Rancho Sancho

December 5, 2012 · 46:20 · Rex goes back to his guy and names Mark Sanchez the starter. We talk about how we feel about it and what it means for the rest of the season.
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Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and they get a lamentation of their women. The best place to be is when expectations are high.
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00:13 Jake: Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Welcome to JKMV Podcast. The longest running near Jets podcast. This is the last time we benched our quarterback I'm Jake and joining me For the hundred and seventy fourth time is that the right number? It's a long time. It's Justin Justin. I doing buddy I'm alright. I'm good It's a beautiful Wednesday here and there's really no we had our Monday podcast which is our winning but didn't feel like winning podcasts. So we have nothing more to talk about then. The big news of the day came out this morning. I was at the gym and hit ESPN. I predicted it. Which was that Sanchez would be the starter. Rexie goes back to his guy. Sancho forever. Me though you long time. thoughts and opinions. So you predicted as we remembered for two days ago that he was gonna go with Timmy Timo. I predicted that he would go with Timo. I wanted him to go with Sanchez so I'm happy I get what I want. So how do you feel? You feel good? Yeah I get what I want in this case which is to not give up on on Sanchez when seemingly everyone else in the universe has You want to be so you particularly want to be the last person on the planet? No, I just I just don't like being wrong And I'm just you're willing to copper One stubborn about it, and I think the Jets should be stubborn about it, too I don't think that they should admit that they were wrong in this case I think a few things are very clear. I feel like the coaching staff does not like Tim Tebow. Uh, yeah, I think that's very clear because if you have a starting quarterback that is clearly having performance issues. Yes. Performance sexual performance issues. Maybe we don't know, but he's having issues on the field. He is not performing to. what should and could be his abilities, you oftentimes look to go to the backup. I mean, look at Arizona. I mean, they've gone to their a who've gone to the backup, right? You know, some for injury reasons, others. I'm not sure I can really think of others where it's been like performance related. Well, they go to the back of them, whether they come back to the starter is the question. So like in Philadelphia you're seeing, hey listen, we got this guy, we wanna see what we have for next year. Vic is basically gone two seconds after the season ends. So let's do Fools.
03:00 Jake: In San Francisco you have, well we have this guy, he did well last year, but we have tons of upside in this Kaepernick dude. So we're gonna stick with Kaepernick. Even though Alex Smith. was injured, but then he's back. I mean, he's back. He could play Alex Smith if they really want to, but they're not. Yeah, it says a lot actually. Well, no one really ever thought Alex Smith was a great quarterback. Everyone knows Harbaugh is a great coach. And that's I that. And Kaepernick, in some ways, Kaepernick lost in that game last week. They could have every reason, although they would be stupid to do it, but they had every reason to go back to Sanchez. Look at that. Alex Smith. I think they would lose some locker room. Yeah, you can't flip flop on this. Yeah. I think it's clear that the coaching staff in New York does not believe in Tim Chibo. I also feel like Rex this year said he would, and I feel like he does, have a better pulse on what's going on in the locker room. And I think in the practices, or in the off day, and then people showing up at the complex, and then in the practice day, he sort of got the pulse and got the feeling like, you know what? People still believe, they're not down on Sanchez. There's some other circumstances that are at play here, which is. road games in a row. I played this game at home this coming week. It might be a different decision. So you think this is a part of the decision. Let's give Sanchez enough chance, and this is coming up in a second, to give enough chance to base the attack. the fans to some degree. I don't think he's ever going back, but that's my question to you. And in part because he's on the road. So he's got two chances, two chances not get booed at a stadium. Two road games. Before he comes back. And supposedly on Sunday night, I cannot imagine they're going to keep that on Sunday night. I cannot imagine. I mean, it's possible. Sunday night. Yeah, the Chargers game is a Sunday night game. That's a Sunday night game? Yeah. Is it really? Well, not for long. No way. Anyway, well they could I mean there's a lot of good storylines in there. Yeah, New York Turner's last game. A lot of firings and QB controversies, but I'm sure there's a better game now. We'll see. I mean I guess if the Chargers go in and upset Steelers, which by the way we want them to, and if the Jets win two games and go back to... That game won't, that'll be flexed out. Well, we'll see. Anyway. So, here's my question to you. As a broadcast... I've already asked one, but go ahead. No, the broadcast... Alright. What type of games... So let's say he's going to start this game. If he doesn't get hurt or do poorly, he would then start the next game. Right. This is good theory. By the way, we're actually going down to the Tennessee games. We are. We will witness that. We can boo him and... person. We can. Ha ha ha ha. Not go Roy. So what does he have to do? So what type of game? Give me like both in terms of a mental, kind of descriptive thing, and then also give me like from a,
06:02 Jake: like give me some numbers. What kind of game does he need to have this game and next game to like? He has to play like he did in St. Louis. Like if we play two games like we did in St. Louis. where there was no mental mistakes. I think he went like 15 of 20 or something like that, ran the ball really well. No picks. Lead the team with confidence. Look like you've got control of the game. And when, really, then I c- it'll be okay. It'll be so vitriolic when they come back and play. And, yeah, it's just a little bit of a shock. It's just a little bit of a shock. It's just a little bit of a shock. It's just a little bit of a shock and then they go out on the and Yeah, like it's a bomb to Stephen Hill and Stephen Hill falls down. Like the third pick in this game, in this past game. It's probably the third one, yeah. Well, the third one in this game was just a, okay, that's a Dorell The first drives are going to be important. Huge. Just for confidence sake. I think first drives are very important. And I think the way you finish the game is more important than the way you start the game, but it's gotta be. But those first drives, like if he just comes out and is just so flat and like confused. He's deferring by the way. I don't know. There's not a thing in the world. All the Rex likes to say a little fuck you to everybody, but see if he wins the toss. Would he take the ball in the opening or would he say defer? I defer. I defer. I like the ball in the second half. Yeah, I do too. Defer. These teams are terrible. Your defense should be able to go out and stop them immediately. Lights out. They should play lights out. And that's your thing. Defense is gonna hopefully help him out a little bit here. Like, they really rallied around the change. Hopefully they can... That's a perception. We don't actually know that. Well, it looked as though they did. It looked like it, but they were actually playing that way all game. I mean...
09:00 Jake: Yeah, that was more Arizona's ineptitude that it felt like they did just pull The crowd just got up. The card got a bit, and then they did a big play. But the crowd could have got up and not got up, and they could have made it some play. I took part in the ESPN.com, Sports Sports Nation. Do you agree with Rex Ryan's decision. Start Mark Sanchez at quarterback versus Jacksonville poll. Oh yeah, let me go over there right now. Let me take it. There were 71 total votes already. This is under the NFL area because I can't see. No, it's in the New York. Oh, the New York ESPN? Yeah, in the Jets. Yeah, in the Jets. By Rich Simini, it's just buried in one of his things. Um, and I voted yes, and I'm in the huge minority. 27%, yes, 73%, no. No, he is, at this point, he's, I mean, this is- He's completely out of favor. And, I mean, there's a point of which does this like set Rex up to be, I mean, it's gotta work for him, or not that he's, you know, I don't know if he's really on the hot set to get, you know, fired, but like. Thank you. I think this puts him in that row. Here's the thing, and we talked about this off air the other day. There's got to be someone behind the TMT booth. We actually don't know, but it looks to us. If you're just an outside fan looking in, reading the reports, whatever. I just voted it down up to 27%. Say yes. Yeah, that's where it was. If you just... It just looks the way that Rex has been using Tebow and the way it's Barano's been using Tebow It looks like neither those two guys Wanted this guy because they don't use them at all They don't whatever they could there's so many games when Rex was when they were down by 30 points or whatever They could just said all right time to put in Tebow the San Francisco game It just seems like They just they Miami game they could have put him they don't want to so then if they say who wanted it like who? Like who who wanted it once what me it's pretty apparent. You think it's Woody Johnson. I do I don't think what he Johnson is the kind of owner. I've been watching him for years. I think he's wrong No, I don't think he's the kind of owner that He'll take advice. I feel like it's Tannenbaum wanted him. He convinced Woody. No, I think it's the other way. I think Woody whispered in Tannenbaum's ear, Hey, Denver just got Peyton Manning. That means Tim Tebow might be available. And then it's over. It's like, oh, okay. Yeah. Let's see if we can get Tim Tebow because... Everyone in the world loves Tim Tebow because the ESPN set up camp at the Jets Preseason camp like they ESPN set up there They were like live from Jets camp. They weren't live from anywhere. They were live from Jets or a week Do you think Rex wants that?
12:00 Jake: Yeah, Rex wanted to be on Hard Knocks. No he didn't. Yeah he did. No he didn't. He likes to be in the spotlight. He did not want to be on it this year. That's why they weren't on it this year. Not this year, but the original time he did. Sure, but then when it came down to it, they wanted the Jets to do it again. And they didn't do it. Rex didn't want to do it. Probably the owner wanted to do it. Again, I always wanted to take it to the circus. We got a ticket. You've got a ticket. He won't announce his backup. So that's... This is like even dumber. It's like, well... Won't announce the backup. What's the... What does that matter? Cuz there's people then there's a really because there's a really short leash Because if Sanchez comes out and throws an interception on the first drive pick six you will no pick anything he might get pulled Right then and there you would pull him in the first first thing. Yeah That's it Dude, I'm giving you a really like I'm kind of doing you a solid by even letting you play So you and your eight million don't go throwing picks on the first drive If it's the same old shit like they get the ball like you know the 30 they drive down they get to the 20 Third and four he throws a fucking pick. It's like fuck I gotta pull you, man. This is the same shit. Let's move on because we'll talk about this when we talk about the game. Have our playoff chances gotten any better since Monday to today? No. No, no, they have not. I'm just... Well, they have... I mean, how could they? I know. It's being facetious. I don't know. I'm bringing levity to the podcast. Did Big Ben get more hurt? More hurt or cleared? Not cleared? playing San Diego at home. They're dead. They got nothing, man. They play close, but then they lose. They play hard, So let's do some of the what ro or know what might happen. Well then we also play Tennessee, so we kind of. We beat Indianapolis, we play Tennessee, so we have to have 10 wins. Who cares? Because one of them's gonna be... We want one to go and one to go lower. We don't want them both in the middle. It that doesn't matter okay. Well. That's irrelevant. I want well
15:02 Jake: It's not relevant, and I can't really I mean the bills. I mean they're the same record as us Miami oh Rams yeah, you gotta root again Basically everybody in the AC Everybody listen it's happened before ma'am. He's going to San Francisco that they're losing Yeah, now they're and then they play the Patriots the next week Yeah, so now they're catching the shit schedule that we had early they're going oh They're going oh and two in the next two weeks. Yeah, wrong teed Yeah, all right, they go to say they go to San Francisco and then they go to the Patriots. No, it's not All right Speaking of easy schedules, let's do some pick-em. First of all, so let's check on where we are, how we doing, who's leading the who, who's doing well, who's doing bad, who's at the top of the, oh, wow, is that me? Who's at the top? You're at the top by one. By one over Mattie Gett. You got me by 10. By 10. No good. I mean, you have the entire postseason to catch, but that's... you're digging a hole there, buddy. I don't know if I can catch up. Tends a lot. You've even dropped below my brother-in-law, which is pretty bad. No, we're tied. Oh, yes. I guess. Well, he has a time pick. Let's get this started. Let's do the pick-em. All right. Every week, pick the games against the spread. That's what we do. Leave the AFC East out of it. We do that back to that later and we do it basically by the way We do it on Yahoo see so other people play against us if you want to do a lot of people playing against us Yes, next year you can all we talked about the jet Kingdom Fancy Football League, but that was before it was all official because that was on Monday when we did it So if we look at the scoreboard playoffs round one We have there is a consolation ladder. So that is set up everybody keep your lineups going So everyone everyone who's in there keep playing because there is the consolation bracket We have the number one seed Southwest Homer's Stephen Peterson whose idea I think it was for this whole thing So good on you for it and for winning the regular season. Yeah, I'm going 10 and 3. Taking on Jets over the pond, and they will play this first, do you wanna like look at the teams and bet on who we think will win? Not really. Okay. And then we have the two and three seeds. I'm number two with a nine, three, and one record, versus the number three seed, that would be you. At nine and four so and we played each other twice and we've split so we're pretty much as close as you can get yes I'm the only big half of While I tied so yeah, I think even if we came in Both at nine and four I'd still be the two seed because I have a lot more points than you scored. It's possible. Alright, so that's starting up this week. Fantasy playoffs, week 14 and week 15. So it's not over for you or me. After this week, we still have another week to go. That's true. Alright, so let's get to the pick-em. We will start with a Thursday night game. That is a stinker
18:01 Jake: Really? Yeah, Oakland's terrible. I guess Denver is going to Oakland Denver's giving ten and a half Points on the road that is a lot of points. I'll be giving a division rival team Yeah, McFadden might be back and is Oakland terrible. Yeah, terrible. I can't even decide like I feel like Ugh, I can't even, I can't say Oakland, so give me Denver. I'll take Oakland, I'll take the points. No, I'm going with the Manning rule. Manning on prime time, give me Denver. Yeah, uh, short week, McFadden back, uh, I just, I don't think it even matters. They're a garbage team, they're just terrible. They're just garbage time teams, so they'll catch up in garbage time. Yeah, Brett Myers will have like 12 catches in this second half. All right, uh, Cincinnati, a team we need to lose is hosting Dallas with a standard three. you. point line since he's favored Hmm, I like since II but I'm gonna pick Dallas Going that way so that's the one you lose this will be a go I did it for my heart or when I win it'll be happy happy time. No, I'll just take the point I'm over Dallas cuz Dallas has looked Kind of good lately. So is Cincy. Cincy's on a roll. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like Dallas is a game that they could go in and win. Yeah, I agree. And by three points, I'll even take it. So I'll take Dallas. All right, next game is... This is crazy. Cleveland is favored by six and a half points over Kansas City at home. Six and a half for Cleveland. Give me Kansas City. I don't care how bad they are. Thank you very much. Six and a half. Cleveland? Cleveland? I mean, they might win, but not by six and a half. Like by three, four, two. Kansas City's bad. But Brady Quinn just won though. Didn't look bad. Yeah. I kind of like, I like a little research. They had that little like, garbage time after their guy, you know, did the, the whole, which we didn't talk about and we're not going to the whole murder suicide thing. We just did talk about it. Oh, I just mentioned it. They came back like a day later and won a game. Yeah, against, you know, not a very good defense and not a good chance. All right. All right. So I have Kansas City. Who you got? I got Kansas City. Okay. I'm not going to catch you at this rate. Uh, Indy is... Maybe that's it. I'll just pick every one of your teams for the rest and then I will at least beat you. Indy's home. They're hosting Tennessee. This should be a high scoring affair. Indy's giving five and a half. I'm going to pick Tennessee. Oh, I like indie at home five and a half. I'll take indie. Yeah, do we know if Chuck's gonna be there? We need to know these things. Chuck's gonna show up. Yeah, he's gonna show up. He went by 40. They're gonna shave. Shave people's heads in the locker room or something. Something like that. All right. Are you saying that we need to coach with cancer next year to win? Yeah. All right. Let's find a guy with cancer already and hire him. We haven't just lost everybody. Everybody just shut off this entire podcast. Sorry to everybody. Sorry. We're Jets fans. We're sorry. We are a cancer.
21:02 Jake: Chicago is going to Minnesota and Chicago's favored by three. One of the... There's only this week there are only three road favorites And this is one of them Chicago by three coming off of a bad loss to Seattle. I like Chicago. Give me Chicago Pittsburgh hosting San Diego. It's off That's in Pittsburgh. I'll take Pittsburgh. Well, you know what? I totally agree with you I mean you should take Pittsburgh whether it's Charlie batch or not But they just won like a Super Bowl game. Yeah, they did. With Charlie Batch. So this Charlie Batch again, I feel like this total trap let down. I'm gonna pick San Diego. This is Charlie Batch comes back and becomes Charlie Batch. I'm gonna pick San Diego. Nah, Pittsburgh at home. Sorry. I'm just gonna hope for Charlie Batch. I might go back in on Sunday and change this depending on what happens with the line and the quarterback. Yeah, once I see the real line. I mean, I can go look at the real line now. Well, I mean the real line's... It's gonna change. It might not even be one. No, there's always one. Tampa is hosting Philly. Philly's god awful. And Tampa's pretty good. Tampa's giving seven and a half. I'm gonna pick Tampa. I immediately went over. Tampa's good. Tampa is good. Philly's not very good, but Philly's been playing all the teams close, not good. In Tampa? Yeah, but they end up losing by like 10 or 11. No, they end up losing by like 3. Really? Yeah. Is that a true statement? That's what I feel like. They end up losing by 3 or 5. What happened? I don't think they're losing by 7 and a half. Last week they lost by 5. Exactly. Because they had a 98 yard punt return in the last minute. And the week before? They lost by 8. Alright. So the week before that they lost by... 24 that's when that was when they got before that they lost by 15 the week before that they lost by 14 the week is the win they is this the way they win losing pretty bad It's the week they win that Nick Foles and now I can't look good. All right Tampa. Ham is playing for something You convinced me Tampa Bay I mean Philly's good. No. Alright, I'll take Philly. Watch this be my worst week because I actually listened to you. Washington and RG3. The Phenom. RG3. Just beat the Giants at home. Now they got Baltimore at home. And Washington's favored by two and a half. And Baltimore, they're they're not the same on the road. Their defense is not the same. Suggs with the torn bicep. But guess who coming back to practice this week? Ray Lewis coming back to practice. That's crazy. You know what though, Ray Lewis. Not fast enough for this what this Washington team does. I like Washington. They're tough to stop man. I don't think they beat, they won by one point against the Giants. I know. I think Baltimore is a better team than the Giants.
24:00 Jake: Do you really? Because I don't. I think they can run better than the Giants and I think they have big, they have that same big. I don't think they're... Really? They have a better record. science. Doesn't mean anything. They're in the AFC. I'll take Baltimore. Okay, good. I am. And the points. I mean, Baltimore points. Now granted, they're on the road, which usually means... Oh, here's another road favorite. So here's... there's four of them. Uh, Atlanta is going to Carolina and it's three and a half. That's because Atlanta's been winning games by like one point. Like if you look at Atlanta, they've just been... Squeeze in a mountain the last couple games. Nope Carolina. No good. Let KC be. Bead them last week. Give me Atlanta. Yeah, I'm with you alright That's your final one o'clock game. We'll be talking about four o'clock. There's only three We got hey, three four o'clock games and stop put more team why are there so many one o'clock games? and three four o' Uh, Woody would prefer McElroy. 65% chance of McElroy's. No, sources, no name, no nothing. This guy is making shit up. I'm telling you. Sources say, what's his name? Sources say Manish Mehta is making shit up. No, what? Manish Mehta? Yeah. Sources say Manish Mehta sucks cock. I'm just saying, sources say. Sources have told me. Sources say, some people tell me that he sucks cock. Some person who shall remain nameless has told me that Manish Mehta... Sucks cock In the Jets locker room we by the way any chance that we ever had of ever getting a press pass and become Becoming some why I've managed many make shit up for the daily news to get headlines I mean, I don't you read the story the headline said Woody Johnson favors McElroy and then the story never said anything about it. Really? He just wrote a headline and then never said anything in the story to back up anything that was in his headline. He's a complete douchebag. Wow. I really dislike these writers who are Ball they've no balls. I mean sources. What does that mean? That means I can make this shit up if I want to Why not? and you did New York Jets Not it's in New York. Yes, New York Giants. So there it is. Got your giant. You did get me. Ah, yes, you did your Giants our home against New Orleans and this is the kind of game that the Giants show up for. Yeah, because they just lost to a team that they probably should beat.
27:02 Jake: I mean the 5 points is I think a little much. New Orleans should be able to throw. Jibrize is gonna not. Throw five picks ever again. Probably not. I'll take New Orleans. Why didn't he get benched by the way? I don't know. Why didn't Matt Ryan get benched? Matt Ryan, yeah. Throw five picks, but they won the game. Throw five picks they won. Oh, we're only seeing one. I'll take New Orleans. I'll take New Orleans to just keep it in there. Yeah, I mean, I don't... five is a lot. Five is a lot of points. Do we know if our buddy's going to this one? doubt it. I actually, I don't think he's going anymore for the rest of the year. I think he told me. He's a true fan. He goes to like four games. This is like a game. Listen, you can't even go to the game, the Chargers game with me. It might be me and like one other person in the stands. I would go. I just can't. I will be out of town. He will be on a cruise. On a cruise. I hope it's a night game in the Caribbean. I hope it's the night game too Cuz then I could watch it on the cruise. Otherwise, you're not gonna watch it. No, I will Is it having a bar I guess? No, they actually... I've been on so many cruises I've gone on cruises for like the last 10 years They have the Sunday ticket on the cruises Justin: I've been on the cruises where they don't Oh in the rooms? Yeah, that's good Jake: I'll just sit there for 3 hours and watch the game Alright Seattle's hosting Arizona 10.5 Don't give a fuck Give me Seattle at home. why can't we sign I don't care don't do that he called everybody not liking Sanchez yeah but the Walker room is behind Sanchez bring him in I'm sorry if you're Mike Tynanbaum Yeah, and you're Woody Johnson in five bucks And this guy just called you an idiot, you are not gonna pay him a dollar. They're talk- he said they're idiots for benching him. No, they said the idiots- the idiots in management. Oh, that's dumb. He probably could have gotten signed. He probably could have. Let glared him anyway. No, they're not going to. And I don't want him, he's relent, he's no good. I don't care, I want him every play just to run straight down the field. But he's not good. He has seven catches this year. I know. Why do you want him? I know. He's garbage. I know. Give me Seattle. Let's move on. What did you pick? 10 and 1 half. Arizona's so bad. They'll probably score 14 on defense. Give me Seattle. Green Bay's hosting Detroit. Green Bay's favored by seven. In Green Bay, give me Green Bay. is a tough one I think this is gonna be a high I mean, they're just better than Detroit. They are better. I don't know if they're seven points better though, but I'm gonna take Van Bay. I know, I gotta type in these stupid... I hate where I have to type.
30:03 Jake: I just type in like zeros, and that's why I don't win any. That's why you stink at life and everything else. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. It's easy to pick the team with the fewest points this week. Yeah, it was too easy. Okay, let's get to the AFC East. Alright, let's do our throne picks, buddy. How did we do last week? Let's do the throne picks. So last week in the throne picks, you went 3-0. You got the scores wrong, but you still went three and oh, I went two and one. I thought Jacksonville might beat Buffalo. Let's go Buffalo. All right, so let's look at this week. We have St. Louis who is getting three, three. And they've basically beaten- beaten them. Right. Right. They beat them and they tied them. So St. Louis, the team the Jets went to St. Louis and beat has tied and beaten the team that took us out behind the woodshed. I mean team that takes everyone out behind the woodshed. Yeah, they don't take people out behind the woodshed. Pretty dominant. Giants went in there and beat the fuck out of them. Literally took them out. They dominate teams like the Rams. I mean come on. We crushed the Rams all right so anyway, I think it does me nothing I hope st. Louis wins this game, so I'm gonna pick st. Louis to win. It's gonna be They have a hard time scoring 1713 as well say you actually write in your scores everybody. I'm writing them in um yeah I actually think possible win this game and not that I want them to But I don't know, Singless on the Road, Buffalo at home, I don't know, I just have a feeling like the Buffalo, it's gonna be close. I don't know, I feel like that was their Super Bowl last week and this could be a big letdown game for them. Okay. Houston. I don't know how this makes it. This is like the game. This is a Monday night game. How does it make to the- Why is it there? Yeah. I don't know, it's just there. Okay. Houston, Monday night. you you We get a good Monday night game. Good, what's the Sunday night game is? Well, we just did it. The Sunday night game was the second to last game we mentioned. It was the Green Bay at Detroit. Okay, good game. We got good primetime. Good primetime games, actually. Not really on Thursday, but whatever. It's funny, I know we don't talk about this other fantasy league, but it's the first time I've ever had an entire thing that is done. at one o'clock. I have nobody after it. Your roster's done at one. Done at one. I hate that. And he has a little- Do you have anything on Thursday? I have a kicker. All right, get a little head start. Yeah, but then, and then he, and then he like, he has, everybody I'm against, cause this is the playoffs now, he has everybody's like Monday and Thursday and four o'clock. So it's like, Oh yeah it's gonna be watching those score go up and then I'm gonna have to wait and pretend that he doesn't catch up to me. You're gonna have to just be rooting against a lot.
33:03 Jake: A lot. The only thing is his quarterback goes on Thursday night. So I'll know a lot about that. He has the Thursday night. He has the Thursday night. I don't. Who's his quarterback? Peyton Manning. Bad matchup for you. I know. I'm hoping that they're terrible. I better hope they're up like 31-3 at half-time. 21 and 14 of them are by running and then they stop. Alright, that's not gonna happen, but they throw anyway. in San Francisco? Pretty tough, I don't know where, but it's... No, home. Home, of course. They're the ones who just luck out. They get... Well, I did get the London game. Well... This isn't a luck game. In actuality, I feel like... You know, we got a little screwed. I would have rather have gone to San Francisco and had Seattle come to us. Yeah, yeah, you've said this before. But anyway... It's a good theory. Yeah, we would have lost San Francisco anyway. We could have beaten Seattle at home. possibly. Miami did it. Maybe we booed loud enough. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe McElroy would have played. So I like New England, so I like New England to win, but not cover. Hmm. 34-31. Yeah, I have, oh, I don't think I mentioned my score from last time. So I said Buffalo, sorry, Buffalo 21-16. I, you know, this could be a- Houston's super tough. They are a super tough team, but I think New England is a team that just can score on anybody, and I think they will. It's not even the- they're just like tough to hang in there. At home. I don't know. They'll think it's gonna happen. Yeah, that's why I think New England will win. 33-28 New England. I think if this was in Houston, it might go the other way. Maybe. 33-28. New England. Okay. Uh, next game we have San Francisco hosting Miami. San Francisco's favored by 10 in this game. Um... Miami just played a real... played tough against the Patriots. They played tough against the Pats. Played tough against, uh, Seattle. I don't think Miami has what it takes to move the ball against San Francisco. Right. Like San Francisco has... Like some legit shut it down stuff. And they will, I just don't think Miami will be able to really move the ball at all. Totally, totally, totally get that. And I think that the San Francisco offense up front is getting more dynamic by the day with Kaepernick. to the point where they can put up some points. Although, you know, it's interesting you say that, but again, not my analysis, so I'm stealing. But they're saying that like in the first game Kaepernick played, it was like a new offense. It's like the Kaepernick offense, where there's a lot of throwing. The last two games he's played, it's been like back to the Alex Smith offense. They're not like using his ability to like throw the ball. Well, he ran for 84 yards last week. Yeah, but it was like busted plays and stuff. I saw the one That's not a busted play. Well, they run a lot of that like stuff that not quite the way Washington runs it
36:03 Jake: But they do run a lot of like read option type stuff. Anyway, I like San Francisco 24 10 Yeah, I think stick it in there. I don't think it'll be I lay in San Francisco. Yeah, I think they'll play tough I think Miami plays teams tough. They're not they're gonna win. They're not getting beat the shit out of teams They've lost a lot of games, but I can't beat the shit out of So, I mean, you know, 2410 is sort of a beatdown. I got 17.9. All right, and then the Game of the Year. Game of Century. Game of the Millennium. Game of nothing. Game of Thrones. The Jets are one of those road favorites, by the way. All of a sudden, we're favorite. Favorite? Well, we'll probably be at the... Again, if not for one or two teams... I mean, this is the sad thing about this season is because... We're one game away from being a great shot at the playoffs, and we're now in the long shot at the playoffs, because our next schedule is just so caked. No, they fucked that New England game. Well, the first one? The one in New England. Yeah, that would have been great. They had it won. They fucked it. Question for you, how many years or when will it be, or when can you see the future that we actually take over? and become the team that is the number one seed in... Never? I don't know. Bill Belichick and... I've been a Jeff fan for so long. Well, there's been years that we've won. Yeah. That was... I think it's basically when Tom Brady or Bela... Yeah. ...Josch... ...retard. No, and when... It's... It's actually... more Bela-check. You use Bela-check. You can throw in any guy. Not any guy. But I mean... Brady's not Brady without Belichick. I don't think. I think Brady would be good without Belichick. I don't think he'd be a Super Bowl winning champion. He'd be good if in his fifth or sixth year in the league, he then went and played for another team. I don't know if he'd be as good if he was drafted by the Raiders. But don't you feel a little bit like Belichick struck fucking gold and just has just been mining that. I have a lot of gold references. Has just been mining that one or deposit forever. And it's like, yeah, but if Brady was drafted by the Raiders, he would not be in the league. No, no, no, but I'm saying that's true. But you lose Brady, I don't feel like he could put a team that would then dominate the AFC East anymore. I think he could have a good team, might be an eight win, nine win, 10 win team. There wouldn't be a 14 win team or 12 win team. Consistently over the last bunch of years drafted like quarterback prospects. to back him up. Justin: So you never know. Jake: But we all know, those are about as crap shooters like throwing a quarter outside. Well you never know, I mean, you know, you get Russell Wilson in the fourth round, or you get Blaine Gabbard in the first round, or you get Sanchez in the first round, right? Like you never know. Wow, you just made a Blaine Gabbard Sanchez reference. By most people's standards, they're pretty close to the same thing. All right, so give me some keys to the castle and a score for this puppet here. What's happening here?
39:00 Jake: Uh, you're having a hard time. Ah, I like a jet. I like a jet's victory. Ah, me too, but what will give me the keys to the castle? How can we do it? Ah. We know who's starting. Yeah. We know where defense has gotten better during the years gone long. Pretty simple. Pretty simple formula. Just what? Don't turn the ball over. Ha! Like just play, you know, play the thing. You know what really kind of bothers me is that there was this whole thing like with the McElroy, like there was a breakdown of what they did with McElroy. Right. And they handled him with kid gloves and they did a lot of rollouts and half the field reads and they started running the ball more misdirection. Why the fuck didn't you just do that with Sanchez? Because he's supposed to be a fourth year quarterback who's supposed to have a big boy offense. Okay, well guess what? The not big boy offense took them to two AFC Championship games and the not big boy offense was the one that won the game on Sunday. So you can... You can either coach to what you have or you can not coach to what you have. And what we've been doing is not coaching to what we have. clearly we need to run a Baltimore run more misdirection run more bootlegs give them half field reads or three-quarter field reads not make them look all over the place in Braille so he can read it with his eyes shut make it just make it easier on they made the game easier on McElroy right they make it harder on Sanchez they give him a lot more responsibility and maybe it's just he can't do it so fine then don't do it Like if they said, Macora, here, go run the Sanchez offense, who the fuck knows what would have happened? So just handle it differently. It's a good key. What's your score? 23, I'm typing it right now, 23, 13. Wow, 23 points. I think that's more points we put up in my- I like it to be a lot like the Rams game. I honestly think it's the it's the missing piece that we've talked about it a lot. It's the thing that I'm I'm just. I'm stunned that has turned from our one of our biggest strengths to our biggest weaknesses, and it's something that I know is a game changer for us, and it's the thing I need to have come back. Sanchez will do Sanchez. A running game will be fine. Jacksonville is no good. I feel like our defense can take down their players or even missing their best, their most dynamic wide receivers out. So it's like shorts has concussions has a concussion. They're down to like their fourth string running back. Yeah, they're down to a low on the back of quarterback fourth string running back. I think I do. Do you have a bet on this podcast? But what an M.G.D. is coming back because I feel like we should put that on the board somewhere looking for week 15. OK. Um, cause I still feel like they're gonna shut them down for us this season
42:01 Jake: I feel like they would have done that already Nope Why, why not? I don't know, there's insert of politics, I just know, but whatever I'm talking about my keys to the castle So, again, this is not a powerhouse team This is not a team that's going to, I think our defense has been playing better Our pass rush has been better I, like I feel I can actually put up a good point, but we need our special teams not to just fuck us in the ass. Ooh, good one. Right? That's what I want. The key to the castle is not to have our special teams fuck us in the ass. Don't start us at the two yard line. Hey, dude, if it's going to bounce at the five, let it fucking bounce into the end zone. Don't fucking catch it at the five the quarterback who throws Pichu's back on either side in the 20s like he's going out of style Like he's gonna get paid every time he picks those who pick six Don't start him at the seven or the eight or nine Let it fucking go in the end zone Just let it go dude Ugh Like our special teams have been so horrendous And it's not that it's making us lose the games But it's not helping us How about a punt return that gets us to the 50? How about a kick off return that sets us up in a good spot? Then when you can really just run the shit out of it and kick a field goal and get off the field. Like let's do that. Let's do that. Let's have a fucking special team that doesn't fuck us up the ass. Stop fucking us up the ass. Whatever. That's all I want. I mean, field goals bouncing, I mean, this could be a game where a couple field goals matter. Six points might matter. No more bouncing them off the goddamn uprights. Two in a row. I'm sure there's a record. Like, I was waiting for the third one, so it would be like, oh, we just hit a new record. Like, the Jets set the record. The most bounced, or three in a row bounced off the uprights. Gotta do something better on the special teams. I hope T-bo's not playing. I feel like the Jets play as a better team when he's not playing. Don't know factually if that has anything to do with it. Let's just go. Let's play the game. Let's play the game we want. I love your suggestion. I actually think that's even a better one, which is just dumb it down. This defense isn't gonna fucking, you know, they're not the smartest defense on the planet. dumb it down, dumb everything down to like bone simple, go to his rookie playbook, pick out the seven plays he liked, and just do that over and over again. Just do that, throw a lot to Keller, hand the ball off. Nice, Keller playing? Maybe. Ankle scream, but whatever like, just you know, make it simpler. Swing passes to ignite, that's the one I want. more swing passes to midnight. Right, and then defense, step it up. Don't wait for your quarterback to get sidelined before you step it up. Step it up the whole game. I want to see some more mo hits. Mo hits. Mo hits on the quarterback. How's that? I like it. I like it a lot. So I'm predicting 17-10. and I don't think this is going to be a blowout. I don't think there's anything we can do to make anybody believe that the Jets are a good team because at this point they're really not much of a good team. But I think we're going to win 17-10. And you know what? If that's two touchdowns for Sanchez and he comes away with a, you know, pass-through rating and completion rate that aren't in the negative,
45:01 Jake: then I'll be happy. That's it, that's it for the podcast. We'll see you next week. There's a little unnormal for us, but I'm traveling tomorrow, so I won't even, I will be on a plane while the entire Thursday night game goes. So we'll not be able to see it. I don't even know, I don't think I'm going to JetBlue so I don't have the package or anything. It's kind of a bummer. Bad planning by my part. But we'll be back. We'll do, we'll come back on Monday if there's a big win. If not, we'll see you next week. Until then, as we always say, no matter who the quarterback of the New York Jets is, because I think we've been around longer than Sanchez at this point, right? 2007, way longer than Sanchez. Oh yeah. Yeah. We'll be back. We were back. We were with Pennington. Here's the thing. We'll be back. We'll be here even after Sanchez. So until then, . Go Jets! You
