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00:07 Justin: implementation of their women. The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Can't wait! Jake: Welcome to the JAKIMA Podcast! the longest running New Year's Jazz Podcast ever. I'm starting the podcast. Oh, you're such a cock sucker. Because you're snorfing. You're puking your mouth. Justin: There's a big bottle of water on the floor over there. Don't step over there. Jake: We'll edit this out in post. Don't worry about it. It won't sound like you're just doing it. Yeah, I'm Jake and joining me for the 224th time in a row. Oh, man. Are we gonna celebrate 225? Yes with a victory and the victory. All right, so we're back and We got a big agenda today We have to talk about the just versus Raiders because we were bad bad podcasters and broadcasters. We're busy We could have done it. We could have done it Monday. We can't done it. That was dumb. Why didn't we do? I don't know We didn't That was stupid. You were too busy laughing. Justin: Let's just put Monday on the schedule right now. Jake: Let's put it on schedule. As you know, we like to do a Monday podcast, if we win, we didn't win. Oh wait, we did win. We did win. We should have done a podcast. So we're going to talk about the Jets versus Raiders, to pick our play of the game, night of the game. We have some news, like there's any news going on in the NFL right now. And then we'll talk about the JK fantasy league who won who lost who impressed who depressed Well, that's kind of nice and fools. No in the JK fantasy. Oh in the JK fantasy Yes, I depressed you're very I know we'll do our JK pick and we'll pick every every game in the week one Nope. Sorry week two. Thank you Cuz we'll go over who did terrible on week one then we'll make our throne picks which are they for the AFC I'm gonna start I'm gonna rename this I'm gonna call it the AFC East Throne Picks. So everybody knows what that's what that's what that is. So AFC Throne Picks, look at that. I just renamed something on our podcast. It's only 224 episodes in, no worries. And then we will do our Keys to the Castle for the Jets versus Green Bay matchup. And then we'll get the fuck out of here because it's Friday. Are we gonna talk about that thing with the question marks? Yes, we are gonna talk about that. Okay. Why not? Get rid of the question marks. I just did. All right, so let's start with the games he didn't go to. That you watched on tape. Because you're a terrible, terrible individual. But I had no clue what happened. It was a Christmas miracle. That you went to a sporting event that wasn't the Jets. And then you were able to go home and watch the sporting event without knowing the outcome. Justin: without knowing a thing. Jake: Nothing. Not a thing. Even though I was texting the whole time. Justin: Jets win. My phone was was was off. It wasn't even on airplane mode. It was off. Jake: So you went to see Jeter's last something.

03:00 Jake: I went to the Jeter's retirement ceremony and left it in the fourth inning. Justin: Yeah, I did. I was like, it's time to go. Jake: That's so terrible. Justin: Anyway, it was a great boring, boring game. You missed it. I had to. Jake: I was like, I'm leaving. It's football time. And then we played the radars. They had Derek rebirth, not David. He came out like a house on fire. You know what? It looked like it until you look at what he actually did. And then he has all short passes. 102 yards up to the last five minutes of the game. Justin: Yeah, well, that's because he started off. or something and then nothing and then the tides got turned. So let's talk about the game. Jake: game it wasn't Justin: It was like, who's the Raiders out there? What's going on here? Jake: And as a superf where he hit the helmet, but he hit the helmet, he hit the helmet. Yep. So I know there's no ones I thought, I mean, obviously the little holds and the off lines, off sides is not really going to. You know, what can you disagree with? The guy moves, he doesn't move, jumps off, jumps off sides, he doesn't. But yeah, our offensive line, man, they can't get out there. Willy Colón needs to get his act together. Yes. This is starting to annoy me with him. I mean, we went back to that last year. Many two, many two yards. If we'd lost this game, we'd be giving him the fucking fool. But luckily, we played the Half-Life Raiders, who had to come all the way across from the West Coast, play a one-a-cock game. They came in on Thursday this year. Yeah, they tried something different. Good for them. But, you know, if we'd lost this, I'd feel really bad about our season. Like, here's basically a crap team with no anybody on it, starting a rookie quarterback. And if we couldn't have, you know, kept him from doing anything, But uh, let's talk about like what do you thought? What are your thoughts on the game that you watched on TV on TV? You have super fan Why are you giving me shit because you didn't watch the game I did I I watched the entire game On super fast super fast. Tevo. Do you put on double time? Okay watched everything You came down it like Justin: Told you I left a baseball game at the top of fourth inning. Yeah, I got home at 3 3 o'clock Jake: I think so. What did your TiVo tell you about this game? Always give me a stare that you should see you so laughing his ass. I'm so pissed at me. I'm done. You're being a dick Justin: I am being a dick. Let's go. It's kind of a thing. No one really cares about your game analysis So go ahead give give your without me leading the way go ahead. No one cares about my game analysis Jake: No, everyone knows you're just a stupid fan

06:02 Jake: I'm just a super fan. Just a stupid fan. Here's something we can know we know we're gonna be able to run the ball I'm not even listening. We are running Sounds like you're responding to me basically just Chris every year noise noise noise noise noise Averaging noise noise. That's all I hear now. I hear you now. You're making oh no Okay, yes, cuz you were not No, I was making fun of you because I didn't go to the game. Justin: What's the point of that? Jake: Because it's fun. Justin: No, it's stupid. You're just being stupid. You're upset about it? You're just being a dick. You want a hug? No, I don't want a hug from you. You want a black salami? Jake: Yeah. Of course you do. Right. Come on. Talk about the fucking game. Stop being a wonderful person that you are. Justin: Go. You go first. Jake: I was talking, but then you talk over me. Oh, oh, OK. You're gonna stop. Why don't you talk about how much you love the in-stadium... Oh my god. The launch pad. Yeah. So wait, you want me me to stop talking over you? No. Seriously, you're making for the worst podcast ever. Even the truest of fans is now I'm going to click. Well, thanks for downloading. Thank you for downloading. All right. Talk about the game. We'd love to hear. I thought you were going first. I want you to talk about it. But you were there and you watched it live. I love you. So talk about it. I love you. Why don't you talk about it? I love you. Why don't you give us your genuine, honest opinion about how the game went?.,, R Chris Ivory had that huge one long, so his, his stuff, like 102 yards and averaging 10.2. Yes, he'll do that every week, obviously with one huge breakaway play. I thought Gino played well, but not smart. The interception, I don't think really, I would not throw that on him. I thought the, you know, running and sort of. getting the ball knocked out of the two is stupid, and going way, way back, and not understanding you're in a place where you can get a field goal and take the game, sort of put the game out of its misery. Like, he's not still playing brilliant. I'd say it's better. He's making his reads. He had a great percentage, passing percentage. Right, what was it? That's it. uh,, Otterdamk give it presented to my thing, but 82% is pretty good. That's the thing, he wasn't asked to, to do a lot. Um, and I also think that Mike Vick, putting the Mike Vick on for the one play is absolutely stupid. It just, it just, it just doesn't show you how much you pay attention. Justin: Yeah. Well, Mike Vick was out there for three plays. So that just shows how much you pay attention, Mr. I want to fly. Because I was at the game. Yeah, so even better, you should notice. And when I get home and I'm like, Oh, that Greg Salas dropped that touchdown pass. You're like, Eric Decker dropped that touchdown pass. You don't even know what the fuck you're watching. No, I don't. I don't. It's like, dude, what are you even talking about? You're like, Eric Decker on that first drive, you dropped that touchdown pass. I thought it was Decker. Yeah.

09:00 Justin: You're good. I know. Well done. I don't wasn't in my end zone. It was on the other side. Jake: Okay. Yeah, can't tell the difference. Nope. Okay. I didn't have T-voted. Pause it. I didn't have me to tell you what was going on. I didn't. Justin: , Jake: you. You can do this. You can do this. play run a normal play yeah well the normal play I understand misdirection deception play okay so that's the difference you can do with you know on the field 100 not as effectively well that wasn't a fact that Justin: It was very well designed, it wasn't executed to a composure. If it was executed properly, that was a touchdown all day long, right? Because the guy was wide wide open in the end zone and he just missed him. Okay, now the deception part of it is you have two quarterbacks in the game. None of which you've got one in the slot on one side and one motioned out to the slot on the other. Which way the play going? The play goes one. Way the play can go the other way I mean you don't know where the hell to go as a defense shit They just snapped the ball to Chris Johnson you can run straight ahead There's like a million different things that can happen on that play. It's just so t-bow-esque

12:00 Jake: It's not even close to t-bow-esque t-bow wasn't even allowed to throw the ball Well, he did and he sucked and then he couldn't throw the ball anymore He's not allowed to throw the ball like he was in there to run Right. Michael Vick was in there to create. Justin: He was he was used once as a as a read option quarterback. And look, they scored a touchdown on the drive anyway. I feel like the I feel like the play call, if it would have worked, everyone would have said, whoa, that was awesome. But because he threw it about six inches out wide of decker, like, Why, why is why are you fucking around gimmick play? Guess what? We're the fucking New York Jets. We're not the Packers. We're not the Broncos. We've got Michael Vick to do a couple I don't see where it throws rhythm off. It didn't throw Geno's rhythm off. Geno had a good game. Geno back on the next play and executed a gimmicky play, right? A shovel pass. A shovel pass, right a shovel pass right a shovel pass. I just think having the shovel pass becomes not a gimmick. but he's a weapon, he's a usable weapon on the field. Jake: Okay, But you have to take a weapon off the field to put him on the field, because you can't just add him. Justin: The outcome of the play was an incomplete pass. But if you were to look at it, And what's the defense gonna react to? Jake: You're the setting it up. It's a chess game. You're just setting it up. I don't have as much faith that The chess game is as good as it's gonna be. I don't have as much faith that well. Well, I have faith in Marty taking your I just don't think that he's adding that much more that we couldn't just see a normal play and I feel like Justin: I don't know the definition of a normal play Like We're gonna do what we can. Jake: I just think if he's that much of a weapon, start him. Then let's sit, you know, and let's go with Vic.

15:02 Jake: He's the ultimate weapon. Why should he even be be off the field? If he's literally like a nuclear bomb, put him on the field all the the time. Let's just let him win games. Let's not mess around. I just. and less bringing in a backup quarterback to do three plays of which what were the outcomes of those three plays? Justin: Were the outcomes those three plays nothing, positive, but it sets it up for the future Jake: Okay, and if it works in the future on tape and we can point on tape right? But then we can point back to this game and you can say look Jake Those three plays made that play successful. And I will say, great, you're right Justin. I'll never say that ever. But that's what football's all about. Justin: Like if you think, wait, wait, wait. I mean, you watched opening night, which is now a week ago yesterday, when Seattle played against Green Bay. Yep, I did. Now, how effective was Seattle at running the... the appropriately named Jet Sweep with Percy Harvin. How effective was that? Whether they were handing it to him, faking it to him and running with Lynch, Yep, faking it and then throwing a screen all that stuff Jake: I thought the Jets were gonna be doing Justin: Well they didn't appreciate like one play, yeah, and then I thought they were gonna really go with it They did a little bit of they had an option. They ran an option play it worked Now, do you think that the team that Seattle is playing this week is like not preparing for the JET sweep coming around the corner? They probably are. They are definitely working on that and then the first time that happens and they fake it and boom it's down the field to Doug Baldwin or something you're like, oh fuck, now what do we do? Jake: Shit. Yeah, we're fucked. I don't think I don't think anybody is lining there that they're sitting in the practice field I mean now it's Friday at 3 so they're not doing it. But they're putting in a defensive package to protect from the double quarterback the the Geno out why no back it but what they are thinking about is Oh, the Jets aren't just gonna line up and play offense. But why, no, because they can't. What's the, what is the, what is the play with Gino out there? What's the play out, where's, what's his position, what can he do? What's his weapon position? Because you took a receiver off so he could sit there. Justin: He could do the exact same thing that Vic did if you just rolled it the other way. Jake: Okay. Run across, grab the ball. Justin: What Vic did was he was lined up in the slot. Yup, that's not where he was.

18:00 Justin: He was in the slot. He was in the slot. Jake: Geno was also in the slot. They could have ran the play either way they wanted. Justin: The ball was snapped directly to Chris Johnson who ran to his right. Vic was that way. He shoveled it back to Vic, a backwards lateral, which meant he could still throw the And he could have His right and throwing the ball. Who knows what'll happen the next time they line up in that in that same formation? Maybe they roll it with Vic. Maybe they roll it with Gino. Maybe they roll it like a triple reverse . They snap it to they glareda Chris Johnson, he runs towards Gino, gives a little toss back to Gino. Gino runs towards Vic, hands it to Vic, and Vic's now either a run pass option. You've got a lot of options off of this play. Jake: And now, there's 15 yards behind the vagina scrimmage, and it gets tackled. And the defense has no fucking clue where to be. Well, they're... They're and all the way through can be done off of moving players around. Alright, so you're happy with the VIC experiment? It's one game! I just wish it was a backup! ...... to Here's I feel like the I feel like it's, There's no frenzy No I'm not and of course Justin: So fans that you're talking about, they're not ever happy. Well, that's true. So they're not going to be happy if genius throw them four touchdowns. Jake: I know one because he born you. Justin: Yes, my dad never happy ever. The Jets will suck forever in my dad's mind until they win a Super Bowl. And then he'll be like, oh, they were good this year. Oh, yeah, they're pretty good this year. Jake: All right. Let's talk about more stuff. We've now been 20 minutes of us bantering over this. Justin: So what'd you think? back in the next video. Jake: I'll see you next time. Um, how do you look in person? I don't know. I could in person didn't mean anything to me It didn't really mean anything to you because you'd like those great salads. That's right half the time I thought he was uh, I can't remember the guy we just got rid of relentable It's end of a long day When I rewatched it and I rewatched the condensed version on TV and

21:03 Jake: that's true. But he's not AJ Green. He's not the. He's a. Okay he's helping, I mean he's helping move the chains. Yeah. Justin: The screen worked quite a few times. Yep. They ran that a couple times. What did um did chris johnson, look quick in person you look good on tv Yeah, once you got outside you're running a mid side to tackles a lot which was a little surprising but Whatever we're gonna be able to run we're gonna be, able to run on green bay, we'll talk, about yeah Talk about that. Jake: Let's go with your play the game, because I have my play the game. So my play... Justin: Oh, we talked about, we did talk about your play. So neither of our plays of the game are going to be the Chris Ivory ivory touchdown because I- No. I'm not going to actually use that one. I play the game and this was some. the. Some other analyst was talking about this. They were like, David Carr was looking really good in the first half. Until the time at which Calvin Pryor almost picked him off. We had two almost picked us one thing. Kyle, Kyle, yeah. And one was like thrown. It was a blitz. We blitz the crap he was scared. He threw. Threw it where he thought his receiver was going to be. and Calvin Pries was standing there and it hits them right in the chest. And that rattled the fuck out of David Card. He's the same. until like the end of the game when it was just like, b. So I think that was my. My. Play the game. It was just a defensive play that it was an all out. Let's let's get on top of this quarterback. Put some pressure on him. And and then an almost interception for prior being in the right place. Right time. Defense blue. I really liked that that Copel's Smack-down of Maurice Jones Drew 1000 Jake: . That's awesome. They also looked. We had three pick that. That should have been our, and maybe a touchdown. I mean, he literally just happens to be standing there to grab I'm the only he's the. Only one there the quarterback. I know but the only one there the I know but like what a play I know Justin: And I think, you know, for all that was talked about while we went against the rookie receiver and some crappy little short receiver screens, those one yard passes all the way out there and then

24:05 Justin: it's like a one on.-on one. He's built for that. Don't do that. He's a safety. He's going to make that tackle. Like on third and five last year, Cromartie gave up first downs on that all the time. It was. Oh, we got one on one on Cromartie. He's, not gonna bump, right? He's gonna give yards. I'll just chuck it out there And he'll just not be able to tackle the guy fast enough right and Antonio Right. Jake: May's gonna. Try indeed. They're gonna try a cup. They're gonna try again and again again Oh, yeah, and when we hit the lens for that vertical past vertical shit They're gonna try him and watching how they you know just Justin: Megatron and Golden Tate had big games against the Giants and with John the secondaries Jake: On paper on paper, so that's your play a game and who's your night of the to You know my night of the game, it's gonna sound a little weird. Justin: Joni-tic. No, Joni- The fans. I don' do those things, you do those. The fans. No. That's your dumbest thing you do. The cheerleaders. You do.- No, you know- I'm gonna pick Chris Johnson. Okay. Didn't have a flashy game, statistic-wise. But lot easier. Because when you have a guy out there that you have to pay attention to, which we really haven't had in a little while in the backfield. I mean, did you really have to pay attention to Sean Green? No, because he wasn't doing much except taking the ball and running up the middle for four yards. Even Thomas Jones, Lydani and Tomlinson that first year had a little bit of like... But even still, it was like, old, we don't really need to pay pay attention to this guy. Chris Johnson's everywhere. They're lining him up in weird places. They're running an option play. In the NFL, an option? I mean, really? I'm looking at R-O-O. I think that he's just a very steadying influence on the field. He's durable. He's reliable. I just I like him even on the goal line. Like I think he's tough. I think he'so a tough runner and I thought he had a very steady game while Ivory had the line because he had the 71 yard touchdown run.

27:18 Justin: That's all set up But I'm gonna go Chris Johnson. Jake: It's probably not what you're expecting. I want to pick Michael Vick. Okay. Just kidding. I actually don't know. I'm going to put my play the game first, which I was describing last night. I don't know where it happened. Just watching it in the replay. And I was just stunned by seeing it because I hadn't seen it in a game in a while, which was it was a screen, a setup screen by the Oakland Raiders. The. came, you know, they came hard and that was the idea of it. And all of a sudden they just pull up. They like horses. They just pulled up because they recognize and the whole on did it in unison and they just recognize this- is a screen and they pulled up and they were five, six feet away from David Carr. They could have sacked him. But obviously they pulled up and they, you know, then he threw it and they tackled the guy. That line is dangerously, not only powerful, strong, powerful, whatever, all the, you know, but they're a smart line. And like, I know that's a stupid thing to say, but it's like, I think that they, they're gonna play at a different level this year. And maybe it's just one play, maybe I'm being impressed by something that every line does. I feel like there's years I just watch everybody go straight through and that's why that screen works and they go for 30 Right, whereas these guys pulled up and they're just they recognize the play and that's just smart and I give you know I give them all the credit for that players On that play. Yeah, just that play that you're talking about. I think that was a play that Muhammad Wilkerson got I'm I Yeah, as Rex was it was all about in his postgame press conference. So that's my that's my Pick and my night of the game. Yeah, I ain't night of the game. All right, let's talk about some news Okay There's nothing going on nothing in the NFL that I can think of so this is gonna be a sensitive topic

30:02 Jake: But I feel like we're You're a broadcaster, I'm a podcaster. Right, I have standards. Like the NFL, I have standards. You have standards about beating your wife. So it came out this week. There's actually two big pieces of news. One that's happening now and there's probably something But those are the siding of the new, This week, the big news came out You with this his, you know, knocked out or passed out or whatever he might have said, you know, fiance, they decide not to press charges. They kind of, they got under. he then married her. and he got suspended by the NFL. But yet, you know, you smoke pot and you get you're out for the season or first eight games or whatever, or you do some steroids. You're out for four games. It's just ridiculous. So Roger Goodell did the mea culpa. I I'm sorry. They did a new policy. It's now very much stringent, but kind of too late because may rice has already gotten his thing. but now the video pops and it's the video inside the elevator that shows him cl basically Roger Goodell's between a rock and a hard place, because if the video was in his office, he didn't know about it, well bad on him. If he did know about it, he lied directly to everybody. If he, and then the last piece that I think where they're going with the argument was, he didn't know about the video. He knew that thereBwas a video, but he thought you couldn't ask for the video. But you're an ex-lawyer. Why do you not know or can't you, you have millions of lawyers, why can't you go ask somebody if you can get the video? So I have one thing though. Let me just say one thing. I said a lot, but let me say one thing. You said so much and you're not letting me get in here. Let me say one thing. Say whatever you want to say. The only thing that bugs me about this whole thing. Yeah. Oh, the Ravens then suspend him forever, kick him off. Well they fired him. Fired him, cut his contract. and the NFL suspended him indefinitely. Here's the thing that really bugs me about this story. The facts of what happened in that elevator never changed. Justin: Never changed. Jake: So annoying. There's absolutely nothing different. A- A man and a woman walk into an elevator. A man knocks a woman out and drags her body outside.

33:01 Jake: That's fact. Everybody knew. Ray Rice. Yes. said that's what I did he never said oh she fell on a He never said I used chloroform he never said oh it we developed so the thing that you That you so there was a video that had come out that was outside outside of the element So him dragging out of the elevator yes, and then it was you know okay Ray, what happened inside the elevator? And he said that he hit her. Right. And she hit her head on the on the on the railing and she was knocked out and he dragged her out, whatever. And I I'm with you. That's I. Biggest thing on this thing is how. Is it that made it that much worse? Justin: Like that you went from, okay it's a two game whatever, welcome back in two weeks. Welcome back in week three. Never play again. Like actually welcome back today because the Ravens have played their two games. Oh right. So welcome back now. Ten days into the season. Right. Versus never never, we come back ever. Right. Even though the facts of the story have not changed. Even though we know, you told us that you hit her, she fell into the railing of the thing and between a professional football player punching a very, you know, thin, thin in the face, I mean, you could have punched you in the face, me in the face, we're on the ground. Yeah, okay. I'm knocked out. Yeah, we're out. He's an NFL football player. We're out for a while. Right. Like night night zone. And then to boot, she's hitting her head on the railing, which is just insult to injury. But... None of the facts changed. All that happened was the visual is so appalling that the public opinion went from Jake: Oh shit that's bad. When in reality it was always this bad people. It was always this bad. And I think the people who come off working the worst is not the NFL. I think it's actually the Ravens. Because the Ravens are the ones who... took the biggest jump from what happened and what happened. The facts and the facts. They went from, let the NFL decide, oh you guys have spent it for two weeks, and welcome back Ray Rice to your cut. I feel like they made the biggest, the biggest like. Thank you. We're making a PR. We're gonna get slammed in the PR. We have to get rid of them and I just They'd the NFL they, they have their mistakes and we'll find out what happens to investigate I'm not doing the investigation piece of it. They made their their They obviously should have gone longer and you know, they should have given it more but they actually admitted it They came forward and said we're gonna change our policy. Whatever. This is not the way it should go down

36:03 Jake: Now, did they do that knowing that this video would come out? I mean, how would it look if they hadn't changed the policy and this video came out and then you just spend them for a year? The whole thing is just TMZ very calculating. Justin: They managed to during the opening weekend of National Football League, right, between the Sunday night game and the Monday night game, right, completely dominate. Yeah, everything and they're still you know last night's telecast of It was the Ravens versus Steelers was the Ray Rice pregame show right the first half hour was Ray Rice Ray Rice and a little bit more Ray Rice, right and Jake: It's just a shame that that that this is taking like such a Justin: such a horrible thing to see and you know CBS ESPN, I can like not watch it if I choose to not watch it Cause it's like yeah Ray Rice. Had this video in the elevator and then boom cut to like 10 seconds. Like you know what I've seen it now. I don't really need to see it again. I don't know. It's not doing anything for me at this point, but sort of bothering me. I don't need, need to see it again. Kind of annoying. Jake: I, I, I, what if a kid is watching the game? Oh, my 9 year old daughter, they were talking about in the park and somehow it got to her and she had to ask and then I don't know. I, it's, it's terrible stuff. I try not to get to go one way or the other. It's kind of the way I feel about Vic. Like I'm a person who I think he did terrible thing. I'm never gonna, I personally don't sort of forgive him. I know it's a stupid thing to say, but I don't forgive Michael Vic for torturing and killing animals. I think he did it of his own free will. I think he did it, whatever. I think he paid, in our society, in our judicial system, he paid the price that he was supposed to pay. He went to jail, he did his thing, he came back out, he lost millions of dollars, and he has worked hard, from what I can hear, I'm not involved in those organizations, to try to make something better of it. I hope only this man who He's saying it's the first time ever. I cannot imagine that ever to be true. They were both drunk, I totally understand, but I'm hoping that he gets a chance to take this tragedy and turn it into something positive that the rest of society then can use as a way to... bring up this issue, to make sure that it is something that doesn't happen again, to make it better aware. It's always with a tragedy that we can then look back and figure out something that's good. It is a shame that the video had to come out for this to happen though. Right. Because the outrage wasn't there without the video. Yeah. And he could have... Or the level of it. Apparently.

39:00 Jake: It was at a five. It went to a ten. They did get married. After this happened like and they were working on it and working through and now it just throws this right back Justin: For better or worse, she, for better or worse, whatever she she decided it's her life and it's his life and they decided that they were going to get married. So whatever they, said to each other in private is private. So, you know, the the fact of the matter is they were moving on. they were moving past it now they had to be dragged right back into the this mother now I'm so we're talking about it right but I'm glad they were Jake: dragged back in it the because I'm glad that this came out I'm glad. Well, he's just been handled the right way from the start, which is the ultimate problem. Right. And again, I think they'll make it right. I think they'll come around on it. It is the NFL is cringing at this, you know, because it is. It's not what they want for their opening weekend. Right. They want they want football. Did you see that that CBS, the CBS is not a Thursday game. One of the things that they're doing is they're not. They're not playing Rihanna's song as the opener because she was abused by her boyfriend. Justin: That just makes no sense. Sorry. Jake: I mean, is it... That's going over... that's like too much. Then don't show any... then you know what? Don't take any advertising money from anybody who has anything that's violent. Don't show any violent ad for... Never. For video games anymore. No R rated movies. What does nothing? What does playing Rihanna song a That one I don't get I mean I get the connection, but what are you saying? Oh, then I can say them. I mean, this is, this is rich fucking white dude sitting in a Justin: boardroom room. Oh, oh you. Oh, what else? Oh shit this Rihanna, who the hell is Rih, well she got she's famous for You know getting into domestic dispute with with Chris Brown. Well, she's been in the we can ways she's been in the- We can't we can't play her music right Okay, Credo, Memo, send it, someone, dictation, dictation lady. Come here, Memo, no Rihanna. No Rihanna during the games. Jake: Cause Rihanna equals abuse. Justin: Rihanna equals domestic abuse. I see it happening now. There's abuse happening right now. Cause of Rihanna. So stupid. Fuck all of them. Let's talk about the Jack Kingdom fantasy league. Jake: All right. Let's not. I'm not gonna make a bad joke right now. I will not do it. Okay, let's go and let's talk about it So as what happened week one, so as the reigning champion of the 12 team Jet Kingdom fantasy league I was last year what happened here by say I'm taking the year off what happened

42:00 Jake: I'm a time you we've done. I'm John John Avro everyone who's not in the league. Here's what happened week one I got you played me and I beat you by 50 points 51 points. 51 points. 51 points I beat you by. What happened to me? You lost. I know, but what happened? You know what happened? You lost. Yeah, how did I lose? You lost. Terrible. Oh, I lost because Doug Martin was terrible. Crap G. It's because you're terrible. And then David Allen Nelson was your jet. Apparently he's David Allen Nelson. And Jimmy Graham didn't really do much. Your problem is that my team is awesome and your team. Your team was pretty good. You were able to play. Well, your your tight end was awesomely terrible. Jordan Reed. But you basically got saved by Calvin Johnson and and Lavy Amel Amrashad Jennings and Andy Dalton and Blair Walsh. Justin: and the Jets defense and I dominated your fucking face. Alright, well that's a good fear. Just a whole handful of my own duck butter Jake: and put it all up in your face is what I did. It's a long season buddy. I only play you and when I play you and win I'm happy. Hey sizzle daddy death jets Take him out to the house tonight because he doesn't care about playing. He did. Well the sizzle daddy's I think he's a good plan and then dogs Vic miss pass talking about badly thing Stephen Peterson I'm up against you this week. So we'll see member get your jets in line, but let's move on to the and no Packers this week Packers are a fantasy team. No, Aaron Rodgers. No Eddie Lacey. No, Rogers. No Lacey No, Jordy Nelson's or you don't want to see them immediately. Let's talk about the checking to pick them How do you do in your pick last night? I lost how do you lose? I don't know I get God you're so good and you know what the funny part is I would have actually Well worse is I picked it and I didn't get it right. So if you are new to the Checking them podcast every week We do somehow the checking if you're new to this podcast and you're still listening at Justin: At this point God bless you Jake: You are you got Sorry, guys, this is the way it happens on a Friday. This is what happens. It's Friday. It's happening. The afternoon. Let's bang. Let's bang. All right. Baltimore and Pittsburgh. That happened last night. Baltimore won. All right. So for them we pick every game is a checking pick every single game against the spread, but we do not talk about the AFC East because we get to those in the aforementioned and AFC East. thrown pics that's a fucking mouth if CEP okay hey if if if it's tic tic whatever okay let's get

45:03 Jake: started yes all right Cincinnati hosts Atlanta since by the way I was a victor I'm just like it was also a victor this is the hardest week to pick very hard First week is because you're going on your assumptions of last year. I'm so this is like they kind of came together like Pittsburgh and I Knew Pittsburgh thinking you guys are to these fucking place It's like I feel like we're an hour into this fucking thing. We're 45 minutes. Oh my god. All right So Cincinnati is hosting Atlanta. Yeah Cincinnati is giving five at home I think that should be three. I'm gonna pick Atlanta. I Too think that has gotten a little bit of the groove back. They won. Yeah, and I think they rose up. I'm saying they got that. They're not typically a good traveling team Justin: Cincinnati's also a very good home team. So we should we switch our pick? No, I'm awful at this Jake: So right, I'm whatever I'm saying go opposite. Well cuz we both We picked five correct last week. Oh, we didn't say who was... 11 who did the best of last week? I will say Best of the week was And I'm riveting Mean machine way to go and upper decker. Okay. Good name both got nine 9's a lot and this we with you are five this is like a full slate here nine is not great All right, or at least a few they got zero Justin: so next Orleans is traveling to Cleveland Cleveland's home and New Orleans favored by six and a half in Cleveland. Oh, that's terrible. Jake: It's terrible lines. Very difficult. I'm going to pick Cleveland at home. Six and a half. I do not, not believe in Cleveland. I want to pick Noroleans. They typically don't play well on the road either, Justin: but they're going to this week. Tennessee is hosting Dallas. Yep, Dallas looked horrid. Tennessee is giving three and a half. I like Tennessee here. Lock it in. Jake: Really like that team this year. Really a fan of that. I like their head coach. I like their quarterback. As long as he stays healthy. I like that team. Dallas is an eight and eight team. Dallas is not even an eight and eight team. In order to get to eight and eight, they got to win one, lose one, win one, lose one. I don't think they are. Did you watch them? No, they were bad. I don't feel like that's a true... Cause they played the Niners, but they were home. I know, but the Niners. They were terrible. The Niners are good. That's why I put them in the debate. But people think the Niners are like down cause they're injured. Justin: Like they don't even have all their players.

48:01 Jake: And they're still good. That's how bad Dallas is. Yeah. They're terrible. Dallas is going to define the win. Justin: I think Dallas here, so they're going to win on the road. Okie dokie. Tony Wilma. Speaking of bad NFC East teams. Arizona. Oh no. after playing really really late on Monday night has to travel across the country to play at New York and they're favored by two and a half points Jake: and this spread has flipped from negative two and a half to two and a half um it will get the spread over the week that's that's a big flip yeah that I don't think that's right it did it went from negative two and a half to negative one to two to two and a half Justin: I don't know how to really read that. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, final. Original line came out on Monday. That's saying the Giants were favored? Jake: Yeah, because they hadn't played, yet. No, it's the whole back zone. And the Giants hadn't played, yet. Yes, that's right. Okay, the next day, the next day they were like, oh. They're terrible. The next week, they're like, oh, they're really terrible. Allhtaking Arizona until the Giants show that they can play offense. Justin: Arizona is a good defense, they have a great secondary, and I just doubt the Giants are gonna be able to throw the ball, or run the ball against them. Jake: I just can't see how they score more than 10 points. I think they'll get a little... I think the Giants are gonna get a little bump at home. Justin: Did you watch how bad they were? Yes, I know. Jake: They looked like Little League. But they're gonna figure it out, and I feel like they'll figure it out a little bit at home. I feel like they're gonna figure it out, but it's not gonna be till too late. Yeah. If they were playing, if they were playing like Washington at home this week, I'd pick Washington. But I but why Arizona is a better team than I understand, but I don't think that they're going to go all the way across the country late, come to New York. I think they're going to be fired up at home home opener. I don't see them losing. Okay, that's my lock of the week. Justin: I'll bet you're on the side on that. Yeah, how much? Jelly beans. Jake: We've been spread or are we betting like straight up when? Straight up when? Yeah, baby. Yeah, I'm funny there. I got a couple G's I got 2,000 7,000 I'll bet you seven thousand dollars. All right. All right Pause in your Washington is home For Jacksonville and Washington is favored by six Two bad teams. Justin: I'm just going to take the points. Jake: Give me Jacksonville. We're not here. This is going to be one. One of us is going to do well this week. One of those is not. I actually feel that Washington is going to Oh, they lost. Yeah, they lost in Houston. Yeah, I feel like this is scored six points against Houston again I feel like this there's things that are gonna settle out of bad teams and good teams. I don't think Washington's that team

51:03 Justin: They're not that bad. I think they're pretty bad. They're like four games last year Jake: All right, we'll keep going and Jacksonville is a terrible team and they Yeah, but I feel Yeah but they like put up a fight against, against Philly. They, for half. Alright, that's better than nothing. They were up 17-?0 at the half and they lost 17.0 at the half. Yeah, but do you think Washington is as explosive as Philly is? Why not? DeShawn Jackson? DeShawn Jackson? Boom. Justin: I know this is when they show it. Okay, watch it. Write it. Lock it down. Carolina is home against Detroit. Again, come on. Carolina is showing that they can They played the Giants which made them look a little better. Is Cam Newton playing? Jake: Mm-hmm. Alright, then I'm gonna pick Carolina. Carolina by two and a half. Much better than I have seen him in the past. I Just don't see how they're gonna cover that or keep up with them I don't think I have a keep up gonna be all pressure It doesn't have all pressure. Although don't tell me this is a just one. No, I Seattle is favored by six on the road. I don't like that. I've never really thought, I think Seattle is having watched that game and having watched them last year and they're my super well picked. I think they're just a year away from here. So they're one of the better teams that we've seen in a while. They're very balanced at all levels. Yep. Their quarterback is very good. They have a very good running game. They've got capable receivers. Their defense is solid at every single thing on the field they could cover. What I will say about Seattle sorry, Amy your right on your Sharon your Richard Sherman's a a punk ass bitch Justin: Here's why Richard Sherman's a punk because he claims to be the best corner in the league Yep, but he doesn't follow the best receiver on the other team plays his side of the field And if you just choose to put your best two receivers on the other side the that a. M

54:16 Jake: you He's a punk. I think Seattle still is a lawmaker. He's a punk. team in the points. Give me Sandigos. I mean literally our first agreement. I'm taking Sandigos. All right. Uh, that's the first four o'clock game, by the way, a lot of four. A lot of four o'clock. We are one of them which kind of ruins it, but there's a lot of four o'clock. Why does that ruin it? Justin: Well, cuz when there's a lot of four o'clock games, it's a great like red zone time Because usually there's like three but this week. There's like one two three four Jake: Five that's great red zone, but when the Jets are on it's like fuck the red zone I'm watching the Jets right, but I like it cuz that means the one o'clock I can really just watch a lot of football. I'd rather just get the Jets over at one and Justin: Watch a lot of stuff later anyway go on Tampa Bay go on hosting st. Louis And as bad as Tampa looked against Carolina St. Louis looked way worse against Minnesota. They could be the worst team in the league. They could be worse than Oakland. I don't know who their quarterback is right now. Sean, I'm not wearing a hill. Jake: So who the hell is... I don't know. Doesn't even matter. I'm at home giving five and a half. I know how bad McAllen looked, but Carolina could make a lot of guys look that bad. Right. Me too. I'll take Tampa Bay. I'll I'll just take it. I got Tampa Bay D going in one of my leagues and I think Oh, yeah, and the JK League and they was It was pissing me off last week, but I feel like this is the week they'll do it. I'll get it back 425 now Denver is hosting Kansas City That's a very good game. I don't think Kansas City's that good. How did they go from being 12 and 4 last year? 11 and 5. 11 and 5? But remember they were like 9 and 0. So injuries? Yeah. Schedule? Yeah. They were last place. Right. So now you're playing a second place schedule, which is a little different. Justin: And... You're you're just you're just That first year bump Like doesn't carry over necessarily when you go from a terrible coach to a good coach like sure He's good coach. He's still a good coach, and you'll probably be pretty decent But you're not gonna be like 9 and 0 decent no But it's just and they're how are they go from injuries injuries injuries injuries? I mean they were depleted by the end of last year okay, and I think In all honesty, I think that that that playoff loss

57:03 Justin: can carry over as a hangover. It's a playoff loss hangover. I mean, what were they? Five, 10 in the second half or something ridiculous like that. And Andrew Luck is like, oh, this is where I love being. I don't know. I'm gonna fucking win this game easy now. This is Doug butter. This is easy now. Jake: Alright, let's do it. So Denver's and a half I see the back door Kansas City cover. Yeah, not picking. 12 and a half is right over my comforts. 10 and a half is basically over my cover spot. I'm going. I'll take the points. This is the only double digit. Yeah, for you and your suicide people. I know every is going to be on Denver this week. Justin: I'm on the Saints. So you lost week one, because you and your stupid friends couldn't pick. Jake: Fucking bills, because I was trying to get him to pick the Jets and he wouldn't do it. Right. Alright. Uhh... Last four o'clock game. So we're not talking about the Jets. Justin: Houston at Oakland! What a terrible game. I'm gonna pick Houston because I watched Oakland play. They're not good at football. So Houston's favored by three. I will take them on the road and I'll give the three points. Jake: I don't think Oakland's good, but I don't. What's good about Houston? I don't know. They just won last week. Yeah, you just said against the terrible, terrible Washington Redskins. Okay, so the terrible, terrible Oakland Raiders. Don't say Redskins on my podcast. This is explicit, but it doesn't say double explicit. You don't own a podcast. Don't say that word. You're fired. I'll bleep you. I'll take Oakland. I will bleep you. Justin: You can't. I won't fucking bleep you bitch yourself. All right prime time Sunday night. We got two good prime time games Jake: I think Sunday's better than Monday I agree the Sunday night games better than Monday, but Monday should be pretty good anyway. It'll be good I'm excited to see the what I'm excited to watch the Philly offense again. It's really fun to watch Justin: Yeah, they are now a very fun team to watch play for easy just craziness and And there's always the chance. Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez enters the game. Which I will just, I'll duck butter all over myself. But anyway, San Francisco is hosting Chicago. They're opening their stadium, the new stadium. They're favored by seven and I just can't see, I don't think Al-Shaun Jeffery's playing in this game for Chicago. Marshall's probably gonna play. They're saying he's gonna give it a shot, today, in practice and see how it goes. Right. and see how it So to not. So to not both those guys in the field would be a real catastrophe for Chicago. Jake: Because they'll shut down their running game pretty quickly. Justin: And when Antonio Holmes is your number one receiver, we know how bad that is. Jake: Also, Antonio Holmes six years ago? Justin: No, now. Even worse. Jake: So I'll take San Francisco and lay the seven. I too will take San Francisco. That crowd's gonna be pretty raucous. I could see them also winning by seven. Like this is a... Yeah, I mean they could be up, like they were to Dallas, they were up like 21-nothing and then it ended up 28-17. Right. Justin: There was like nothing to that second half though. And then Monday Night Football. Dun dun dun dun.

1:00:00 Justin: Indy, now on prime time two weeks in a row. Right? They were the Sunday night game last week, and they're the Monday night game this week. Indie is hosting Philadelphia and giving the standard three. Indie's scary to bet, because you never know, like they're never out of it. But sometimes they're not even in it. It's such a weird dynamic watching them. What are you even saying? Well, like they're down like 21 nothing before the game even starts, it feels like. It's like, oh yeah, this game's gonna start and they're gonna be down 24-3. And then you're gonna have to wait around in the fourth quarter to see if they come back. For that reason and that reason alone, I'm picking Philadelphia. Jake: I do not know I'm picking because I'm putting in some other scores, but I'm picking Philadelphia. Thank you. Okay. And there, there, there you have it. All right, now we get to the real shit, shit. You ready? I'm ready. Let's go for the newly renamed. No, let's do another one. Let's do, hey, let's do our packs. Okay. All right. So match up. The last place New England Patriots Last place New England Patriots Last place New England Patriots First time was the last time they lost the opener? They lost the opener? I don't know. They won the Super Bowl. That's the last act. Good news. Justin: Well, the pads. Retooled pads. Are going on the road to play Minnesota. Did you watch the New England game? Jake: I saw nothing of it. None of it. Because my wife, not a thing. I was at the game. I was also out. My wife was extremely happy. She's a dolphin fan. Well, it seemed like they dominated the second Justin: half. A lot like the Jets dominated the Patriots in the second half when we beat them last year. Jake: It sounded a lot like that. Just, she just said, Tom Brady just looked like he couldn't throw a involved. There was no one there. Justin: Just it was not retiring until he sucks. Hopefully he sucks now. They were they were all Yeah, I know Jake: All right, so go ahead so the New England New England's on the road they're going to Minnesota They start two games on the road. That's kind of that's a tough like to start in Miami division rival I will then go to Minnesota. That's not a fun schedule Yeah, it makes the rest of the schedule easier, I guess. Justin: If you can loot a stone too. Yeah, a stone too is not the worst thing in the universe. So New England is playing a little catch up. They're the only team in the division, oddly enough. If you go to bet on that, like, all right. In the AFC East, there's gonna be one team that's 0-1 and three teams that are gonna be 1-0. Right. I mean, the odds on that one being the Pats is gonna be pretty ridiculous. Anyway, they're 0-1 and Minnesota blew the fucking door off the hinges. Jake: They were like, they just... dominated against the Rams.

1:03:00 Jake: They're playing a crappy team. Justin: Yeah, well, by all accounts, Minnesota is like, you know, Matt Castle. Very scary. Jake: How many times does Matt Castle gone against and played against the Patriots? I a don't know. How many? Zero. He's never played the Pats. Even when he was a Kansas, Kansas City. They never played. So we played them. No. All right. Well, first time for everything. Justin: I think New England comes back with. Jake: I I don't think that's gonna... When does the world collide or collapse up in New England? When they're 0 and 2 and they're like 1 and 3? When do they start like shivering? I think Owen too they're not happy because they don't know what it feels like to be Owen too. Last time they were Owen too didn't they win a- Super Bowl or was that just Owen one? No, it was Owen one. So I actually think I mean You think they're really gonna lose to Minnesota? I think they're gonna lose. I think they're gonna lose. I really do. I just think- Justin: How's Minnesota gonna put up 26 against the Pats? Why not? They got weapons? I'm just wondering. They're gonna run it? They're gonna run it all over? Yeah, why not? I guess they could. New England didn't show that they could stop the run last week. Jake: Didn't both Lamar and Moreno have good games? Moreno had a great game. I think it was the high rusher. So if he can rush, why can't ajian pierce just blow them up? I guess. Peterson didn't have a great game against the Rams though. Yeah, the Rams have a good defense. They're supposed to have a really good defense too. Justin: Yeah, didn't stop them. Didn't stop. Mine was going 31 points on them. Maybe Miami could play some offense. Maybe this guy really did bring in this like more. I was trying to ask your wife. The laser. The laser beam. Jake: I was- I was trying to ask her like. Justin: She kind of wasn She kind of wasn't understanding 23 Wow yeah and once again in the AFC East we only have three games this week cuz Miami's playing in Buffalo We got to watch this game. This is one o'clock er. I think it we get this one up in the On the command center man said I'm gonna up on the corner. We're definitely gonna have it cuz it's the fins Jake: Oh fantastic, so I got to come watch we get that one with volume If you're invited. I'm invited. Is, is... Hahaha! I just live there. Can, can we get volume on that one? Is that possible? You seriously sitting on the podcast asking ifiasco if you can get volume, in the

1:06:01 Jake: the K, on one of the games? Maybe. You probably could., but, you're really good. But your wife, your wife is going to the big screen on the bottom, I'll flip it. Is your wife gonna let me root for the bills? No. She'll I have to sit there for the fins. No, you have to shut the fuck up. I'll just be quiet. Justin: I can sit I wish all right the fins are in Buffalo where they say squish the fish and Miami's favorite on the road Don't like it, and I think they should be I think after The Miami win is slightly more impressive than the Bills win I'm gonna give this one to the Finny Fin Fins and I mean I don't like this because one of these teams is gonna be 2-0 and I don't like it so I don't like it at all. Jake: I have no worries about these teams being 2-0. Justin: And I really don't like the fact that I think my... because I think Miami is the better of the teams. I don't want them to... . and - Jake: I like Miami You know bills everybody talking about this thing it happened like four years ago. They were five, you know, remember that Oh Good real good start and then they just put Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, and they went like contract and then he plummeted But we felt contracts are useless. Yes, but so my buddy sent me a good photo I have a bills fan friends. Yes, and he sent me a photo of Sunday morning Justin: He made toast and somehow, somehow he like Embossed. They have a toast to it does that. Yeah, so it had it was like the Bill's logo So I was like, oh predicting how you're gonna be toast this season or whatever Whatever witty would be a text me back layers like I'm making this toast Every single weekend Jake: Well, here's the thing We're not superstitious at all in our family But I went to the game as you know because I made fun of that we're not I'm going for about half an hour What did the dog wear and the dog wore the Dolphins jersey? So my daughter who's a Jets fan? Nine year old says I, no, next week he's wearing the Jets, and I'm kinda like, no, let's just keep it to fine, because the Jets won, and the Dolphins won,

1:09:02 Jake: but the Patriots lost, and I'll take a Patriots loss, the Dolphins win, the Jets win any day-day of the week. So, keep the dog. Justin: That makes a happy, happy family. Jake: So keep the dog wearing the Dolphins, and I don't have to walk the dog if the dog is wearing a Dolphins. Oh yeah, I'm just not walking. Nope, not being seen with him. Justin: Fucking dog. Nope. Take that shit off. Dicky dog. Kick you. Kick you down the street with the dolphin jersey on. Stupid dog. Oh man, that's terrible. We don't mean it. Jake: No, I love my dog. He's very sweet. People are so sensitive. He does like to wear a little outfit so he's stupid. Justin: He is stupid. He wears his stupid outfit. He's very sweet. He's fucking Halloween. He loves his Halloween outfit. He gets dressed up as an evil... Jake: Wizard. Oh, yeah, he didn't do the wizard. He's done like Alright, let's keep going. We're an hour. I like what he's an elf around Christmas now So I am picking I already said I'm picking Buffalo to win 20 to 13 Justin: Let's get to the century Game of the season so far. go to Frost's Rasty Lambeau Field. Jake: Really? 85 degrees and sunny! Ball me Lambeau Field. Tab, bring your sunscreen. The Cheese Heads. This is a bummer. This game is so early in the season because I wanted to go to this game. I haven't been to the stadium. Why didn't you go? It's too early in the season. Why the fuck does that matter? Because the beginning season is tough to like schedule the travel. So you'd rather be like sitting in the negative 20 degree weather. October, November, we would have gone. But this is too soon. From we just traveled in August, it's the school starting. This is not a good time in fucking NFL schedule makers. Well, four years from now, maybe you'll get a chance. Maybe it'll be here in four years. Do they rotate like that? Yes, they do. Yes, so you got eight years. All right, so What's going on we got D milliner back maybe yeah, so the the story that I think is hitting the wires that were literally popping up in my face as I Record this long podcast is playing but not starting. I'm not starting No sense to me. Justin: Why not start him if he can play and then if he can't go pull him? Why would you just throw him into the thick of things? You're not getting warm by standing there. You're warmest at the start of the game if you ask me. Jake: Does he think that he actually is a better shot with these other two than him? Justin: Maybe I say if he can't start don't- Jake: We got three more weeks of having parted by fucking Megatron's everywhere. So why not wait? Justin: Like next week's the Bears, right? So it's Brandon Marshall. The week after that's Megatron. And the week after that is whoever Keenan Allen. Jake: And the week after that is Demary's Thomas. The week after that is whoever New England's got out there. I'm less than us worried about that one. Who wants to play that nonsense?

1:12:01 Jake: So yeah. So give me your maybe. And Eddie Lacer is playing. Eddie Lacer's playing. It sounds like Balaga is also playing for Green Bay. So it sounds like two healthy teams. Playing each other for the most pirate which is fair and good. This is the worst matchup on the planet. We have a... If you want the perfect storm of like a huge, huge blowout, you take the good team of the Green Bay who went on and in terrible fashion, you know, got blown up in Seattle, embarrassed, I would say, and then has to come home to a home opener. They're not a team that you expect to go 0, 2. They're coming home to their home opener. Crowds can be in it. They're gonna mean it and they're a passing although they've been switching motor running game but they're a passing game they have the weapons I have the quarterback and They want to pass they're going up against the Jets now having come off a win Which I think they thought we thought everybody gonna win They have to go on the road to Lambo with what everybody's saying and you know maybe again like everybody said last year that the bucks are so good we'll see what we think in 10 weeks we might be going this is a great secondary but right now it's a patchwork secondary. Patchwork at best. At best and you know this looks like on paper a 31 13 victory So tell me how that's not gonna happen or if they're a loss for the chat Justin: So tell me, me how that's not gonna happen. Well, here's you know what I think there's a silver lining in Eddie Lacey playing What's that? Calvin Piers gonna knock him out? No, no, no, no, the silver lining in Eddie Lacey playing Jake: Is that have a run game? They are going to try to actually use him. Right. Justin: Which is good for us, because what we don't want is the game down. Well, not only does it slow the game down, it plays to our strength on. defense like I'd much rather them hand the ball to Eddie Lacey than Aaron Rodgers drop back and pass. And on any play on any down first and 10 second and third and 12. I don't care. I'd much rather see. hand the ball to Eddie Lacey, then Aaron Rodgers drop back, throw the ball 40 yards down the field, back shoulder fade to to Jordy Nelson. Any any play. Yeah. So on first and 10, if Eddie Lacey standing there, the temptation is going to be to hand him the ball. And I'm happy to give them second and eight every goddamn time. Because I don't think Eddie Lacey is the kind of runner that challenges our run defense. I think the kind of runner that can challenge the Jets defense is more shifty than Eddie Lacey is, who's more of a straight ahead pound jig kind of guy. I think the shiftier kind of guys, the quicker dudes, the smaller guys that are quick and fast. challenge us more than these guys who try and just run through like like you know if I was looking at the Jets backfield I'd be more afraid of you know even

1:15:05 Justin: Blah Powell than I would be of Chris Ivory I mean Chris Ivory fuck him we'll just tackle him you know we're good at tackling yeah except for when we play him Jake: and he went for 99 yards Chris Ivory not because I'm sorry Chris Johnson Justin: Well, that's what I'm saying. I'd be much more afraid of Chris Johnson than I would. It's just I agree. Yeah, he's quicker. So I'm actually happy that I think there's a silver lining that at least he's playing because he wasn't the Packers like fuck it. We're throwing 55 times. You're right. We throw anyway. We're going to throw more. First, let's down. We're throw. We'll throw receiver screen. Who cares? Jake: But the the the side of that is if you know that they're throwing, then you your defense can. Sort of you know, perhaps and stop the run without like really scheming for it So what's the keys the castle to win? Oh fuck the key the castle is not getting burnt too too badly Justin: Bye. I mean the guy there are two guys that they have that can I can really- R.h. And that's Cobb and that's Jordy Nelson And the really scary part about it is that while Jared Boykin didn't even get targeted against Seattle because Jake: they were like, you're the sacrificial lamb who's going to go over and just stand next to Richard Sherman all game. Justin: Well, he gets to run those routes against Darren Walls or Antonio Allen. Which is a whole different ball game. Jake: I think people are calling for Allen to be put on Nelson. I'd much rather have a little bit more of an experienced corner play against Jordy Nelson. So where are you going to find that guy? That's Darren Walls. A little bit more of experience. Justin: Well he's actually a lot more experienced than Antonio Allen who's played exactly one NFL game at corner. Jake: So a little bit more experience is like one and a half games. Justin: Well he started five games for the Jets last year and he played in a lot of games. And Randall Cobb's a handful in the slot. I mean he only plays the slot so it's like Kyle Wilson, meet Randall Cobb. And please don't let him kill you down the field. Try not to get through pin-offs in a row. Try not to let him beat you 40 yards down the field. If you're gonna get beat Just get beat over the little middle crosses, whatever, and have prior there to knock the shit out of them or something. So I'm just really worried about back shoulder fades, because that's where experienced corners fare much better than inexperienced corners. Like I'm not worried about quick passes. I think we can tackle. I'm really worried about 20 yards down the field. All of a sudden, Rodgers chucks the ball and Nelson turns around and his back shoulder boom 20 yards. And then, I mean, I feel like they can do that all day long with these guys. Really worried about that play. And there was another play that they ran against Seattle a bunch of times with Cobb coming out of the slot on the same side as Nelson where he would hook behind Nelson.

1:18:05 Justin: So Nelson would run kind of like a slant and like kind of what would be Kyle Wilson The Seahawks didn't have it covered the Jets aren't gonna have it covered so ye of little faith you have little faith even with that said I've got us winning 2016 night quicky one touchdown for Jesus Christ So my key the castle very you have very very much faith in my defense my Jets D. F. Jake: Two keys to you know just one this is the first key is this is going to be in my estimation a A fight this is a 12 12 round fight Let's fucking kick their ass what you can't do in a 12 round fight is what can't blow your wad in round one You can't get knocked out And I thought you meant blow your wad if we get knocked out like 14-0. Like pick 6 on the first possession. 21-0, 21-3. We're not, we don't have the firepower to come back. No. Maybe we don't know. If we go up, if we get 3, let's say we get a field goal to start. Then they get a touchdown. Justin: You want the ball by the way? If we wouldn't toss, what do you want to do? Jake: Jets win the toss. What are we doing defense? Let's see. Oh, we're see what we're gonna do. Right? Yeah, we gotta defer We need a lot half we have to see what we're gonna do. I got what kind of games this gonna be Yeah, we will stand up or not. Yeah, so I'm saying we have the key this is and this is you know Magic of football if we have to be able to come back with them So as they score and as I feel like they're gonna score we feel come back So they score, we come back. It's bobbin to weaving, they hit us, we have to hit them back. It doesn't always have to be the same velocity, same whatever. They, might hit a we might get a field goal. They'll get a field goal. We need a touchdown. We got to keep it close because this is going to come down to maybe who has the ball last. , how do you think Gino is going to play first road game of the. You look like solid NFL quarterback with three mistakes. I'm looking for a one mistake, but it can't be a bad sack. It can't be a bad turnover. A turnover free game is what we're looking for. No, any game I'd want to turn over. But here's the second piece of my keys to the castle. We need to make it take advantage of the things that we're given when the Lord opens up the skies And he does something for you you cannot such as Throws a ball to your oh yeah pick it yeah We got to get a turnover Rex put some hot sauce on this matchup. You know what he do well in the in the draft

1:21:06 Justin: Yeah, the consensus Jake: Best safety in the draft was haha Clinton dicks who why are you laughing at him? That's a ha ha Haha was picked three picks after the Jets selected prior the first safety off the board and When asked. Rex did say they're both Justin: You know, we like them both. He knows actually congratulatory towards a hot Clint Dix, you know And without a doubt, you know, we without a doubt, you know, you know, we want the guy, you know Without a doubt could knock your head off Knock your face off or whatever the fucking says give me a rat kill Jake: Put a little hot sauce on it, but I like where the end. Okay. Sorry. I'm cutting into your time. Yeah, you are The Seahawks showed us how to run. Justin: I mean, they ran for how many yards they run for against against them last week. They must have run for like 180 yards. And we can do that. I think we can do that. Why can't we do that? We can do the time. Jake: We do that time possession thing, right? It's the we're yes, you're going to score and you might score quickly. Yeah, but then we're going to ball for 35 minutes. We're going to take 10 minutes and we're going to freaking score. And then we'll give it back to you. And all we need is one of those times that you don't score that we can kind of, or we can turn it over. I get an advantage. Justin: How did that numbers game thing work out? Jake: So anyway, that's my second thing. And this was our thing all last year. We never got the turnovers. We never got the fumbles never went our way. That was crazy. There's just nowhere in the world does the quarterback have an ability to look at that and see it. Justin: How did that numbers game, remember that number game that we were playing? Oh, Bill Parcells number. Completions plus rushing attempts. Yeah. So Gino had 23 completions. Yeah. Jake: And then the Jets had 23, 33, 34 rushing attempts. clips. So that's like, yeah, they had it. Yeah, that's nice. So I think this is going to be high scoring. I think the Jets, the only way to stay in it is going to be it's going to come down to the wire, it's going to come down to I think we might we might. Justin: TV show on the plane. Jake: We might need folk hero. You think so? Justin: In this game, 49 yarder at the end. Yeah. Jake: I'll take JETS WIN 31.30. Put it in books. That's how I feel. while on Monday podcast. We definitely want to win.

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