I can't see them putting up the number you just threw up there. Why not? He's stopping them. Seattle does have a defense that can play. I just not going to pick against this team until someone can prove to me that they can beat them. Wait till we play them. I might pick 57. I- it might be 57 to 2. 50 to 7? to 2. Fumble. We're up to nothing. Cause- End the game! It was like last- it was yesterday when like, uh, when Penny went in. We hired- Can we hire Theo Epstein to run our team? Who Theo Epstein was that general manager? This just shows how stupid you are. Yeah, general manager of use the general manager of the Red Sox.

45:00 Jake: Circa 2004. He won three World Series with the Red Sox sport. There's nothing new with this part. And then he's now the general manager of the Cubs. So he's basically instant Hall of Famer. But the Browns are playing the money ball game. They have Paul DePetesta, who was Billy Beans assistant. Who's running the Browns right now based on all money ball. Yeah. All right. We'll see if they can do it. And then, oh, your pick is terrible. Let's talk about the New York Jets and hopefully ready for petty. against the Los Angeles ramifications Hopefully ready for Jared Goff That'd be so good. Well apparently Fisher is not blaming Not blaming whatever that fucktards name is for losing the game. So I think we got not no golf This is a winnable game. Either way, it's winnable, totally. Though so is Miami, everything's winnable. All these games from now on are winnable. No, no, no. First six. No, and the Miami and the two Patriots games are not winnable. Yeah, so you take like eight games and you say, these are not winnable, maybe win like one or two of them. And then you take all the rest of them and you say, these are all winnable, maybe you lose one or two of them. You've got a good schedule. Justin: Yay. Jake: Eight and eight. No. You just said eight. You're going to lose. You win two and then eight. Yeah. OK. All right. Well, that's not half math. All right. So this is fun because we got to see them in a hard knocks. So I kind of feel like I know this team a little bit. Sure. They got a guy who doesn't believe in dinosaurs but does believe in mermaids. They also have Dolph, who's a stupid fuck. He's really there are five starters first year starter quarterbacks this year I think playing five guys five rookie quarterbacks have laced them up so far Yeah, I don't know if they've started but they've at least played and he is not one of them He is not nor is Hackenberg. Yeah so once Lynch Dak who else? Maybe those two guys in Cleveland are probably both rookies, right? Kessler So what do you so what do you want to have happen this game? I want to see just win the game you want to see petty play Yeah, you want to see petty come in and win the game. I don't even start start the game win the game. Yeah We okay. It's gonna be hard I mean, that's why I picked the score that I picked because I think they play defense the Rams I also think that they have nothing going for them on offense. Who the Rams? Yeah, nothing. Like there's nothing to worry about. They can throw the ball down the field with one guy. Kenny Britt, Kenny Britt's like the perfect Dorell Rivas cover.

48:01 Jake: He's not fast. He's just big. We must recover. And Reavis has switched up his game. What does he do now? He just he gives him room. He just gives him room. Have to give the Skyrim, right? Because he's not going to run past you. And Tae-Bon Austin is, you know, fine. You catch 10 balls for 38 yards. Enjoy. Girl, we can't run because everyone knows that they can't pass. Right. So yeah, I like the idea of the Jets starting petty in this game, then going into the buy and then just continuing out of it. We do have some injuries. Marcus Williams out two weeks, so he'll be missing this game. I don't know if we're going to get lead back. I don't know if we're going to get mangled back. I don't know if we're going to get who else. Oh, that's weird. That's Lee you said I Don't even know anymore so many injuries I don't know if clady was injured or not. We had no clue. I don't know wasn't injured just performance. I listen They're a young team. They're kind of, well, if we play petty, they're kind of us. Although I think we have more, a little bit more talent because I think Brandon Marshall is a talented guy. I think their defense is really good. That was one of the things that I finally remembered it. The thing that came up on the pot, on the 7. 12. 14. post game show was that every time fits through at Brennan, the guy couldn't cover him. Maxwell? Yeah, by Maxwell. He would hold him every time. Holding interference, everything. Either that or a catch. And so why the fuck not every play? Go. Like you're gonna not stop him. Like... Well Marshall certainly wanted it that way. Of course he wanted that way. I've never seen the guy stop and talk I Never seen a guy stop and talk for At the post game or the press conference It was almost sad to see he couldn't talk like he just waited and he tried to think and he thought and he thought He thought he thought And then he answered a question and then like he asked him another question and he thought like he didn't want to say bad things about Fitz No, he loves him. He loves Fitz. He really loves Fitz. He really loves him. He has a thing But then I get it but sometimes your girlfriend beats the fuck out of you You gotta stop loving her like you gotta go on move on dude pack your bags. Go back to Gino's house Oh, wait, no, don't go to GSS. Go over to Petty. Petty and say, listen, buddy, I love you too. And mold him. Tell him to throw it five times in a row. And he will. He will. He will. He doesn't know how to not listen to him. And he also, he's got a big fucking arm. So maybe one of those five times can be like, you just go. And you're big, and that guy's small, and I'm going to throw it to you. And that's it. All right. So yeah, I think we win this game.

51:00 Jake: I think it'll actually be what do you got? I think it'll be. I think it'll be a normal scoring game, although normal. That's not normal. It's a little bit. I think we'll get like a weird safety or miss. Well, go. How does the Miss field score you points? No, miss extra point. Those are the points. Score your points. Oh, OK. I have this Jets winning. Yeah. The key to the castle. Yeah. Start fucking petty. He'll probably throw two picks. Yeah. But I think he'll throw. But I think he's going to be able to throw down the field. All right. I have the Jets winning as well, because that's what we do here. Oh, you don't always do that. I have a swimming nine-six Key to the game make the field goals Terrible all right, let's wrap it up. Let's get the fuck out of here. It's Jake and Justin Forever no matter how bad or how good or how terrible or how terrible mostly terrible We still love you because we got to do this cuz you know what? History shows us that no matter how bad a team is how long there all I have to do is live to be like 105 And eventually I will be able to ensure you get there. I'll get there Jake just saying let's go Jacks You You You You You

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