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00:03 Justin: You should share enemies, see them driven before you, Jake: The best place to be is when expectations are high. Get used to it. It's always going to be that way. Can't wait! Welcome to the Jet Kingdom Podcast, the longest running year of jets podcast ever. I'm Jake joining me for the 231st time. Mr. Apologies, the Brit with the wit. What do I have to apologize about? Justin, no last name, Justin. What am I apologizing about? A boot. Um, you, whether Bt you're a part, oh, that's terrible. I got a good accent. What did I do? Nothing. Yeah. That we didn't have a podcast last week. Your fall. No, it's not my fault. I had my mic. I was ready to rock. That's true, but we didn't do it. Um, so apologies to the world out there. Um, but we're making up with a Tuesday podcast. We're going to do one yesterday too, but that was again, your fault. That one was my fault. as a family. Conundrum your fault. Well, I have children and you don't Again your phone don't say to me. I actually only have one child because in my house I I have children So we have tons to talk about I hope the wife doesn't listen. She is shot across the bow third child second job, so We thought we can talk about the Jess versus the Chiefs. We're gonna talk about that game. I forgot that game. I know, we should. You just forget it. Pick our fool of the game. We'll talk about Jess versus Steelers. And then we have all sorts of news up and down the square. We have FireRids' ignuse, Jess versus... Jess in London news. We have Sancho plays. What has nothing to do with Jess at all. We have JK Fantasy. We're gonna follow Sancho for the rest of his life. We'll do the... pick them well kind. Kind of true. We'll do the we'll do the throne picks for next week and that's it we just run a buy so I know. I will be in a hotel room watching if they have the NFL network. Otherwise I will find a local. Oh, that's a watering hole. A local. We did that last week. So where were we last week that we couldn't do a podcast? Seattle. We were with the 12th men. We were. That is a crazy, crazy, crazy town. We were not there to see the Giants. We left before they played, but we were in the city and we were there to watch the Thursday night game, which was fun. They had a, we had a good time at their sports bar scene there.

03:01 Jake: Thank you to Fuel. Fuel in Seattle. Thanks for hosting the Jack Kington podcast. Yes, both of us. They didn't know that they were, but they were. You were a lot of fun. You won some stuff. I was a lot of fun. Yeah, whatever. What do you mean? What's wrong with me? So much fun going to a bar with a guy who doesn't drink alcohol. Well, yeah. Yeah, it's not. It's like the moment. Yeah. You didn't even get any tickets. No. No. Anyway, so yeah, then I want... But you're the douchebag who's like, he's an alcoholic. He's recovering. You know what? That's better than douchey. I'm doing a 30-day water challenge. It's really you know, it's really douchey being like he's an alcoholic Totally especially when you're the alcoholic. No, it's really good to be like That's right. Actually, he's my sponsor. He's just watching me He's a terrible sponsor. He brought me to this bar He brought me here to show me. Haven't you ever done that? Haven't you ever played like different, like gone on vacation? He's the crack head, that's why he's not doing the crack. That's right. Dumbass. It was funny, it was funny. So we actually watched it and I won a football toss. Yeah, I won somehow. I won stuff because I'm very talented You drew this football like a dart , I Yeah, I forgot this game. Just watched it like normal or even together not even together hooters. Touchdown on his ass sitting on the floor. He catches a touchdown. Yeah that happens and The Chiefs were just home and better than us on that right? We didn't make any mistakes We have mistakes in in a couple games here I didn't make it we didn't make a turnover mistake allowing them to score 14 points the first Quarter is a mistake. It's not a mistake. That's just being outplayed. Well, okay mistake. Oh, I accidentally let you score. That's right Accidentally, well, I mean let you score one of the plays They had it played pretty well, but the guy's fucking sitting there in his ass and the ball falls in his lap. That's right That's the butt touchdown but touchdown. I don't even want to pronounce a fool for that game. Yeah, let's pick one I don't know who I might even give it to like I don't really recall Maybe Antonio Allen. Oh, he got he played terribly badly. Yeah. Yeah, Antonio Allen. I mean, you can pick you can pick the corners. You can pull the secondary. You know, I don't feel like they actually got to Smith at all. Like, do they actually sack him? I don't know. I don't have to. I don't have that. I just have the Steelers on the one that's fun.

06:01 Jake: Let's get to the fun game. All right. I'm going to pick. Um Dan Farrell as the game that was the Empire good good for Martino Smith for not suiting up. Yeah suit up Gino. You were so close to play because Vic got hurt or got hit and didn't uh Matt come in for a little bit. Mattie Sims. Yeah, he did. Yeah, we almost. Almost had a little game time. It's a little playing time. Little PT for Mattie Sims. He went three for eight, 39. Mattie Ice 21, 21 yard. And he had a rating of 83. I mean, Michael Vicki, that's the thing is like he actually. Who had a good rating like he He's funny to good ratings. Well, but this game actually was like a real quarterback We had to throw the ball more than you know in the steelers game Look at the numbers like it's like it's like rookie was what he you'd want with a rookie Game manager after the first half. I mean he did he did throw for two touchdowns in the first quarter, right? Yeah, but we got a job done here. Or, um, all right, so let's drop that game and let's get onto the game that was. So the Steelers coming off of two back to back six touchdown games where they basically took rivals and other teams out behind the woodshed and beat them. Yes, badly. Um, the Jets. No, the Jets were. Surprisingly low underdogs. Yeah, something was up. Someone knew something. Something knew something. Like the Jets can't keep losing. Yeah. Although this was the game we should have kept losing. Yeah. Right. Why not? I actually rewatched it. Someone gave me his reason. Someone called. He said the Jets are gonna win this game. It's just a friend of ours. Oh. The friend we don't talk about. I said, what do you mean? You're like... He's the same one who predicted the Giants gonna win 20 whatever it's it's always fun to be like the Jets are gonna win this game And then if right if you lose, yeah, of course, they're not winning. It's like yeah Well, what was your reason like why were you so sure he's like such a trap game for the Steelers on the road I'm like they always beat us the Steelers like no trap games or anything like that He's like there's such a trap game and Rex Ryan wasn't gonna lose like nine in a row I was like just like he wasn't gonna lose four in a row or five in a row or six in a row or seven in a row like or eight in a row I mean he's never lost four in a row or five in a row or six in a row or seven in a row or eight in a row but it happened all this year it happened so there's no reason like that it's not a good reason Rex Ryan wasn't gonna lose nine in a row because that's the line right eight Okay, but nine? No. No! Rex Ryan doesn't lose nine in a row, bitches. So, this game, we were both there. Yes, we were. We took a special guest. Special little guest. My daughter, uh, to the game. Um, which was... Not often that the guest is shorter than me. Yes, not often. Uh, she, uh, she started off the game by throwing up in our seats.

09:01 Jake: She was like, I'm sick of this team. She threw up. She was like, this is what I feel about this team. Throw up. I would say her tailgate was very good. She had a very good tailgate. Solid tailgate. She had a lot of fun. She threw up. She threw up. Nine-year-old. Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you'd asked me for the game, I mean, I would have picked them in this thing because I always picked and win. But I would have said, yeah, they're going to get slammed. It's going to be Ben Roethlisberger to one of. four guys all day long. Yeah. And that's what's gonna happen. Ben Ralinsperger stats, by the way, aren't too shabby, but he did throw the two picks. Like he did throw for 343. He was 30 of 43, which is close to 70%. Right. And he did throw for a touchdown. But also those two picks were true or costly because one was on the goal line. And the other was also on our side of the field. So I think we had more turnovers in this game than we had the entire rest of the season. And it looked like, you know, it's sad as it's like, and we'll talk about this sort of postgame show and Vic saying, you know, if you had started them earlier, you know, they would have won more games. He said that in the most diplomatic way you could ever say. He did. It doesn't matter. Once you've said it, they're going to take the snippet they want. He's like, I'm saying this in front of you all on camera. this way right now on camera now like this. So then what they say is, Vic says, woulda won more games. Right, right, that's all they needed. But he did say that. He did, and he's probably right. Well, he is probably right. I think the problem with the New York media, and I guess our brother and your brother, because you're in the media. My brother, I'm a media member, you are a douchebag. I'm just a fan, I'm just a pure. I'm someone who hires, you know, planes in the air. You're the people. I am the people. I'm the man. You're the douchebag media. I'm the man. But they're so... The man-ish. They're so hindsight. Everything is hindsight. It's like they have no... They get to sit there and go, well, if you've done this this time, it's like, yeah, that's great. Everybody can tell what we should have done. But like the plan was, Geno Smith was going to... get the start because we wanted to see, because he played well at the end of last year, because they wanted to see if this is the guy. The problem probably was, and Vic was the competent backup that they could put in if the season was within hand and Gino Smith was losing the games, and Vic could come in and write the season. This is gonna be the release picture. Right. The plan was actually very good. It just wasn't executed quickly enough. It needed to happen about three or four games ago. There was a couple games in there that it needed to happen sooner where it looked like Geno was kind of playing okay, but they should have just thrown in Vic anyway. It was one too many touchdowns against the Bills, one too many picks against the Bills. There's a couple of those where they just should have pulled the thing faster. Vic didn't take advantage of his... First opportunity which was that Chargers game right where they lost 31 nothing right if he would have came into that game which he did he played in that game and

12:00 Jake: Been somewhat competent right wasn't he wasn't wasn't ready and he admitted it right? Then he may have stolen the job the next week right because the next week I'm sure Gino played like shit again unless that was like Unless that was like into the Denver the Denver New England stretch She actually kind of played well that sort of like saved his job a little bit And so it's all hindsight because now looking at at the one game or the two games that he actually thought it's what Gino did Last year a good game bad game good game, you know against the Falcons on Monday night lead the fourth quarter touchdown like you know But you know what Mike Vicks done in the last two games he started and he hasn't turned the ball over game. And that's the big game, that's the difference in this Whatever it was. So much fun being there. I mean it was like maybe 50% Steelers fans Do you feel like it was 50-50 or do you feel like they were just louder? I think they were, to start they were a little louder. I don't think it was 50-50. I would say like 55-45 It was darn close to it. It was as close as you. But they're also dressed as something that's very obvious. Like they're waving their towels and all that other junk. Which first of all, okay I like fans that are passionate. is that it was on offense and they did this the last time we saw them too when it's on offense and their team now they have let's say the majority of the people and and the Jets are cheering the Jets fans are cheering to get the defense pumped up to stop their offense but there's the dumbass Steelers fans also cheering as loud as they can waving their towers now wolves while their team is

15:00 Jake: I was just having a blast watching I was just having a blast watching them all leave, dejected. So here's the thing. as well. But, for some reason, the Steelers got into his bonnet, and so he was up every third down, cheering and this and that, and I was like, what happened? He's like, I just want to show up to these fans. So, apparently, the only way to get Justin to really cheer for his own team is getting enough other fans to show up that he wants to show them up. So, you know, whatever. But yeah, it's the game plan that we thought would be the way we could win games. Keep a close game, get some turnovers, don't make any big mistakes, and score enough to win. I mean 20 points in this, in the National Football League where there's every other team is putting up 40s and 50s and 60s. 20 is not a whole lot of points. There are people putting up 20s in the first two minutes of the game. I mean, what did Green Bay go up by, what do you have? Five touchdowns. It was 42 nothing at halftime. I mean six at 20 The team didn't have a Percy Harvin. He, the a nothing to say of- a,. He's used in a lot of different ways. He's used how I thought the Jets were going to use Chris Johnson. I mean, he ran the Jets sweep. He ran a pitch play. He's he ran the ball as a running back six times. He had those strange like we have two pounders or one pounder and once because anytime you throw a guy on the field in a weird spot that you have to pay attention to. To them in a different way, it could detract from other places. I love it. I love Lining guys up in weird spots. I love running plays with a guy like Percy Harvin who can do just about anything on the field. He's super fast. I just, I agree. He's a great addition so far.

18:00 Jake: You don't hear, you haven't heard anything about the whole mess in the, if he's a locker room menace or not. Too soon for the locker room talk. Too soon for that. We'll see. Um... But the way he's been deployed on offense, he's a good third down target. He can go down the field. He's good out of the backfield. He's good on those sweeps. He's good on the fake sweeps so you can hand the guy to go up the middle and gain 10 yards. Very effective. Weapon to have on the field and now at the bye week where they actually get to really sit back and think about how they Can really incorporate him into the offense and give him some more time to get acclimated and get big in there as the starter and get Sadly, they're gonna end up winning more games than they probably should and be in that middle pack and you know Get like the eighth or tenth pick instead of like the second or third pick But yeah, this is this is this whole season will be too little too late. That's what this If you had to title this season, it's too little too late. They're not gonna win every game out. Obviously we're gonna be below 500 team to win this, to end this season. But this is a team that, you know, again, if not for one or two games. What do we have? Six games left. Yeah, six left. I can see them winning two or three more. Yeah. Well, I get that four, four wins, five wins. I mean, it's not one or two. Yeah, like there's I mean Oakland and Jacksonville Tampa these teams aren't winning, winning anymore games. Right, well they're just bad and we're I think that's the thing is like the Jets are not a great team but they're not a terrible team. They're below average. They are below average. Well that's what they are who their record says. But they're also a team that was within a field goal beating the Patriots and the Patriots. All the games that we won last year that were, you know, under a touchdown were losing this year. That's right. So the eight and eight season last year that could have been five and eleven is the same thing you're seeing this year. Whoever the, you know, the people out there, the media who said that. I mean, it was Bill Barnwell. There was someone who wrote that. Bill Barnwell. I don't know who it was relent whoever said that. This is the problem with this jazz. They won a lot of games they shouldn't have won. Season is deceiving so they're gonna go they're gonna regress to the mean Bill barnwell Grantland our car All right, so let's pick your pick pick your favorite play and your And your whatever the game favorite play of this game. Oh So many good ones, um You know I think it was the first interception. The one that was on the goal line and number 22. Sorry, I forgot your name, buddy. You mean the guy who's like the number one guy in the whole thing? Number 22. No, not Jaquon Jarrett. Number 22, which was a... Corner named, Marcus Williams Made a really nice play from behind a receiver

21:01 Jake: Kind of like came through him knocked the ball in the air and then Jarrett intercepted it right and that was a big one Cuz it's like on the goal line by the way That's what I was gonna name this podcast what gotta go to Jarrett Gotta go to Jarrett? Or he went to Jarrett. Because you know that commercial and I would like my name better. Um, we'll keep your game. Thank you So that would be my play of the game because it was a really good one And how do you not give this to jquan jarrett as the the night of the games? He he had seven solo tackle a sack sack big Ben as a big Ben as a big Ben as a big Ben as a big Ben as a big Ben as. as a big Ben as a big Ben as a big Ben as a Stepped in you know, it was very quiet It was quietly done and I said it to you like immediate like right when they did the announcements They announced the starting defense and I always announced The the four defensive linemen come out as defense Yeah, I'm in and included in that as the fourth is Quentin Copel So the the three linemen and yes, hey comes out as a group Then they announced the linebackers three of them and then they announced the secondary and they only three of them. Right. And I said to you, they didn't announce another safety. Right. What are they doing? They only announced 10 players. And then it was kind of clear as the game went on, it was like, Calvin Pryor is not playing in this game. Right. He's literally not playing. He was scratched. He was playing on special teams. He was not playing on defense, and I don't think Antonio Allen got on the field either. I think he was on for like two minutes. They had a really good defensive strategy. And so in the after schedule, you remember the conference, Rex, he alluded to it, which is so funny about him. It's like, it's the part you love and the part I'm going to miss a little bit. is that he literally has no filter. And so he was talking and he doesn't want to say it because he's supposed to be doing this private thing in his team and what stays in the locker room, stays in the locker room, but he can't help himself. So he was like, well, you know, this is all about just showing up on time. Or he's made some little tiny comment and we're driving back and I was like, yep, I bet you the Calvin Pryor, this is like right after the game start. And I was like, I bet you Calvin Pryor was late to a meeting and he got bent for that. Now it's his way through the media, through whatever of dinging him. And part of me just loves it, and part of me thinks, man, that would be handled so much different by other coaches. Yeah, I'd be like, we're on to the bye week. Yeah, we're on to the bye week. We're on. But yeah, and then it came out later, right? That he was late. Yeah, he benched him. Yeah, he was late for a meeting and they benched him. But I don't think either him nor Alan actually played in this game on defense. And it was a very good strategy that they were playing. They were playing like they're basically double teaming Antonio Brown the whole game. So the whole game Landry would line up wherever Brown lined up and and the corner would would be up on Brown and then Landry would just stack them double him if he was just doubled. Now he got his catches or whatever, but he did not get his yards and he did not get his touchdown.

24:03 Jake: And that was a big difference in this game. I mean, he still had eight catches for 74 yards, but it broke his streak of like 90 yard games. I think the whole season he said 90 yard games. Well, them running for 36 yards. It could not run. That's crazy. That's crazy. Like, does there an up the middle running team and three guys who ran for more than 36 yards? I mean, like, we don't allow that. We ran for about 50. Oh, man. We should have crushed them. I mean, we really should have won this game by the score didn't really say the outcome of this game. I mean, this could have very easily been 35. Yeah. And they put I mean, they had a they had a missed field goal. So do we? Yeah. But there's a very rare shop. Yes ours was a little bit longer, but it was still rare very rare There's a chip shot, and I missed it And yeah in the second half. I think it was just more of oh my god. We're winning. Let's not lose That was kind of it. We stopped Going down the field. I think one big play yeah, so what's your play and play. Um, you know, I guess the, I guess I'll pick the, I'll pick the pass, you know, the bomb TJ Graham. He described it in the, in the after he's like, you know, I, I saw the single safety, I sort of emotion to him and then he's like, go. And I saw him there. Now it was a great throw and a great catch that I feel like that only worked once in a while. Cause there were, there were two guys on him. It was not, it wasn't like he was. You see those sometimes where the guys just literally has like the one against us. He was literally open with nobody around him. Anybody catches that ball and just walks the end zone. He was covered and he didn't get tackled and he made it in the end zone. But it was, that was kind of the killer. I mean, they certainly could have come back and went from that, but that was kind of like the. Oh my god, this team is for real, because we walked all the way down the field in the first and kicked the field goal, and it's like, oh, this is what the Jets do. They only kick field goals. They can't actually have big plays. Oh, you know what? It was nice to see Michael Vick's arm. And I'll give a, you know, did you give, did you give it to Jared? I did. Okay. Jared, I'm going to give it to Vick because. He's a guy who like he's done what I think what we wanted him to do Which is come in play a safer game and win games again too little too late But you know Well, he just kind of has proved with this game that if you play a mistake free game safe and you have good good couple in plays a couple of plays here and there and Keep the defense like safe like keep the deep like protect them a little bit. Don't put them on on the opposing team or your own 20 with their backs against the wall already down seven nothing. Go out on the first drive and put some points on the board and then don't put the defense in bad positions. This defense can play, but all year long even saddled with. the shittiest of circumstances for the most part. Yeah. Well again, not against every team, but against a lot of teams.

27:01 Jake: Well the teams, well that's the thing, if you look at the ones that we kinda came close, it was the ones that we didn't turn the ball over. So it's like, it's such a big, it's such a big game changer. The Patriots, we were within a field goal, didn't turn the ball over. You know, the wins we get blown out, he's throwing 3-4 picks. And pick 6's and putting them at the 20. I mean, it's like... You can't you can't do that. You can't win games. It's funny cuz Vic is a guy I mean we almost turned the ball over and I watched that replay and I was humbled he fumbled he did fumble I don't know why they didn't reverse it me neither, but I think the whistle blew it No, he just said I think that was it What was the ball was coming out and he was down? I think it was the whistle had blown so one of the little side note from this was the The expletive that the that did you see the whole news with so after the game was over Rex comes on the field and says, fuck you and screaming at somebody literally. Justin: As soon as the ref. Jake: Well, I think it was at the player because that guy who came over the top. Oh, who jumped over the top. Which we didn't, we actually were kind of leaving the stadium so we didn't see that. Yeah, but he just. We saw the skirmish. We're like, oh, what's going on? I saw, you know, in the replay and he basically. the gold gave him up. Fucking wrestle a WWE move did but that's shitty like don't do that I know you know what this gotta be a little what I feel I feel like the offense is giving up We are kneeling right we are saying to you We are respectfully ending this game because if we want we can run the ball And if we want we can throw the ball if we want we can do whatever we at that point We're still playing offense right, but we've decided we're gonna take a negative play right. I'm just gonna keep the clock running and the games over we've we are saying this game's over and You should accept that like There's no reason to fly over the top and hit a quarterback So mangle did the right thing and flipped him over his shoulder and then they all got in each other's face fine But that is a little bit of bush league. I mean there's there's part of it So it's like play the end right play the line at the same time, you know, the offense is kind of Saying listen right the games over right you can't win at this point all we have to do snap the ball and kneel You're not gonna prevent us from doing that by flying over all you're gonna do is hurt somebody right knock it the fuck off Right and the chances of it at means happen. I think it's worth once. It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna work So all right to get flip And you deserve to get cursed at by Rex. Um, and some, uh, some news. All right. Let's get some news. So the fire edsic fire edsic website, fire, john edsic.com, the banners. And I visit the flying over and I went to the website. Yeah. So did I just slow that animation thing down that they have going on the front. And it flips. It flips too fast. You can't read it. Um, I'm not in, I mean, I remember back when, uh, when was it, it was a dolphin.

30:00 Jake: Uh, there's one for the dolphin GM. And so I, I've seen it before. I've seen like this happen before. And I remember, you know, we'll be Ireland. Maybe it was. No, something else. They did another one for, maybe it was the one that had coaches. They were like fire hammer. We used to have the Joe must go chant in the nineties. Um, So I'm not surprised. I'm surprised by money being spent that people actually like websites are free I mean, they're literally free in the world. Yeah, but like hiring a plane It's got at least the dark and I get like an indiegogo going for that And and to put billboards up must be at least a thousand dollars So people are spending thousands and thousands of dollars to basically say how much they hate John is ik. That's right. What say you? broadcaster about firing John Idzik. Is this change the tide? What, one win? No, no. That's... When's the last time you saw in our team, in our sport, in our... for the Jets? I've never seen it before. I mean, I've been to games where it's like, you know, Joe must go. The rich co-tite era didn't end very... peacefully. Um, you know, I actually think Pete Carroll was fired, um, in large part, well, because the team fell apart of it, but also the fans kind of wanted him to go. So if you're Woody. Yeah. Well, if I'm Woody, I know things that I don't know. Justin doesn't know. So I can't. Can't really yeah, but okay, but comment on the stuff you can comment on which is if you're woody I don't fire your I'd fire them both. They're gone the whole team's I Know that this over no matter what happens. Yeah, I think so So now what happens someone come in? Hire their own coach Inherit a nice cap situation that it's a creative for them But not a lot of talent on the roster necessarily and let them build it the way they want to build it. I mean You got to look at a couple of different angles. He had the chance this year to Have more talent on this team that is currently on a chose not to write you chose the long game So the only question is, did he know that we were going to be this terrible? And like I've said before on this podcast, maybe he's had that conversation with Woody. I doubt Woody would sign off on it, but okay. Maybe he might, but he might say we are between a five and eight team, eight win team and, and fine, but, but really where, where it b comes down to it is. This guy. While it's still in this season, picked 12 players in the draft of which one was on the field on Sunday. Played. Right. One out of 12 is not a good ratio. No. And then if you go back to last year's draft again, I've defended last year's draft pract and- and a, a

33:02 Jake: One guy playing right bus here. Okay, but that guy guys two guys playing so guy Yeah Richardson yes, that's the one guy we all know and Well Hannah wasn't last yeah A bushy a bushy, okay So okay, so you got a certain regard and Sheldon Richardson like the rookie of the year last year get you a little bit of It's a great pick. I mean I've read read read or write read draft. It's like oh, let's write the number one He was the number one right in the job You did great there But and the whole gang rid of getting rid of With big contract, you know, I did good. Yeah, I'll talk about Sanchez in a minute, but he did good I mean that was A cornerback who plays on a real team that has that does stuff He's a human being who I've seen on TV That is the best record in the NFL that is better than anybody on our show Marty at this point is a step above anybody. in a I could start and we didn't think he would be and he is. Yep. I've seen him actually make an interception. He scored a touchdown yesterday. Yeah, we're at it. He picked it up off the ground. So anyway, I, I think I would fire him. I ,ir, I think his, his record is. It's not, it's substandard at this point. Do you think you, don't you think one of the things you do, and then we gotta move off this topic and we'll go on to a million others. So I wanna make this a five hour podcast, but. I feel like for Woody, there's two parts of it. There's the pressure from the fans. And because the fans ultimately are the ones who sit in the seats and who buy the jerseys and whatever. So if you don't play to them, you're liable to have some other things go wrong. But then there's also the ego. Because ultimately, he's firing a guy he hired. It was like his fifth choice though. Yeah, but he didn't come out and say that. He didn't say it's my fifth choice. he said This is the guy I'm having. He interviewed a bunch of guys who didn't take the job. Um, but, well, okay, but are you gonna have better chance this year? I don't know. Why would you know what's out there? Well, maybe there's someone else out there. I would like to see them, if they fire everybody, I'd just like to see them go in and get someone who kind of, I just feel like for the general manager thing, I want someone with a lot of experience. pay someone a lot of money and get a really good debt. I want Scott Peole. Yeah, he's not a GM. I don't know.

36:00 Jake: And now it's like why not? I don't know. I didn't. I thought he was going to use that. Atlanta with Dimitroff who were. Both like disciples of Bello check from the Cleveland days. Okay. I might use my thoughts with the dad. See them went over. Over to New England with Bello check. And then he a a and and Capped guys, number guys. I want a guy who knows. Number guys who also left us a lot of number problems. I mean, look, I want like, I want someone who knows some. You've got a lot of space. You probably got some good picks like you could make a team. Right. I'm gonna I'm going to Spurs match with you Gareth. All right going This is not you're in a one. There's not your personal time to talk to my time. All right, so let's talk about Sancho We have our stats up. I do we both let me let me Let, let me explain what happened here I was so excited when Nick fo Nick Nick what the hell's his name Nick moles got hurt I was so excited cuz I got my Santa my life and Um, I said to you, he's going to be good. OK. Well, we can't take his job until next year, but OK. So we both. Well, if it looks like they're going to make the playoffs and Foles' timetable is like back for playoffs, we'll see what happens. OK, so we have put some things on the board. We actually have a board. We have a board. We have a white board, a big one. It's actually whiteboard paint. The whole wall is painted. Two of them, actually. And. You put your stats up what you thought Sanchez would do yards Interceptions touchdowns and fumbles. Yes, and I thought fumbles and I put yards interception touchdowns Rushing yards. Yeah, he got the rush. He got no rushing yards. He was negative rushing yards. He was kneeling. Yeah

39:00 Jake: But you wrote 176 passing yards. I wrote 284 and I think he had... 3-0 something. I actually have the box going for me. 332! 332. Um, I wrote one pick because he is Sanchez. You wrote two. He actually threw zero interceptions. Um, you wrote one touchdown. I wrote three. He had three in the middle. He had two, one. He had two. He threw the ball. He also, he had a third one that was overturned and the ball was spotted at the half yard line. The guy was, like was down and then they scored on the next play on a rushing play. Could have thrown three easy and you had a fumble. Yeah, he didn't fumble his Blaming was over a hundred It was the first time in his career that he had thrown for over 300 yards two plus touchdowns and no turnovers Okay, so you're saying because well, let's just keep this short. We have a whole bunch of crap to get to my Sancho So my Sanchi for the rest of the season. Yeah We need to make some sort of thing. How many games does he have left? He has six. Six or yeah, I think he has six left. They've already knocked him out. We're going to come up with some stat that we'll do before. We'll do a re-re-ve. They have seven games left? There's seven and two. They've already had their buy. They have seven games left. Seven games left. Okay, so we'll put up some stats, the next seven games. We'll include this game, total stats, and listen. Sancho, good. I just don't believe that the Chip Kelly system, which apparently will be the most copied system in the planet next year, Thank you for watching. If you could just take any old person and put them into the system because it's such Nick Foles is awesome. Okay, okay No, we have to do a podcast. Yeah, it's not about Nick Foll Well, we can do this app You can go on and on about Nick Foll in the podcast Let's get to the thing of pics 107 million by the way Averaged Nick Foll's average Let's get to the thing Let's get to the thing It's my fucking Sancho Fucking system. All right. Let's do the text. Every game except the AFC East against the spread. Oh, when I mean, how do you do? Oh, let's do that. So I won this week. I beat prior's riders. You beat him last week. So we just double teamed. We double teamed him. Stuff him. I took on this week. Double ducks double Decker sandwich Matthew and I beat him by two points But here's the thing yesterday guess who he had on his team

42:01 Jake: That was giving me fits last night the Eagles D who put a 31 points They were awesome of winning. I have now gone on the not one not two not three not four not Yes, five win. So I'm five game win streak. Five game win streak. I am actually, I think in in the running for the playoffs. This short six and four. I am seven two and one. Seven two and one. I'm just saying who you got this week. I got oh, I got Gareth. One of the worst people in the league. I love it. Oh, my playing this week. Playing Gareth. Let's see. Week 11. I am playing. Double Decker sandwich. Oh you playing the guy just beat. Yes. All right. Well, I'm gonna be playing Gareth. So hi Gareth gonna beat you Sit there jets. Everyone is happy. I know is cheering. Let's see. He's got well, he's got Gronk All right. All right. Let's go. So last week. I imagine I did terrible in pics about the back to being what it should be. 12 very nice only one loss good for you. I got an 8 and you got a 7 you are now at 63 I'm at 70 Over 10 weeks? That's good. You're probably winning money if you go to Vegas. Oh yeah, yeah. If you go to Vegas, if you didn't live in London. Let's... well, you can bet in London. Oh, by the way, I'm gonna make my picks on air because I have not made them yet. Me neither. I always make mine on air. It is Tuesday, so we're gonna be making things. It's a little early on Tuesday lines. And I might change it all. Let's go. Every game will save the AFC East for last, so we'll skip Thursday Nighter and go right... to Sunday night, Sunday, sorry, Sunday afternoon, 1 p.m., Chicago hosts Minnesota, Chicago, not good, favored by three and a half, give me points.

45:27 Jake: I don't know if they're gonna get enough juice to win. Okay, they are good players there. All right, is Gordon back yet? Next week, next week. It was, this is week 11. This is week 11. Week 12 is, he's back, so he's bac-n-treat, all right. Kansas City is hosting... Seattle I I expect them to That's good. He loves domes even nine and a half. So, uh, speaking of domes, New Orleans is hosting hosting Cincinnati and all in favored by seven. New Orleans to roll because they are pissed that they lost that game. Niners. They're not going to lose two in a row at home. And since he looks just terrible, since he got beat down that home and now to go into New Orleans, that's not easy. They'll win by more than a touchdown. Give me your own. the G-men and the Giants are home under Did we get the chance to go to this? Because this will actually be a fun game to go to. If I wanted to go to a game... Umm... We may have been given this chance. This is actually a game. I decided no Giants games for me this year. Yeah. Umm... Yeah, Giants for kind of tempting, but I think San Francisco is just too good for them. So give me the Niners. They're also getting back. All the Smiths. All the Smiths back. Look out Eli. Yeah, look out. Breathe through the nose Eli. Give me a sand friend. Alright. It's terrible. Really making fun of someone else's quarterbacks? Really? Really? Just making fun of the guy, not remember. Really? point. Talking to a giant fan today. I keep going alright. I was gonna say he's like very excited about how Eli's playing And I was like you know you've lost a lot of games in a row, right?

48:03 Jake: It's like he's not throwing any interception. I know even worse You losing, but you're not losing with your excited about your quarterback good Washington is hosting Tampa and giving seven and that is not a good team either of them So I'm just gonna take points Uh, no. Washington at home is a better team. They have more talent. I agree they're better teams. Neither team's very good. I know, but Washington will win. That's a lot of points for a bad team to be given. Tampa can't put together. Okay, any points. Last one o'clock. Another two bad teams. With the first pick in the 2015 draft. Tampa Bay selects. I think Oakland gets that pick. Oakland selects? Yeah, well, we're not up to them yet. Jaguars select. Carolina is hosting Atlanta. Carolina's favored by one and a half. They looked bad. Terrible. They have looked bad a lot. Oh, but it was painful watching Canada last night. I'm gonna pick them. Giving one and a half at home? Division game? Atlanta's not that good. They don't win on the road. They said give me give me a sit Cam Newton They might win this they're not gonna say they need to sit him. He looked terrible. He has said nine Time looked not right like Andrew. I land doesn't have a pass rush, but they can sack a guy Nine the eels get after you boy They're like how they play on offense, they play on defense. They're fast, they just get all over the place. I'm a big Carolina. So who are you picking? I'm picking Atlanta. OK. Off the bye. I got Carolina. Don't they have the bye? Bys don't mean anything to me. I don't think they are. I think they played last week. I think they beat Tampa in a really bad game. All right, 4 o'clock. San Diego is hosting Oakland and favorite by 10 and I think this is a Rebound game for San Diego who's lost a couple in a row So give me San Diego to win by more than 10 over the crappy Raiders. Yeah, I don't like big spread San Diego looked Terrible against Miami. What is with this league? It's all like these. I don't know guys are up and down and But they didn't play Miami this past week, San Diego. No, they played them two weeks ago and they got shut out. Yeah, and then they had their bye, and now they're have their bye, and they're gonna beat the crap out of the Raiders. At home. That'll be that. Okay, fine, I'll take Raiders. Good cover. I like that we have some differences here. Well, I like it because I'm generally doing better than you, so this is the ones I'd do better on. Generally, you're wrong. All right, I don't think you've ever been better in this league at the end of the year. I think you're probably right. Green Bay is hosting Philly. The is favored by five. So this should be a really fun game. What time is this? I'm riding the. Sancho. Gimme Philly. No way. Green Bay. Yeah, this is a 425. Green Bay is going to be... This will probably be the national Ford, Ford Coffee. That team is rolling. And then the last one of the day, in the day session, Arizona is home with their Drew Stanton hosting Detroit

51:05 Jake: and favored by 1 and 1 and 1 half. And they are really good at home. I don't care who the quarterback is. Gimme Arizona. I'll take Detroit. Okay, Calvin back. Yes, they do they're back to being a real team. They almost lost So Miami, which is a really good team. Well, Arizona's only the best team in the league. Yes Well, they're doing stand to stand and beat the Niners. Yeah this year. No starter. All right So I don't really care. Okay Carson Palmer was like the best quarterback in the universe. No, he's not But he's not playing. That's a good defense and a good system. I have one over two Monday or night night. Good. We've Pittsburgh well Sunday nights the frickin game. Okay. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about a minute. Yeah Yeah, well you should Pittsburgh is on the road in Tennessee And Pittsburgh's favored by five and a half and I like them to bounce back in a big way. So give me Pittsburgh in that game. Yeah, I don't understand how that is even possible. How what's even possible? Well, that's only five and a half. I don't know. It seems that... Oh, it's a night game on the road. I don't know. Alright. Alright, well let's get to the, that's our regular picks. Let's get to our throne picks. Throne picks. Alright, so two weeks ago, we didn't do these last weeks, we didn't do a podcast, but two weeks ago... Oh, did you hit all three? I hit all three because I had the Jets losing. Because you picked against the Jets. Right. Well that's because you suck. You only have one though. That's fine. Because I'm a true Jets fan. No. Jets. Just because you're dumbass. No. All right, so let's see. We have Buffalo at Miami on Thursday night. I know. That's fun. It is fun except for I have an event I have to go to. So I might be able to press the end of it. I'll be at a bar that'll have it up on the screen. I'm sure your wife will be watching. Yeah. Yeah, you'll be watching it. So, okay. Buffalo at Miami. Miami's giving five. I think that's stupid. I don't think that they're a good like home team. Like I don't think they're that much better than the Bills. And as a matter of fact, I think the Bills are going to win this game. Wow. I think the Bills will bounce back from this week's loss. Miami also lost, right? All right. They both lost. So I think the Bills... I just think the GEDS is the only AFC team that won this week. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. Um, I don't know, I just feel like the Bills are just tough. They're tougher than Miami. And... Like going there is not that big a deal. I don't think they have a really great home field advantage. So give me the bills 2316. Yeah, I mean, I still think the bills. I mean, what what about them? Good. They can run with who with any of their running backs.

54:04 Jake: Okay. Run. They've you know, Fred Jackson's back. Bryce Brown can run. I'm calling him Booby Gibson now, or Booby Dixon. He can run. Sammy Watkins is a serious weapon. Woods is a good wide receiver. They have good players. And their front seven is tops. You can't run on them. So I like them. This is gonna be a tough game. I might have the score too high. This score might really be... I might change it right. I am changing it. I have the Bills winning by seven, but I'm going down. I'm going to 17-10. Um... Yeah, I mean the only thing I know is that the Dolphins lost Albert for the season. Their left tackle their left tackle their high prize the number one thing the thing they spent their entire offseason grabbing he's out the season So I actually think that they might lose this game. I'm actually gonna change my score. I just did Boom, you just changed it on the fly. Dolphins lose Bills win By one point bills 20 dolphins 19. All right, and then I I'm thinking this is the game of the week either Kansas City Seattle or this game or the two best games this week Maybe this is a great Sunday. We have good games at every time slot. We have Seattle Kansas City at 1 o'clock We have Green Bay Philly at 4 and we have this on Sunday night. I mean Sunday's gonna be awesome money money. It's terrible Yeah But no jets. This is a really great day. So we have New England in Indianapolis and Indies favored by three, the classic home team favorite by three. Basically, it's it's manning against. Oh, wait. That's not that indie. Different indie,- different franchise quarterback for indie. Luck versus Brady. I just feel like Bell check coming off a by has had the appropriate amount of time to game plan the defense to play against Andrew Luck. And the luck is prone to making errors. He throws a lot of picks. He does. He makes a lot of things happen, but he's also willing to stand there and hold the ball and get balls tipped and sacked and. Tries to you know make things happen down the field. I don't think they're gonna be able to run on New England Maybe maybe that's the way to do it 3420 New England Wow you think new ones gonna win this game Yeah, this is a New England victory game They don't lose this game. Um, I don't know. I think it's the going to, it's going to indie piece that gets me a little bit worried. What's so worrisome about going to indie?

57:03 Jake: Um, Angelwalk is good. They play well at home. Tom Brady's great! Yeah, I don't know about that. He's got his grunk back! That guy is binky. The Bronch is gonky. Yeah, I think it'll be much closer. I actually see Indy winning. I just think that they're gonna... Again, Indy is sort of this weird team. I picked them to be in the Super Bowl, so I kind of... The only thing that would be better is if Indy lost this one, that in the AFC Championship type of thing. But I think they're gonna beat him. I think they're going to beat them. I think it's going to be high scoring back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, but at home, Sunday night, they're going to get pumped up. 3430 Indianapolis Colts. Winner winner chicken dinner. All right, kids. That's it for us. We are out. We will be doing a podcast next week, but it'll be a podcast about the... I guess reviewing this week and talking about something maybe if you're lucky since we won't be talking about a game that happened We might do some some grades Oh, I don't really know cuz really aren't they all F's pretty much Hey, who's the worst is our special team teams coach special teams have been terrible this year Getting better with Percy. Yeah, but the punting. He's the punting again on this game. What does the coach have to do with that? talent Finding the right guy and putting him on the field. I don't know if that's on the coach. I don't know if the coach could make the kicker kick theB.- Go Jets!