Breaking Camp
September 3, 2010 · 31:20 · Preseason game reviews and wrap up, Hard Knocks rocks, player surprises and our thoughts on Revis.
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00:03 Jake: This is episode 79 of the Jet Kingdom Podcast for Friday, September 3rd, 2010, Breaking Keep. Welcome to the Jet Kingdom Podcast. As always, on this side of the table, it's Jake and joining me today is a special guest on the 79th episode. Joining me across the, since joining across the table, not on the other side of Digital Isle. It's Justin! Justin, how you doing, buddy? The table, we couldn't say, it's digital? There's a digital recording of the table. Yeah. But it's our second ever episode where we're in the same room together. We... At a 79. Out of 79. Yeah. Two out of 79. Quick, percentage. Go! It's a lot. Is that like 4%? It's Sanchez's Interception for Essence. I don't know. Not good. So, alright, so we got some stuff to talk about today. No, not really. First, we got some stuff to talk about today. First of all, I want to say next week will be our picks week. So, if you're looking forward to the picks, that ain't happening now. That's going to happen next week. Big. Pod next week. Yeah, and we're going to try to get a special guest. I got to ping him today, so I will ping him and see if he can join us next week for the week. You know what is also cool? What? We are right on pace to get to that Super Bowl episode number 100. That is true. Good stuff. So we're going to talk about hard knocks. We'll talk about cuts and people, because we all caught up on hard knocks. We're going to do one more episode. We'll talk about preseason games, injuries, the unmentionable. person who's not in the house. We're not under lockdown. We can talk about it. Oh yeah, we'll talk about Revas. And that's it. So let's get going. You obviously have been watching PartNox. I've been watching PartNox. It still cracked. I watched two episodes. I was on vacation last week. That's why there was none last week. And I was... So I had two, and I watched both episodes and then watched the preseason game last night. And it was... That is crack. That is crack. It was so good. It was so good. Partinosis is amazing. I find I'm really watching the players much differently than I did. Like, I now know better players, I know more players, and I spent the entire game last game, last night, watching Colston. I literally just... other than when it wasn't on the field. I was just watching him the whole time. So what do you think? Any things on Hard Knocks that you impressed? Do you still love it? I do. I still don't know why the Jets can't figure out a way to do a very low-key,
03:00 Jake: even if it was half of what that show is, do this every year. Every year. But don't they do something very similar to why? No, no. They could do it. They could, I mean. They could, I'm saying. They definitely could. Cut it back. They could definitely figure out how to do this on some local network, SMY or something. I just want to say that I usually drink during this podcast and drinking coffee during the podcast. It's not the same. So, let me crack a beer right now. Yeah, I think they got it. That's the Guinness glass behind you. That's true. You know what? I really enjoy the cursing. In the podcast? No, not in the podcast. Well, yes, in the podcast. But I love Mike Westhoff. Oh yeah. He's become a better character. He is so funny and the way he talks to these guys is just hysterical. Yeah, it is. and if you There'd be no Mike Westhoff if it was like, as I'm wanting, because every third word is a curse. That's true, but they could bleep it out. I just think if they could figure out a way... ...they could just figure it out. Even if it's not the week of, like, so, I know the thing about Hard Knocks is it's very, you know, quick, and they... ...they film up to Monday, and then they... But even if you did one hour segment, but two weeks delayed, so you just do it. And if you just did half the video and just like did some of the conference room stuff or some of the in the dorm stuff, you wouldn't have to do it. You could probably cut the budget by half. I just think as a fan, it's amazing like you just get so close to it. So I really like it. So one of the big things in the last episode was the Clemens Cole's thing. And that was a great shot with it coming down. to walk in together. For different reasons. So what do you think? Since it's not really about the show, it's about the Jets. What do you think about them keeping Clemens and cutting coals? Watching the whole Clemens scenario play out was also fun. You don't get to see that level of detail of watching a player, talking with the general manager about their salary. and so blunt like, well if you don't take this deal, we're going to cut you. Like it's so like, can you imagine walking into your boss's office and being like, you're gonna cut your salary and if you say no, we're gonna fire you right now. Right. Like, wow. Well he asked when. And then I, you know, what was interesting is I thought those conversations more happened with the agents. Me too. I didn't think that they literally set the guy down. in his flip flops. Well, I mean, you did say, well, I have to call whatever his name was and that was presumably his agent and his wife, obviously, he wanted to talk to her about it. But, so raw, so interesting. But he's guaranteed for the year, so no matter what happens to him. Guaranteed with a minimum contract. Right, but guaranteed for the money of the minimum contract. My understanding is he gets paid minimum wage or minimum, whatever, it's like $600,000 a year.
06:01 Jake: He's getting an amount of money. But it's guaranteed for the so if he comes week two and breaks his leg he gets that full deal So he basically is guaranteed money, right? So it's 600,000 I think times games. No Things are saying I think of six hundred eight thousand dollars. Uh Are you insane? That's like ten million dollars. No Maybe six hundred thousand dollars for the season. Yeah, I think that's more like it Good deal. I want to do that. Okay six hundred thousand dollars a season Something along those lines six or eight whatever it was it's it's not chump change It's like minimum you feel bad for the guy, but it's it's money he's a second round draft back and be holding a clipboard and He'll be holding when when the guy holds the clipboard sick of holding a clipboard. He's gonna hold the clip. Yeah But we're now sick of all the coach he goes dude I'm not convinced that for now should really be the number well Let's jump to that because that's actually I thought last night was the game that showed me that Brunel is the number two and why. He actually played pretty well. Well, he finally got a shot to actually run the offense as opposed to, well, against, in fair circumstances. I felt like in all the previous preseason games, Mark Brunel got shoved out there with third string offensive linemen that were trying to make the team and won't make the team. Right. And in some... Certain you know aspects he was playing against the number ones from the other side right on the defense and that's not fair You know to have Albert Haynes with out there against Joe Schmohe the left guard. I mean he also looked rusty I mean he didn't look right he is old to me It was like he's the poor man's far like he's older than Schottenheimer Yeah, but he looked like he looks kind of like far with the ruffy gruffy and then he comes in and he's sort of, you know. He's got a ring. And he's, yes, he got a ring. But he, because he sat behind someone, never took a snap. This guy, he's gonna get another ring this year by doing the same thing. There you go,, I. Joe McKnight. He sucks. No good. No good. Not gonna play. Rex even said it. Not playing. Yeah, I mean dropping balls, fumbling. He just, and he, and he sits there, he gets the ball and then he goes, what am I gonna do now? And hit the hole. Hit the, I was sitting there watching him bounce back and forth. I'm like, hit the hole, dude. Hit it. Yeah, he's got happy feet. He doesn't really, it reminds me of like, like Thomas Jones when we first got him. Had that sort of like... Now by last year, Thomas Jones sort of learned, I have to run straightforward through these holes because they're making new holes for me. But when we first got Thomas Jones, I remember thinking like, this guy's like dancing too much in the hole. Like they're used to Curtis Martin like straight ahead, five yards, boom, boom. And Joe McKnight has that like Reggie Bush fever. Like maybe it's
09:03 Jake: because they both went to USC or whatever it is, he just doesn't. run forward and when he does he fumbles. I just think he's thinking too much. I mean you can almost see a little cloud burst above his head going okay I see this guy coming. Every NFL and I didn't play in the NFL surprisingly I know you didn't know that but I didn't play in the NFL but what I've heard from all the books and stuff for a little bit. I played in the Canadian Arena League. It's called the nothing aboot that. But they say that it should all be instinctual. There should be no thought. You practice, so you think about things, but then after that you go and it's just instinct. Instinct where to run. So he's no good. But the other two are good. I mean, there was a lot of action on Twitter last night about if McKnight wasn't a draft pick. Oh yeah. And if he was Danny Woodhead, the free agent. Yeah, there'd be no question. You think we keep Woodhead? Yeah, I think Woodhead and the other Tronsy Washington. Tronsy Washington? Yeah. She won't be capped. I mean... He was doing much better. I would keep both of them and have McKnight not on the roster. But McKnight was our Washington or was our Leon Washington. Washington replacement. But he's not good. No. So, cut Bay. But you can't cut him. You can't cut a second round pick. Well, he's not a second round pick. He's a fourth round pick. Of fourth round pick. And why can't we cut him? We've got to watch them break down certain things that we see. That's how Brady got his leg. broken or where his knee popped out. It's interesting to watch how the coaches can pick that end. Best part about hard knocks? The Terminator sequences. The Terminator. He knocks the shit out of guys. He fumbles over nobody. He knocked the crap out of guys though. He did, but he fumbled for no reason. His job not to touch the ball. On our 10. His job is not to have the ball on his hands. His job is to knock guys out of the ass. No, his job is to have his ball on his hands sometimes. No, we don't want him. We want him just not anymore. But I hope he learns that. Yeah, no, I like that. He's... The other thing I got from Hard Knocks, which I've said in the forums and whatever, and said for years, which is that as fans, you only get to see the games and then whatever people report, but you're not sitting there watching day to day. And one of the things that we as fans think is, well, we should cut that guy and that guy should start and this guy should start and we should cut that guy. But you don't have enough information. I always said in the forums... You know, the coaches see, while we might see five hours of stuff, or maybe six hours of stuff, they see days worth of stuff, and then months worth of things. So they're not making a decision based on these small pieces of information. They're making it based on, so when they make these decisions to sit this person or start this person, they're making it on much, much more than we have as fans, and this hard knock, I think just... blows that out of the water. So you really see how they cut back to everything, how they
12:00 Jake: look, how they talk about it. They get in these big meetings and they make comments and stuff. The whole thing is just awesome. It's just awesome. But what other big surprises from the preseason? You worried about the offense? Because that's what the question is. Here's my tweet question. Are you worried about the offense? I'm not worried about the offense. I think we haven't seen the offense. I think we've seen bland bits and pieces. We haven't seen any Brad Smith packages. We haven't seen any- He's been like a ghost on that show. That's right, because why would you show anything in the preseason? We haven't seen any special Lydanian Tomlinson packages. There was rumors of him running the wildcat in practice. We haven't seen that once. We haven't seen the offense, in my opinion. We've been running vanilla stuff. I don't even think we've seen the defense and they've played extremely well. I would say the problem is, this is going on pre-season. If you're going to say, well, we haven't seen good stuff on the offense. I don't think we've seen anything. I think they've been playing very vanilla-based plays. We've seen the same blitz package over and over and over again. We haven't seen anything crazy. We haven't seen any sort of interesting offensive plays. It's been very, vanilla, handed off, go left, handed off, go right. And we've escaped with only a few injuries. We got that big guy, what, Patuatui or Patuagland? Yeah, uh, Rahati or Patuatua. Yeah, Patuatua. He was a big dude, out of defense. I had never heard of him before. We played hard last year. Did he? I'd never... A little bit. When Jenkins was out, I mean he played a little bit. Well everybody played. I played a little when Jenkins was out. Pace was the big loss. Well it was funny because he was out last year for the first four games. Four games! Well they're saying now, originally they said like six weeks, which would have put him out basically the first four games, but now they're saying there's a chance that he will be back by game two. So again two is important. Yeah, I mean there's a chance that he really won't miss much time What I find interesting is that they've been starting Jenkins and Puha yeah and Ellis as the three defensive linemen, which is a very interesting You're just putting big dudes out there and saying the linebackers, these three guys are going to take on all five offensive lines. And you guys do whatever you want. And it's been interesting to see that. It'll also be interesting to see how Vernon Gholston... fits in if he'll get a lot of playing time. He seems to step up a little bit. He seems to be, but I mean even that sack, the last sack of the end, did you watch the end of the game? He had a sack. Hey! Yeah, but the guy like literally just went, you know, I tried to chip him with a shoulder and he just went around and sacked him. I watched him and I thought what I liked, what I liked about seeing Goldstein, again I'm...
15:01 Jake: Maybe I've just never done this, maybe because I've seen so much hard knocks now that I'm really just paying attention to one thing, but I literally just tried to watch him. I was like, don't watch Michael Vick, don't watch anything. And I felt he was playing his position well. Because in a lot of scenes he was not set to go get the guy. But he also, I like the hustle, like he was hustling well. He's running and he's trying to catch people from behind. But when his job was to get through that guy, when that was the play, Hey, Golston, you go in. He couldn't do it. He couldn't get by this guy. So here's our first round draft pick, right? Playing against a second, you know, a guy who might not ever play this season, and he can't get by him. I think you have to forget the fact that he was a first round draft pick and think of him now as just a back-up defensive match. You know what? Let me take the $20 or $25 million guarantee and forget it. Well he took a pay cut, didn't he? Yeah, I don't think it sounded like he's not Clemens. Let's give him money for Revas. Yeah, money for Revas. Take some of that money and give it to Revas. Hello, money for Revas! Were you reading the TV's when you were watching Hard Knocks where they were talking about all the money that they had to save because of the Revas contract and this and that? It's tea leaves, but it's not tea leaves because they want a signed review. This is just a matter of, well, first of all, it's an uncapped year. So in some ways, it's kind of bullshit. Yeah, it's bullshit. Because they could hand them $100 million this year and say, your one-year salary is $100 million. They could. I'm not going to because they don't want to set precedent that they can't withhold next year when it goes into CBA, back to CBA. But, yeah, in some ways it's kind of BS, because there's no cap. So they don't have to keep anybody under anything. They could basically spend all the money they want. Of course, Woody Johnson doesn't want to do that. The runner, look at the little fit guy running. He was all sweating up, and I was like, who's for you? It's not weird to see Woody, Tannenbaum. and Rex and then Braylon Edwards. What's he doing there? I just saw that as awesome. What are the two of them doing there? It made it seem so much more like camp. I'm airquoting now for all you people. Justin can actually see me. It felt like camp, right? They were kind of kidding around. Like summer camp? You know, like camp. No s'mores. Bart Scott's hysterical. I also noticed that Bart Scott, he is like, he's Rex Ryan's like... Yeah, he's his guy. His angel. Or whatever. Because that guy is never five feet away from him. During the games, Bart Scott's right there talking to him. That's his guy. It is his guy. Him and Leonard. And Leonard is awesome. Oh, he is a very good player. He doesn't talk, doesn't do anything. Very underrated. He looks about ten. He knows the system extremely well. He played under him in Baltimore. He knows the system. He's always in the right place. And even when Bart, like when Mike Patim was up in the boot thing. He's awesome too. Yeah, he is cool. I want him to be the next coach after X. Bart is like, what's he doing? He's crazy. And Rex is like, no, no, no, I told him. Yeah. And he said, well, there's a difference between... being playing aggressively and playing crazy or something. Well, the team is Rex's guy. Yeah, well it's another guy of his. They're all these guys except for...
18:00 Jake: Well, Shoutenheimer's not his guy. The Inherited Shoutenheimer. It's interesting because you don't see them talking very often. You see him and Woody have a... Well, if he runs the offense... Right. Rex calls the defensive plays. Well... He does. He calls the team. Team is the defensive coordinator. Rex calls the plays. So I think Brian Schottenheimer is a little bit off on his own like, you're more of an assistant at Coach. Hey, listen, score me 14 points. And I'll do the rest. 14, that's it. 13, give me 13. I'm gonna win the game. What do you think about Sanchez? Just in terms of not only the preseason games, let's do it with the package, the preseason plus the hard knocks. He seems like a really engaging character. He is. He's definitely, if he can put the game together on the field, he's going to be an absolute superstar. Because he has... He has the it factor. I don't know if he has the like the Joan Nameth it thing. Yes. Like he's cool, he's got the hair, he's got the hair. Mark Ronell won't let his daughter near him. He's changing the thing. He's got the personality he seems and this has actually just struck me this morning. You're just thinking about Marc Sanchez in the shower. On my run, I went for a run this morning, because I don't listen to music, and I've been running for 10 years, and I don't listen to music, I just run. And it's a great time to think about. So I was thinking about Marc Sanchez. I was thinking, he's not coming across as, and they said this, and then it kind of sparked it. The leadership doesn't seem to be there. He seems to be a kid. He's a little young. He's 22. Yeah, I know. But even when he's being talked to... You can see he's kind of fidgeting and they said that a couple times and I went back and watched it and he's like, yeah, even with someone of like great importance is talking to him, he's still... I don't know, I think he needs to still mature. The game I think will come to him. The decision-making will come to him, that's experience. I think he has the talents. Now it's a matter of can he be mature enough to do it, so... So that was hard knocks, the preseason game. What other, just give me some opinions on stuff that you saw that you're excited about or not excited about. Braille and Edwards hasn't dropped a ball all preseason. Right? If he hasn't been overthrown by like a mile. No, no, I think the receiving cards could be... What do you think about the beard? I love the beard. I freaking love it. Especially when he was like, when he was shopping and he was like, oh there's a gray in there. Oh he had a fit in there. He had a fit and he's like, I could see it. He's a character. He is a character. Some of them are real. San Antonio Holmes. Seems like a good dude. I'm saying San Antonio. They're talking him up like he's like the next coming of amazing games. I do not like him fumbling balls. Yeah, what's that all about? That's no good. And two in two games. Yeah, what is that? I haven't done that since rookie season. We just did two in two games, dude. You know Greg Buttle said something pretty stupid on the telecast last night. Wait, so he opened his mouth. He did. Um. and we'll see you next time. I don't know if you were watching, did you watch the whole game?
21:01 Jake: Yeah, to the last. When he was talking about San Antonio Holmes, it was probably like his second catch, I think. He got open on a good route on the sideline and he was like, oh, no one can cover this guy, man to man. Yeah, even Rivas can't cover him. Even Rivas couldn't cover him. I was like, I don't know, I think Rivas probably. I think San Antonio Holmes playing against Scrubs seconds in... in Philly, which isn't even known for the corners. Like, I don't think that's a... Yeah, that was a little dumb, but he does look good. I mean, he had the long, long catch from... I think... For now, and when you get the three of them out there with Keller and a running back, that's a tough squad. And does Cole's come back for the four games? If he doesn't get picked up, he's not getting picked up. No one's signing him. No one's picking him up. I have a feeling they'll pick him up because of the whole veteran leadership thing. I would prefer to have him on the team to, you know, a David Clowney. If Clowney's not doing anything on special teams, it doesn't seem like... Oh, you covered that ball. Watson on special teams and Larry Turner to me. It feels like you have this magical view into it that you never had. I like Larry Turner. Don't you like that guy? With a little guy? Yeah, he's awesome. Five-six? He's so good. Is he bigger than you? No. Yes. Shit. He's an inch bigger than you. He towers over you. I'm probably way more than him. Well, that's not so much. Ha ha. Well, yeah, he was good. He was good. All the characters are awesome. Um, let's see. Biggest... Jason Taylor doesn't know how to drive anywhere. Oh my god. And his whatever million dollar car doesn't have good GPS. What is that crap off of? Um. I worry about him. I... He just... He doesn't seem to have fire. I don't, when he's on the field I don't see the fire, and when he's off the field I feel like he's like, he's on vacation mode. Doesn't he look like he's in vacation mode like... Well yeah, but that's concerning, cause he's not, you know, he's not there just to take, he was there to take 75% of the snaps, now 100% for a couple games. I don't know, that's concerning. I think LT has shown that he's still got something up in tank. I don't know if he's got a full season left in the tank, but I think he's got something. Sean Green has looked good. The offense line looked okay, you know. They have that hole. I think Slauson's going to start. Oh yeah, Slauson's starting. The cost was literally letting guys go with like... with, you know, thank you, come again. Yeah, he can't. And then, yeah, only two injuries, which I think to get out of preseason with only two injuries and none of them are season ending. Like, I'm like, thank you, thank you. Well, I mean, one, but I don't think that was, you know, a starter position. Yeah, well, Patuhi, he's gone for the season. But Pace, a couple games, fine. He sat off for four games last year. We seem to do OK. The key players, Sanchez didn't get injured. None of the skilled players got injured. And none of the big offensive line guys got injured. That's good.
24:01 Jake: Tank and Sting get injured. Well, yes. That we know we have him for about 10 games. I wish they'd just say something and he'll do it. I just think they should say it for the first five games and just let him come in for the last 10. That's so dumb. The guys just... Their first bunch of games are really difficult games. Yeah, they are. So, we're not doing predictions, but give me... Well, to talk a little bit about Revus... Give me your Riva's prediction. Well, now we have from now, literally now until the start of the season. Well, that's in eight days, nine days. So my prediction is I'm going to stick to my guns, what I said all along, that he will be on the field for the opening game. So he's been fined $582,000 so far. I think it goes up when you start missing real games. Like it goes up big time. You think he'll be on the field starter or just kind of in and out packages for him? Starting. So if he signs, If he signs, he's starting. You think he'll be signed next Saturday? Walk on the field and cover Antoine Bolden. That's kind of true. I would like to be that I think he signs I don't think he starts I think they'll you'll sign him and then they'll They'll put it they won't start him just as a little like And they'll start the other guy, but then they'll slip him in very quickly. That's just my bike it I mean we need to sign him that yes, we need that there's there is a It has become clear that we absolutely need him to be on the field. Yeah. Because you can't do what we want to do if he's not on the field. But if he is, and you got Wilson and Cremarti, then you can do a whole lot of things. Just sucks that like he wasn't there and I don't know who to blame in this situation. It's sort of one of those things where I don't think they're just both to blame. Well, our big Giants fan blames the Jets organization saying that, you know, they should... I think a lot of people blame the Jets. I think it's easier to blame... Okay, you can say you blame Tannenbaum or you blame Reavis. It's harder to say the Jets are like an organization. So it's easier to say the guy versus the organization. I don't know. I think he still has a lot of contract left. This isn't his last year and I think that's the difference. I think they did it right in terms of they got the guys they need to get and they got them signed first. I think they thought that he wouldn't hold out. Basically that's what I think. I think they thought he'd come in and they'd get it done in the season. but I didn't think that they thought he'd hold out. So it kind of pressed the foot to the metal. And then... Well, they're saying a lot of things at the end of last year. But what? He's great? Well, like Rex saying, he's the greatest corner I've ever seen. So what? Like saying we want to make him a gem for life. I mean, these are things that you take to heart as a promise and saying, wow, okay.
27:01 Jake: And they're gonna sign me. Did they ever say I want to make him the most... I want to make him the most... If they're saying it's the best corner that they've ever seen, then that implies that they're going to make him the highest paid corner in the league. That's not true. The best quarterback. Well, come on. I mean, he's... His paid man is the best quarterback in the league. Yeah. Is he the highest paid quarterback? He will be next year. Ah, but is he staying out of camp because he doesn't want to go to camp because he wants to be paid now? No. He's still getting paid and when he got signed, he was the highest paid quarterback in the league. Yes. When he signed his contract, he had gotten the biggest contract ever. Listen, is Nick Mangold the best center in the league? Yeah. Did he go to camp? Yeah. Did he have one year left on his contract? Not three. Has everybody said he's one of the best centers in the league? Dude, you're not getting anywhere. The point is, you have a choice to say, I want, well, I'm just taking the opposite side. The choice, you have a choice to say, okay, great, I want the money. And everybody knew we'd give them the money. to not go to camp is the choice that he made, not the organization made, that he made, to not go to camp, to say, I'm going to pout until you get, I'm going to use my leverage, right, and I'm going to hold out. So I think that's where I kind of, I lose, I lose respect for him when he does that, as opposed to if he, yeah, you can say, I want the most money, I think we should pay him, but then they're not going to camp, it's hurting the team, not... Not the Jets, it's hurting the team, it's hurting his teammates, it's hurting the defense. So that's where I come on up. So I think that's it. Do you have anything else you want to throw in there? So next week we're going to do our picks. We've got your picks. So I just want to, for all you out there, a couple things we're going to try to do this year. I'm going to set up a... and I'll post this and we can both tweet it. We're gonna set up a... A week, a pick'em week. A pick'em week. So you can pick against us. So you can pick against us. We actually set it up, I got tweeted out. So that'll be for next week. Pay attention to Twitter. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter.com, JetKingdom, Twitter.com, JustJetKingdom, Facebook.com, JetKingdom, or www.jetkingdom.com. iTunes. Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, which is great. I can tell that there are a lot of people subscribed on iTunes because whenever we release a podcast, it gets downloaded immediately, which means that iTunes is picking up and sending... Is there anything in that new ping thing that could... No. Should we ask people to ping us? Can't. It's not for podcasts, yeah. So Justin's talking about iTunes 10, which includes a new social networking. I think it's only for music. I tried to look for podcasts. There's nothing about it in podcasts. Everyone who's listening to this podcast, write an email to Steve Jobs and tell him that we need to be able to ping the Jet Kingdom podcast. Yes, so a new social network. So next week, big week, we got picks. We hopefully got a new, we got a guest, a special guest star. We are going to announce our pick-em-league so everybody can play along and pick against us or with us or however you want to say it. And we'll make some bets. You and I will make some bets.
30:03 Jake: We are out for blood. You'll be picking against you. Because then every week we're going to talk about some of the games on all of them, but we're going to talk about the games we disagree on during the podcast. We should probably announce who won the week in our league. And obviously, when you and I will have our own little head-to-head, anyone else out there who's a member of the League will make such a difference. So I went with spread. Yeah, it should be with spread. Why not? I mean, if gambling was legal... It is. In Vegas. I'll be there in a couple weeks. Alrighty, so that's gonna wrap it up. Again, follow us on all the different places. But until next time, and as always, well, you know, go Jats.