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Onan, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they'll hear the lamentation of their women.

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00:09 Justin: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Jake: Welcome to the... 81st episode of the Jet Kingdom podcast, as always on this side of the actual digital aisle. It's Jake, and joining me, who I know is very happy that there is actually a digital aisle between us, is my good friend Justin, co-host of the Jet Kingdom podcast, going into his 81st episode. How are you doing, Justin? Um, hmm, tough question today. Well, I'm glad that there's a digital aisle. I always loved a digital aisle. I thought we had to bring it back. because we haven't had one in a couple weeks. But you know, a little mixed emotions today. Today being Wednesday, we're recording this on Wednesday, a couple days removed from the Monday Night debacle. And you know, I'm actually feeling a little better about it. So thanks for asking. Thank you for asking. A couple of days always does make it better. Like it makes it easier. So it's a handle I like till Thursday Thursday's when I really get my groove back on But I can handle a Wednesday and since I was gonna be on the road We could have done this live from a long long way away, but we're doing it now. So here we go All right. So let's try to keep it close and simple into the chest Let's do a little bit of what do you think about the new stadium in general like feeling of it? And then let's talk about the actual game itself Well, I like the stadium. It's hard to say because we don't really move. We have our seats, your seats in the corner. I love the seats. You know, we're sort of... We don't move. The bathroom is right above the section. The beer is right above the section. and the game is on the field and we don't go in until about five minutes before the game starts. So I can't really talk about the whole stadium but I did enjoy watching the game there. It was not a whole lot different than the old stadium I guess. I mean it really didn't feel that much different once we're inside it just has different colors. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's... I think there's a feeling, although it didn't portray on the field, but it does feel like not the Giant Stadium. I'm not gonna say it feels like the Jet Stadium, but I'm gonna say it doesn't feel like the Giant Stadium. And there's lots of elements and lights and stuff that just makes you feel like, wow, here we are. And so, that I liked. But yeah, let's get to the goddamn game. Damn game. All right. So Monday night opener against the Ravens, we both predicted we would win this one and we were both wrong.

03:00 Jake: Jets lost 10-9. And what is? Really, just a really bad showing like all around. I'm going to have your opinion, then I'm going to have mine. Okay, yeah, I mean, I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed that it was that you can't score a touchdown. And, you know, again, we've talked about this, because we've sat there and talked about it as what was going on. But, you know, we were both of the opinion that what happened in the what happens in the preseason stays in the preseason, and that, you know, it doesn't mean anything. And there's, there's, I mean, I think we scored two touchdowns, maybe three and into higher preseason. And that kind of went on the field. Okay, you could say, and we won't know for weeks to come, maybe the Ravens are back to being the number one or number two defense, although that would knock us out of number one, and maybe they are that good. But there were certainly some, it just looked like a team that has the weapons, but just not, almost like not the game plan. So many miscues, so many penalties, it almost seemed like a preseason game. For me, There were huge highs like the picks and the runbacks and like you know you and I were jumping up and down and losing our minds by the end of the day when he when he comes down and I Looked at that clock and it was like a minute 20 seconds left and I just I In even many games watching Chad Pennington. I would go we have a shot You know when we was Brett farm, we have a shot Almost never was Marc Sanchez able to lead the last score of the last drive on a game last year He could do well if given a lead or if you know, Sean Green ran it for 50 60 yards in the playoffs and you know in touchdown But he never really led the game winning drive In fact when trying to lead the game winning drive or even the game just closing drive He would usually throw a pick so I'm happy for some of the stuff, like I'm happy the defense looks good, I'm happy that Sanchez didn't throw any picks, but it has become a bummer game and kind of like all the hype and all the talk and all the smack now is here comes the reality of life which is you're not as good as you guys thought you were. So that's my feeling. What do you think? I actually feel a little better about it than I think probably most fans do. I look at it this way. we We should have won the game We had and I know should have would have could a big deal really lost But they they did play a team that a lot of experts for whatever they're worth Are picking to go to the Super Bowl and perhaps win the Super Bowl one of the teams with the best Offenses and the best defenses in the league I held them to 10 points down 3 starters on defense. I'm counting Jenkins as one of those three. So you're out Jenkins, you're out Pace, and you're out Brownie Pool. So you're out a starter at each sort of wave of the defense, the line, the linebacker, and the DBs.

06:06 Jake: So holding that team to 10 points is something that not a whole lot of other teams the rest of the season I have the feeling are gonna be able to do and if not for a couple of really stupid plays You know a couple come to mind one. They have the ball in the Second quarter with about four minutes remaining on the clock up six nothing on Baltimore's 20 to 25 yard line about to punch it in for and go up two scores, we fumble give up a touchdown to go into the half down 7-6 only to kick the ball off. Which was bad. You can't lose the end of that at home. with a fumble and then with a bad pass interference call to get them down to the one yard line and allow them to score. So a lot of things like that, that fumble, a lot of pass interference, a lot of holding on defense that gave them third and 20 something holding somewhere not even close to the ball, five yard penalty first down. A lot of that stupid crap that I have a feeling will disappear. Um, and that's really, you know, the defense, the special teams played really well. The offense goes without saying they played really, really poorly. I'm not sure if that's because Baltimore is just that good on defense or if we're just that bad on offense. I have a feeling it's somewhere in between. and hopefully they'll get better at running their offense. Hopefully, you know, Sanchez will get a little bit more comfortable and we'll step up and and and they'll let him... I don't know if... I don't know if it's they'll let him make these throws that he's not making or if he just doesn't see them and he'll have to make them. I don't know one or the other. I don't know what it is. I honestly... yeah, I mean, who knows? Because... So, they blitzed him from all over the place, you know, he didn't have much time. He throws about what he's going to do every game and they're not going to have to throw more than that. But you got to complete more than 10 out of 21. So be it, yes. And I'm not gonna get on, you know, Big Deal, Keller, Mist, that, uh, you know, at the end of the game, there was no way we were scoring there, but what a stupid play. Like, I have a feeling he got, he had taken a huge hit from Ray Lewis, and then he was still feeling it. He was just knocked right out, and I have a feeling he was still feeling it. Well, let me have a question. I know you're gonna say no, but I'll ask you anyway, because... People want to know no Okay, so there you hear it Justin answers the question before was asked no

09:01 Jake: Do you feel that there's any validity to the feeling that as a jet fan? I'm getting the gut feel that all the hype all the hard knocks all the whatever Led to some of the distraction on the field on Monday night No. See I knew it. Yeah, I think all the, I think every team is, you know, I saw Bart Scott on PTI yesterday for the Five Good Minutes. He was doing the interview with Hornheiser and Woban and, you know, they asked him, you know, there was a lot of distractions. The TV show, you guys talked a lot and he had a really great response and I believe what he says, I don't really mind, I think we just got a glimpse into it. I think in the past I've watched Hard Knocks, all these teams talk Super Bowl, they all talk, you know, lofty goals, they all talk about going out there and winning on Sunday, so I don't think it was a big distraction at all. So alright, I'm gonna give you, give me, I'm gonna give you my full game. go on just for those of you actually i think this little we should do it we should do should give people what we're what we're doing what what what the hell are they doing so we how they do it which is the jet kingdom podcast based on jet kingdom dot com which is a website that basically supports the podcast but and you know so we play around some of the words of the kingdom and Crowns and thrones and whatever so this is our we have a if the if we win the game We have a night of the game We just and I each pick a player or players or things that we consider like the night of the game And if we lose we pick the fool of the game, so this is sort of our entrance into that But again, we both lost so we're gonna pick a fool of the game And You're gonna go first I'm gonna go first. Yeah, you're gonna first. Well, there's a lot of fools to pick this year this week I actually had a knight picked out which is too bad that we lost because I I noticed one or two players that played really well But I'm gonna go ahead and pick a fool and I have one on offense one on defense And since the offense was way worse than the defense. I'm gonna go ahead and pick Sean Green on offense Because he had that huge fumble, he fumbled twice. One didn't really matter because he fumbled it out of bounds, but he did fumble. And then he fumbled again with, like I said, four minutes left in the second quarter in the first half. And going down the field, up 6-0 with a chance to really.

12:04 Jake: See? go up 13-0 and we were not going to lose if we were up 13-0. So Sean Green, who actually got benched, and if Ryan says he didn't bench him, then he's wrong. No, no, no, he did. And the story out today is saying there's a rule on offense. You fumble the ball, you sit down. Yeah, well we saw that in the preseason. We saw that on hard knocks It was clear he benched him and then he screwed his head up because he came in for one play in the fourth quarter and Sanchez had to check down and swing it out to him and he had some open field in front of me He dropped the ball, right? So Whatever he's my fool So many fools to pick from Camarti 31 that was gonna be my defensive 30 points penalties Sorry yards and penalties Second forward throughout there All right. I'm gonna even why is limit me. Yeah. Well you because I'm me and you're pick a night No, no fucking knights. We lost the game. There were guys who should be recognized and played really well. Well, you should've talked about me. Particularly on the defense. I'm gonna mention them now, I don't care. Yeah, Brian Thomas played really well. No one can hear you. They can hear you. I can take it out in post. No dude, Brian Thomas played really well. Zioni Pua played really well. I got two fools and obviously Dorell Reavis didn't look like you missed any time. I'm gonna leave So two fools they split the time because it's both sort of unfair to give them fools But I'm giving the fools anyway, one is Chris Jenkins. I'm sorry, but as a team player You gotta play the season to be a team. And the thing is, I guess we're giving a guy a fool for getting hurt. Yes, because this is the guy who's got the biggest mouth on the team and yet can't finish a freaking season. No, sorry. Let me check that. Fucking season. He can't finish a season. I don't know how many plays he actually played in, I guess I can look it up, but like I was screaming up and down and lost my voice barely back now just saying you know seven plays dude and that's what we get That so that's why I said it wasn't a fair thing wasn't a fair fool But had to be mentioned and then the second one I'm sorry, but I'm giving it to a big boy on the sidelines When I learned that he didn't put Rivas on Bolden all day, what, why would you not do that? Why would you not put him on him all day long? Like that's what the game plan was all last year. And so like the guy gets 110 yards, ah, just kills me, kills me. So, you know, totally. Totally that those are the those are the sort of my fools But you know so many people to pick maybe he wasn't ready to like say Rebus you have to game plan and follow this guy

15:00 Jake: You know yeah, but what he's saying now is damn I should have so he's already admitted that he made the mistake next week We're gonna see him on moss all game like you all right, so okay. Let's move on shitty shitty game Shishidi Bang Bang that might be the name of this podcast So horrible, I mean I guess we talk about this injuries Chris Jenkins out for the year We bring in your guy my guy. I love him big fat guy Howard green cut by the Redskins, so To be honest, it's amazing. The guy is there because on a starting team played whatever 10 games and then was just sitting there cut by another team like it didn't start last year he did play a lot though in the rotation you ever started the game now pull out pull out would start at no tackle um i'm wondering who is gonna start on the defensive line because pull out was playing defensive end And he was playing really well at defensive end. I wonder if they'll start green and keep Puah in there or if they'll start at nose tackle and have Vernon Gholston start. And- That looks so- And then when Calvin Pace comes back, if Jason Taylor will move to a defensive end position, I wonder what they'll do. Let's talk a little bit about some of the key players here. I actually thought, you know, that I thought Jason Taylor didn't do a bad job. Like he was coming, he had one penalty, whatever. But I kind of felt it's weird to say I felt this presence on the field. I guess it is whatever. I really feel his presence. I had a one or two good plays. I thought there were other guys on defense. I thought I thought Gholston would, you know, kind of showed up. I saw some plays, you know, especially on special teams. He did some stuff. But what other moves would you like to discuss before we get on to other kingdoms? Well, there are a lot of injuries around the league. You know, a similar guy to Chris Jenkins are just as frustrating as Bob Sanders on the Colts. He's out now for the whole year again for like the fifth time in seven years. He's not playing. He is now, he has now missed more games than he's played. He's played 48 games, he's missed 49 games. This guy gets paid like Jenkins. I mean, this guy is a top notch like defensive Player of the Year type of guy and he's out. Other big injuries around the league. Ryan Grant out for the year. They're running back on Green Bay. He's going to miss and we play Green Bay later on in the season. So that's good. Good for us. I don't really like to say injuries. What about Lawrence Maroney going off the Denver being traded for undisclosed pick? I think it was a fourth and a sixth is what they're saying. Justin: A fourth and a sixth from Lawrence Moore. They picked up Moss for a fourth. Jake: I know, and Moss was a malcontent. Justin: The guy, it clearly hurt. Jake: No, he's not hurt. He just doesn't play good. You know, and Belichick doesn't like him, but apparently, uh, Josh McDaniel was the...

18:00 Jake: the coordinator with Belichick for a little while on offense saw something and really liked him and No-Shall Moreno is clearly not super healthy. So, you know, they don't have a running game in Denver. So maybe they thought Maroney would bring something to the table for them, but he wasn't really going to play for New England anyway. True, true. Alright, so let's move beyond. Let's talk about, so again, if you're new to the podcast, which you might be, because we've been around for four years, this is our fourth year, you might be actually picking up on this, picking up what we're laying down here. So we do a couple segments, we do what we like to call the, you know, game recap, we then talk about the Fools or Knights. We then do something called Other Kingdoms. We talk about other games or things we think are just newsworthy. Then, new to this year, we're actually doing two things. We've always done things called Throne Picks, which is play on the word, throne picks, where we pick the AFC East with points. We're going to pick every game and we're going to quickly go through that. Then we're going to name the Jet Kingdom Pick'em and we're going to name the winner of the week and who's doing the best and who won between Justin and I. That's actually available on Yahoo! Look at our tweets, look online, you'll find it. Although you will have missed a week. You're no good for you, but we have some people in there and somebody won and guess what what it wasn't you wasn't you either Oh man, so actually the rank number one this week was douchebag fast factor I love it. Love it a guy named do tie with Mike underscore card. I wonder if that's Wonder who that is. I don't know any of these people Besides you I know a couple okay, so no I know about four people But anyway, okay Matt in there Matt from the boards. Yep Congratulations, douchebag factor for picking eight and my card for picking eight total points again We're picking with the spread so can't get a little different in fact No one could have won this week straight out because the first game was a push first game was a push So and pain train and Bobby James Both went 0 and 13. I'm thinking that they probably didn't make picks. Yeah, and I wonder if pain train someone we know probably not Okay, so anyway, let's talk about our picks for this week where again, we're gonna go through all the picks that are not jets dolphins Pills and Patriots and then we'll talk about those games specifically All right. So it's week two now and we have I'm just gonna go on the list and I'm gonna leave out our games Atlanta versus Arizona right now at the six and a half points Brad We're going to go through all of these, eh? Just quickly, just quickly. Alright, I have Atlanta. I have Atlanta. Baltimore, Scentsy. Two points read. Alright, let me read these, because I'm more of a gambler.

21:12 Jake: I know how to read these. Is that fair? No, but go ahead anyway. Alright, Cleveland at home is giving one and a half to Kansas City. I have Kansas City. Agreed. Dallas at home is giving eight and a half to Chicago. I think that's a little high. I'm going to take Chicago. I'm going to say Dallas at home. I don't think Chicago's got it. Okay, Philly at Detroit. Philly giving four and a half. I have Detroit. Right? I think Detroit's looking better than advertising and Philly's looking worse. Philly's looking bad. And they lost their... Colb and they lost their big full back. They're in trouble. Yeah, they're in trouble. Green Bay's at home, big spread. They are playing the Bills. We're going to skip that one. We're going to pick it in our... Good job reading it. So good job taking it over. Shut your mouth. I'll just give a spread is 13 But we'll talk about that in a minute when we get to our AFC East throne picks Tennessee's home to Pittsburgh giving five. I love the way Tennessee looked last week I picked them in my survivor pool and was victorious. I'm gonna pick them again I'm going to go Pittsburgh this week. I think that there's Dixon, you believe. I think they've got enough weapons that they can survive games and five. So I'll go with the five. Give me five and I'll take it. OK a. We'll skip the next one on the list since it's the Dolphins game. Carolina's home. I wanted to let people know, uh, Carolina's home to Tampa Bay. This is off, there's no line, I have the feeling it's because Matt Moore, the quarterback for Carolina, uh, was a little bagged up. I'm gonna pick Tampa Bay anyway, I watched that Carolina game against the Giants, and they are terrible. Yeah, but they were able to score on the Giants, um... They were awful. That was with Matt Moore. So yeah, I agree. I'll I'll I'll probably pick Tampa Bay and Tampa wins. There'll be two and oh, and that's it. AKA, I just switched my pick. Denver's at home versus the very surprising Seattle Seahawks. The line is three and a half. Denver giving three and a half to Seattle. I'm going to pick Seattle. I don't think Seattle's for real. I think that was a fluke. I'm gonna pick Denver. Ok, Oakland at home, they look terrible hosting St. Louis who didn't really look bad. I think Oakland's one of those odd teams that plays good and not good and good and not good. I'm gonna pick Oakland. I'll go with Oakland too. At home, give him the point. I don't think Rams could be in the bottom of the league once again. You believe that they had Bradford throw like 50 something passes in his first ever game? Good job. That's and he almost got hurt and might be way to get him killed. Yeah, we'll skip the the check game All right, San Diego home to Jacksonville The line is seven and a half

24:00 Jake: Jacksonville's getting seven and a half. So I'm gonna pick Jacksonville. Yeah, I think San Diego rebound NB and win the game. I think at home. They play much better at home More than more than a touchdown. Yeah, I think they will A lot of people did. They looked terrible too. They did look terrible, but again did Washington make them look terrible or whatever I still like Washington at home with three points. Give me three Houston. I think they were there an iffy team I still don't believe in them I think they'll win they'll lose games that they should win and they'll win games They should lose like last week versus this week. I still give me three points I want to take Washington and on Sunday night The Manning brothers, they get together for the second time. In Indy, Indy's given five and a half to the Giants. I'm picking Indy. They are boiling mad and Payton will not lose three games in a row. Yeah, not going to lose two games in a row. And again Eli Manning throwing three picks last week even if he cuts that in half and doesn't pick in the half, they're going to lose that game and lose it a lot. Don't think in indie they play it. There's a different team. They're a dome team. They play at a dome level. I think they have the dome open because it might be nice. Yeah, right. Because the the four inches of sky that you can see been to that stadium. Don't open, don't close. Doesn't matter. I'll pick Andy with give me five. I'll pick any to cover the five. And don't take the Monday night. uh... we have really a good monday night i hate to say it i mean it looked good before the before it's an instance go get the bus kick by seattle and they're supposed to be pretty decent but new orleans is going to san francisco and giving five points and i have to take a master as bad as a missus to look last week and New Orleans look pretty good. So I'm gonna take New Orleans. Yeah, totally take New Orleans go with it It's my lead pipe. No, I'm not gonna steal some else. All right, so good ones now Let's go to the games that we have yeah, the ASE East this would be our throne picks And let's start off with Let's not start off with our game because that well, how did how did we do last week? Oh, yeah, how'd we do? Alright, I had Baltimore at New York Giants. New York Giants, Jets. Wow, I wish. What's wrong with you? Do you have a couple beers? I've actually had a about a tonic. 17-21 lost that. That's bad. Miami at Buffalo had them winning 30-17. I would say I got the win right, but the points were way off. Sincey at New England, I had New England winning. I don't know why you have it as me You wrote it down as me picking Cincy. I didn't write that.

27:00 Jake: You wrote it. OK, well then I didn't pick it that way. I picked it the other way. So yeah, I'm two for one. Two for one, and I was one and two. Well, you would you pick? You pick Cincy. I had the Jets. I had Miami, and I picked Cincy. OK. And now we got this matchup. So we got, first of all, we got Miami at Minnesota. All right. it. I'll go first. I think this is a low scoring game and in Minnesota I'll let them edge them out by one point Minnesota wins 14-13 Not gonna be close scoring at all Minnesota is coming off along They're gonna need to take out some paint on somebody. They're a better team than when they played last week I think that they I don't think Miami's gonna be a good road team in that place I just don't see it happen. I see it's I see it's actually it's a total one-sided affair 1331 Minnesota wins Alright, the next game is Buffalo in Green Bay and this is the blowout special Uh, this one is the game with the biggest margin of victory, I think. And the whole week, Green Bay wins 38-10. Those 10, 7 of them might be from special teams. Yeah, I don't... I don't know, Buffalo... Played poorly, but they hung in there like they were still trying They're playing bay at home is gonna play much better and can be is gonna win, but I'll call it 70 17 28 I mean it could be it could be 28 10 for the entire, you know for a long period and then something could happen They could get that last seven So I'll pick green bay to win But it won't be I don't think it'll be a complete blowout when you look at the score at the end It won't be a blowout. The game might be a blowout Yeah, whatever And then our our game of the week game of the century game of the millennium Yeah It is your own my own New York Jets hosting Tom Brady and the New England Patriots and Do I do some analysis? Yeah, no, let's talk about it mean that this is this is a tough one watching us from last week to this week I'm like Yes If if this if not if not for hundreds of yards of penalties if not for a fondry Sean Green fumble if not for miscues different game, but this still leads me to believe that this team, our team for now, ain't gonna be pushing past 20 points. Like, I dare the Jets to push past 20 points. Only way to win this game, keep it low, get a good field position and, you know, kick, have Nick folk just kicking them through, maybe get one touchdown on some lucky play, special teams play, lock them down at the two, that type of thing. Um, you know, there's a lot of talk about the Patriots being as good as they were in

30:02 Jake: their 16 and oh season. Give me a break after one week. I know. But you know, the, the, the perennial talk of new England was taken over by the perennial talk or the talk of the job of the jets. I don't know. I mean, I, I don't, I can't say I have a lot of faith in this game. I'm a jets fan. I'm going to pick the jets, but if we're going to win this, it's going to be close. It's going to be one of those. We either have to do some amazing stuff at the end or it's going to be, I think it's a 1917 game. Jets win, but like by two. In fact, that's the spread, well the reverse spread. So yeah, I think we win, but I think we win by two points. I don't think we really score more than... No, a touchdown or two. I just like one's probably a special team such down. Well as always before we At the beginning of the season during our picks episode last week I had the Jets losing this game and as always during the week. I have the Jets winning game Every year and I think it's totally legitimate to say it is legit to switch after it because from week to week There's an ebb and flow of the season Right and we lost last week so you can flip on them right. And they beat a team that was in the playoffs last year pretty handily. And that destroyed this team in the playoffs. What do you mean they destroyed this team? The Baltimore Ravens destroyed New England last year in the playoffs. Yep, yep, yep. Um. you With all that said, I think the key to victory here is knocking Tom Brady on his ass in the first quarter a couple times. Because that's how you rattle him, you get him shaky. Like a car accident. Yeah, throw the house at him in the first quarter. And I wonder if... they the Jets will try something different and put you know Reavis for the last three years has taken Randy Moss one-on-one every single game that they've played against each other I wonder if this year they'll put him on Wes Welker because Welker is the guy that beats the Jets not Randy Moss and maybe that's because Rebus is covering Randy Moss, but Welker is a dangerous little motherfucker in the slot. I know that that's not really where Rebus plays. He plays outside, but it sort of makes me nervous to think about Kyle Wilson having to cover Welker. Because that's the key to their offense, is still Wes Welker getting open. They don't really run the ball very well. with Randy Moss out there with Revus, he's not doing much. So I think blitzing and keeping Welker under control is the key to the game. We like to call those the keys to the castle. Keys to the castle? Yep. I think you just made that up. Nope, I didn't actually have been writing it for years on the online. Oh wow, okay. Alright, well, it's sure as I don't read your shit.

33:00 Jake: uh... uh... i think uh... the jets are gonna take it seventeen thirteen again and like you said no way they're scoring over twenty which put the parameters on me to have them win under twenty you went right to nineteen i'm gonna go to seventeen to touch down to the field goal one of the touch down might be on defense uh... we'll see uh... i i i do think however that they do need to be winning the whole way through. So if they're losing 10-nothing or 13-7, they . Might have a hard time winning the game. Yeah, I have a bad... I just have a just stinky feeling about this game because it's just like there's so many missing things on the Monday night and you're playing six days later and can... how many of those things can you fix? Well, I think that that might actually help. to be honest. Oh, I think it sounds weird. It'll rally the troops. But again, I think there's a level of hyper focus that 13 or 14 penalties or whatever. If it was that stuff, nonetheless, they didn't get any help even being at home like The refs had no problem throwing flags and giving Baltimore like chunks of yards on on Oh, yeah, interference. Well, and that's the one thing I want to see happen. And I will give that's why I think Rex Ryan gets the fool because You know, it's going back and rounding it up. But I guess the fool because first of all, not putting Reavis on Bolden all day long. Second of all, When you see this is a this is a game of you know of Adapting when you see the refs are just calling shit left and right use that to your advantage and start Pressing them so what what again and I'm I'm a fan I'm not a coach and I have no Qualification and just throw it out the window and get mad literally no no qualification zero Except for I have a podcast which under qualified which hundreds of people listen to so I get to say it And some people get to listen the point is that when people when you see that on the field That's when it's time to test it on your side. So have Sanchez throw a couple bombs one-on-one See what happens because that same bad call against us for passing interference might happen on the other side And so that same guy calling that might call it for you and you might pick up the 40 yard play or the you know on the on the goal line because they did it in the end zone like I truly believe that there's a If the refs are playing a certain way, they generally stay that way. They don't stop what they're calling. I do believe in football karma, but I just think there's a time to test that and they didn't do it. And that kind of pisses me off. All right. All things that don't piss me off are following us on Twitter. If all I listen Twitter does not piss me off at all. Oh by the way just again a big congrats to douchebag factor and Mike

36:01 Jake: Go up his name right now quickly to quickly Mike card great job. We'll see if you can do it again because I'm coming back Justin beat me Justin got seven I got five. Yeah, I'm totally back. I'm totally back in there. There's some players down there that below me That's good. I tied with my significant other That's awesome. That means I'm really sucking. She'll never listen to this. Just to go to sleep. Go ahead and follow us on Twitter. Twitter.com slash JetKingdom which is me, Jake, and Twitter.com slash just JetKingdom which is Justin. A great place to find out with our podcast, what we're posting, and blah blah blah, is on the website of course, www.jetkingdom.com, but also on Facebook. We're already where you spend 90% of your day at work anyway. Go to facebook.com slash Jet Kingdom. And the last thing of course If you really love the podcast, the best way to make sure that you don't miss a beat, because again, we might record on a Monday, maybe on a Tuesday, maybe on a Wednesday, maybe on a Friday, you never know. The best way to make sure that you get the latest podcast as it comes out downloaded to your computer in time is to go through iTunes. And then you can subscribe and literally as we put it out, doesn't matter if we put out two, we might go to two next week. We might get crazy to two. I don't know. Just saying. You're going to miss it unless you're following us on one of these places. Go to iTunes, type in Jet Kingdom Podcasts, search, find us, subscribe to us. Why you're there? Why not leave a nice review? I don't know. Say it's the greatest podcast you've ever seen in your life and leave a five star review. We could handle it. I'm just saying. No problem. But, until then... So sign off to my co-host here. Bye Justin. Sam. And good luck because I'm gonna kick your ass. Oh, who'd you pick in suicide this week? I haven't picked yet. Okay, excellent. I'm still in it. I'm waiting for some of the injuries to shake out. I'm still in it. I'm still in it to win it. I'm still in it too. Tennessee, maybe, last week. Could you pick last week? Excellent. Not bad. I think I picked Chicago. And they literally gave me a heart attack. That was the worst call I've seen. all week that that call that really bummed me out because there were a lot of people in my suicide pool that picked Chicago and I wanted them out San Diego people I think it went out last week and anyway until next week and as always 81 times Jets. you