Hail Ceasar
December 1, 2017 · 52:38 · Panthers game recap, Fools of the Game, all week 13 picks, Throne Picks and Keys to the Castle for beating the Chiefs.
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00:19 Jake: Welcome to the Jet Kingdom Podcast. The longest running. New York Jets podcast ever We have not been benched I'm Jake and joining you Ye Joining me and ye For the holiday season Justin: What is wrong with you? Jake: Are we drinking it? Is Justin, Justin the I can't play Travis Kelsey this week, it, it's killing me Alright well, let's talk about the game that was shall we I guess yes Let me ask a serious question. What was the last regular season home game that you did not attend? It's been a while. Because you did not attend this I did not. I was sick. Regular season. Well, clearly no post season. No travel. It was travel. It was a couple years ago because we were out in San Francisco. beat the Jets. The Jets beat the Jets but Carolina technically beat the Jets 35 to 27 and that score is super deceiving because the Jets defense actually played a pretty good game and those 35 go up against them and that's kind of unfair because they didn't even give up 14 of them and I mean just unlucky nonsense and bad play but the defense if you ask me As we go through this game played great Cam Newton played like shit 11 of 28 he said he said very up-and-down games and I think I said he's got to have a bad game and he did
03:05 Jake: We should have a bad game. We should've won this game. If not for fucking just stupidity. There were about three- I think there were three plays in this game that can be pointed out that that were basically where we lost the game. Tell me those three. And we throw the ball three times. Which, fine. Whatever. One of them was a touchdown. We- we- I do not understand what the league has against Austin Sefarian Jenkins. I hate him. But they have something against him scoring touchdowns. You know the word kind of those two are kind of two losses like, not that we could have won, but like- those two were huge- It's actually three. There's the one, there's been three. There's been the Tampa Bay one. Patriots to Tampa Bay and this one. This was, I don't even get it. The Tampa Bay one, he like maybe pushed somebody. The Patriots was bullshit. This one was bullshit. This is hard. When you're at the stadium, it's very hard. Like they don't show a whole lot of stuff, right? When you're at the stadium, they don't necessarily want. See if they think it might go the wrong way right so they don't want the crowd to show exactly what the and they were showing it and Maybe it's cuz you're too far away from the big screens We're kind of close to one of them So I can't really turn around and look at that screen at the resolution on it's not great. I Could and then I re-watched it I swear I do not understand a. I don't understand a catch and I do not understand what the difference is between a touchdown catch and a regular catch and why they have to be different because I feel like if that was done on the twenty that's a catch she's in bounds right wouldn't even be challenged because it wouldn't they'd be like yeah that's a catch and because it's a touchdown which is something I've. I've sort of wanted, which is if there's any question, just call it where it's automatically replayed. Like if it's all touch, our replays. That's what I mean. If there's any question, like on that play, they could have called it incomplete and then Todd Bowles would have challenged it. Right. call the touchdown and then go look at the replay. Like if you think it's a fumble, call it a fumble. If you think that they're, you know, for these types of plays where they're automatically replayed, do the automatic replay call and then you can just get it right. But I feel like they've gotten it wrong. Like this is wrong. Like, how do you slow it down to a millionth of a second? Basically a frame. There's no room for like if the ball moves a little millimeter
06:01 Jake: It's allowed to move so does has to look that's where it is This is no hard and fast. I can't figure it out because it's humans and balls and whatever Please humans in their balls just figure it out. They have not figured it out figure out your balls already. This is just so dumb. So there's that play, right? So that so we settle for a field goal and go up 2018 fine. Then there's the stupid Macau fumble where Kinkley recovers it and goes into the twice this year. Fucking unreal. Two fumble six picks it picks sixes. That's a lot. And before that in the third quarter where Carolina went up I think they went up like 1817 and went for two and missed there was a fourth down and carolina was going for it because they were kind of in no man's land it was fourth and like three and jenkins jumps off sides and they didn't and didn't know he didn't like just chuck it down the field Like he didn't know, oh, I got a free play. Let me check like Aaron Rodgers style. I mean, like throw up a Hail Mary and all of a sudden it's a touchdown. He threw the play, the designed play, and he was off. He missed. They were off the field. But we're so stupid. We were offsides and give them five yards and then boom, they're down the field and, and it's a touchdown. Lastly, the, the, the punting was. Horrific. Our special teams on both sides, returns and coverage were so bad. Every kick that Lock Edwards kicked was such a line drive that there was no coverage. Like, it was not going to be fair caught and there was no one there. And this guy just breaks a freaking 60-yard touchdown on us to like really just hit the nail right in the... Right in the coffin. It's like fumble returned two minutes later K, king, a punt return touchdown and it's like fuck. There's the game We're now now we were winning and now we're losing by 12 So here's so actually we talked about this the other day and I said the thing that I keep seeing about this team, and again, I watched them, and I actually didn't rewatch this game, just because I've actually been not feeling well, so I've been in the gym, and Jim is really, I watched the replay. But I said, one of the things I'm seeing is while we can score, and the way we score is like, is this all these big plays, and it's usually Robbie Anderson, it's one of these big plays, but they're not. What? when we get the ball with five minutes or eight minutes or whatever it is, and we need to actually just take time off the clock. I bet if you did an analysis of every team, probably we'd be in the bottom five of like average length of drive. The four minute offense type of situation. I just feel like because of the lack of talent.
09:01 Jake: the lack of quarterback talent, the lack of running back talent, the lack of line, whatever. We can't, and I don't think the greatest gameplay there is, like the game plan doesn't seem to be very good, except for, you know, we can't drive. Except for you know what? Like you didn't finish that sentence. Oh, like I think a couple times the scripted, the first series, the first scripted series sometimes works great. But I find it's just a lot of punting. I wonder how many punts have we done versus anybody on the team. It's just not a lot of sustained drives. And so when you play a team like this, that is flashy, and if you like, what you end up doing, we had the ball for 28 minutes, they had it for 31.50. So that's a swing, it's a two minute swing. We can score points, but so fast that the defense is right back on the goddamn field and you can only stop Cam Newton and all that shit for a little bit. We stopped Cam Newton the whole fucking game. There Well, they did score because they scored three fucking points. The offense, their offense did nothing. I understand. Their offense did absolutely. They were totally. Easy to stop but that's the thing in the fourth quarter when you need to stop them for the 17th But we did they scored on a fumble recovery and a and a fucking pump return I know they didn't drive on us. I understand so you're saying when you need to stop them But then we didn't even get a 40 yard run. Okay, right, right And like, that's the thing is like because because it breaks down and the team. But they didn't score it up. But but again, we were winning in the fourth quarter. No, but we can't keep the ball long enough to keep winning. But we that wasn't the problem. That wasn't that. Well, when the ball is actually the problem is part of it. Fumble, fumble touchdown. I'm not saying for the justice game. Go back and look at our games. We don't. have and again, it's not I get it. We're at bad teams is why bad teams lose and good teams don't. That's the way it works. Teams can good teams can control the ball, mix up the plays, run enough and keep on the field if they have a lead. It's like called, you know, running out. We made one too many mistakes and we got some bad luck. How is yeah. Absolutely. Okay, fine. Bad luck there. Justin: I don't mind the on the Austin's fairy Jenkins should have had two Jake: touchdowns first game first and goal. I don't mind view and throw. Right. I don't mind it because honestly, our first in our one yard running plays this year, not very good. They would suck. So I actually thought good. You guys know we suck at this, right? But like little trickery, maybe like little trickertotious. You know, I would love to see the Statue of Liberty. That one that when Brady does the Statue of Liberty, oh, fuck Tom Brady. Anyway, so we lost pick your fool. Fucking who's your fool? Do you want to do like the impress deep pressed? No. Why not? I don't care. They all depressed. There's some guys who played well. It impressed the defense. The defense played pretty damn good. But I've seen Carolina suck it. So like, if they played better at home.
12:00 Jake: You watched them against Miami. We're also a home team. We played pretty good games at home and we just- We are home team. Well that's a bad team. Yeah, it's a bad team. You play well at home. Right, but can't take it on the road. Can't take it on the road. Young team. you Anyway, there were some guys who flashed on defense who played pretty well. He lost his screen, had a decent game. Yeah, he did. Darren Lee has kind of come into his own. He's playing kind of well, which is nice to see Marcus. Man, I thought I played really well. After rewatching the game, he was all over the field. And on the offensive side, I mean, Robby Anderson continues to just touch down. Just catch that. That was a hell of a play. Both of his touchdowns were awesome plays. The one where he was double teamed and he just went, who's that? Robbie Anderson went up and caught the ball on the double team? Really? He usually just drops those. Or doesn't even get near it, because he's so fucking thin. But he went up and got that one. And got his feet in. That was an awesome catch. So you re-watched it. Did you see it? Did you watch the whole thing? Or you watched the recap? Nah, I'm just condensed. So the announcer, because he got in the face of the camera after the game, or when he after made a touch, he's like. Yo, you know, whatever. Like, why am I not a lot of votes for for Pro Bowl? Vote for me for Bobo, right? In the in the camera. And the announcer went off and said, you shouldn't be worried about yourself. You should be worried about the team. He like spent at least a minute going off on Robbie Anderson. Spilman? I think it was Spilman. Yeah. I couldn't see him, but hear him. And I was like, wow, that was interesting. Anyway, he's. Play that was a hell of a play by town and Robbie Anderson to be on those two are on the same page Like hey, they hit it I mean he hits Robbie Anderson these passes at least once a game down the down the sideline Yep, so that was impressive. I saw I'll take that away and be like, okay, that was cool Well, I mean if you're looking at listen in we're out of the playoffs, I think not Yeah, we're pretty much out. There's a lot of teams ahead of us, but I heard the Browns weren't out. Like there was some like 47 things had to happen, but there was still a chance. Like every team sees so wonky. Anyway, if you want to be looking for the like, you know, what's why are we going down to Norwegians to go watch the Jets? Like there's more. It's normal. No, no., it won't be sober. You know, there are now you okay the team like what are the pieces that I'm excited about am I excited about my k Like his play is good and I I think will only get better. But his fucking attitude, man. Do you see what he did to Cam, Cam? Saw it like cuz the real life. No live ways cam starting to do is like saying it max the bottom saying no He doesn't know we didn't have the ball He just kind of like kind of like just pulled his arm back like to stop him from doing it He didn't even know what to do cuz you're not supposed to go up to another guy and like do anything Right, excuse me Michael Crabtree and get you changed match Idiot well it's to leave really
15:01 Jake: Crabtree, but crabtree react don't I think in the heat of the moment no these guys were uber competitive let the other guy do something He already did Yeah, but you don't get kicked out for snatching James Well, that's why he did something about it. He's like you're fucking that's my chain I'm inclined to pick lock Edwards because I feel like while his numbers look fine, right? Seven puns average. Seven puns. Well, they punted six times. Whatever. He had a long of 62 inside the 20. His average was fine. They were just line drives. They were two. I'm often returned right like I'd rather him instead of punting it 45 just punted 40 with no return no chance of a return and I don't know that I mean that that punt return really killed the game and I hate to throw this on the punter, but sorry, dude Yeah, the special teams in general is just crap But we have we have our guy running backwards our guys running backwards returning puns back. He's literally losing ten yards at a time Yeah, special teams is terrible. It's not good and it hasn't been good a young Young team like we could have and all these just young talent around there'd be some young guys who like stand up but Alan being the operative for Yeah, I guess like who's your fool? I'll give it to the count again I know like this is the thing I hate about looking at these stats I know stats look awesome. It doesn't show what actually happened. He was really ineffective and And what he doesn't what doesn't show is it'll show his sacks. Yeah, three for minus 25 Yeah, I'm got sack three for minus Oh, and I actually think the other hidden stories were the second most penalized team in the NFL. That's a big story That's not hidden. That's like a thing. That's that's we're always offsides. We're always holding we're always moving We're doing something like young and stupid isn't good. You could be young and you can be stupid, but you can't be young and stupid Yeah, the penalties are and I think I imagine they just like I said Edwards fucking balls Up until this point, up till this year, he's had one of the best records of penalties. I think that's just a I bet if you broke it down and broke out like where they come from, majority is offensive line nonsense because our offensive line is just a penalty waiting to happen. Anytime there's a run for like anything over 10 yards, you guarantee there's a hole coming back. It's coming back. It's coming back. You know, it's coming back. Yep. It's like, Ooh, but my power just broke one.
18:03 Jake: We don't have a lot of time here so we gotta make sure we get through it. I don't think we've had any injuries. But we do want to talk about... We don't recall any injuries. The Eli A. Fent in the room. So let's do that. Kingdom, you do this. Why don't we... I'm not gonna do this. You're not gonna go around? Let's just do this. Oh, fuck, I love that song. I don't mean it with you have time, we've got no time. All right, let's talk about Eli, because it's tangentially related to... The Jets because it's in New York and the guy who's taking over is Gino. And we know what that looks like. And generally, most jet fans are some way connected to the Giants, either their family members are connected to the Giants for they are a giant fan or they're both or they hate the Giants. Like in some ways where the we said we're the little stupid brother to the Giants. We always have been. But they're making us look not so stupid right now They have right they have really made while our team is losing as well, and they're gonna have a higher pick Maybe whatever well four games to go maybe hey, maybe They make make Mac look good Macadoo I I've been on Twitter. I've been on the tweeter I have never, never see, I for not for a long time have I seen something so galactically stupid. Just and disrespectful. That's what I just keep thinking is the word so that's the exact perfect, perfect word that that is not being reversed. Like it's almost And I keep waiting for someone to be like, yeah, just kidding. Yeah, JK, April Fools in November, or December, or whenever. First of all, you and I, I think, back since Macadont has been on that team, and we have our buddy who's a Giants fan. I've never thought, since the beginning. He's a buffoon. We've talked about this with him, and he doesn't like it. I'd love to have a conversation with him because I've recorded or haven't recorded him but mentally I have he thinks he's like an offensive genius No, but there are like Giants fan was for one season there was like, oh, yeah, he's great. He's gonna be great Well, yeah when he was hired as the offensive coordinator. He's like this guy's awesome He's our next head coach can't wait till coffee ones gone Right bet you can't wait if but you wish coffee would cut off your left nut to get your coffee and back So yeah, this the the idea to take a guy who has showed up for 14 years, has played every game, who has won you two Super Bowls, and again, we had the conversation Eli versus blah, blah, blah. It was really just a quarterback class, right? Eli, Big Ben, Phil Rivers, all drafted in the first top 12 or something back here. Who is one of the most classy guys, who is a team first guy, who has been through, like they have- And to do it in New York, which is special. And this is a Jetspied- . Podcast so we can say that and we are a little biased but to do what he's done in New York is one of the reasons I'm calling it out right now It's one of the reasons that a quarterbacks don't come to New York when there's in the free market cuz it's hard cuz money is money
21:01 Jake: Right a million dollars here is a million dollars here, although in 40 don't pay income tax, but whatever Yeah, but you know what in New York you I gets deals that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise. That's true and whatever but This is a tough media town. Very hard. And we have some of the biggest asshole reporters. That's going to humanish and we're going to you fucking, uh, Simmy and we have talk radio, you know, we got, we got Francesca out there. We've got some terrible and us and we got, we got the JK podcast. We will talk about you and talk about Rubins, dunk butter on your face, butter, face, duck, butter. So I totally get it. I just don't. I don't understand this from any standpoint. I don't get it from a gaming sim. I don't get it from a winning. Even if you said we're gonna start web, who's I guess their guy they've drafted whatever a year or two ago or whenever. But starting Geno Smith is the equivalent of giving up. And to do that and to throw someone's And I know the record's not supposed to be a big deal, but it is actually a big deal to throw his record away, to disrespect him as the face of that franchise. And when it's not him, yes, he's not performing well, but they're not giving him the weapons. He lost his number one and two guys. His offense is why it's terrible. Their talent. on offense is on par with the Jets talent on offense. I dare say we have more. Maybe more playmakers. I think we have a better running back situation. Believe it or not, I think our line is better. Zero line is a sieve. And I believe our receivers are better with them what they have at this very moment. Clearly not. When Beckham is healthy and when Shepard is healthy and when Brandon Marshall was supposed to be a player, but he's not, we know he sucks, but they had like, all those guys would be the Jets best receiver, but he's playing with like practice squad dude. And he's showing up and playing. And I just don't get it. So I mean, shame on you giants. And I- I don't know how this gets up to the owner. And the owner doesn't just- He did it! He's a sight, but he said yes! Well, apparently- He's so fucking hands off. Apparently what they wanted to do was see what they had in the guy who they drafted. Right. Web. Web. Right? Well, I was just talking about what you were writing because he didn't hear me. Yeah. So they- What? Did you mention how they like asked Eli? No, I didn't mention that. So they went to Eli and they said, hey, we want to see what we have in web. We want you to start games, but we want him to finish them. And Eli said, listen, if I'm starting a game, I'm finishing the goddamn game and I'm trying to win the damn game. Right. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to just sit here and keep a streak alive for the hell of it. And I'm not some puppet that you're going to like start and then pull me after like the first quarter to see what you have in this guy web. Forget that. And they were like, OK, Gina will be that guy.
24:02 Jake: Right. Gina don't care. He just wants to get on tape. He just wants to show he can still play a little bit. Right. They know Geno is not the future in New York, but they want to see if the guy who they drafted in the third round. That makes no sense to like start, you know, and then put in web. He's never dressed so they don't want to just start. And then the whole thing is stupid. They're ridiculous. It's it's it's up there for those who want to play the if though games. throwing in the guy last year, and you were the one asking for it, let's just throw Hackenberg back there. I wanted to see him start a game. But die, just die. He would have died. He would have died. I still wish we'd seen him, but maybe not then. Anyway, terrible decision. Giants, you're making the Jets look good. Thank you. It's terrible. Thank you. It's hard to make the Jets look good, by the way. And thank you for doing it. Yeah, the Browns were doing it very well. Yeah, they're not in the same town. The back pages were very negative on the Giants and have left us alone a little bit. But Eli, good job on you. Oh, very classy. Eli is as classy as it gets. He's like, listen, I'm not starting. I'm not on that team. Not on the Giants, no fucking way. I think you put him into that. I know it's like, couldn't he crazy to think he'd go play for the Jets, but I've seen crazier things happen. I think he's gonna go play for Jackson I think that's eight because they need a quarterback. Yeah, they're they're really they're really they're ready. They're ready to win That's a good team. They're winning with Blake portals. I know it's That's true. He's really bad Right, but what a life really good crossover just go from go from net life to net life No, I get it the logistics of it of him playing for the Jets for a couple years is would be probably very easy for your Slack channel the other day. Yeah. Here's a scenario. Could you see we go out? We because there's kind of two scenarios for next year. It's like draft a guy and like wait around and see what you got or go on, get somebody. But maybe there's a double scenario. We have we're going to have over $101 million to spend. How about grab somebody who's a starter, but a real starter who could actually win? could go and win the Super Bowl. Like that's the thing about looking at it, I know this is the same argument I've had. Like looking at Fitzpatrick or McCown, there was no chance in world that they were gonna go anywhere. Like, cause Fitzpatrick wasn't gonna go into the playoffs because he can't do it. So, but if you threw a Alex Smith. a Kirk Cousins, a Eli Manning, a whatever on our team. And he go, wow, you're actually now a couple of weapons away from actually making, get a good fast young defense. Draft to left tackle. Draft to left tackle and you're in there and then throw a guy behind him, right? Throw a quarterback to be behind him. Yeah, it's not Petty, it's not Hagenberg. Sorry, I just don't believe either of them can play. I don't know. I know petty can't because I've seen it and I really think Hackemerg's worse. So it's possible I believe he didn't start again. I believe he's I would actually like to see him start a real
27:03 Justin: I would hope like it's the last two I'd hope the last two games of the season at least Jake: Chargers in the Patriots gives a shit. Oh my god, whoever Well guess what you have to play them twice a year so fucking get used to it like go ahead kid Yeah, like you got to do this. I mean you can or you can't I mean this whole like oh We're playing to maybe make the playoffs thing is over now. It's over. It's not mathematically great. So lose this week I don't think we're gonna lose this week. I think that's exactly what's gonna happen But counts gonna win this weekend. It's gonna be like oh we're kind of maybe no, all right. Let's get let's go around the kingdom I'm just gonna pick out so Thanksgiving games Only thing I think we learned... He's a shit games. Some really bad games. I mean Redskins, Giants, letting the Redskins win. I mean, kind of reversed what happened last night, but... Very shit. Cowboys are looking terrible. Chargers are looking like, actually like they might be in a position to make and do well in the playoffs, which is not a Chargers thing. Viking speed over lions, let's go to other surprising games, I guess we could talk about this. Bills over Chiefs, Chiefs on what, a five game losing streak? Justin: Insane, I don't understand it. Jake: Do you think Andy Reid's on the hot seat? Justin: I have some tough questions, I'm just kidding, Jake: think about it. Is Andy Reid on the hot seat? I think Andy Reid's gonna be pressured. If they lose this game to the Jets he's gonna be pressured to bench Alex. Yes Cuz they got a rookie there and a rookie that they and that means that they love and everybody's like they love and they traded way up to get when they really didn't need and Like I think they picked him what like right after Watson like 13 14 something like that. So I think he's going to be pressured to doing that. I don't think he'll be pressured into. I don't think he's going to get fired. Now, let's say you're fired, but I think it's like I say it's the unless he like loses out, if he loses out, they might be like, all right, you're looking like they were going to go right after they beat the Patriots to start the season. Five and oh, and now they're six and five. That's not good. Jesus. All right. I'm just looking at other games here that could be interesting. Rams keep on winning, beat up on the Saints. Eagles good on both sides of the ball. They're a tough out for anybody. They could be going far. We still think they're going to win the Super Bowl. I'm now convinced that they are the best team in the NFC and the NFC is really good. They have a tough matchup this week. We'll see how they do. Patriots beat up on Dolphins, of course. Whatever. And. and a Texans Ravens game on Monday night was doing a watch, but I will say, Pac, and I called this a couple of my spreads, Pac kept it in there with the Steelers. They really did. Brett Hunley played really well. That's his first game playing well, so there you go. I haven't watched him very much, but. He looked adequate. All right, let's get on to, let's go to the. I have a little picks. Yeah, I've already made my picks. Me too. But I. So I lost last night. I picked Washington to. go into Dallas and win, but who knew that a left tackle was so important?
30:02 Jake: Dallas's offense looked like a pile of poo and then the best left tackle in football who missed three weeks comes back and they put up 38 points. Look at that. Tyron Smith MVP for Dallas. Yeah. I mean, Dak was lost and all of a sudden they have a running game again without Elliott It doesn't even matter like left tackles back the offensive lines intact and they ran over Washington All right. So let's move on how many four o'clock? Do we have one two three four we have four four o'clock games? Like four o'clock game for four o'clock, which is good. We have a Jets home game, which is good You last week there, but don't know. Oh, well, let's just pull that up here Let me see. Let's look at the last week. I had 10. I had a seven burger Yeah, I had 10 burger and you're still oh, I have my ballyh points. Yeah, let's do this I'm only five points behind Gareth who leads I'd be five. We didn't do the we didn't do the fancy We don't talk about that because we don't care about it Well, you don't care about it we have to we have to at least see what's going on in the standings I mean, where are we with respect to the playoffs here in in the is it one more week? Only four teams make the playoffs in this thing. Yeah, and the playoffs are week 1415 1617 double. Yeah, it's so this is the last week of regular season. So let's look at this. I'm 8 and 4 Jack is eight and four. Let's see standing Ryan is seven and five Six six six that's our division. I don't think you have a chance at the playoffs my friend. I don't think I can Yeah, I think you will have to win and I think I'll have to lay away at all three leagues six and six six That's funny. I just beat Gareth so fuck off Gareth and Way we go. Yeah, I'm in though. I'm in the loser bracket right now. It's you against It's you against Ryan I'll take him on and I hate Arnold and physically I'll physically abuse him so funny You're such a hypocrite so funny. I have it on tape twice. All right, let's get this week going Um, one o'clock Atlanta is hosting Minnesota. Did we mentioned that I picked out last night and I got the one up on you again. Uh, yeah, we did. All right, cool. Atlanta is hosting Minnesota. Atlanta is favored by two and a half big game. Like Minnesota, they're good They're good in Atlanta though. Yeah, who cares? I don't know I feel like don't go on a plane a dome like who cares now I feel like the land is gonna pull this one out, so I'm gonna pick a land at home, okay All right Chicago Five Chicago's hosting San Francisco Chicago favored by three do we know if this is Jimmy? Yes, Jimmy got into the last game. He is starting this week, I think.
33:01 Jake: Mmm, that might change this. I picked Chicago, giving three, thinking that it might be not Jimmy, but if it's gonna be Jimmy, I think I'm gonna change it. Are you telling me it's Jimmy? I'm pretty sure it's Jimmy. Who are you picking? I'm picking Chicago. I just don't feel like Jimmy's gonna come. I'm switching. Blow it out on the... Blow it out in the door. I'm switching to San Francisco. All right. I'm taking the three. Give me Jimmy. All right. You give me no Jimmy. Green Bay's hosting six and I don't care. Green Bay's hosting Tampa and there's no line. I assume this is a Jamis Winston situation. Yep. I think he's gonna start though. Well it's off. I'm gonna take Tampa. I'm taking Green Bay in Green Bay. I don't like the four four idioms coming to the deep dark. Tundra and I think you know Green Bay's gonna gonna play a bit better. So give me green bay. That's funny. All right Tennessee is hosting Houston big game for Tennessee Who's writing the thick of things? I like Houston seven and a half. It's that half. I don't like that half So I'm gonna pick you listen divisional I don't think Tennessee's been blowing anybody away. So I'm going to take you just to keep it close. Okay. So, um, okay, great. Jacksonville is hosting Indy and the line is 10 and a half. When was the last time Jacksonville was favored by 10 and a half over anybody? Probably never I'm gonna pick Indy just cuz of that. I actually feel like Indy is it I think Jacksonville this is the game that they're gonna just blow something out the door They have a really good defense. So I'm gonna give it I said pull it out the door a lot. I don't think Jacksonville, okay Then we have our last one o'clock game. We have Baltimore hosting Detroit Baltimore favored by two and a half. I think Baltimore stinky I'm gonna take Detroit. I'll take Baltimore at home. Wow, I'm all off you. All right, it's gone. All right, let's move on. Wow, that's a good four o'clock. Let's move on to four o'clock. So this one's at 4.05, which means it's totally regional. Doo doo garbage. Oh, regional. So we have the Chargers hosting Cleveland. They're favored by 15. The Chargers are on fire, by the way. I just don't like 15s too much I'm taking them They're on fire too much. They are on fire, but I don't get it every fire has its thorn Wait, no, what I'm gonna take Cleveland. I know I just said it I've taken 15 points when does when does you Jackson get fired? Never like why is he not fired? They just waiting to fire him at the end of the year Does he get to go two seasons and like not win games? Is that how this works? I guess so Josh Gordon playing in this game. Yes Say why wouldn't we start him of course big plans for him? Yeah good decoy all right so Oakland is Hosting the Giants being led by Geno Smith I Guess eight and a half Oakland they're gonna crush the Giants
36:03 Jake: All right are gonna come out and their Cooper concussion protocol crabtree Don't not playing don't I'm gonna I'm gonna say Oakland's defense scores at least one touchdown in this game Yeah, but you know who's actually pretty good. It's a giant defense is pretty good. Yeah I don't know if they're gonna play so hard I gotta be I think this whole team would just fly down because we wanted the offensive linemen It's just a lie down. I think I come right. I think this may backfire on Macadou cuz Mean you're you're benching an icon. Yeah a Franchise a face of a franchise imagine if like don't say it cuz it would never happen. Okay. Well it would cuz Fine I was gonna I know it stupid Don't even say I mean well your breath well Pittsburgh bench Big Ben Big Ben said in the news conference He's like I could see them doing that to me someday someday, but not now Well, they're in the thick of it. Well, I guess that's because they actually have fucking talent. Yes. All right. New Orleans hosting Carolina. I just saw Carolina. Their offense sucks. New Orleans has a good defense. New Orleans favored by four. I want New Orleans to win a lot this week so then we can go in there next week. Is it next week? No, it's two weeks. Two weeks. Where will we play next week? I don't know. We'll find out next week. This week on Find Out What We Play Next Week. I think we might play the Chargers or something. Somewhere in there. Anyway. Alright. Last game. Last game of the day. We have the LA Rams. About the day? Oh, because of the night game. Correct. We have the Rams at Arizona. The Rams giving seven and a half. And I like it. I like the Rams. Bet you do you're starting cough. Well, I'll pick the Rams but there's almost terrible. Yeah, they're pretty bad and Rams are pretty good Yeah, they are McVay. How about that? Young offensive mind? 31 year old coach. He's also getting the swing You have to see this is a this is a thing like that one one year to the next You have to keep doing it because these guys I've seen happen with the Jets You go get the young, brilliant guy and they do well the next year and then they start tanking. You have to keep it up in order to get the prize. So, go ahead. Nighttime. Justin: You're good. Jake: Yeah. Just the one year wonders is like not interested me. I'm also the greatest first year. Oh my god, you're so good. Completely different makeup of the team. Came off a terrible team, had a lot of money, goes out, wins a lot of games. Bad schedule. Mike, we'll see. Like... Completely different makeup. We'll see if this team which is really more and hit he molds. He's getting to mold this team We'll see how good of a job he does with took over of good defense. That's right star players We'll see how he does round picks. Yeah, Philadelphia on Sunday night is going to Seattle This is the best game of the week. Yeah, I'm like, I wanna watch a night and oh, just get flexed
39:01 Jake: I don't know but if it didn't Good job at the beginning of the season if it did good job flexing it But Seattle's at home and They're five and a half point underdog at home at night That doesn't sit right with me. I know Philly's the best But that stadiums hard by like more than three points and so I'm gonna speak Seattle when says like the real deal I know he is I believe he is to this to me show because even the real deals can go into Seattle and get their ass Blowing yeah, yeah, how do you blow an ass? You blow into an ass you have the impossible burger The rusty trombone. That's the thing Alright, next up. Let's go. We got who are you picking? Oh, I'll take Seattle to things to five and a half too much Right, although they're not a good team. I get it. They're very injured, but still home 12th, man, Sunday night. All right Monday night also a good game Pittsburgh at Cincy division rivalry game Pittsburgh on the road favored by five and a half. I like him. Give me pity pity pity. Okay, that's the week Let's get to the to throw them picks. So let's do the AFC East. We have to start New England at Buffalo and New England is the 10 point favorite here. So what do we think? New England's just like gonna roll, right? They're just gonna roll through the rest of the season. Probably not until 17th week. Because of the Western starters. They don't really do that. Well, they start Brady they'll start in but then they won't play in the whole game and Brian Hoyer like finish it up and we'll be This Does I doubt Gronk will play? That's right though Like ronk they need to put? Put in bubble wrap the rest of the season definitely I think they don't use him on purpose. It's like weird This is like let's just wait. Wait bubble wrap him. Let's use cooks right so Yeah, New England's really good. Uh, news flash? 17th straight season with a winning record. That's like, makes me want to puke. Our little buddy was tough. A elite franchise or whatever. They're not. They're not. Historically, they've put together one of the greatest streaks ever in the history of football. You don't say like, they're not. Justin: Well, here's the Jake: As soon as Bello check your old league. Well, it's a 50 something year old league Yeah, and as soon as a quarter of it, they dominated as soon as Bello check leaves They'll go back to being the joke that they were they were a legit joke. So what? There's well the Steelers have never been a joke Green Bay have never been a joke. Yes, they're always competitive. They've always had bad seasons They've always have you can sprinkle a bad season in here and a bad season in there But New England was essentially the Jets Before Bello check and Brady showed up great cuz word joke, but they're one of the greatest franchises there is now currently Not historically, but you got over the entire. Nope. They're not one is over an entire. Yes
42:04 Jake: I just gave you two. No, I I'll find you a four week a four year Stint that the Green Bay Packers were terrible. I'm find a decade though Sure, no, that they're on that they got 500 for the decade. Now it won't happen. I think you're wrong. There's there's a handful of franchises in the NFL that are like the gold standard. Pittsburgh is one of them. Green Bay is one of them. Dallas is one of them. But what do you call them? Justin: What's a gold standard? Jake: They win Super Bowls all the time. So they they're in there. They don't. Because they didn't win one forever it doesn't matter then yeah, yeah Yeah, they're a they're a dina yeah, but they're not one of the elite for over the course of the entire And I don't know there's a big big there really is They have to pull errors of let's put it that way all the other tears that I'm mentioning multiple errors Okay, if that's how you want to that's how I win it again. I then Fine multiple, but I would say that this is actually multiple errors. It's a dynasty, but this is actually multiple errors They're not the Yankees for example, right not the Yankees The Yankees are like the gold standard in baseball, right? It's outspend everybody away three times. They could they might be that bet that good perhaps Perhaps not I think I think it's Belichick personally. I know Brady's great, but I think it's all on bill No leaves it's over if Brady left and Bill stayed for five more years. They'd still win a Super Bowl fine. Whatever doesn't matter Yeah, moving on argument. Let's go have 10 minutes doing on a buffalo. They're gonna fucking dominate them 36 to I don't know 13. I think they'll keep it within the spread which is 10 so 31 22 New England. Okay in Buffalo. I don't know Denver at Miami Denver is a piece of shit team They are take a talk about like fall off from a being a and they totally missed on Paxton Lynch boy Because they try hurt right? They tried it He got through a half of football before he like ruined his ankle or foot He basically threw for 40 yards in the half. So he's not any better different than Brock the cock or semen So they got the cock, the semen. It's funny because I think we made a joke at one point. They're like, they got rid of the cock and then they had the semen. Why couldn't they have the cock and the semen on the same team? And they actually do. They do. It's good. So they're just bad, Denver. And Tlaib is out for a game. and their quarterback situation is just miserable. I feel like Miami wins this game, and I think it'll be like one of these terrible, terrible close games. Miami wins 13-10. I think Miami's gonna win. So what is it, we got, is it Matt Moore still? I don't care. Okay, it doesn't really matter. They're the same. They're terrible. Well, they're the same. I'm color and more like basically the same. Really is color really better than him. Color had some, well he's. It color five years ago was better than that more now Yeah, okay, but now they're about the same, but they're right in age
45:01 Jake: Yeah, but aren't they about the same quarterback right now? Yeah, if you had to face one actually the test if the Jets were playing color we were winning We were winning against Cutler right you'd rather face cut I rather he's a fan. That's right. He's worse, right? That's my point. Same your point was either the same. Yeah Your point was the same. They're not the same Cut was worse. Cut was worse? Yeah. Right. So, well, they're not that bad. There's that. You can't do both. You're so hard. You have to think about it. Come on. Take a sip of water. Take a sip of water, because you can't say they're both the same and they're worse. No. They're essentially the same. They're both bad. They're both terrible. I'd face either tomorrow on any team. One of them beat us and one of them we beat. So anyway. Uh, 1813. Dolphins great. Let's get to the jack game. We want though. We want Denver to win right cuz the records cuz the records fine I'll root for this. That's who we see next week Denver. Yeah at Denver Great work. Let's lose that one. That's an easy loss Jesus, I hope they know should have went to that one. Why don't we go to that one? No D D D D D D D D D I don't know. I mean, we could do this for every year. You could see that guy. I mean, this looks like a fucking he looks like it now. I can recall like the last two times we played the Chiefs. They out trick us. They just trick us to death on on off when we're on defense and when they're on offense. They have a lot of moving parts, a lot of shifts, a lot of movement, a lot of motion. they have They have a play in their playbook that they run consistently every game where it's a shovel pass to Kelsey, which is off of a fake jet sweep to what's that guy number 10, the really hill. Hill Hill who to his fastest all fuck all. So like they run these like fake jet sweeps and all. That Turns into a real jet that turns into a shovel pass and then they run the real jet sweep where he just like sort of hot potatoes it
48:01 Jake: to Hill Hill is really fast. I don't think we're gonna have a problem with hunt He's like a big lumbering dude, and we generally stop that pretty well we haven't stopped well as tight ends yeah, Kelsey's gonna be a problem and Hill's gonna be a problem because he's gonna beat someone deep That's a guarantee. Yeah, whoever's covering him, please just let him catch the shit in front of you. Right. Don't let him run past you and maybe Maybe just maybe we'll see dorell reavis on the field. Oh, I definitely read cdr. Oh, he didn't play last week Did he? No, but he's been talking about playing all week. Can't wait. Can't wait to see dorell reavis I'm excited to see dorell reavis booze or cheers cheers for me Cheers a hundred percent one of the greatest now one of the greatest jets to ever play I know but but the way it went down at the end like it's fine. Why wasn't he wasn't good? Well, we'll get to see he wasn't good last year. We saw it. He's gonna so here's a prediction bull prediction He's gonna have a play. I hope he does and i'm gonna cheer it I hope he has the game-winning interception. Really? Yeah, and i'm gonna cheer that out loud Cause at this point I'm in the let's just lose mode. Uh, I'm going to root for us to win the whole game, but if we lose, I won't be unhappy. It's fine. Bringing a cheese fan. Cause apparently you can find them. They actually, they exist outside of the Midwest. I don't give a shit about him. So whatever. I'm going to have us losing. I don. I think it's going to be a high scoring affair. I'm never losing 2117. Of course, I'm not gonna pick us to lose because I don't I think you know This team is on a roll of bad a bad Can I mention one thing? Sorry quickly? What I would love to see is a one-on-one matchup Reavis Robbie Anderson and I'd like to see him burn them burn the fuck out of him down the fall I'd love to see that first and then I'll see the pic afterwards I think we have every chance to win this team if this is KC from week five of the fucked and we looked at this get totally fucked Casey from week five they're not at home they don't play as well on the road I don't know I feel like we have every chance to win to me it's about just how the fuck can we keep a keep it honest good offense going I will make the prediction again It's time of possession. Our defense, I think will stop them occasionally, enough to keep it close, but our offense has got to not pump the ball every fucking time. We have, if we have, let's say 10 possessions, we have to score in five of them. Whether they're field goal or not, you have to score. on your possessions. You can't just go get the ball at the 20, go to the 28, three and 15, and then punt. Like, because A, our punter, you know, overkicks his distance, route, whatever. Like, that's just not gonna be our- Just line drives. Yeah, line drives. Then the guys can grab it. We can't give up. They're gonna start at the 48, and then they're gonna go 20 yards, and they're gonna give you a goal. So, like, it's gotta be consistent. I'd love to see a little bit of change in the game plan.
51:01 Jake: I know everybody's hot and- I'm not bothered about this offensive coordinator. I have not seen anything that I've really loved. I haven't seen anything that's really made this, you know, it's supposed to be so effective and efficient, but the team can't stay on the fucking field. So it's not that efficient. It's three-eason out, three-eason out, three-eason out. Put together a fucking drive. Need talent, need more talent. I think, yeah. Just need more talent. It comes down to that. Great. At the end of the day, you got a 38 year old journeyman quarterback with guys who are, these receivers. are barely starters. The offensive line is trash and your running backs are old. So that's it. I think it's just mistakes this time. If we can just not make mistakes, if we can drive the ball and keep this a low scoring game, we're going to halftime. Maybe it's 13, you know, 13, 14 or something. Like it's gonna be one of those games. We just can't let the fourth quarter. Here's the deal. Win the fourth quarter. Just win the fourth quarter. We get fucked every time in the fourth quarter. So win the fourth quarter. We can win the game. Jets win. 2417. Fuck yeah. See you next week. No matter what. Jake and Justin saying, let's go Jax. Z-ray, z-ray, z, z-ray, z-ray, z-ray!