Ghost in The Hell

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Onan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.

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Machine transcript generated in 2026 by Grok Bot from the episode audio (Whisper small.en + sherpa-onnx speaker diarization). Speakers labeled Opening / Jake / Justin. Timestamps about every three minutes. Diarization note: HOST_LOCK: after Opening, host/welcome voice = Jake; other = Justin; host-welcome cluster=1 @ 28.4s → Jake; other-primary cluster=0 → Justin; intro-self-ID Jake confirms host; Justin name in host line kept on Jake (HOST_LOCK); Jason-ref Jake cluster 1 sim=0.33; WEAK clustering: dominant speaker share 91% (labels kept: host=Jake).

00:17 Jake: Welcome to Jet Gaming Podcasts, longest running New York Jets Podcasts. Justin: Ooooooh! Ooooooh! Scary ghosts! What? Jake: My name is Jake and joining me in his ghost outfit. I don't see ghosts. Yeah, you're seeing ghosts. I'm afraid no ghosts. We need ghostbusters up in here. Is Justin. Justin, how are you doing today? I'm good. I'm so not prepared for this. No shit. Okay, I am now getting more prepared for this. I was opening the... Get him, get him, get him, get him, get him. Alright, so let's get to the game that was... Oh, dude. Time. Because we're one in five. Oh, that's right. So here's a little story for you. So here's a little story. I'm sorry. three wise men in your so well. Some of them are on history. I used to listen to a lot of rap. So, here's a little story. I live in a building. You just happen to have the same building. I also live in a building. And I'm known as a big Jets fan because I wear Jets stuff all the time. And I was in much this year. And I got in the elevator. And someone who like, tangentially knows me like a neighbor, who knows me for a while, but like... I don't even know their name, but they know me Rhett. So time to fire the coach, right? And did you say yes? I'm like, yeah, of course, it's time to fire the goddamn coach. But like, that's where this is at. This is, we're already, we're at weed seven and we're talking like, we're at, we're at this guy's going to be fired. He is. I think so. I think I'm, but I'm actually super happy about it. This guy's like he's an absolute clown. That was a disaster on Monday night. Disaster. Disaster is sort of an Understatement for what occurred in front of us on Monday night. I was so aggravated I was Completely you're pissed. I was fucking pissed. You were pissed. I was pissed at the New York Jets. I was pissed and I was mad at every single individual who is on that field wearing a Jets jersey for being such a fucking embarrassment. I mean, we go to these games. Yes. We spend lots of our time, which is valuable. We spend lots of money, which is also valuable. And we root for this team that... fucking sucks and that's a shame because they shouldn't suck I do believe that the individual talent out there to compete they're just not doing it

03:04 Jake: and it's just annoying it sucks to see setbacks it sucks to see like this defense just fucking blow it sucks to see that quarterback seeing ghosts it just sucks this season sucks it's gonna get better now because the schedule is gonna get easier but that might actually make It worse, cause we might start losing to teams that we know we should be beating. Like the Giants. Like the Redskins. Like the Redskins. And the Giants. And the Jags. And the Jags. And all these pieces of shit that looking at us like oh good we get to play that piece of shit oh yeah which is the worst I hate being like the team that's looking like oh that's an easy game but they're also looking at it and they're be like haha the Jets that's an easy game I don't think the Dolphins or the Redskins are looking at it going no but the Jags are looking at it like they're chopping their bickering we're We're gonna go kick their ass like we did last year. Yeah, which by the way we're gonna talk about that running up the score. Yeah So let's talk about the game a little bit about about the football game that happened on Monday night Well, but let's let's put this in the top. Let's let's rank Oh nighttime Patches gesture disasters, they're all disaster, but I can think of three They're all disasters. There's the one that I don't actually know the game because we were we were away. This is one we were in san francisco Oh, yeah, that was a thursday night game. It was In the 2010 regular season. That's right. I I remember why lost 45 to three To the patriots on a thursday night. It was in their house in their house Brutal loss after beating them earlier in the year Then getting them back later. Yeah fine. I'm just going losses second one but fumble that's Famous Thursday night. No thanks giving that was another Thursday night Thursday night Thanksgiving night That was okay. And then this one. Let's call this the Monday night Massacre this was brutal which ones were so all those three ranked them I know this one's tight because it's super cold this one just happened. So it's like recency bias a little bit I don't I'd not even close for me. Um, the butt fumble was pretty fucking brutal. That's the worst one That's the bad one. The absolute worst Thanksgiving night. You're in like, you know, you just wanna like it's that Oh cool. Thanksgiving's not over cuz I have a Jets game. Thanks giving night at home, which is the one that's at home. And it's like super cool and then you're watching and within about a minute they scored 21 points and the game was over and it was one of the most embarrassing football memes for like three years running. Still is. Still played all the time. Well I know it's still played but like it was on loop for years. If we ever make it back to and play on Thanksgiving they will loop that for about an hour now. Oh yeah for sure. Yeah for sure. So that was number that's definitely number one number two brutal brutal

06:00 Jake: number two It's probably this definitely this I totally agree this had this had I Can get over like that that Thursday night beat and again this is recency bias I think like that was really fucking brutal that night and I remember Sanchez looking terrible and I remember throwing lots of picks and being turned over and pick sixes and fumble recoveries and shit you're talking about the the 45 35 3 and debacle but we still had like a good record we were like 9 and 3 after the game right and we knew that we were going playoffs And then we ended up seeing them again and kicking their ass in their building. So kind of made up for it. For that we'd have to rank all of our... Exactly. The chess games, but yes. But this one took the cake because it was very apparent from the start that they had 100% completely outcoached us from the first fucking whistle. Like... from from From their first drive where we won the coin toss and deferred which is the smart move. Yes You want the ball in the second half? Always again some Patriots fine Don't want them to have a second ball. No ball a second half But what did they do they come out and they run a flawless Flawless nine-minute drive touchdown. Yep, and we had a chance to get him off the field and we didn't Marcus may uncharacteristically missed a tackle and Just opened it up to them going right down the field and they scored and then we had the instant pick on like the second play and They score again with the field goal It came down at that point you're like we're not fucking coming back from ten points on the Patriots right now the way this looks and Then they never adjusted to things which was just crushing me because we were sitting there at the game and When he threw the first pick, you looked at me and you said, what was that? And I was like, who you're, I think you asked like, whose fault was that? And it was like, I can't tell because it was, it was a straight blitz right up the middle, like on a cover zero, no safety look. And someone came through and Sam tried to throw it hot off his back foot. And I don't know if the receiver didn't see it or... if Sam didn't see it or something was miscommunicated can't tell. In all likelihood that was Sam's fault. But then they sh- the next day there were a lot of breakdowns of what the Pats were doing to the Jets and it was all that same look. And I kept saying it and sitting there in the stands to you to the guy behind us I'm like they're running this same look at us on defense. Like every once in a while this cover zero blitz And I think they turn this over every time they ran it but it was so I mean that's where I just lost my mind

09:00 Jake: It was obvious staring at it and I'm turning around to the guy behind me and I'm hitting him I'm like they're running that defense again watch and then what we do we threw a pick right there on that play It was like the third pick of the game or whatever. I'm like Why? Why can I see this from the 200 level? Yeah. Of the stadium and nobody down there has a fucking clue. All these people are paid a lot of money. And I don't know, I mean I pretend to know a lot about football and I think I watch the game like in an interesting way. I think I see a lot of what happens. Like all over, right? I'm not just watching the ball and watching lots of things at the same time, but... I'm not a professional at this shit. I don't know how to like study tape and really break down keys and all that stuff, but You gotta be able to do that. Come on. Ultimately that is on I mean Obviously, there's that's the nice thing about football is that You can you can spread it around you can spread it around on the offensive coordinator You can spread it around on the on the head coach. You can spread it around on the Sub coordinators are up there with the with the offensive line coach. You should be fucking fired You can spare around to the you can spray onto them to the Why receivers who are not running the hot plays or the or the running back who didn't turn around you can spread it Don't you can give it a lot of it to the quarterback heat because ultimately He is He's responsible for for what the defense is doing. He was chucking the ball off his back foot into dangerous places Against a team that you don't do that again So you don't do it against any team, but you definitely don't do it It's Patriots because they're going to turn this team is Extremely remember when I said like there's so good There's the there's the teams that like get the bounce ups and they catch it and there's a team that don't wear the team It doesn't catch the four interceptions everything every single one and they take it to the house because they practice the shit out of it and they They and and and they embarrassed bill bellchek came into that stadium with the with all Intense all of his intentions were to embarrass us and he did it and he did it and he took pleasure in it Oh, god fourth quarter. Did you see what he does? I know that such pleasure in many 55 with Adam Gace I mean, I'm sure Adam Gates didn't give a fuck. He's like, let the fucking clock go. Right. Like he should have just kept declining the fucking penalties and just let the clock go to zero if that's what they wanted to do. But he's literally sitting there laughing at this loophole in the rules that he understands that definitely no one else does. Right. Because he knows the rule book like backwards and forwards. That's how he figures out like how to cheat before it's actually cheating. I'm cheating. It's not cheating if it's a loophole. And he admitted on the presser. He's like, look, they'll probably close this next year, but whatever. Close now. And remember when he, when he like figured out how to line up a tackle, like as a receiver, like they close that up too. But he's like, fuck you and your rule book, cause I'll keep finding ways to fuck with you until you figure it out. And it just, it just works for him. And you know he hates the Jets with such a passion that he wants to just kill us at every moment

12:06 Jake: We've now played them twice. We're done with them. Thank God Our defense scored a touchdown our special teams scored a touchdown and our offense didn't Our offense scored zero points against the Patriots in two games. Yeah. Oh you turn both games I was like, when did you see a defense and of it? Yeah, no and not at this we lost 63 to 14 to the Patriots who's here and the 14 points were scored by the special teams and the defense Oh, by the way, the defensive touchdown was against a backup quarter bats, right? So really we didn't do shit against the Patriots now the measuring stick for us. We are if it's a yard stick, we're at the one inch line. That's right. And we're nowhere. We are what our record says we are. God damn right. Going to that game better than the shitty fucking dolphins. Going to that game, staying like, oh, we have a chance. There's a bubble up. Guys, what? The bills are good. Bills are pretty good. They have a shot. They're going to, doesn't it? Like they played the pads pretty fucking tough. They did. And they win games. And they win games. Alright, so let's pick your fool of the game. Just pick anybody you want. I don't even care. Fool of the game. How about Sam Darnold? Sure. I mean, kind of, this has to go on him. What do you think about the whole mic'd up thing? The fact that, so I read a little about it. It's super weird that It's NFL films who decides what's okay and not okay. It's not ESPN. To go to like, what's okay to go like on the broadcast. Yeah. Because they give it to them. They say, here's the piece you can go play. Go, you can play this. And it's not up to ESPN or the NFL to censor that. It's NFL film. I didn't even see the clip. I didn't see it either. He comes, I think he comes back to the sidelines and he goes, I'm seeing ghosts out there. And he says to the coaching staff, I'm seeing ghosts out there. Now. With that said, I have zero problem with it whatsoever. No, not at all. Not even close. A ton of former quarterbacks. Brett Favre came out yesterday and came to his defense. And he was like, I used to walk first, second, third, fourth year. I used to walk over the sidelines saying Mike Holmgren. I'm seeing ghosts out there. He's like, I would use those words. That is a term that we use as quarterbacks. Don't make fun of this guy. That's locker room talk, whatever, that probably shouldn't have never been on TV. I don't care that it made that TV. Yeah, I don't care if it made TV. And the way that he handled it yesterday, Sam, was awesome. Did he come out on a ghost outfit? No, but he did like a 10 or 12 minute presser where they were asking him about it for like eight minutes and then finally someone asked him about the game and he's like, oh good, we can talk about the Jaguars now, because that's who we're playing. Right. and he handled it perfectly. So good on him, good for being savvy, good for taking it on himself. He'll get better. And you're gonna have these games. Dude, your first year, second year, he still, he still hasn't started 16 games. No, he hasn't started an entire year. That's right.

15:00 Jake: A full slate. So like, he's still young. And he's actually like young, meaning he's only 22, but age-wise he's like two years younger than some of the guys that were in his class because they were seniors, he was junior. He's 22. Right, he's 22. Some of those guys are 24. So big difference. I don't care about the mic'd up thing. No, I just say we were having a fan... I mean it's funny, it's hilarious. It'll be another one of those stupid things. You just have a ghost emoji in response to things. Until we win anything, you're gonna have to take the shit. You're gonna be the laughing saw until you win. I just...the thing that bugged me... you know, again, from the beginning of the game was that lining up and then just doing the same thing that didn't work and just keep doing it it's like, that's the definition of insanity is is doing the same thing and expecting a different result every time nothing was working I mean, at times I felt bad because Like there were some nice plays that were made like Sam made a really nice throw To like to Mary's Thomas on a third down like down the sideline just fucking drops it Yeah, like really in his hands are you still playing for that other team seriously? Like what are you doing? Like you gotta understand that you can't make one mistake against the Patriots even a drought You know you have to play you have to play perfect absolutely perfect Justin: in order to win. Jake: You're going to lose. But yeah, this was a... this is a... listen, if I want to turn the leaf over and look at the... this game is a test. To me, this is a test. Like this season now is just a series of tests. It's not a test of whether we can go to playoffs. We failed that. It's not a test of whether we can have winning... record, we're not gonna have a winning record. This is a test to see who shows up, who gets better, and this is a test on Sam. Sam, you just had the worst outing you've ever had, statistically probably one of the worst outings of any quarterback, you know, up there. His rating was 3.6. I know I've seen zeros. Oh, there's been zeros. There's been zeros. But like from a guy who played. We've seen zeros. Yes, I've seen Patrick. Peter not Peters Peter man Peter I've watched Gino throw up a zero yes like it off I've seen him throw up a zero right I've seen Chris Patrick the three picks in a in a fourth quarter and lose the game here's the thing I now want to see how he rebounded he rebounded yeah again is he going up against the Patriots defense the next week no that'd be super cool if he was cuz it'd be like let's see if you could do it again like let's come back learn something so I He's got a show to me on Sunday. Again, it's away and it's not again, it's a great defense, but they're a defense. They're real. The Jags? Justin: They're real. Jake: They're not like playing the Dolphins or the Redskins where you just walk up the field. No, no, the Jags are real. I mean, they've got a player. And it's going to be away. Real defensive line. So this is it. You want to see, and the game was the offensive AFC player of the week, the week before.

18:01 Jake: And then he's the dog shit. Right. So now we just see where do you go? Do you keep going down? Where's the spike in this stock? I just want him to get to a point where he's playing consistent, right? I think that that In order for that to happen he needs consistent reps. He needs consistency with Again, who's up in front of him? I mean that that just is so inconsistent. We started That guy a doga. Yep at left tackle and move shell back to the right. Now shell's a mess regardless. And now you've got a third round rookie playing left tackle and they were not prepared to block anything the Patriots were throwing at them. From any direction so like I was watching one of the breakdowns that someone was doing Because you know with the whole seeing ghosts thing and they were really breaking down that cover zero that that zero high safety Look that the paths were throwing at us and I can't remember who it was. It was on the NFL Network. I think they were they were showing what was happening up front Yeah, and it was like Look how lost the Jets are. He's like, Sam Darnold might have been seeing ghosts, but so were the offensive linemen, because he's like, look at these two offensive linemen. They're blocking nobody. And then it's like, hey, look at those two guys on the Patriots. Those two guys are free blitzing. there are numbers two guys to match up against those other two guys and they just didn't like know where to go like they were seeing ghosts too so kind of garbage um all around everybody from top to bottom i can't imagine that the paths did not show this look all year That covers zero. Oh, they had to have shown it you must have seen it on tape and to me that's just a complete lack of preparation and a complete lack of ability to actually Execute on whatever it is. So let's just check the fire ometer Yeah, and being an absolute firing as soon as fucking possible zero being he's the greatest coach ever Where are you on the fire ometer? only I'm only not at a 10 because... You don't want him fired this season. In season. I just don't want him fired in the middle of the season. You want him clean up. Because you said 10's like ASAP. So I'm at a 9 then. You're a Black Monday, he's gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because here's what I don't want to have happen. Because if he's fired, so is the offensive coordinator. Yep. They're tied at the hip. They're both out. Yep. So then who's running the offense and who's... Guiding Sam and I don't know but at this point. Do you really want this guy? Here's the thing I knew that that was gonna be the comeback question somebody with some experience needs to be Guiding Sam. What are you seeing on the field that you think that there's anything even remotely?

21:01 Jake: Nothing. Nothing at all, but Remember, you can't really go reach out and grab somebody from some other team. So whoever's there, like they're the ones who are coaching Sam anyway, so you're gonna ask someone to step up two levels in responsibility. Quarterbacks coach is really the guy who's with you the most. But that's also the Alphrons of Coordinator. No I think we have an actual quarterback coach. No, Darrell Loggins is both for us. He's tied to gaze. So if gaze goes Logan's goes you don't even have anyone to coach offense like who would coach offense? The receivers coach the running back coach and offensive line coach like that's what you get with this It's a solid point. So like yeah, Greg Williams can step up and be the head coach fine But she's done he's done a lot of pleasure. Good. Good. He's on that. You lose your defensive coordinator And you've lost your offensive coordinator. So what the fuck's happening with the team then? It's a little weird. I'd prefer to just stick the year out. No, he sucks. Just no, he sucks. Prove it over the course of one full season. Finish wherever the fuck we're gonna finish. And if he surprises you, fine. If he doesn't, great. Easy fire gone. Oh easy easy easy easy fire and as far as I'm concerned Greg Williams could go to the whole staff Yeah, I just I'd hand it over to Joe Joe pick a guy and let them bring in their people. That's right. Let's go Let's go. All right. So let's get off this fucking game. God. I was just brutal Really bad. The thing is like I almost get over I'm always almost over now. No, the next day was pretty bad. I I've gotten better at not getting so upset about it by the time we got home It was great. We left early. Uh, we left at half time. We missed Kevin Mwai's halftime thing. That was so bad of us. I was pissed when we were leaving because I was like fuck we missed that Kevin Mwai thing. Oh, so brutal. Sorry, these injuries. Uh, so I'm looking a big one. So well, no, I'm I'm not I'm actually I have the injury report in front of me. You're missing a big one. Osemaelie didn't practice. Mosley out. Osemaelie's out. Yeah, gone. I'm just looking. Cannon didn't practice. I'm talking like this week right now. Beecham did not practice. Here look. I'm looking. Khalil limited. Yeah, he heard himself. I don't care. Yeah, but is he out? Out? He don't care. Could be gone. Really? Yeah, he sucks. Let Jonathan Harrison play. All right. Who's the big one for you? Mosley. Oh, Mosley's out for the season. Yeah, that was a terrible miscalculation They did what they did to luck in the preseason where they're like it's a this and they put it in the Then they turned out it was no much more. It's not a groin What free agent is gonna fucking sign here? Do you know what's gonna be? You know what's gonna be it's gonna be a sports Ernie and that guy's gone for fucking what free agent is coming here All right. I stepped away from the microphone But like, Osemaly is pissed because we misdiagnosed him. How do you put me back on the fucking field? I know I wanted to

24:06 Jake: That one, that one, I don't know, I'm not a doctor. I don't know if it's easy. I'm just saying if I'm a free agent, and I'm looking around the teams, I'm like fuck you, Jets. You want this guy assembly to play, he needs surgery. You just have to pull the fucking ear, because you threw him in the face, because you threw him in the face. You know, If you know, we had a They actually a Good. Um the Yeah, we're fucked and it looks like now like off-season moves. Jesus Christ There's this was our big guy. So we have Bell was being completely wasted. He's wasted It's I just want a year of wasting Bell. You've wasted another miles on the mile and you're talking about moving moving Robin Robin rumors that right Eagles That's the rumor right cuz Joe is right because Joe is right the Eagles who's a similar player it's better, more talented but similar was but very very similar was but very very very similar was run straight down the field we're gonna throw it to you. Here's my only thing about the whole clean house thing is and because this will be and I've seen this happen to young quarterbacks this will be then it would say we clean the house get rid of gays it's then Sam's third year third different system third different offensive coordinator third different quarterbacks coach third different head coach it's not good yeah that's not good but what's what's worse Sticking with a bad that's worse. Yes, it's worse. That's way worse. You know what happens then You just learn the bad habits over and over and over and over and you just get worse It's the innovators dilemma, right? What if you you just stick with what you got because it's kind of like we don't want to upset the apple cart well Seven people just passed you Yeah, I just I just think it's just anyway. All right, so let's get off that What other news we have in the in the round the round the horn? Around the horn around the horn. Well, my home's got hurt Yeah doing a quarterback sneak on that Thursday night of last week and he's gonna be out for three four weeks Yes, that would be interesting to see if the Chiefs can keep up. I feel like the Patriots are kind of running away with this shit. I feel like I'm really trusting anybody to like have a backup, like a guy who can find the right guys to be a backup. I don't know who the backup in the. The Chiefs is. Who is it? It's the guy Chase Daniels. Oh, alright. It's the guy who's like kind of been in that like Chiefs Eagles, that Andy Reid system. That's the thing. It's Andy Reid's very good. He's one of the things we do. Is it Chase Daniels? No, no, no the Chiefs are Matt Moore.

27:01 Jake: Chase Daniels is the Bears. Good old Matt Moore. Because the Bears, the Eagles, the Chiefs, they kind of all run the same shit. Yeah. So that guy Chase Daniels is like bounced between all three of them. Matt Moore couldn't win you. If you have to do three games he could win you one of the three. Maybe. Maybe two. The Chiefs offense though again is really good. So like people could... That's good because of... It's not because it was good with Alex Smith. Like, it's a good offense and it has good players too. Like, it has a really good offensive line. It has Hill who could just get open. It has Kelsey who could just get open. So, it makes life easier when you have receivers that can just get open. It's nice when people can just get open. Yeah. uh... as opposed to uh... as go anything else on the on the docket that seems as bills you were talking about a little bit they look good dolphins look just terrible to watch them actually uh... they come in there and bills and ran up on them uh... Yeah, the bills are good. We were talking about Josh Allen and you don't think he's good and I do. That was the first game I actually thought, oh, he actually completed some really good passes. You know what no one's talking about? And just because I just beat the bottom dwellers? The six and oh forty-niners. Everyone's talking about the forty-niners. No, it's kind of people here. Now they are. NFL people are talking about the niners. And I think one of the smartest moves and best signs ever. Listen bring in Teddy Bridgewater that trade with us. Yes that got he's for the Sino. It was a very good move They knew the Saints knew that they are Super Bowl team and if they're starting quarterback went down They could still be a Super Bowl team if they had a quarterback to play quarterback. He's Probably the best backup in the league. He's definitely the best backup because he's a star he's a star Right, he's a star. He's a starter who got hurt and he's only 26. So he was like, you know what? Probably a smart move to just chill here behind this 40 year old soak up whatever he knows He's one of the best ever. He'll be gone in two years I'll be 28 sitting pretty in New Orleans here with this really good team and a good offense that I know Cuz I'll have been in it for three years like Good move, Teddy. It was good. Why go try to start for the Jaguars? You know what I mean? Like, like that, I think Teddy made a smart decision for himself. Alright, last week in the JK fantasy league I got my ass handed to. I scored 57 points against, uh, uh, I'd never go full turned in, which is kind of funny. Um, and you, oh my god, did you beat someone 38 to 22? How is score? I said a thing! 13-22! You're one of the points... Yeah, maybe I got a good defense! You had the second lowest score in the league, and you won against the only less score. That's pretty good. Against Rocky Morte. That's all fantasy luck right there. Oof. Geez, this week... Let's see, who am I playing this week?

30:00 Jake: This week, I am taking on Big Cat Little Cannon. was already at 13 points on me because he had to make a defense. I don't think I have to say anybody and you are taking on... Who are you taking on? I don't know. Never go full-hearted. Oh, I have to figure out the names. Oh Brian Bogdonsky. You're going down, Brian. Have fun. And in the standings here on our... can never play anybody but jet i'm slowly moving down your we're both four and three our division's really good the other division's bad yeah i've been i've been getting better owen's doing well five and two fuck him i beat him already yeah well then then we got marshall fall at the bottom fuck you owen's all right so let's get to let's get to our picks how'd we do last week for the jig i don't pick them I have it right in front of me and you actually on week seven did pretty bad you got seven And guess who's back on the top that'd be me On the top and you're you're a good eight behind me, which you could make up. I am gonna make up Let's do it. You're dropping like a drop of my thighs. All right. Did you pick last night? Yes, I did Did you get it right? Yes, it did. I got it wrong. All right 16 points too much Washington. They're so bad. They ended up playing that the Haskins in the second half I don't know how Minnesota didn't just run this out. Yeah, well 19 9 they didn't cover the good Kirk cousins been playing the last four weeks It's been like one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Yeah, he's up and down there and they're winning bad Whatever anyway, all right. Well that game happened So we're picking every game. We're picking every game against the spread We're not gonna talk about the AFC East because we'll talk about those games little little like not much Yeah, a little bit more depth afterwards we break and These will pick against the spread like I said, all right, so last night you got it right i got it wrong minnesota was uh... hosting washington and they were favored by sixteen they won nineteen nine sixteen so one by ten uh... alright so here we go how many four o'clock one two three alright three and Nothing good. Yeah, but the four o'clock. Yeah. All right, let's go. Let's go one o'clock. Let's do it. See ya Seattle's at Atlanta This is off. There's no line. I think that's a Matt Ryan thing probably so I'm just gonna pick Seattle Absolutely. Just pick Seattle and with no line, right? That's like three points free Yeah, take it because the line is probably more than I mean Seattle would be favorite. I would think yes I don't know why they didn't just put Seattle plumbing. I can go look what the actual line is. Yeah, I can open up DraftKings and see what it is. No, no, no. I just go to the... Because there's another league we're in that you don't... They never put on no lines. They always put a line. There's always a line? Always a line. Yeah, that one... It might be a pick-up. Right, but never an off.

33:00 Jake: Like this is an off on in a Yahoo. Right, but that's like a Vegas thing. That's what I mean. Like you can't bet this. It's three and a half. Okay, that's the real line. That's the real line. Alright, so that's what I'm saying. Like this you're getting three points. If you really wanted to bet eight, yeah, we're getting three and a half free points here. We're totally getting off. Actually means you can't bet this game. Exactly. Right. Correct. Vote. You can pick it. It's so stupid. Yeah, it's dumbasses. All right. Moving right along. Moving right along. We will skip that one because it includes an AFC East team and we will go to Chicago. Hosting the Chargers of LA, Chicago is favored by four. all the way down from five and a half. I like Los Angeles. I know they're in a little bit of a little spoon here, but Chicago's quarterback doesn't look very good. Talk about a fan base that's like up in arms. They were booing him. He's, what, is there a third year? This is his. Third season so here's the thing they they picked him Second overall they moved up moved up from three to two to grab his guys Trubisky right when Deshaun Watson was still on the board Yep, and Deshaun went like later like maybe tenth something like that and my homes went like 13th. They all went in the top 15, but Mitch was the first one. And by all accounts, you'd want either of the other two. Right. Justin: Right? Jake: Yep. Like, just give me either of those guys, because Mitch is running the same offense that my homes is running, and my homes looks quite a bit more comfortable. And Watson can pretty much do anything on a football field. So, anyway, I'm gonna take the Chargers here, and I'll take the four. Um, I'm just, I was writing down the scores. I am definitely taking the Chargers, thanks. Okay. Detroit is hosting the Giants. Detroit is favored by seven, and I just think that's all. Maybe like 1.2 much. No, that's not too much. That's perfectly fine. I just don't think they're that good. In Detroit, Giants are not a good team. They're not going to go on the road and do anything. They're going to lose by more than seven. I'll take Detroit. Never know. All right, Tennessee is... That's why I'm leading this thing. And have for years. Fair enough. Tennessee is facing Tampa at home. So Tennessee is favored by two and a half? I like Tennessee. And then no, I'll take Tampa Bay. Okay. By the way, I know the team that drafted high quarterback that's now looking like, fuck. Well, both of them, by the way. Both of them. downhill and... No, no, no, no. And Marietta are both quarterbacks. Oh, it's actually, this is the one-two game. So we're in their fifth season. This is the year where you sort of have to make the decision. They voted. Well, Tennessee's made a decision. They just benched him. And Tampa gave Winston, I think, a three-year extension. Right. Let's play a little game. Okay. Bloop! Five years ago. We have time for this. Yeah, we tested it. Bloop! Five years ago. Draft. Yes.

36:01 Jake: Who you taking? I would have taken Marietta. I know I said that back then. Back then. Now it's five years later. You have all this knowledge, but you get to go in a time machine five years back. Who you taking? Of those two yeah Can I say nobody you could can I say say I'm gonna draft the best available player that's not a core I'd love to look at the draft board and just pick someone else. I'm sure there's like an amazing player one of them I Just don't really let me let me change the question Let me change the question. I'm not sure it's all him. Phone rings. Yes. Okay. You are the general manager of... They played this game on another podcast. Yeah, did they? You're the GM of Tampa. Justin: Yeah. Jake: Hey, GM of Tampa. I'm the GM of Tennessee. I'd like to trade you, Mariota, straight up for Winston. Which one am I? You're Tampa. Who says no basically? No, I think at this point. Who says no if it's a one-to-one trade who says no? I think Tampa Bay says no. Tampa says no. We're good with Winston. I think Tampa Bay at this point with these two players the way they're playing this year Mary Winston is playing better than Mariota this year but there's been years where it's been flip-flopped yeah so like I think their first year I think Mariota did much better than the second year I think it was he had like a he had a big software dive and I think Winston looks really good and then like it's sort of a shame with Mariota Mariota needs to be in a system like Lamar Jackson is in maybe cuz Lamar looks great right now right But maybe we'll just catch up with him in terms of the league because he's got the coordinator who coordinated that 49ers offense when Colin Kaepernick was running it. They're very similar Lamar and Kaepernick right? More runners than throwers but they can throw which makes them really dangerous both of them. But eventually that offense was figured out. That Greg Roman offense. It did not work in Buffalo with Tyra Taylor. Nope. And I don't know how long it's going to work in Baltimore. But I think Mariota, if he were put in a style that used his actual talent as opposed to being like, No, you're going to be a pocket passer. Why? He's not. Well, he always gets hurt a lot running around. So... Anyway, that was just a funny... At this point... this point I would again the way they're playing right now besides some have if you said who needs I want to start the game tomorrow which one is to say I'm gonna win the game tomorrow I think Winston's playing better ball today but again they're both so inconsistent that I want no can I get can I get neither one of them you can get neither one I think I'm on the same boat as you I my preference would be Winston Yeah. But I don't know if I'd want either of them as my starting quarterback. I don't think so. I'll take either of them as a backup though. I think they'd both be very good backup players.

39:02 Jake: And I would even dare say I don't think I'd want either of them starting over second year Sam Darnold. No, right now. Well, at this point we're looking at it's like Kevin. No, even like right now. Like right now I think Sam is just as good if not better than both of these guys. I know Mario does want a playoff game. I know that right and I say that knowing that but I don't think either. I know if that's true, but okay. All right, I Can't see that bias. I have see that I have Tampa Bay. Okay Indie is hosting Denver and Denver sucks Indies favored by six. I got India Yeah, andy all the way at home. Give me the brisket chubs out for the year, by the way Really? For Denver and Joe Flacco apparently not the answer a quarterback who would have thought no Okay Talk the trades my god. Oh, yeah. Well here they are the Rams. Yep the Traders would be your jose trader and and you can ask me the question now the Rams are hosting since II The Rams are favored by- Well maybe we did discuss it, didn't we? Or did we do it offline? We did it offline. We didn't actually do the chat here. The Rams are favored by 13 at home against Cincy. The Rams haven't been playing that well, and this is one of those weird ones where Cincy's got that head coach that's out of the McVeigh tree, so maybe he's got a couple little things up his sleeve for McVeigh. I just don't think this is a 13 point game. I think it's probably closer to it. 10, 11, totally agree. I'll take Cincy as well. Yeah. But the Rams made that trade. So two first rounders. We made a lot of trades. Two first rounders. Well they traded away their... They traded away Marcus Peters, which was a corner. Starting corner. To the Ravens. To the Ravens, correct. And then they traded four Ramsy. Jalen Ramsey from the Jags. And they gave them two first rounders. Two firsts. One next year, one the year after. Consecutive seasons. I think that's an absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. I agree. I think you're giving up the future, you're giving up what will be in three to four years a very serious bad teams, or you will be a bad team for years to come for this one, because you're literally saying to do that for two years, you're literally saying This is it. They also, they also left- We have everything we need but wait there's one piece. They just put this one piece in there. They've left no room for themselves to do anything about it either. Like, meaning they have to pay golf. They've already paid girly. Yep. They've got a couple other guys on that team that get paid, Aaron Donald. Yep. How you gonna pay this guy? Like you can't, and then you got these number ones that are not yours anymore. Like where's the talent come from? Because Gurley's kind of done, and you're paying him. He's got that good, and you're paying him.

42:01 Jake: Like you better win the fucking Super Bowl this year. Rams. Yeah, no, you have to in Super Bowl this year cuz otherwise you're fucked and then if you gave up a 30 second pick Yeah, who cares? That you actually don't care Precisely, it's basically it's expensive second round. Yes. I Don't think again if you ask me Anybody on the team would you trade for two first rounders as a as anybody but Sam? If you were to say to me, okay, so hey New York Jets, you get two first round picks from the Rams, from the Rams, right? Like somewhere in the 20s perhaps. Maybe better, maybe worse, and it's two years worth, so that's nice. You'd have two first round picks in the next two years. Yep, and you could bundle some of that up. So you want to swing the year before over this year and then go up as high as you want to go. Maybe swing up to maybe even the first overall pick. Who knows, right? Because the Jets pick is going to be pretty good. you would think. It is. So you say you would trade anyone on the team except for Sam Darnold. It's the only person I would, so I would give up Adams. Like if you said, would you give up Adams for two first rounders? Yes, absolutely. The only person I wouldn't is Sam, just because I feel like you don't. There is you can see all these quarterbacks and there's sometimes you just go in you have we don't know enough to know and I think He is a once in a lifetime. I believe he is a once in a decade type of quarterback Who's gonna go through ups and downs? But I think we will look back in four to five years if we put the right people around him and protect him that That we made one of the greatest things that ever happened. I think that's the way it's gonna go That's my prediction. So I don't want to give that up for two first rounders. I said nothing I'm gonna go the other way. Yeah? I would do it for any player. Any player on the team. Wow. Any single player. If you're gonna give me that level of equity in the draft, I'm gonna give you whatever you want. Even Sam, man. Even Sam, cause I'll just draft another quarterback cause I know I'm in a clean house with my coaching staff. Yeah. So I may as well just go fresh. from the quarterback all the way on up. And it's where I hire basically like do what Arizona did. It's what the dolphins are doing. The dolphins just cleaned house, they'd given up anybody. It was good if you have $5 value. Yeah, like tonsils, like here, take them, whatever. Here you go. But then, because then you get to build up all that equity in the draft and you pick your next quarterback, you do that. You pick Lineman you you you you're able to do a lot So I think I would give up anybody for two first for consecutive year first round picks So I would have four first round picks in two years or maybe bundle up to get to like all the way wherever I need To be Yeah, I would do it for anybody Wow. Yeah, Sam love there. It's not it's nothing against Sam. It's just Two first round picks is on him. Remember what he cost us. He cost us moving up three picks in a second rounder. We gave up, yes, we moved up, but what we gave up, we gave two first rounders.

45:03 Jake: Two second rounders. Two. Tars and one other one that we... Two second rounders. And moved up three spots. Yeah. Right. To get the three to get it. Right. So... to get back to firsts I think you did good there. If you're just doing straight up yes. Yeah I think on the value chart. Well remember they let's call them 20s. Doesn't even matter. It doesn't matter the player Adams if because right now like the most valuable jet is Adams. He not Sam it is Adams. That's true. Adams is the best jet. But sent but but quarterbacks are harder to get them understood but I just draft another run this coming year's draft class has done pretty good years of that and it doesn't do very good you get a Christian Hackenberg you get a marks on chess all right keep going come on all right well we didn't actually pick any yeah okay move on pick since Alright, New Iowans hosting Arizona. New Orleans favored by 9 and a half. I pick New Orleans, but I kinda wanna change my mind, but I'm gonna stick with it. Actually, I'm gonna go to Arizona. I think they're this weird up and down team. They're bad, but they sometimes can play okay. I'm gonna pick Arizona for it. Yeah, I kinda wanna do that too, but I'm not. All right, four o'clock. San Francisco's hosting Carolina. San Francisco favored five and a half. I got San Francisco. Yeah, and that's not enough. How about that quarterback situation in Carolina? where your backup is doing better than camp well that's one of the big trade rumors where cams just like, yeah fuck it camp to the steelers is one of the big trade rumors steelers should do it if they can get them for anything less than like they just gave up their first for minka kelly or whatever that's what I mean if they can get them for anything like minka fits patrick minka fit patrick if they can get them for anything less than a first then they should totally do it but I don't see them trading camp for anything less than what Ramsey just hauled in well, that's the thing like with like Ramsey just set this crazy trade value The only thing about him is that he doesn't make money yet Who it be like it'd be like us trading Jamal right like Jamal super valuable cuz he doesn't make money. That's true So it's like you're getting lambs make you're getting an all-pro safety for like Did. Me too. All right. Houston is hosting Oakland. Houston's favored by six and a half. I like Oakland. Yeah, I like Oakland too. I don't know why. That seems like an odd pick for me, but I'm gonna stick with it. Uh, Sunday Night Game that looks way better two weeks ago than it does right now. Uh, Green Bay at Kansas City. I think they favored on the road four and a half. It's Matt Moore at Green Bay.

48:22 Jake: Really? It's Matt We need the score, it's like multi-mile. I'll just read them out to you. So what do we got first? Buffalo is hosting Philly. Oh, you got that one first? Okay. Well, that's the one. Buffalo is hosting Philly. Buffalo is favored by one and a half points. Buffalo a favorite. It's Philadelphia at home. How about that? Buffalo's good man. Their defense is good. Their offense is better than you think. They run the ball up your ass. The quarterback makes big plays at big times. He's a pretty good player. I like Buffalo. I like him to win this game. I just don't think Philly's gonna be able to cover like John Brown out there. I don't think it's gonna happen I think I think they'll be able to be a kind of want to take a shower I think Buffalo's gonna win this game too. I don't know. Where is it that you think that Philly's so good? I got a good defense. I don't I think I think Buffalo's defense is gonna shut them down and it's gonna be sort of a weird game 21 13 Buffalo I call it 28 21 Buffalo Definitely cover but yeah, I don't see Philly going very far with that. So I'll say no. I'll be a no for you Okay Alright next one We got we got New England hosting Cleveland this will probably be like the national four o'clock game That's good. I'm a fun to watch. Yeah, we can watch Baker look like shit against the Pats the Pats are favored by 13 and I like the Pats to win. I see no reason. I like the past to win. Yeah and cover and cover I- so before we were- it was funny like before the JET game I was sitting there thinking to myself I was like okay so the first time we played the Patriots they scored 30 points if our defense can play a little bit better than that maybe like hold them to one less score that'd be 23 all right that's a little low for the Patriots Now we have to score more than 23 to beat the Patriots and that's the best defense on the planet right now That has allowed we can't they have they barely allowed 20 points this year. We can't score 24 on them How are we gonna win this game and I was thinking in my head? I'm like we're not but I'm just gonna say it on the podcast that we will of course I'll use the same logic with the Browns The Patriots are gonna score 30 points every single week

51:15 Jake: defense I totally agree. I'll give you an extra kick because they'll drive it down and with two minutes ago They'll hold the ball and because they're dicks They'll kick the field goal just to go up by 33 and I'll give I'll give Cleveland the move down the ball They have enough they have talent around them. I think it's 33 13 Pat's all right Then we have the money night Well now I'm skipping to Monday. Monday Night Football! Now we're Monday Night Football! So, Pittsburgh... By the way, let's just talk about this Pat's game. Yeah. So now this is a nice fun back-to-backer. You have to watch See What Baker and... You know he's going to do better because you can't do worse. Can't do much worse. You can't do five picks and three fumbles and have a 3.2. He will do better. The question is, are you going to look at him and go... Oh, because it's gonna happen for the rest of their lives and well until one of them's out of the It'll just be fun to watch like what he can do. He has more talent around him than the oh, yeah There's no Odell back and his line is better like even though it's not a great line It's still better than our line our lines like literally from like you and I could go play line So that that's gonna be fun. I hope that is the full actually I could go look I might go look right now See it probably is I mean it's at 425. So I imagine it's there's only one other game at 425 It's the Raiders CBS early would be us CBS late Cleveland yes that's great but if you look at if you look at the Patriots just all year long right they beat the Steelers 33 to 3 they beat Miami 43 nothing they beat us 30 to 14 they beat the bill 1610 that's how you know the bills are real yeah They beat Washington 33-7. They beat the Giants 35-14. Okay. They beat us 33-0. They're gonna put up 30 points. 33. And you're not gonna put up more than 14. Pretty much. They're not gonna put up... How do you do that? You gotta cut a score from them and you gotta put up two more? Like that's... It's just the math is just not there. Well... The only team that had them was the Bills and they have a frickin' lights out defense themselves. 3 And we scored 14 on our first go. Yeah, we actually scored but that was the defense defense. Special teams like our offense has zero points against this team. They played them twice. They're good. And once was with David Fogg but whatever. Well that is that is a factor. Well you know what? David Fogg played better than Sam He did he didn't though the only difference is he took

54:01 Jake: 10 sacks instead of throwing four picks. That's true. We still do picks. But anyway, alright let's do it Monday night. Right, so Pittsburgh is hosting Miami. Me vita on Miami. Who's starting for Pittsburgh? Uh, I don't know. That's a good one. I mean the line's 14 and a half. That's purely based on Miami sucking For sure, right and I know that the Steelers have some injury issues quarterback running backs are a little banged up But there is no freaking way that the Steelers lose to Miami at home on Monday night I think it do with I'm just not sure if they beat them by 14 and I just don't know if they could even If there let's see Uh, what are we looking for? A quarterback? Yeah, if it's a guy like Hodges or if it's gonna be... Full practice Mason Rodoff. Alright, so they have their like quote unquote starter. Um, he's a backup but he's their starter. And I just can't see Miami like even the last two Miamis... Who's Miami? They're gonna go back to Rosen at this point? Don't know. They're just so stupid. They're helping out because that coaching staff where you firstly trade away for second round pick, fine. You then start Fitz, then Fitz looks terrible. You put in Rosen, then you say you're going to go with Rosen. You put in Rosen, then you pull Rosen. Then you say you're going to go back the next week to Fitz and then you say, I think they said the reverse. They're like, well, for next week we'll do Rosen. I have no way that Miami is going to Pittsburgh on a Monday night and is even close With that said the line is 14 and a half and I think that half is gonna play a role too much so I think... This is Mason Rudolph, it's not Ben Roethlisberger. It's not Ben Roethlisberger, that's right. So, I still have Pittsburgh beating them and beating them pretty good, but I'll have it at 23-10. I'm gonna pick a score that doesn't make any sense because I feel like it'll just be a bad game. Pittsburgh wins 18 to 15 Alright and then we have our game Game of the century so we're one o'clock Yeah, good the Giants are also at one o'clock this happening a lot this year I don't really like it so fucking stupid stuff like it's I kind of like watching the giant games Now it's a little bit fun with you know what I'm gonna watch the rookie. Yeah watch say come on I wanna see these guys like these are guys that Like, you know. We can have them on a second screen, but whatever. So Jacksonville is favored by six. We're playing Minxu. Right? I just don't know who this team is. Like who is this team? I don't know who this team is either, the Jags. I really don't. I don't know what their identity is. Who are you?

57:00 Jake: I don't really know many of the players anymore on this team and they're my jags and I don't know them that well. You don't even know your jags. I do know this. Yeah. The Jets are pissed. From last year? Yes. The Jets are not pleased. There are... 10 returning starters on defense for the Jets and they remember last year when Jacksonville had the game in hand and in the fourth quarter inside of two minutes up I think they were winning like 2026 to 12 or 13 or whatever inside two minutes they have the ball inside the 10 they can kneel down three times the game is over instead they decide to run the ball they run the ball we don't stop them they get a touchdown they then decide to go for two yeah that's a dick move because the chart said to practice no Because the chart said to said the coach even though they were up 30 points with a minute left so let's go for two practice sure we stop it and The defense is making some noise about it this this week They're like that was disrespectful and stupid they have because they could have gotten hurt They they have to make noise about something because they have to rely around something. Well, they're rallying around that Okay, so good last year. We're only around you guys pissed us off rally around it do it make it work. I don't care We are out of the gauntlet. I will say that In terms of our schedule. It's good. There were one in five coming out of the gauntlet Hey coming out of the gauntlet one in five I mean look it could have been owned six but we came out of the gauntlet one in five and there is some daylight here with the Jaguars, because I don't think the Jags are very good. Yeah, so I was looking at like, you know, they're sort of team rankings, you know, we're not a, they're, you know, right now they're two and- I feel like they're probably middle of the road and everything. They're three and four, and that's exactly right. Nothing really stands out, like, the only thing is that they have- They're a decent running team. Yes, they can run the ball. But we can stop them. run. Yeah, whatever. They- I don't think anyone's really run on us. I think people throw all over us, which is a problem. Well, I mean, our corners are the worst in the league. They have to be. I don't watch enough of the rest of the league to know, I mean, I do, but not close enough to know that like, oh boy, you can just throw on this team. The Jets are the team that you go in like, let's throw the ball over them. We're 24th in pass against the league. So we're not the worst. We're pretty fucking terrible. I bet if you looked at- We're the worst in passing, like in offensive passing. We're 30 seconds. We must be. Like you need to fire somebody for that. But I bet if you looked at a different stat around not like passing yards, but like passer rating against.

1:00:02 Jake: Yeah, which is maybe a better indicator of how good your passing defense is like the passer rating against you. I Bet we're like one of the worst Meaning the people we play look really good when they play quarterbacks look good Right and like their completion percentage is high like stuff like that the only quarterback that really to me look Not good against the Jets was Dak Yeah, but he had a that team and Josh. I didn't look good. No, he didn't we had him three four turnovers in the first game So minch you I actually am more interested on just watching this game because I haven't seen anything about minch I know there's like a thing with this guys see minch you man and you man. I remember seeing him play He's got a stash. I know that so minch you minch you followed David Fock in in college so fauq played for Washington State I think and Minshu played last year for them after fauq same college coach right and Same system all that stuff gun slinger for sure. It's a rookie right? He's a total rookie undrafted undrafted rookie and The league is sort of caught up to him As you can see, he played pretty well in those first couple games that he played in, the Tennessee and Denver game. Yeah, it came out firing against. Then they started losing and playing tougher teams. They beat Cincinnati last week. Cincinnati's worse than us. And now they've got us and I think we're probably an even match. So I don't know about the six point business because I feel like, you know, this, this... We just watched our team put up a goose egg. Against the Patriots. Right. I know. Okay, they just beat Cincinnati. While we all got there last week and we said that because we're liars. Liar! We sat there and said that, you know, there's a chance we can win the Patriots game. There was no chance we could win the Patriots game. No, the math that I did in my head said that it wasn't going to work. But when we can actually sit in this thing and go, is there a chance we could win this game? Yes. And here's Jess fans, here's why you want to watch this game. You're not watching it to win or lose, because it really doesn't fucking matter. You're watching to see a bounce back game. You want to see this team... turn around, not look like a pile of fucking poo, play a team that is in the middle of the pack, and show that you can hang with the middle of the pack team. Cowboys are a better team than this team. We beat the Cowboys. We can beat this team, but you can't. So it's really just like, hey, does this kid come out? Maybe all of his interceptions were in that toe. And does, you know, does he come out and he's just show some poise? Again, he doesn't have the protection he needs. He doesn't have the weapons he needs. But let's try. And the defense, yeah, you beat the Cowboys without Moseley too. So you have to continue out for the rest of the season without him. So let's just keep going. It's a rally team. And I think that's smart for them to do it.

1:03:00 Jake: I just, I wish this head coach wasn't our head coach, because I feel like if he wasn't, we could have, this would be a fun rally team. I could see Rex Ryan doing a whole speech about how we were embarrassed, we were gonna fucking get him. I don't think anybody really likes Gaze. I don't think they want to play for Gaze. And so I just feel like, you know. You know how we said that the team looked like they never quit like the defense looks like it never quit some of the games They were really losing last week. They quit. They definitely look like they quit against the Patriots They're like, well, I'm not even gonna cover that guy. Well, they don't they don't even know how to cover guys so forget covering guys, there's more like tackling guys and You know stopping the run or like not getting embarrassed. I could see this as being just let's see if you can show up as a team Let's see if you can show up and be a professional football team But I think we can and I think Sam, you know, this is all this stuff coming out of him in college And you know was that he is he didn't do it last week But he is the guy who can kind of just put it behind him move on stop seeing ghosts You're gonna have lots of fun in the stands of people dressed up as ghosts Halloween for sure. It's Halloween Timing plus yes, how is next week? Yeah. Yeah, so the ghost things can be super. Yeah I can't wait to go to like the Halloween Jets game Dress as a ghost. Yes, so you can see all of us although in Jacksonville You're like little Weird to like where ghost outfit deep south down there. Okay Anyway, so I could I see them winning I actually do you know, I don't pick against the Jets I think they can hang You know This is definitely has slow ball written all over it first half and then second half star comes over it. We're gonna win 2320 New York Jets I Have a sweating as well Woof really yeah, come on so minchu. Well that that's why I mean she moved him to six points he doesn't score touchdown or is that a blocked field or a missed, mixed extra point? No no no no touchdowns. There will be no touchdown scored by the Jacksonville Jaguars this weekend. It would be beautiful if they could do it. I believe this defense is actually fucking pissed and I think Greg Williams is the type of guy that can take that anger and turn it into something. If he were here last year or last week I would say yes but no. and I have them winning 24 to 6 because I see no reason why we can't put up 24 points against this Jags team. Sam looked fine against the Cowboys and that seems to me like a equal comparison defense and on the road but yeah okay And I shouldn't really fucking matter and it's not like Jacksonville's a part place to play cares And and the jacks suck fuck them like they're gonna run with this big Like the big running back doesn't bother me Leonard for net that doesn't that doesn't scare me as a jet. No, it's the little scat Yeah, those guys scare me the fast guys like like those guys kind of give me a little like

1:06:04 Jake: Can we stop that guy but for net? Go ahead, run straight into the line. We got big fat asses up there, that's all we got. We don't have any fast guys up there. We got big, big motherfuckers who clog up holes. So, try to bounce that shit outside. We got you. Try to run up the middle. Ain't happening. And then it's on Minxue. Like... does he have does he have it now on the whole I doubt it so I'm gonna have us winning 24 six fuck you jags I'm alright well I we all set our predictions so that's it we actually do the podcast this week even come off that terrible that's do a couple podcast we back maybe next week so when was a draw I until then Justin Jake saying, let's go Jats! Thank you.